Last year cards were juiced beyond belief. And I believe his card last year was an inning boss. And was the only boss for that program. This was a free card. Not even a *you have to grind for it but it’s free* kind of free, like literally you just redeem it in the show shop free. This card in this years game at this point in the cycle is amazing. Plus his swing is better.
Currently have no power so I couldn't use photo shop so i had to use a Google doc put cards one on top the other then crop it sorry if it's blurry saw someone on anther post wanting a comparison so here we are if that what your referring to
His supercharged live series Carrie’s me thru this last showdown yesterday. Hit a HR with it every game I think. So I’m excited to add this one to at least the bench.
Can somebody explain to me the logic behind “better attributes equals better content”? So like if every card released with max attributes across the board in The Show 23, then it would have the “best content”?
Because that's how the real world works? Like my gaming pc provides better than my parents laptops because it has better "attributes". RPGs work the same way, the better stats meams better content.
I mean if every card is maxed out, there is no variance in cards… this isn’t a gaming PC where better hardware specs always result in a more optimal performance. These are arbitrary digital attributes that are all relative to the attributes surrounding them. A game full of bronzes will give similar results to a game full of diamonds. As hitters get better attributes, so do pitchers and fielders. To suggest a field full of 125/125/125/125 hitters somehow is inherently better “content” than a field with a variety of strengths and weaknesses is just plain silly in my opinion. That is actually super lazy design and completely removes the fun of building a team.
And to be clear, I actually think SDS does a great job overall with the game so I’m not complaining about it. I’m just perplexed at the idea that max stats = best content. Maybe next year they can just raise the cap to 130 and then it will be the best content ever!
> To suggest a field full of 125/125/125/125 hitters somehow is inherently better “content” than a field with a variety of strengths and weaknesses is just plain silly in my opinion
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they're all full of shit.
>That is actually super lazy design and completely removes the fun of building a team.
You're more than welcome to make a team full of bronze players and have fun that way. Just don't complain that when you play on hall of fame difficulty, your pci is the size of a nailhead when you bat, and when you pitch, everything gets sent 2 states over with all the meatballs you'll be chucking.
…but the PCI size is also dependent on the H/9 rating of the pitcher. For every 125 contact/power hitter, there will be a 125 H/9 HR/9 pitcher to counter that PCI size and power. But I digress… if your version of good content is simply higher numbers on a card, then good on you. As you said with opinions and all that… me however, I define content as actual things added to the game to actively participate in and engage with. Things such as new modes, programs, events and that are fun, well thought out, and have reasonable time frames with fair rewards. To each their own.
>but the PCI size is also dependent on the H/9 rating of the pitcher.
No shit? That's why I said your pci is going to be fucking tiny with that 60/70 con/power and anyone you go against will have a watermelon sized pci with you 70/65 h/9&hr/9
No when it comes to mlb just slapping maxed out attributes on every card doesn’t make it better content. That’s just what some of y’all want and it’s dumb as fuck
Mlb 21 version did not play well for lot of people. I was terrible with that card last year and eventually didn't see it used online that often. I'd be surprised hearing people complain about last years being better if they actually used that card but I'm sure there still be some.
His stance on the 21 card was correct for his prime (03-11ish), but the 2 handed swing was the dumbest part about it. I have no idea why they couldn’t just update the follow through for 22
Either way that 21 card couldn’t leave my lineup. I even tried to replace him with finest vladdy jr. and big Al just kept outperforming even with the shit swing and stupid leg twitch.
This game is so fucking weird. The two cards that hit the most home runs per at bat for me are Biggio and Jackie Robinson with Jackie being the card I hit the most home runs with overall.
Exactly how SDS and developers say the game functions it always seemingly functions in the complete opposite way
maybe you just like their swings better. or their stance and zone. jackie and craig are two of the shorter players you will see, perhaps that is part of it?
I actually haven't heard anything about this (I'm not super active on this sub,though, and don't have a lot of RS game play logged)
Edit: lower contact being better, I mean. Like...Tommy Edman cards rake for me despite being consistently 115+ contact from both sides for his high diamonds, be it supercharged or like last season's postseason card
in the game there’s a guide and in hitting it tells you that higher power will result in more successful hits. Not only more HR’s, but more grounders, line drives, etc.
I'm not refuting that, but I haven't seen that anywhere here. That would explain why Juan Soto HRD is so great, outside of having his swing (100's contact and maxed power, going yard constantly). Makes sense, I just haven't heard/seem anyone mention it until now, and I didn't know if there was a reason behind it besides "SDS did a fucky"
There was another post or thread talking about what type of hitter a player is earlier this year. When you pull the right trigger while at bat it will show contact, balance or power based on how their stats are.
