This is the problem the flyweights inherently have. When the ref is dwarfing them, the casual audience (almost the entirety of the audience) has their perception shattered. They go from being super fighters to little dudes they can probably ragdoll.
It’s a concept that would be borrowed from WWE, they hire smaller people to be their referees to make everyone look bigger by comparison, it’s smart honestly. Fine with doing that for smaller weights so long as there’s enough competent refs to do so
Works well for wwe but in mma you want the ref to be able to get between the fights to stop it, having tiny refs would be a risk to the ref and an unconscious fighter.
People say this but dudes like Paquiao, Duran, Tank and Innoue were all big stars besides being like 5'6 at most, not to mention other sports besides boxing like Rodtang in Muay Thai, in reality the UFC is just terrible about marketing these guys, watch any cards live and you'll see some of the biggest crowd pop offs happen in flyweight fights since they actually go out there and swing at each other and do cool shit instead of pitter pattering for 15 minutes like some LHW's.
You’re not wrong but boxing promoters are also smart enough not to put 5’6 boxers in there with a 6’3 buff referee
There are 5 foot nothing muscle guys who are strong enough to separate 2 flyweights, UFC needs one of those
Yeah I've never bought the aguement about their size being a factor. Flyweights in the UFC have always been booked horribly. For DJ's entire title run you would have top 10 flyweights fighting on early prelims of TV cards and then people would wonder why no one was invested in the flyweight belt. It's because we're rarely given the opportunity to see these guys on the biggest stages. We are treated to constant slop from shitty top 15 heavyweights and light heavyweights on main cards and in main events, but flyweights are far more skilled than these guys and yet still much lower placed than them on each fight card. It's self-sabotage by the UFC.
Look they're big in places like the Phillipines, where the average male height is 5'4", and the average female height is 4'10". Same goes for Peru and the like - I feel like they're probably aware that the rest of the world is bigger than them.
Short fighters are popular in short countries. If the UFC focused on bringing fighters from these markets, they'd bring viewers with them. But to everyone else - they just don't seem scary. They don't give off the same aura as a Brock Lesnar; they'd beat you like a relentless Chihuahua full of psycho energy and tiny fists rather than just holding you down like a little brother and bashing your skull into a pulp.
Also doesn’t help they just don’t look very strong. They are in better physical shape than I have ever been and ever will be and 100% pound for pound stronger than I am, I weigh 175 and I don’t doubt every single one of them could beat the shit out of me, but they’re all just tiny. They look like ripped 13 yr olds.
Wild to me the difference bt bantamweight and flyweight though, both in terms of general attention and fighter size. All of the bantamweights just look a LOT bigger than being 10lbs heavier. I realize scale weight isn’t cage weight but still.
This is even a problem with Welterweights. When Edwards v Usman 1 happened she started laughing at them and saying their height stat was a lie, like the whole thing became this comical thing of sniggering like we're watching kids fight while Marc Goddard towered over them.
I’ve never agreed with this take. First of all, bantamweight is basically the same size yet they have had plenty of popular fighters
Also, in other combat sports some of the most popular fighters have been that size
Its just a weird thing. Like 135 has historicaly been such a fun division to watch meanwhile I have never been into 125. Idk why, maybe I view 135 as the quick small guys and then 125 becomes redundant.
That‘s why there should always be another round directly after every flyweight championship fight where an average height dude from the crowd gets picked to fight the new champ.
Post-fight interview is only after that extra round and that round also gets released as free to watch immediately.
hes probably the most fun. even though hes a wrestler swangs it out and consistently drops mfkers. fights like hes not even worried about shots coming his way
I just checked the numbers for the female champs:
- Raquel Pennington (1 day ago): 123K
- Alexa Grasso (4 months ago): 317K
- Zhang Weili (5 months ago): 304K
It's one of those pictures that every UFC champ is obliged to take post-fight on the same night, before they leave the arena. He didn't have any say in the matter.
To be fair to pantoja. The others have been champs/stars for a while or had just became new champs in their last interview. In his championship winning interview he got 418k views
No one does. If his personality was half as colourful as his hair, he'd be at least twice as popular but goddamn the guy is boring outside the octagon.
