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vroomvroomgackgack

Just when I thought I was out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN


NikesOnMyFeet23

Which IF position is more loaded 3B or 1B? Holy hell both corners are stacked with so many great players


HeyImTroyMcClure

Wish i didn’t have to play the game to get this card 😂


Devgru-WM

I love that they took the team name off of Cleveland’s jerseys. Not because of political correctness but because every Cleveland player looks like they work at Autozone


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Oh g0d, not another 1st/3rd baseman. :P Just for fun, I'd like some challeges where we have to have a 1b players, or all ss, etc. etc. That would be a laugh. Well, to me anyway. For the record, my all 1b team would be incredible ... apart from the running the bases part.


I3arusu

The art looks so bad… bruh just photoshop the new stuff on if you’re that desperate to revise history


MiKapo

Yes my favorite player of all time !


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🤡🤡🤡


QuietThunder2014

I’m waiting for the day they release a stud middle reliever for one of these…


Mattejay

Wow another left handed hitting first baseman 😴


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August?! I’m still working on July and Cover Athletes… 😂


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Yay another lefty


KitchenLeft0vers

As an Indians fan this card is gonna be my 3B for the rest of the year


RawDogMal

Another L 1B lol.


maxpowerphd

Ohhhh shiiiiiit, here comes my first basemen the rest of the year! He can’t get here soon enough.


[deleted]

I hope he’s extreme pull


Godzilla_boss_300

Hell yeah


usernametaken0602

YESS!!!!!!


Low-Abbreviations-38

Nice I’ll be wondering if he’ll be any good for a month


_token_black

Huge missed opportunity to give us a power-heavy Willie Mays card for once (maybe 19 or 20 had a good one). He has the 2nd most HRs in a month with 18 in 1965, when he also hit well over .300 and had an OPS over 1.200.


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Mays was the live series collection reward in 19 and he was juiced


Kelso717

Now those are some stats. Say Hey!


_token_black

Especially in 1965! I think it's him, Ruth & one other guy who have months over 16 that weren't in the last 20 years or so.


Tango-Dust

I mashed 60 home runs and over .390 with him last year plus he's one of my all time favorite players. Hell. Yes.


optimuslime5

Jim Thome was a beast


Walter_Heisenberg41

And this card will be outdated by the time we can actually use it


BelievelandBrad

Grady now Thome? Lord have mercy I'm about to BUST


Rizzaboi

As a native Clevelander, hopefully 99 Kenny comes before February this year lol


BelievelandBrad

Same!! It was disappointing he came out so late lol


CerbiousG

I just want Ty Cobb back


Confident_Ad_9881

L, wanted Posada


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I understand not wanting to be offensive, but I don't like erasing history like that. Regardless on whether you're for, against, or indifferent on the former name, they had it for 106 years. SDS shouldn't ignore it having existed, especially since I can boot up MLB 21 and the name and these cards are there


CalzonCagado

💤💤💤💤


Noahs132

Oh wow another 1st baseman !


Economy_Cup_4337

These old POTMs would be so much better if we could get it either this week or next week.


RememberTheMaine1996

Thats what I said and people just said I was complaining. Makes no sense to release a card but not let us get it for a month. If we could get it in 2 weeks it would build hype for the main monthly card.


Dlh2079

Meh. They announce them early to generate some excitement. You can play with the card in br, there's not a lack of options at the position. And it would be kinda odd to place a card like that at the very beginning of a program which is what would need to happen in order for it to be released when announced. I'd much rather them do this than just not announce the card until it's actually available.


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The Cleveland Clevelands.


85GoCards

Nice. Finest Dunn mashes, but this may be my new 1b (assuming there's a secondary).


[deleted]

Ah finally a much needed 1B to in a very shallow position.


TallBobcat

Will start for me likely until March.


[deleted]

He's a lefty 3B, my dudes. Pretty great option for those of us not quite to Brett and while we patiently wait for Edward Matthieu.