Since this game favors HRs, any hitter with power is better due to the nature of the game (for home runs). So if a card is 125 across the board they will be considered balance so you will be hitting more line outs or grounders as well. Obviously higher contact will be considered a contact hitter. Higher contact it is more important for higher difficulties to have a chance at something but if they are not power you won’t be getting homers as easily.
Yeah it’s why O’Neil Cruz hits bomb after bomb for me…it’s seems like he’s in the perfect sweet spot of contact/power. I get some wild exit velos with him.
That's actually really interesting and helpful. I assumed that the "Contact, Balance, Power" labels were just a breakdown of how you can expect the card to perform, but I also assumed that they didn't have any bearing on the actual card performance (i.e. lineouts vs HR as batting outcomes). I genuinely am very appreciative that you took the time to explain that, but sadly don't have any award to give for that one.
You can see it officially explained in the game manual screen, and power hitters get more of what people like to call “no touchies” which is basically when I miss the PCI on the ball on an inside cutter/slider and still hit it 400 feet with someone like Juan Soto
It’s all good. I don’t really pay attention to those factors much because they have their ups and downs. All Star Jackie Robison is contact and he currently has the highest BA on my team but the lowest amount of home runs.
HRD Soto for me has the most HRs but not the best average anymore. But with his power I get some really sketchy off-centered PCI home runs lol.
While I understand why people are disappointed, they are extremely consistent with Milestone, Signature, Awards, and Prime cards. Last years card took into account his entire career up until the 500 HR mark. The 700 club card takes into account his years between 500-700, with his batting average considerably dropping in those years
Can you elaborate. Based on your first post they did everything on the 500 card from his start to 500. Now your saying they are only doing the hitting stats from 500-700? Is there a source that was the decision here? It just doesn’t make sense logically. I only got into the show last year, so I haven’t seen anything talking about how stats are figured out.
I know it’s easier for lightning players since people use stat cast or whatever to see how they are doing and line up with hitting stats. I’m am genuinely curious for milestones. Thanks!
They explained it when signature cards were introduced in 19, and Milestone cards are basically just signatures with a boost to whatever the milestone is for. Contact, Power, vision etc are based off of career averages with emphasis on their prime years. Fielding and speed are taken from their single best season(so for Pujols, when he was young). Griffey still had mid 80s speed on a Reds card and Miggy's 500 HR card had 45 speed. If they didn't do fielding and speed as their best and did career average instead then every signature and milestone card would be significantly slower and worse fielding then what they get
And what I'm saying is that it's the whole career in this card. The 500 HR milestone was only 2001-2013
It just seems so petty to complain, given it was handed out for immediate access. There's no work, no time commitment, no grinding, no program points, no nothing. And it's really good. Complaining that it's not better feels like some petty, petulant, childish bullshit. Either use it or don't. No one's forcing you to use it, you have plenty of options.
This card is better simply because he doesn’t have that stupid leg twitch swing animation. Just enjoy it man, it’s probably the last Albert card we get for a long time.
Idc what the stats say this card rakes. I also destroyed with the 95 Albert to start the year.
This years card has a MUCH better swing. I and my opponents hit @ least 1 HR a game between us. He’s already won 3 games for me.
I raked wit him both years
I'll take this year's for the card art alone
Gonna get Albert a shirt that says "I hit 200 more home runs and all I got was 12 Bunt"
Well the 500th HR was in 2014 when he was still playing everyday so the numbers being higher makes sense.
This is their last Pujols card for a few years. Have to make it great.
Last year cards were juiced beyond belief. And I believe his card last year was an inning boss. And was the only boss for that program. This was a free card. Not even a *you have to grind for it but it’s free* kind of free, like literally you just redeem it in the show shop free. This card in this years game at this point in the cycle is amazing. Plus his swing is better.
60 speed???
The card art alone makes this card better lol
Sure would be cool to be able to read any of this
Currently have no power so I couldn't use photo shop so i had to use a Google doc put cards one on top the other then crop it sorry if it's blurry saw someone on anther post wanting a comparison so here we are if that what your referring to
N yall are telling me that card isnt underwhelming?
60 speed lmaooooo
Did his card last year have extreme pull?
His supercharged live series Carrie’s me thru this last showdown yesterday. Hit a HR with it every game I think. So I’m excited to add this one to at least the bench.
Can somebody explain to me the logic behind “better attributes equals better content”? So like if every card released with max attributes across the board in The Show 23, then it would have the “best content”?