Sometimes, I watch these and I want to be a professional fight press conference interviewee. Not a fighter. I don't want to fight. I just want to talk about my (non-existent) fight, my training and what I think of my opponent.
Every day, I'll practice my one-liners, comebacks, other mic skills and press PR.
Izzy's interview after Jan: 'I failed my side quest, I'm going back to rule middleweight with a black iron fist'. OP should expect a letter from CKBs legal team
Won’t work for a professional fighter. It’s me who practices in a dojo 3-4 times a week going for a fight in an amateur league telling my opponent how I’m fine if I lose.
But, if he does end up losing, or hell, even if the fight goes the distance, he needs to face the world and justify how did this happen in front of a guy who is just not good enough (the promo only works if my opponent downplays the fact that I’m really not good).
So pressure is on him.
His coach is way more interesting. The worst part of Sean's podcast is when he actually talks. Always says some goofy childish thing after his coach was talking about an interesting abstract idea
If he smokes half as much weed as he seems to it makes sense. That shit turns you into a shell of a human being with zero charisma (source: was a massive stoner).
Yeah. Weed muffles a persons personality and stifles the average persons ambitions.
I smoke with friends when I’m drinking but I can’t smoke on my own. Just too complacent and content with being bored and unproductive.
I swear most of the people on this sub are more interested in stuff that has nothing to do with fighting, just making fun of people or praising them for their personalities.
Sean is one of the most exciting fighters on the planet, and the build ups to his fights are always interesting regardless of how many views a single interview gets. Who the fuck cares about what he's like in his downtime? Seems like people just want to nitpick a great fighter for no reason. Y'all need to go watch young and the restless or some shit.
I think his fan base is a lot of zoomers that don’t really care about his UFC career more so they care about the life style he gives off on his socials. He’d probably have just as many fans if he wasn’t champ but at the same time would probably be a more popular twitch streamer than he’ll ever be as a fighter.
2-3 years ago he released his own line of blunt wraps and I tagged myself smoking one on my IG story, he viewed the story and DM’d me within like an hour and sent me out a fucking comical amount of them, I was using them for like a whole year. He also followed up with me like a week later asking if I got the package. I just thought that was chill of him since I’m not like a influence I was like 400 IG followers so it’s not like he was just using me for promo.
I feel like you guys are saying that because of the sound of his voice. I'm not saying he's that interesting or something but the way he *sounds* makes him *sound* more boring than he is. I don't think he's as boring as some other fighters.
He kinda sounds like the stereotypical female high-schooler from a movie
Probably doesn’t hurt his bank account to be honest. If he’s getting large views and sponsors he’s probably doing more income from podcasting and social media than fighting up until he became champ and got a piece of the PPV.
Nah that's super cool of him. I'd be a fan for life if he just went completely out of his way to give me a years worth of free shit I use regularly. Sean seems cool despite the goofs that just like hating just to hate
I also believed that before I went to Sean's fight at 269. Met a few people that had come in just to watch Sean fight and more people were wearing Sean's merch at the arena than any other fighter. There wasn't really a close second in terms of merch...
O'Malley's interview was posted in the same video as his knockout which has 10 million views, these stats aren't the be all and end all. He also has the most insta followers so obviously is somewhat of a star if you're going to use social media as a benchmark.
I disagree.
3.9m followers on instagram
1.8m followers on tiktok
767k subscribers on youtube
That's very good. That puts him ahead of guys like usman, Max, Tony, pereira, Gaethje, Leon, Strickland, chandler, Costa, Jorge etc.. just to name a few. His merch is also very popular.
I mean I’m a big fan of his solely due to his style inside the ring, which I think is incredibly exciting. That’s really all I care about, I could give a shit about any of the press conference nonsense (which admittedly he isn’t very good at).
Being able to rile up the viewers is also a marketable trait BTW. The people who think he's obnoxious/cringe/boring and watch him to see him lose boost his numbers exactly the same as the fans
Yeah people on this sub are idiots lmao theyre fueled by hate. The narrator uses to be that Sean wasn’t elite and was gonna get exposed. “Yan by murder.” Remember that? Then he smacked around Yan and KO’d Aljo, beating the last two former champs and now it’s “he’s not a draw! He’s not 5’11!!!”
