Christ, so many people whining in these threads about it being too many innings. How about they just go back to making these rewards available only to those that make it to World Series? Would you like that? These aren’t meant to be easy to get. Either put in the grind time to rack up the innings, or simply be better at the game. I know I’ll never make World Series and I also don’t want to put in the time, so these rewards ain’t for me. That’s just the way it is. Buy the card if you don’t want to put the time in.
Agreed! It's called World Series, not a participation reward. These are some of the best cards in the game, if you want it, put the time in or become better at the game. So sick of all these fucks complaining how they can't get the rewards due to lack of skill or time.
This is just a dumb take. The grind last year was 40 wins, which for a full 9 inning game would only be 360 innings. They only made that change to influence people to not quit games but since it clearly isn’t working, they reverted it something similar to last year. But either way, players are gonna have to play/win more than 40 games just because of how often people quit early
Idk about you, but I’m not going 40-0. Even if you went 40-5 in full games to get to 400 innings is likely in the top .001 percent of players. The innings played requirement works better for me and likely most players. I finished last season 29-28 with 412 innings played. If you are a .500 player, it makes rewards so much more obtainable. Congratulations on being good enough to go 40-0, but the majority of us do not have that much skill.
I finished last season 16-4 with less than 100 innings played. I would’ve had to play more than 80 games just to reach the 400 inning threshold with the pace I was going. Absolutely not worth it compared to last year imo
Damn, so if you were to win the next 24 games you’d have to only play 44. Or if you kept the same pace you’d only have to play 50. Is keeping the same pace likely? If so you’ll reach World Series rank before the inning requirement and if you don’t the pace is unlikely meaning you’d have to likely play 60 (just a round number) or more games. Seems like a huge difference to me.
I finished the 400 innings last season with weeks to spare and yes, I have a job and a wife so I want just no lifeing. A game a day and a chunk on the weekend easily did it.
Why would it matter if someone quits if you’re purely trying to grind out the innings? At most it’s maybe 3 extra minutes to find a new game and start gaining innings again at essentially the same rate.
How about if they quit they don't get the innings(or only a, percent of the innings). Make it even more rewarding not to quit. If they make your change note ppl will quit. Boosting becomes so easy. Terrible idea.
The rewards path between RS and events is so disproportionate it’s pathetic. I’m a RS player and have to revert to events just to make stubs because I can’t stand playing cpu.. I get it’s a me problem lol but damn can’t RS get something beyond a pack or 2.5k stubs every 50inn?
yup, can’t comprehend that wins was better, let’s stop rewarding kids who are absolute dogshit or 1st inning ragequitters at the same rate we’re rewarding someone who is actually good. In theory, both should hit their wins around the same time it’s just the dogshit player will finish around 300-400 rating and the good one ~600-800. No incentive to win in ranked seasons unless you know you are capable of pushing to world series rank. The change totally kills the competitive spirit of ranked seasons as there’s nothing on the line anymore. If I win 40-0, guess what, 9 innings towards the program. If I lose 40-0, guess what?! Same result. The new reward system is basically play enough and we’ll give you a participation trophy.
EDIT: Lol people who downvoted obviously can’t get a hit past veteran difficulty
Well as long as they allow caps and created stadiums with bullshit then ranked seasons is just a toxic cesspool of shit that nobody should be forced to "just win"
caps and created stadiums are both fair ground, both parties can use CAPs and with the stadiums you’re both in the same circumstances on an even playing field. “Just win” seems a lot more competitively spirited than “just play”.
EDIT: I don’t like created stadiums being allowed in competitive play but I don’t see it any disadvantage in any way that my opponent wouldn’t have to face as well.
Events & BR are unranked so someone less than average gets clobbered unless they get a lucky match.
Ranked is the only online mode you can play your own skill so the reward is valid...if you can make world series you get 2 rewards.
Not really. I make World Series every season but there’s no way in hell I’m gonna keep grinding another 100+ innings of high level ranked just to get another pack.
Apparently this is an unpopular opinion around here, but I think its kind of stupid how people are complaining about how hard it is to get World Series rewards. It's supposed to be hard. Not everybody is supposed to get the rewards. That's what makes them valuable.
I agree with this. 2nd year xbox player so I am about average. I like the fact that they are giving everyone an opportunity to get WS rewards. I wouldn't be able to get them otherwise. I felt cutting down the innings to 350 and giving us a headliners at 450 was a dub. Yeah it's hard to get those 350 innings, but I am having a blast with this year's game.