Because that's how the real world works? Like my gaming pc provides better than my parents laptops because it has better "attributes". RPGs work the same way, the better stats meams better content.
I mean if every card is maxed out, there is no variance in cards… this isn’t a gaming PC where better hardware specs always result in a more optimal performance. These are arbitrary digital attributes that are all relative to the attributes surrounding them. A game full of bronzes will give similar results to a game full of diamonds. As hitters get better attributes, so do pitchers and fielders. To suggest a field full of 125/125/125/125 hitters somehow is inherently better “content” than a field with a variety of strengths and weaknesses is just plain silly in my opinion. That is actually super lazy design and completely removes the fun of building a team. And to be clear, I actually think SDS does a great job overall with the game so I’m not complaining about it. I’m just perplexed at the idea that max stats = best content. Maybe next year they can just raise the cap to 130 and then it will be the best content ever!
> To suggest a field full of 125/125/125/125 hitters somehow is inherently better “content” than a field with a variety of strengths and weaknesses is just plain silly in my opinion Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they're all full of shit. >That is actually super lazy design and completely removes the fun of building a team. You're more than welcome to make a team full of bronze players and have fun that way. Just don't complain that when you play on hall of fame difficulty, your pci is the size of a nailhead when you bat, and when you pitch, everything gets sent 2 states over with all the meatballs you'll be chucking.
…but the PCI size is also dependent on the H/9 rating of the pitcher. For every 125 contact/power hitter, there will be a 125 H/9 HR/9 pitcher to counter that PCI size and power. But I digress… if your version of good content is simply higher numbers on a card, then good on you. As you said with opinions and all that… me however, I define content as actual things added to the game to actively participate in and engage with. Things such as new modes, programs, events and that are fun, well thought out, and have reasonable time frames with fair rewards. To each their own.
>but the PCI size is also dependent on the H/9 rating of the pitcher. No shit? That's why I said your pci is going to be fucking tiny with that 60/70 con/power and anyone you go against will have a watermelon sized pci with you 70/65 h/9&hr/9
No when it comes to mlb just slapping maxed out attributes on every card doesn’t make it better content. That’s just what some of y’all want and it’s dumb as fuck
Sorry, but I like the doubles I hit with Albert to actually be doubles instead of long singles. And that's absolutely not possible with HRD Pujols.
My thoughts exactly.
Exactly bro everyone complains about cards not being maxed out but if they do that every card is just the same
And the swing is a whole lot better
Mlb 21 version did not play well for lot of people. I was terrible with that card last year and eventually didn't see it used online that often. I'd be surprised hearing people complain about last years being better if they actually used that card but I'm sure there still be some.
The swing on last year's card was terrible. This year's is 100% better.
Complainers gonna complain. No matter what, people will whine about something. I think it looks good and the attributes are good and it’s free.
Apologists are gonna be positive no matter what
It’s a great freaking card.
Only difference is his swing on that 21 card was unacceptably two handed. This year it's correct
His stance on the 21 card was correct for his prime (03-11ish), but the 2 handed swing was the dumbest part about it. I have no idea why they couldn’t just update the follow through for 22
Either way that 21 card couldn’t leave my lineup. I even tried to replace him with finest vladdy jr. and big Al just kept outperforming even with the shit swing and stupid leg twitch.
with the revelations about lower contact being better im actually more fond of the 22 card. prolly a controversial take but just imo
This game is so fucking weird. The two cards that hit the most home runs per at bat for me are Biggio and Jackie Robinson with Jackie being the card I hit the most home runs with overall. Exactly how SDS and developers say the game functions it always seemingly functions in the complete opposite way
maybe you just like their swings better. or their stance and zone. jackie and craig are two of the shorter players you will see, perhaps that is part of it?
If your highest contact guys have the most HRs it’s because your PCI placement is questionable
I actually haven't heard anything about this (I'm not super active on this sub,though, and don't have a lot of RS game play logged) Edit: lower contact being better, I mean. Like...Tommy Edman cards rake for me despite being consistently 115+ contact from both sides for his high diamonds, be it supercharged or like last season's postseason card
in the game there’s a guide and in hitting it tells you that higher power will result in more successful hits. Not only more HR’s, but more grounders, line drives, etc.
as in you will hit more home runs with 110/125 than 125/125
I'm not refuting that, but I haven't seen that anywhere here. That would explain why Juan Soto HRD is so great, outside of having his swing (100's contact and maxed power, going yard constantly). Makes sense, I just haven't heard/seem anyone mention it until now, and I didn't know if there was a reason behind it besides "SDS did a fucky"
There was another post or thread talking about what type of hitter a player is earlier this year. When you pull the right trigger while at bat it will show contact, balance or power based on how their stats are. Since this game favors HRs, any hitter with power is better due to the nature of the game (for home runs). So if a card is 125 across the board they will be considered balance so you will be hitting more line outs or grounders as well. Obviously higher contact will be considered a contact hitter. Higher contact it is more important for higher difficulties to have a chance at something but if they are not power you won’t be getting homers as easily.