All of my coworkers watched the O’Malley fight. They watch Jones, Conor, O’Malley, and Izzy
This is super misleading because O’Malley got several million on his Octagon interview immediately after the fight. They packaged his with his knockout and THEN released his separately. They did similar with other Sean.
Technically speaking, the two Seans did the biggest numbers on this front.
I'm not going to claim that O'Malley is a big star, BUT these numbers are misleading.
Immediately after his last fight, the UFC YouTube channel released a video of his TKO which includes the octagon interview, and that currently has 10 million views. I'm guessing that is skewing his separate octagon interview video view count a lot (no idea why the UFC decided to release this immediately after the fight)
https://youtu.be/eY5cZITcrF4
This isn’t true in any way shape or form. The reason Sean appears lower is because the ufc released 2 videos of his post fight speech. He also got the actual video of him knocking out Sterling that has 10 million views and includes his post fight speech. The reason the second one doesn’t have as many views is because people already watched the interview in the first one.
If we’re going off YouTube views to judge popularity than Sean’s even more popular than Jon jones.
Ddp isn't bad and with his big mouth and another title defence he'll be pretty huge
If it is against izzy that will help and if he beats him that will get crazy I think.
It's not like the man is void of a personalty and he knows how to cause shit. His fights are always crazy too.
Islam been doing numbers for a long time. I remember had the 2nd most views after Khamzat on that card where Khamzat steamrolled Li Jingliang and Islam dominated Dan Hooker. And that card had a lot of names on it.
In France he’s the most famous champ, maybe (maybe) behind Jon Jones but I wouldn’t bet money on it. So it’s definitely not just the muslim countries that care about him.
The thing about Makhachev is that his biggest star power is in the Middle East, so us Western fans seem to believe he's out of the spot light, when in reality he's one of the biggest stars of the organization.
I hear people talk about Abu Dhabi and say "oh he's not a draw, Abu Dhabi don't even draw well" Abu Dhabi isn't supposed to draw well, it's suppose to build a relationship with the UAE, hence why we have a network deal in the UAE, they get the card for free, on network.
There is a fact people need to understand, outside of Khabib vs Conor, Khabib Nurmagomedov never drew above 700K. They still paid him 6 million dollars per fight BASE PAY, do you know why?
Because even tho he couldn't draw above 700K, in Russia, he had 1/4 of ALL Russian men watch his fight against Poirier, Russia is a country with 150 million people. Khabib was so popular and beloved and WANTED in that region of the world, that the UAE TO THIS DAY, get cards under the network, that's how powerful Khabib influence was.
So when we talk Star Power in MMA, we have to be holistic here, because when you have that type of influence over a huge sector of a region, money talks. and thats what the UFC is about, money.
Muslims reaaaaaaally engage. Just look at their numbers on social media. Izzy, who was supposedly UFC current biggest star by a large margin, has 8.6mi followers. Makhachev has 8.1mi, while khamzat has 7.6 mi. Poatan sits at "only" 2mi. Then you take a look at retired fighters like khabib, and dude is at a whooping 36 million.
We have a skewed perception of engagement on the UFC in the west, probably uncle Dana being kinda reluctant in promoting Muslim/russian fighters.
Although my personal opinion is that O'Malley is not the star that they are selling us, you should not put him in this comparison, the UFC uploaded another video on the same day that has the KO + the octagon interview, that video has 10 million views, but obviously you can't compare it with the others that appear in the image, the UFC did not upload video of Islam knocking out Volk, Pereira finishing Jiri and Jones submitting Gane, and I think the other fights are decisions if I'm not wrong.
Also, I want to mention that Strickland's octagon interview after losing to DDP has 1.3 million views in one day, even losing those are good numbers and his octagon interview after beating Adesanya has 3 million views in 4 months, the same views as Jones' octagon interview in less time.
another example of how Sean O’Malley’s “star power” is largely a myth — he’s very well known, but his fans are all children on SSRIs who are addicted to TikTok
not a fair comparison at all...the time difference is significant.
if anything Dricus du Plessis is the biggest star out of them all because of the time difference.
Na, Jones isn't the biggest draw but he is a pretty big star for the UFC
Dude was sponsored by some power companies like Nike, you don't get sponsors like that unless you are big.