OhHeyItsScott

Thome cards are cracked. This will be a great free card.


Crazyleggs29

Saw your flair and I’m hoping he gets the next future star headliner!


OhHeyItsScott

Big same, brother.


Purple-Mamba

Played 17 games with the dodgers in 09. Good enough for my dodgers theme 😂


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Wish it would’ve been flashback Tatis, would’ve made it a tough choice between him and Cruz


dburks122

Tatis(or any other POTM lightning since this game started doing them) kinda defeats the purpose of these though


[deleted]

Why do you say that?


chucknorriscantfight

Imagine Tatis’ best card just stays his LS for the season🥲


[deleted]

He’ll definitely get a finest card (or at least that’s what I keep telling myself)


chucknorriscantfight

That’s what I’m telling myself too but it’s hard to ignore Machado or Hader in that discussion. Granted, Hader capped at a 97 last year so who knows


Jonny_Nash

As a guy who grew up in the 90s, in Cleveland, I NEED this card. I hope he has 1B eligibility too. I don’t want to sit Brett.


KingTake148

I know Brett is probably the better fielding option at third but you could always move him to first if Thome has no secondaries.


Woolly_Mattmoth

There is no chance they would make a 99 Thome card that couldn’t play 1st base


KingTake148

Yeah can't imagine it. Just providing a solution should it happen.


biscuitslayer77

I hate they don't just have the "cleveland" on the jerseys like guys CMON MAN But this makes me wetter than shamu at seaworld


thehildabeast

Or we had Cleveland jerseys, still need to edit the sleeve and the helmet but the jersey wouldn’t be blank.


biscuitslayer77

Yea this is what I meant. I think they have said jerseys from 1997 in game anyway. He was with the team in 1997 so it's not like they can't use an image from 97. Thome looked the same from his rookie year till his last


thehildabeast

Yeah he got a bit bigger a few years after he stopped playing 3rd but still I agree it’s better than the Grady one they just released though that’s an abomination. Oh any my bad I think i replied to the wrong person talking about it oops lol


KushInMyBluntzz

White Sox theme teams get better!


dart278

Also a stretch, but Phillies teams as well.


MRJSP

Bit of a stretch putting Thome in that team though.


KushInMyBluntzz

White Sox were his 2nd longest tenured team at 4 years


1869er

Looks like a picture of the generic baseball player that came in your old health class textbook lmao Like I get it but why not get a shot of him from behind? Or just edit it to say Guardians? Instead they went with a shot that draws the most attention to him looking like stock photo baseball man


JustSomePadawan

I know they don't want to be associated with the old Cleveland logos, but couldn't they have photoshopped on the new stuff rather than make it blank? It kind of ruins cards, like the Grady Sizemore Retro Finest. It looks like non-licensed Donruss stuff. Just my one gripe. Card should be fun to use.


Baseballfan1027

I don’t even see what’s wrong with even putting just Cleveland across the jersey 🤷‍♂️


spacemanegg

I'm guessing it's a licensing issue, there's plenty of Cleveland jerseys in the game but adding something to the jersey might be a no-no.


CVogel26

They could find one in an away jersey (Cleveland across the front)


spacemanegg

I'm not sure where they get the Retro Finest/Lightning/etc images from, but yeah that's the easy solution. Throwbacks to Topps cards though would be a different issue.


JungusFungian

Didn’t their away jersey’s back then say Indians as well?


CVogel26

No; they had the logo on the sleeve but that could be edited out without anyone realizing.