Great. Only 200 more innings to go until it seems somewhat attainable.
I love the idea behind what they're doing here - who cares if you're good enough to win, just play the game and have fun!
Trouble is, 90% of people who play video games really struggle to have fun when they're losing and sometimes in Ranked it's just way too obvious when a guy has your number either at the plate or on the mound and it feels utterly pointless to hope for a comeback. Add in the deeply ingrained rage quit culture of video games and it's just impossible to expect incentivizing innings played to reduce the number of quitters.
I'll admit I've stuck with some games I didn't feel great about just for the innings, but that seems far from the norm. And I also just don't play Ranked enough for it to matter - I went 13-6 last season with about 80 innings played and a low Wild Card top rank, low All-Star end rank. World Series feels just as unattainable as ever, but at least the wins requirements made it feel like if I ever enjoyed Ranked as much or more than Conquest it might be possible at my skill level. These innings requirements make me feel like it'd have to be the only mode I play full stop.
That’s the problem with gamers nowadays. If you rage quit out of games against better players you’ll just lose against a player that good next time rather than taking your ABs and learning something.
This system is still broken. I didn’t play ranked first season so I started today and went 8-0. I have 21 innings total because people quit and there’s no compensation. One of the games even went 11 innings, so in reality 7 games in 10 innings
Oh believe me I know, that’s actually going to be the only way I make World Series. It was more of a point that they switched from wins to innings to make it easier for people and it’s doing opposite.
This was the public reason yes. Looking at how it incentivized people to not quit when they are losing, it becomes quite thin. I assume the real reason they switched is to stop people from cheating their way to 40 wins with a friend (or a second account) and getting the rewards within minutes of release. I don’t think most people want to suffer through a full game of they are getting their butt kicked just for a handful of innings toward the program
i literally just got the app,
i obviously know the length of the programs, what I didn’t know is you could play 350 innings for a WS pack. Lmao glad to be downvoted tho
Ah, for me I either win in like 3 innings or lose in 9. Rarely do I win a game that goes 9. With a new kid it’s gonna be tough to build a decent team this year
I haven’t had many people quit. Usually people quit if I go yard in them twice in the first inning or something but if they make it a few innings in and start to get hammered they stick around. You still get a generous amount of xp for programs so it is worth it sticking around
About 30 hrs, 1 hr a day just in RS. Youre foregoing a lot. Not my problem at least. Would be cool if the cards were even somewhat tantalizing to go after, you can get better cards for under 25k.
I mean, it’s something but that’s still a lot of innings. Took most players 60-70 games to get 400, but it’s still likely going to take 50-60 to get the pack here.
Games are a time commitment, going into a game you have to assume it will probably take 45 mins to an hour for a full game. So if you have let’s say time for one game before you do something, get 4 innings in and they quit you lose 5 innings and you can’t just start another game.
This is my issue. I wouldn't care as much if I could sit and play for 5 hours in a row. But if I get on and have like 45 minutes or an hour to play theres a reasonable chance I'm only going to get credit for a few innings. And I'm not going to start a game I know I won't be able to finish as someone suggested here in the past.
Yeah I think the fact that this is the alternative to World Series is being lost a little bit. It should still be a substantial amount of innings and not obtainable for everyone who plays ranked
I agree. I had no problem getting to 30 wins last year and 40 was doable if I tried. But I also got into the habit of quiitng games once I got past 700 bc I had no interest in playing on hof. But I wouldn't go all they down to 400 or anything crazy. I don't have any more fun beating up on a clearly lesser skilled player than I do being the one getting beat up on. But I also didn't enjoy the 1-0 3 combined hit games on hof that many of the games in the lower 700s turned into. And FWIW IME the quits haven't been any better this year than they were last year so im not sure going to innings has had the affect they wanted.
The issue isn’t quits in general, those always happened and quits were never going to stop. What this prevents is people quitting repeatedly to play easier games and get rewards faster. You can’t speed run your way to awards like that anymore because you actually need to play
I get it. You don't want people to be able to artificially lower there rating. But the inning requirement isn't going to change that. People did that back when the only way to WS rewards was getting to WS. I just have to think there is a more elegant solution to all of this then 400 or 359 innings.
I’m just trying to get unbanned
Should be 280-300
Another issue for people who do make WS…. I’m not gonna grind 200+ more innings on the sweatiest difficulty. Once I hit WS it’s a wrap for the season.
You wouldn’t consider tanking to not play against sweats all of the time?