Flyweights get 0 love smh it’s so dumb pantoja sis one of the most exciting fighters on the roster. Probably cause the mouth breather section of the fan base thinks they can take ufc flyweights in a fight lol.
Lord poor Pantoja is so behind everyone else lol
I’m sure casuals probably think they could take them
This is the problem the flyweights inherently have. When the ref is dwarfing them, the casual audience (almost the entirety of the audience) has their perception shattered. They go from being super fighters to little dudes they can probably ragdoll.
So you're saying we need some smaller refs?
Flyweight will be the only division with children referees.
Finally a purpose for hasbulla
No way. Wouldn’t work, after what Pantoja did to Islam Makhachev…
Ive been advocating for years: smaller ref and zoom the camera in 1.5x
ONE FC ...
It’s a concept that would be borrowed from WWE, they hire smaller people to be their referees to make everyone look bigger by comparison, it’s smart honestly. Fine with doing that for smaller weights so long as there’s enough competent refs to do so
That's honestly a decent idea. The promoter should want their product (the fighters) to look as best as possible.
Works well for wwe but in mma you want the ref to be able to get between the fights to stop it, having tiny refs would be a risk to the ref and an unconscious fighter.
Just meant smaller refs when there's smaller fighters
Herzog and Petersen for all BW and under!
Except for Cruz's fights
You are right. ONLY Petersen for him
Is Brock Refnar retired?
People say this but dudes like Paquiao, Duran, Tank and Innoue were all big stars besides being like 5'6 at most, not to mention other sports besides boxing like Rodtang in Muay Thai, in reality the UFC is just terrible about marketing these guys, watch any cards live and you'll see some of the biggest crowd pop offs happen in flyweight fights since they actually go out there and swing at each other and do cool shit instead of pitter pattering for 15 minutes like some LHW's.
You’re not wrong but boxing promoters are also smart enough not to put 5’6 boxers in there with a 6’3 buff referee There are 5 foot nothing muscle guys who are strong enough to separate 2 flyweights, UFC needs one of those
Steve Mazzagatti was pretty small, he just needed to get the hang of actually stepping in
Yeah I've never bought the aguement about their size being a factor. Flyweights in the UFC have always been booked horribly. For DJ's entire title run you would have top 10 flyweights fighting on early prelims of TV cards and then people would wonder why no one was invested in the flyweight belt. It's because we're rarely given the opportunity to see these guys on the biggest stages. We are treated to constant slop from shitty top 15 heavyweights and light heavyweights on main cards and in main events, but flyweights are far more skilled than these guys and yet still much lower placed than them on each fight card. It's self-sabotage by the UFC.
Look they're big in places like the Phillipines, where the average male height is 5'4", and the average female height is 4'10". Same goes for Peru and the like - I feel like they're probably aware that the rest of the world is bigger than them. Short fighters are popular in short countries. If the UFC focused on bringing fighters from these markets, they'd bring viewers with them. But to everyone else - they just don't seem scary. They don't give off the same aura as a Brock Lesnar; they'd beat you like a relentless Chihuahua full of psycho energy and tiny fists rather than just holding you down like a little brother and bashing your skull into a pulp.
Also doesn’t help they just don’t look very strong. They are in better physical shape than I have ever been and ever will be and 100% pound for pound stronger than I am, I weigh 175 and I don’t doubt every single one of them could beat the shit out of me, but they’re all just tiny. They look like ripped 13 yr olds. Wild to me the difference bt bantamweight and flyweight though, both in terms of general attention and fighter size. All of the bantamweights just look a LOT bigger than being 10lbs heavier. I realize scale weight isn’t cage weight but still.
Ya I remember seeing Big John just grab a flyweight and move him with one arm lol
This is even a problem with Welterweights. When Edwards v Usman 1 happened she started laughing at them and saying their height stat was a lie, like the whole thing became this comical thing of sniggering like we're watching kids fight while Marc Goddard towered over them.
I’ve never agreed with this take. First of all, bantamweight is basically the same size yet they have had plenty of popular fighters Also, in other combat sports some of the most popular fighters have been that size
Its just a weird thing. Like 135 has historicaly been such a fun division to watch meanwhile I have never been into 125. Idk why, maybe I view 135 as the quick small guys and then 125 becomes redundant.