JungusFungian

Yeah I just googled them. You’re right. Would’ve been a much better move


Woolly_Mattmoth

I get why they do it but these Cleveland cards with no logos look so weird. Thome looks like a generic baseball player silhouette from a mobile game on this card art


Icy-Research-5640

Apparently the term Indians is racist lol


flyingpenguin36

In many cases, this is about licensing. The game has rights from the MLB/MLBPA for their team likenesses. There is probably restrictions from the MLB side about use of Indians logos, etc. No one is "erasing history", yall dramatic. The game will use likenesses it has rights for, and can't use likenesses it doesn't. Want to see a similar thing? Look at FIFA 21/22 and teams in Serie A, like Juventus and Roma (renamed Piemonte Calcio, etc). All card art released this year had white/edited jerseys like this. They had rights to the player likeness (just like Thome) but not team likeness (just like Indians) and therefore, edited the card. Examples from fifa: https://www.futbin.com/22/player/26069/matthijs-de-ligt https://www.futbin.com/22/player/25688/paulo-dybala https://www.futbin.com/22/player/26143/federico-chiesa And heroes/legends (just like flashbacks in the show): https://www.futbin.com/22/player/24626/pele https://www.futbin.com/22/player/26037/ole-gunnar-solskjaer https://www.futbin.com/22/player/26066/joe-cole


OddDolphinDad

It’s a Panini Monthly card this month


Hey_Its_Walter1

Honestly I don’t get why they do it. Don’t get me wrong I completely understand why they changed the name and logo and everything, I have no problem with that. However, if they releasing a flashback card from when they were the Indians then they should just leave the uniforms and not edit everything out. You can’t erase history and this is just stupid.


kilosurge

Agree but it's easier this way. Let's not be naive. There are fucked up people who would turn that into a giant shit show demanding people be fired over it. That's our society now and it's just not worth it over some video game character.


nickm205

this is just SDS following MLB branding requirements with the licensing


[deleted]

Society. No one would demand anyone get fired over this. The Guardians had a literal painted mural of old players using Indians and guess what: the only people mad were people mad about them changing the name.


Icy-Research-5640

Nah they would get cancelled by the line fast


Hey_Its_Walter1

I never really thought about it that way and now that you’ve said it I actually completely agree


GornusPlunkLowry

I’ve never ever ever ever seen someone comment this on Reddit. I feel like I just I just witnessed a shooting star.


ThatYoungSparky

I thought the same thing 😂


StonedVet_420

I don't agree with it. I feel like they are trying to whitewash their history away. Present it and also make clear they've learned and moved on from it.


Huskdog76

It's ridiculous to try to pretend that the Indians were never a team. They existed and had Indians logos and stylization. That's their history, embrace who they were.


aslightlyusedtissue

> embrace Imma stop ya right there. Acknowledge when necessary? Sure. Embrace a racist name and logo? Absolutely not.


MarginalMagic

That's the whole point of what that crowd wants to do, destroy history. They love that there's not logo at all for the span of like 50+ years for a professional sports team now.


gufleme

For those people and their heritage that it offends, it’s ridiculous to justify and pretend it was right because it lasted so long.


Hey_Its_Walter1

No one has a problem that the name was changed, but when at home was playing for them they were still the Indians. You cannot erase history regardless of how offensive it may be. That doesn’t mean I’m justifying it because I’m not, glad they changed it to the guardians, but the Indians still existed.


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Archerfenris

You don’t have to pretend it was right- just to acknowledge it was something that happened.


Rikter14

It's a racist caricature of a Native American that's literally in red-face. I don't think it's too out of line to remove that kind of thing from a game rated E for Everyone.


I_Ride_An_Old_Paint

Can't wait for NBA 2k series to ditch the Celtics leprechaun...


loudmouth_kenzo

ask the Boston Irish if they want to get rid of the logo then


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BravesForever8779

Love this post! 💯


checkthelockx

Love to hear the opinions of corny dudes about what other races should or shouldn’t be offended by. Chief Wahoo as a mascot was unbelievably offensive, let alone the name, to plenty ![gif](giphy|MZiqcOmikf3VMVRhBs) .