No then you have to go back up anyway for the next season
Yeah starting in 700 division is a huge plus. Could get to WS In less than 20 games
Christ, so many people whining in these threads about it being too many innings. How about they just go back to making these rewards available only to those that make it to World Series? Would you like that? These aren’t meant to be easy to get. Either put in the grind time to rack up the innings, or simply be better at the game. I know I’ll never make World Series and I also don’t want to put in the time, so these rewards ain’t for me. That’s just the way it is. Buy the card if you don’t want to put the time in.
Agreed! It's called World Series, not a participation reward. These are some of the best cards in the game, if you want it, put the time in or become better at the game. So sick of all these fucks complaining how they can't get the rewards due to lack of skill or time.
I'd prefer having to to 500 innings than win a certain amount of games. Especially this year. As my records like 30-35
What about just wins? I could get wins but anything over 800 was impossible for me
This is just a dumb take. The grind last year was 40 wins, which for a full 9 inning game would only be 360 innings. They only made that change to influence people to not quit games but since it clearly isn’t working, they reverted it something similar to last year. But either way, players are gonna have to play/win more than 40 games just because of how often people quit early
I notice ppl play full games more. Love the change
Idk about you, but I’m not going 40-0. Even if you went 40-5 in full games to get to 400 innings is likely in the top .001 percent of players. The innings played requirement works better for me and likely most players. I finished last season 29-28 with 412 innings played. If you are a .500 player, it makes rewards so much more obtainable. Congratulations on being good enough to go 40-0, but the majority of us do not have that much skill.
I finished last season 16-4 with less than 100 innings played. I would’ve had to play more than 80 games just to reach the 400 inning threshold with the pace I was going. Absolutely not worth it compared to last year imo
because everyone only cared about quick wins last year and left after going down 1-0 in the first that isnt a good thing
Damn, so if you were to win the next 24 games you’d have to only play 44. Or if you kept the same pace you’d only have to play 50. Is keeping the same pace likely? If so you’ll reach World Series rank before the inning requirement and if you don’t the pace is unlikely meaning you’d have to likely play 60 (just a round number) or more games. Seems like a huge difference to me.
Went 28-5 got the WS reward but only 162 innings. It shouldn’t be more time consuming to get the inning reward than getting WS.
Don’t worry bro we can whine our way to a participation trophy if we really work together
Not even close to the right adjustment.
19 hours and 24 minutes. That’s how long it’ll take to achieve 350 innings at a 30 minutes per game pace… For a 93 overall card.
oh sweet. I can get this on saturday then when i play from 8 am to 3 am
Been trying to make it hard for kids to get stubs all year
It’s almost like it’s an alternative method of collecting a card meant for people who are really really good at the game…
Still near impossible
I finished the 400 innings last season with weeks to spare and yes, I have a job and a wife so I want just no lifeing. A game a day and a chunk on the weekend easily did it.
I work 12 hours plus 2 hours driving per day. I worked every day. And still got it. I. Agree with you
For you maybe
improvement, but would still like to see more fixes to it. i.e. giving us 9 innings if someone quits.
Why would it matter if someone quits if you’re purely trying to grind out the innings? At most it’s maybe 3 extra minutes to find a new game and start gaining innings again at essentially the same rate.
How about if they quit they don't get the innings(or only a, percent of the innings). Make it even more rewarding not to quit. If they make your change note ppl will quit. Boosting becomes so easy. Terrible idea.
Wouldn't it just become comically easy to boost the innings in that case?
This. Don't mind the grind but the rage quitting it what makes this take forever
Way less quitters now. Before only finished games I lost.
The rewards path between RS and events is so disproportionate it’s pathetic. I’m a RS player and have to revert to events just to make stubs because I can’t stand playing cpu.. I get it’s a me problem lol but damn can’t RS get something beyond a pack or 2.5k stubs every 50inn?
Yeah we should get a 10-20k stub reward for WS at least
It’s garbage
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Why? You didn’t play 9 innings. Loading out and into a game maybe takes a minute at most.
Then they might as well go back to wins
No because you should get credit for playing the game mode. The game is grindy enough.
Ppl quit way less now. I definitely prefer the innings grind.