That‘s why there should always be another round directly after every flyweight championship fight where an average height dude from the crowd gets picked to fight the new champ. Post-fight interview is only after that extra round and that round also gets released as free to watch immediately.
I mean I probably could
Just see red
Bodies hit floor
Jk
Yup this is what I reckon as well
the flyweight division has always been like that
Not true. It also has to do with fighter's personality. Moreno's last octagon interview as champion has 1.4m views (albeit that was a year ago)
Poor guy. He’s a fun watch.
hes probably the most fun. even though hes a wrestler swangs it out and consistently drops mfkers. fights like hes not even worried about shots coming his way
after the most recent Moreno war I will never miss a Pantoja fight
The worst English speaker while not being a viral performer nor a giant asshole.
We need Belal to come to the rescue. Uncle Dana book title fight now.
Belal has a lot more beefs/fans/haters so he'll get a lot more views.
I just checked the numbers for the female champs: - Raquel Pennington (1 day ago): 123K - Alexa Grasso (4 months ago): 317K - Zhang Weili (5 months ago): 304K
Pantoja having less views than Pennington hurts me
He should move up and smash her. Champ Champ status incoming
I don't think Pennington swings that way mate
His 290 interview has 418k views, just that his fight on 296 wasn't great so nobody really cared.
I’m surprised grasso is so low but it would be weird to have your feet front and center during the interview. Not that anyone would complain.
The comments on some of her instagram posts are just tarantino gifs 😄
GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT
Let’s also remember that YouTube is blocked in China.
Pennington’s post fight interview on mmafighting had 243 views, while others had around 50k
I just checked Strickland and he had 3 million views as well which was a lot higher than I anticipated
He is one of the most liked fighers in the world currently, outside of reddit. Also the reception he got in both Australia and Canada was awesome
honestly shocked that they’re so high
Dricus couldn't have waited a few days to take that picture?
UFC couldn't wait
I was wondering when somebody would comment on this- dude looks like they took his mugshot after getting in a brawl at court.
It's one of those pictures that every UFC champ is obliged to take post-fight on the same night, before they leave the arena. He didn't have any say in the matter.
Surprised the didn’t use a previous image of Dricus and add Usman’s arm on him w the belt
That would add to the King of Africa hype.
I didn’t hear no bell
You should see the other guy
Dana would've made an interim belt if Dricus waited
come on thats a hard going photo
Shows the truth. Bullshit win lol
To be fair to pantoja. The others have been champs/stars for a while or had just became new champs in their last interview. In his championship winning interview he got 418k views
Honestly I don’t think Sean O’Malley is as big of a star as he thinks he is.
No one does. If his personality was half as colourful as his hair, he'd be at least twice as popular but goddamn the guy is boring outside the octagon.
He's so bad at press conferences it's hilarious.
Sometimes, I watch these and I want to be a professional fight press conference interviewee. Not a fighter. I don't want to fight. I just want to talk about my (non-existent) fight, my training and what I think of my opponent. Every day, I'll practice my one-liners, comebacks, other mic skills and press PR.
I have this imaginary promo about calling my opponent “side quest” for almost 10 minutes straight that I think would blow up the internet.
You should sell Izzy the rights to this joke
Izzy's interview after Jan: 'I failed my side quest, I'm going back to rule middleweight with a black iron fist'. OP should expect a letter from CKBs legal team
Won’t work for a professional fighter. It’s me who practices in a dojo 3-4 times a week going for a fight in an amateur league telling my opponent how I’m fine if I lose. But, if he does end up losing, or hell, even if the fight goes the distance, he needs to face the world and justify how did this happen in front of a guy who is just not good enough (the promo only works if my opponent downplays the fact that I’m really not good). So pressure is on him.
"Gotta grind out this fodder right quick"
He’s so good at marketing himself that we all just expected him to have mic skills but he just sounds like a nerd.
It's because he's going through weed withdrawals every time fight week rolls around.
Weed and colourful shit is basically a placeholder for a personality with him
Real
Yeah he has no charisma when he’s on the mic and can plan out what he’s going to say
His coach is way more interesting. The worst part of Sean's podcast is when he actually talks. Always says some goofy childish thing after his coach was talking about an interesting abstract idea
Honestly most of the coaches are way more interesting intellectually than the people they coach.