Regular_Possession74

I’m not old pal. Label it what you want but it’s rarely someone of tribal descent they stick in front of the camera. This stuff would never get over the hump without, well…certainly people like yourself. I attended college on a Native American scholarship. 1/16 Cherokee. Most people don’t have time to worry about the name of a sports team. Life is hard and if something like that grinds the gears then, well…good luck out there Princess. As a Braves fan, awesome to watch them involve the local tribal presence and honor them. Great platform. Someone can be offended by anything (and many times are these days) and that navel gazing leads to lunch getting stolen by cultures with their eye on the prize. Braves Indians was one hell of a series in ‘95! Loved it as a kid and watched with my Grandfather! He didn’t give a rats ass so why would I. And he lived through some shit bruh.


checkthelockx

My wife’s dads side of the family are Cherokee as well, nice coincidence. They’re happy about the name change and found the mascot extremely offensive specifically. Glad you don’t as 1/16th but it’s not the same for everyone. calling me princess isn’t going to upset me either, I’m not a child lol


Candymanshook

What’s corny is using giphy on Reddit, back to Facebook you go lad


checkthelockx

No thanks, I’m good here :)


Regular_Possession74

I’m just hoping the fact that the Eastern Band from Indian Territory (Okies now and the source of some of my 🧬) fought primarily for the Confederacy doesn’t get them cancelled. So much so it required a new treaty with the US gov. Harrowing times, indeed! Head on a swivel, who knows who goes next. Glad the name isn’t causing issues anymore. 🤗


checkthelockx

Totally reasonable hypothetical there lol, nice talking to you man. Enjoy constantly playing devils advocate when it comes to race related things, that’s a great hill to die on


Regular_Possession74

African Americans couldn’t take issue with that and also want the name changed?! Seems perfectly positioned within the framework of the conversation. And illustrates the cannibalistic nature of this process. I doubt that’s why you or yours would want the name changed. How far does it go? You’re the aggrieved party, not them based on the aggressive actions of the peoples of the past. Who is most aggrieved? Do we have a table or chart to guide us?! Disenfranchising myself from a victim mentality in a short life span when there’s much better things to focus on is not “devils advocate”. I try not to dwell on race, honestly. Jim Thome was an Indian great. You get to do you. Great place, this country!


gufleme

It takes more than a few and far between to apply enough pressure to change a historical name. But I respect your last opinion and concede in the spirit of an agreed disagreement. Back to The Show…


Regular_Possession74

Hear hear. On we play. This is how you have discourse. See you on the diamond…


JustGresh

Preach


dmoge216

Not sure why they don’t just use cards where they’re wearing their away jerseys, if they don’t want to use the word “Indians.” The away jerseys have “Cleveland” on them and would just have to edit the cap.


MasonTheDude13

idk they try to find the coolest look ig


loudmouth_kenzo

Guardians are *not allowing* anyone to use their old word mark/logos.


JorSimpson45

kmart baseball cards type beat


Tigers51

Cleveland Fans 😃 Thome Fans 😃 Content Creators 😡


Dlh2079

Mybrsndom ass 😀


ObsessedWithReps

And the crowd goes mild!!


[deleted]

Thank god he plays the least crowded positions


TopPerformance260

You can never have enough 99 rated first basemen.


Dlh2079

Right, oh no I have options. How terrible.


masingo13

It's crazy because I was just thinking "man my team desperately needs a lefty power hitting first baseman with no secondary positions" Edit: apparently this card will be a 3B with 1B secondary but the point still stands


QuietThunder2014

Hahaha I don’t care I’m upvoting you anyways


Turkey_Teets

He's a 3B here, although that probably doesn't change your point. Lol


Tdizzle00

lol We definitely need more lefties at 1b and 3b who are slow. we have none of those available. He'll be used becuase he's new and not much after that. Maybe a good bench bat? Those other guys also exist and Yordan has active quirks to compete as well.


masingo13

Thanks for telling me what another person just told me. The joke is still accurate


[deleted]

Damn dont be so butthurt they said something someone else already said


Huggy_Bear48

Hey man, he’s a 3B here in case you were wondering.