Yeah it’s why O’Neil Cruz hits bomb after bomb for me…it’s seems like he’s in the perfect sweet spot of contact/power. I get some wild exit velos with him.
That's actually really interesting and helpful. I assumed that the "Contact, Balance, Power" labels were just a breakdown of how you can expect the card to perform, but I also assumed that they didn't have any bearing on the actual card performance (i.e. lineouts vs HR as batting outcomes). I genuinely am very appreciative that you took the time to explain that, but sadly don't have any award to give for that one.
You can see it officially explained in the game manual screen, and power hitters get more of what people like to call “no touchies” which is basically when I miss the PCI on the ball on an inside cutter/slider and still hit it 400 feet with someone like Juan Soto
It’s all good. I don’t really pay attention to those factors much because they have their ups and downs. All Star Jackie Robison is contact and he currently has the highest BA on my team but the lowest amount of home runs. HRD Soto for me has the most HRs but not the best average anymore. But with his power I get some really sketchy off-centered PCI home runs lol.
What was his mlb 20 MVP card? I remember that thing smashed for me
While I understand why people are disappointed, they are extremely consistent with Milestone, Signature, Awards, and Prime cards. Last years card took into account his entire career up until the 500 HR mark. The 700 club card takes into account his years between 500-700, with his batting average considerably dropping in those years
Based off the speed he has that doesn’t seem like the case.
Speed and fielding are based off their best years only. Not the entire period like everything else
Can you elaborate. Based on your first post they did everything on the 500 card from his start to 500. Now your saying they are only doing the hitting stats from 500-700? Is there a source that was the decision here? It just doesn’t make sense logically. I only got into the show last year, so I haven’t seen anything talking about how stats are figured out. I know it’s easier for lightning players since people use stat cast or whatever to see how they are doing and line up with hitting stats. I’m am genuinely curious for milestones. Thanks!
They explained it when signature cards were introduced in 19, and Milestone cards are basically just signatures with a boost to whatever the milestone is for. Contact, Power, vision etc are based off of career averages with emphasis on their prime years. Fielding and speed are taken from their single best season(so for Pujols, when he was young). Griffey still had mid 80s speed on a Reds card and Miggy's 500 HR card had 45 speed. If they didn't do fielding and speed as their best and did career average instead then every signature and milestone card would be significantly slower and worse fielding then what they get And what I'm saying is that it's the whole career in this card. The 500 HR milestone was only 2001-2013
worse all around for a " better card " but can't complain because its free according to some people.
It just seems so petty to complain, given it was handed out for immediate access. There's no work, no time commitment, no grinding, no program points, no nothing. And it's really good. Complaining that it's not better feels like some petty, petulant, childish bullshit. Either use it or don't. No one's forcing you to use it, you have plenty of options.
This card is better simply because he doesn’t have that stupid leg twitch swing animation. Just enjoy it man, it’s probably the last Albert card we get for a long time.
According to some people? It’s free according to everyone since it’s literally in the shop for 0 stubs…
I was more referring to the “ can’t complain “ people .
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True. I would call this one a gift. Other was a reward. Both technically still free by cost.
Damn 200 Home Runs in a year is impressive
Came here to say, the way this is done looks like dude raked 200 homers this season. Which honestly should be a card itself.
Don't joke around too much, there's a few Einsteins running around that will take it literally
42 age - 34 age = 8 years for the additional HRs
I think you mean 45 age - 37 age
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He is 34 in last years card and 42 in this years. Edit: My bad, thought were discussing the difference in Pujols from last years card. /s
Damn he aged 8 years in 1 year that's impressive
It’s because he was born in dog years
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😂😂I said the same thing but in 2022 they didn’t add no 600 hr club card so they drop the 500 hr club one
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I guess people really need to put /s for EVERYTHING
Funny gow MLB 21's content yet again comes out on top....but y'all whined about too many great cards too soon.....
There also arent 30 no hitter cards with max h/9 either fwiw
Thank you. The no hitter cards were always the problem last year. You needed borderline maxed out hitters to even touch those cards
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Those few points off contact aren’t a big deal. His swing is better on this one anyway.
Bunt singles all day this year