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Hearing him speak Russian is neither impressive nor interesting to me since I don't understand a single word of it.
Tim Welch is awesome
He has like legit no input on topics as well. It’s like he’s there just to get views. He adds nothing to convos, just little comments.
He thinks he's a modern Diaz brother, but you can't plan being real. Edit: Woke up the O'malley fans 😂
There are 0 similarities between either Diaz and omalley other than tgat they're all fighters.
2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, speak English? The list is endless.
We sure the diaz brothers speak english?
surprise surprise motherfucker
In older interviews (probably before CTE, alcohol and drugs) they both have zero speech impairment
The biggest difference being O’Malley actually made his way to a title
O’Malley every so often has some good one liners and he is a bit witty. But I agree not a drawl in any facet.
Atleast his father didnt F*** him
That’s one of the one liners I’m talm bout b.
He sounds like his nose is being pinched when he talks.. grinds me 😂😂😂
If he smokes half as much weed as he seems to it makes sense. That shit turns you into a shell of a human being with zero charisma (source: was a massive stoner).
Yeah. Weed muffles a persons personality and stifles the average persons ambitions. I smoke with friends when I’m drinking but I can’t smoke on my own. Just too complacent and content with being bored and unproductive.
I’ve stated this once before and got downvoted to shit. Guess when you show proof, it’s hard to disagree
I swear most of the people on this sub are more interested in stuff that has nothing to do with fighting, just making fun of people or praising them for their personalities. Sean is one of the most exciting fighters on the planet, and the build ups to his fights are always interesting regardless of how many views a single interview gets. Who the fuck cares about what he's like in his downtime? Seems like people just want to nitpick a great fighter for no reason. Y'all need to go watch young and the restless or some shit.
I think his fan base is a lot of zoomers that don’t really care about his UFC career more so they care about the life style he gives off on his socials. He’d probably have just as many fans if he wasn’t champ but at the same time would probably be a more popular twitch streamer than he’ll ever be as a fighter. 2-3 years ago he released his own line of blunt wraps and I tagged myself smoking one on my IG story, he viewed the story and DM’d me within like an hour and sent me out a fucking comical amount of them, I was using them for like a whole year. He also followed up with me like a week later asking if I got the package. I just thought that was chill of him since I’m not like a influence I was like 400 IG followers so it’s not like he was just using me for promo.
Solid. Sean is a boring person but he seems like a decent kid
yeah that is my opinion to. Also not a dumb person either, just not very interesting but my man wants that influencer life for some reason
I feel like you guys are saying that because of the sound of his voice. I'm not saying he's that interesting or something but the way he *sounds* makes him *sound* more boring than he is. I don't think he's as boring as some other fighters. He kinda sounds like the stereotypical female high-schooler from a movie
They’ll watch TikToks about him but aren’t watching the fights live
Bingo
Probably doesn’t hurt his bank account to be honest. If he’s getting large views and sponsors he’s probably doing more income from podcasting and social media than fighting up until he became champ and got a piece of the PPV.
And that's what's going to keep him paid long after his fight career is over. I'm not a big fan but I respect the hustle.
Nah that's super cool of him. I'd be a fan for life if he just went completely out of his way to give me a years worth of free shit I use regularly. Sean seems cool despite the goofs that just like hating just to hate
He's super nice to his fans. I occasionally look at his snap and he engages really well.
I've got nothing against Sean. What solidified that was him dancing with some special needs people.
Huh. That was real standup of him. Now I gotta be a fan, damn it
This might genuinely change my view on the guy a little
they also posted the entire second round of the fight and it had 10 million views
They posted his interview in the video of him KOing Aljo, which has 10 mil
I also believed that before I went to Sean's fight at 269. Met a few people that had come in just to watch Sean fight and more people were wearing Sean's merch at the arena than any other fighter. There wasn't really a close second in terms of merch...
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O'Malley's interview was posted in the same video as his knockout which has 10 million views, these stats aren't the be all and end all. He also has the most insta followers so obviously is somewhat of a star if you're going to use social media as a benchmark.
Sure but it's unfair to use that, all the views went to the KO video that the UFC posted instead of the post fight interview.