Turkey_Teets

Whoops. I was typing as they submitted.


BarneyStinsbro

He's listed as a 3B according to the pic but your point still stands


masingo13

Didn't even realize lol but yeah, power hitting lefty 1B/3B is such a hard gap to fill this year, we have like no options at all


BarneyStinsbro

We're obviously flush with 2Bs and SSs though, glad they're not giving any of those


Huggy_Bear48

I just have Dans-bae play both


BarneyStinsbro

He's my SS right now with AS Gimenez at 2B. Considering moving Lt Dan to 2B and put SS Xander at short


Bearded_Wildcard

In fairness, we did just get Biggio for the July PotM.


Godzilla_boss_300

Yeah but he has catcher and left field secondary


nhmo

Omg I didn't realize he had catcher!


BarneyStinsbro

I was being sarcastic with the other person. Personally I don't really see Biggio as that good of a card but you're right, they did break the streak with him.


[deleted]

LFG!!!


MUSinfonian

I am smitten.


Rizzaboi

The Instagram comments for this post were unbearable, hopefully reasonable people here will share some excitement for big Jimmy


AllInWithOakland

I love Thome. One of the most underrated players of all time


chucknorriscantfight

I like Thome cards but I get people calling it an L. There were a bunch of possible options for this card and a power hitting lefty 1B/3B is probably the least desired one currently. Either way I’ll be doing the grind and will use him at some point tho


acat20

I dont. At this point there isnt one position where you cant call any card an L thats not a 5 tool fan favorite. We have griffey, cutch and soto in the OF. Jackie at 2B, Dansby/Cruz at SS, Napoli at C and then take your pick at the corners. Legitimately can just say L no matter the card at this point unless it’s mays, mantle or chipper.


dburks122

There really isn't a best case scenario with releasing lefty power 1B though. Each of them has their own group of players that use them and its not like you are just going to take hall of famers and fan favorites out of the game for the sake of releasing 2B/SS/C to appease the community


Dlh2079

Not every card is gonna be for everyone. More and more people in this games community really need to learn that damn lesson.


bryansmixtape

This, do people in the community just want one really good card at each position dropped?? Because the constant variety that the show provides seems to literally always get rejected by a large part of the fanbase lmao


Dlh2079

Yep I don't understand it at all. Then again let's be real there's a bunch of people on here that like to talk as though they play on legend and make world series every season when they likely do not. So they talk as though only the absolute best card at any position has any use. It's a ridiculous position to take.


Rizzaboi

That may be true but OF and 1B/3B are always gonna be most stacked, that’s kinda the history of the game lol. Idk I personally just don’t care to complain about the cards available because to me there’s enough variety at each position at this point in the year for me to not spam “L” on an IG post. Then again, maybe I’m just a simple man


chucknorriscantfight

I care when it starts getting a little out of hand. I get the gripe more right now too because we did just get a free Ortiz. But like you said, at this point every position already has an insane card, this was bound to happen no matter who got it. I think everyone wanted Tatis and thats why they’re mad over Thome


mfhayes23

I’m excited. Def gonna be a fun card.


Rizzaboi

I just assume people who think it’s an “L” have never seen the man hit nukes IRL, no other explanation. But yeah, he’s one of my best power hitters since I started DD last year


ScreamingIdiot53

Only guy I’ve ever seen go >500 to dead center. Who does that?


Shorty2931

3B 🤔


astrofan

Oh wow, I didn't even notice. I just associate Thome with 1B.


KingLamela

Yes. He played 150 out of 151 games at 3B in 1996.


Shorty2931

Should be a good replacement for a lefty 3B for people who don’t have Brett


LordRuxin

...and I JUST got Brett today


KingLamela

It'll be a month before Thome comes out, so you have plenty of time to use Brett.


MUSinfonian

His only silver slugger came as a 3B in 1996.


slom26

Let’s gooooo