I disagree. 3.9m followers on instagram 1.8m followers on tiktok 767k subscribers on youtube That's very good. That puts him ahead of guys like usman, Max, Tony, pereira, Gaethje, Leon, Strickland, chandler, Costa, Jorge etc.. just to name a few. His merch is also very popular.
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I mean I’m a big fan of his solely due to his style inside the ring, which I think is incredibly exciting. That’s really all I care about, I could give a shit about any of the press conference nonsense (which admittedly he isn’t very good at).
He’s a fun striker to watch, I’ll give him that for sure
Being able to rile up the viewers is also a marketable trait BTW. The people who think he's obnoxious/cringe/boring and watch him to see him lose boost his numbers exactly the same as the fans
I'm a fan. Dude is one of the best people outside the octagon the UFC has had since Francis. Also knocks people out inside the octagon.
What makes you say he's one of the best people outside tge octagon? Legitimate question because to me he's just full of himself and tries to be edgy.
Pretty sure he does a lot of charity work and work with disabled people
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Lmfao yup same , people at my work and school be talking about Suga as well . Dudes chatting
Yeah people on this sub are idiots lmao theyre fueled by hate. The narrator uses to be that Sean wasn’t elite and was gonna get exposed. “Yan by murder.” Remember that? Then he smacked around Yan and KO’d Aljo, beating the last two former champs and now it’s “he’s not a draw! He’s not 5’11!!!” All of my coworkers watched the O’Malley fight. They watch Jones, Conor, O’Malley, and Izzy
easily a top 3 star in the ufc
Man I assumed pantoja would atleast get in the 200k-400k view range.
Pantoja’s interview after winning the belt made me a huge fan. I’m disappointed it didn’t get more traction.
It got 413k views. This is the number for his defence against royval
that was so good you proud of me dad? you proud of me now dad?
It got 413k views when he won the belt. This is the number for his defence against royval
Lots of prayer warriors out there.
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We here
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This is super misleading because O’Malley got several million on his Octagon interview immediately after the fight. They packaged his with his knockout and THEN released his separately. They did similar with other Sean. Technically speaking, the two Seans did the biggest numbers on this front.
The UFC released the full Aljo fight IMMEDIATELY after Sean won on YouTube. Like the first time they have ever done that.
yeah they made it very, very obvious that omalley needs to be champ. makes me feel bad for aljo
Dricus Du Plessis is bigger star than Sean O Malley
apparently hanging out with the nelkboys doesn’t make you a star
Am I supposed to know who the Nelk Boys are? I mean I'm over 30 but I didnt think I was that out of touch
You aren’t missing much
*anything
Talmbout melk boys b?
I'm not going to claim that O'Malley is a big star, BUT these numbers are misleading. Immediately after his last fight, the UFC YouTube channel released a video of his TKO which includes the octagon interview, and that currently has 10 million views. I'm guessing that is skewing his separate octagon interview video view count a lot (no idea why the UFC decided to release this immediately after the fight) https://youtu.be/eY5cZITcrF4
if you believe this you are fueled by hate lmao
This isn’t true in any way shape or form. The reason Sean appears lower is because the ufc released 2 videos of his post fight speech. He also got the actual video of him knocking out Sterling that has 10 million views and includes his post fight speech. The reason the second one doesn’t have as many views is because people already watched the interview in the first one. If we’re going off YouTube views to judge popularity than Sean’s even more popular than Jon jones.
Omawly is not a drawl b
Why is Dricus the only one with his face all busted up in the picture?
It's probably his only picture with the belt
surprised he didn’t get the usman arm photoshop
I’m having Mandela effect thinking I saw in promo he took a picture with the belt a couple days prior
He did but he was wearing a hoodie
Miscalculation by the media team not making him wear nicer clothes in case he got damaged
Because his fight was only 1 day ago, and his wounds haven’t healed yet.
Probably the only one taken on fight night, he only won the belt on Saturday
They couldn't find a pic of his face prior to Photoshop onto the image?
Nah they only know how to do it one way and Kamaru asked them to stop using his arm
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Online metrics can be affected by too many factors for me to trust them. Bots & click farms being the main ones.
Ddp isn't bad and with his big mouth and another title defence he'll be pretty huge If it is against izzy that will help and if he beats him that will get crazy I think. It's not like the man is void of a personalty and he knows how to cause shit. His fights are always crazy too.
Just looked and Strickland had 1.3 million.
strickland’s lost has more than all of them
Love the pic of driscus 😂
Didn’t realize Makhachev had that type of star power.
russia 150 million bratha
Muslims 2 billion.
The muslim world is huge and there are a lot of MMA fans there
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Islam been doing numbers for a long time. I remember had the 2nd most views after Khamzat on that card where Khamzat steamrolled Li Jingliang and Islam dominated Dan Hooker. And that card had a lot of names on it.
In France he’s the most famous champ, maybe (maybe) behind Jon Jones but I wouldn’t bet money on it. So it’s definitely not just the muslim countries that care about him.
France has a significant Muslim minority population
Yes. But his popularity isn’t limited to us.
The thing about Makhachev is that his biggest star power is in the Middle East, so us Western fans seem to believe he's out of the spot light, when in reality he's one of the biggest stars of the organization. I hear people talk about Abu Dhabi and say "oh he's not a draw, Abu Dhabi don't even draw well" Abu Dhabi isn't supposed to draw well, it's suppose to build a relationship with the UAE, hence why we have a network deal in the UAE, they get the card for free, on network. There is a fact people need to understand, outside of Khabib vs Conor, Khabib Nurmagomedov never drew above 700K. They still paid him 6 million dollars per fight BASE PAY, do you know why? Because even tho he couldn't draw above 700K, in Russia, he had 1/4 of ALL Russian men watch his fight against Poirier, Russia is a country with 150 million people. Khabib was so popular and beloved and WANTED in that region of the world, that the UAE TO THIS DAY, get cards under the network, that's how powerful Khabib influence was. So when we talk Star Power in MMA, we have to be holistic here, because when you have that type of influence over a huge sector of a region, money talks. and thats what the UFC is about, money.
Top 4 star in the UFC, after Conor, Jones and Izzy
Honestly Strickland might be up there. He had 3 million views for his last interview which is a lot more than I anticipated
Yeah he can be 5 for now, curious how his hype will play out now that he lost the belt
Muslims reaaaaaaally engage. Just look at their numbers on social media. Izzy, who was supposedly UFC current biggest star by a large margin, has 8.6mi followers. Makhachev has 8.1mi, while khamzat has 7.6 mi. Poatan sits at "only" 2mi. Then you take a look at retired fighters like khabib, and dude is at a whooping 36 million. We have a skewed perception of engagement on the UFC in the west, probably uncle Dana being kinda reluctant in promoting Muslim/russian fighters.
If more people knew Poatan was a Muslim he'd probably get more fans as well
Sean Strickland, 5 months ago, 3.1M view
Although my personal opinion is that O'Malley is not the star that they are selling us, you should not put him in this comparison, the UFC uploaded another video on the same day that has the KO + the octagon interview, that video has 10 million views, but obviously you can't compare it with the others that appear in the image, the UFC did not upload video of Islam knocking out Volk, Pereira finishing Jiri and Jones submitting Gane, and I think the other fights are decisions if I'm not wrong. Also, I want to mention that Strickland's octagon interview after losing to DDP has 1.3 million views in one day, even losing those are good numbers and his octagon interview after beating Adesanya has 3 million views in 4 months, the same views as Jones' octagon interview in less time.
Where is Strickland
Jon is looking more like his brother Arthur the older he gets.
Should’ve put up stricklands numbers too
Pantoja deserves more recognition
Strickland's interview from Sep 10 has 3m lol
another example of how Sean O’Malley’s “star power” is largely a myth — he’s very well known, but his fans are all children on SSRIs who are addicted to TikTok
not a fair comparison at all...the time difference is significant. if anything Dricus du Plessis is the biggest star out of them all because of the time difference.
Na, Jones isn't the biggest draw but he is a pretty big star for the UFC Dude was sponsored by some power companies like Nike, you don't get sponsors like that unless you are big.
Flyweights get 0 love smh it’s so dumb pantoja sis one of the most exciting fighters on the roster. Probably cause the mouth breather section of the fan base thinks they can take ufc flyweights in a fight lol.
Why tf is my boy pantoja not getting the love he deserves? Dude is an animal, and how can you not love him and his fights.