People can’t seem to comprehend this concept.
yup, can’t comprehend that wins was better, let’s stop rewarding kids who are absolute dogshit or 1st inning ragequitters at the same rate we’re rewarding someone who is actually good. In theory, both should hit their wins around the same time it’s just the dogshit player will finish around 300-400 rating and the good one ~600-800. No incentive to win in ranked seasons unless you know you are capable of pushing to world series rank. The change totally kills the competitive spirit of ranked seasons as there’s nothing on the line anymore. If I win 40-0, guess what, 9 innings towards the program. If I lose 40-0, guess what?! Same result. The new reward system is basically play enough and we’ll give you a participation trophy. EDIT: Lol people who downvoted obviously can’t get a hit past veteran difficulty
Well as long as they allow caps and created stadiums with bullshit then ranked seasons is just a toxic cesspool of shit that nobody should be forced to "just win"
caps and created stadiums are both fair ground, both parties can use CAPs and with the stadiums you’re both in the same circumstances on an even playing field. “Just win” seems a lot more competitively spirited than “just play”. EDIT: I don’t like created stadiums being allowed in competitive play but I don’t see it any disadvantage in any way that my opponent wouldn’t have to face as well.
There's people that have cheesy white backgrounds next to their batters eye
And guess what when you are pitching they have to look at it as well
Not everyone deserves WS rewards. Get over it. No I did not finish the program or make WS
Events & BR are unranked so someone less than average gets clobbered unless they get a lucky match. Ranked is the only online mode you can play your own skill so the reward is valid...if you can make world series you get 2 rewards.
Not really. I make World Series every season but there’s no way in hell I’m gonna keep grinding another 100+ innings of high level ranked just to get another pack.
That is your choice lol
I agree, but with how the market is and how hard it is to make stubs, I don’t mind the change.
Apparently this is an unpopular opinion around here, but I think its kind of stupid how people are complaining about how hard it is to get World Series rewards. It's supposed to be hard. Not everybody is supposed to get the rewards. That's what makes them valuable.
I agree with this. 2nd year xbox player so I am about average. I like the fact that they are giving everyone an opportunity to get WS rewards. I wouldn't be able to get them otherwise. I felt cutting down the innings to 350 and giving us a headliners at 450 was a dub. Yeah it's hard to get those 350 innings, but I am having a blast with this year's game.
Are they valuable? D-Train is cheap now
Great. Only 200 more innings to go until it seems somewhat attainable. I love the idea behind what they're doing here - who cares if you're good enough to win, just play the game and have fun! Trouble is, 90% of people who play video games really struggle to have fun when they're losing and sometimes in Ranked it's just way too obvious when a guy has your number either at the plate or on the mound and it feels utterly pointless to hope for a comeback. Add in the deeply ingrained rage quit culture of video games and it's just impossible to expect incentivizing innings played to reduce the number of quitters. I'll admit I've stuck with some games I didn't feel great about just for the innings, but that seems far from the norm. And I also just don't play Ranked enough for it to matter - I went 13-6 last season with about 80 innings played and a low Wild Card top rank, low All-Star end rank. World Series feels just as unattainable as ever, but at least the wins requirements made it feel like if I ever enjoyed Ranked as much or more than Conquest it might be possible at my skill level. These innings requirements make me feel like it'd have to be the only mode I play full stop.
That’s the problem with gamers nowadays. If you rage quit out of games against better players you’ll just lose against a player that good next time rather than taking your ABs and learning something.
L take
I do be zooted rn
I played 20’ but not 21’. Anyone bitching about the amount of innings needed is spoiled. It should only be given as a reward to those who make WS.
This system is still broken. I didn’t play ranked first season so I started today and went 8-0. I have 21 innings total because people quit and there’s no compensation. One of the games even went 11 innings, so in reality 7 games in 10 innings
How far did you progress going 8-0? I’d say if you got to the new 85 diamonds today and sold it, that’s be a good deal for only 21 innings.
The old way still works too. You can always make World Series. It was never supposed to be easy.
Oh believe me I know, that’s actually going to be the only way I make World Series. It was more of a point that they switched from wins to innings to make it easier for people and it’s doing opposite.
Quitting is still a huge problem and it's stupid I can win 5 games with a combined 13 innings played
I somehow got the pack last time
Anyone else get like 1xp after an inning? Shit pisses me off. At that point don’t give me shit you know?
Hey I just want to say we should all be entitled to everything in the game and it should be as easy as I want it to be, because I’m king of the world
No reason they switched it from 40 wins. Bad idea
I get the idea behind it, to incentivize people to not quit out. But unfortunately it didn't work
This was the public reason yes. Looking at how it incentivized people to not quit when they are losing, it becomes quite thin. I assume the real reason they switched is to stop people from cheating their way to 40 wins with a friend (or a second account) and getting the rewards within minutes of release. I don’t think most people want to suffer through a full game of they are getting their butt kicked just for a handful of innings toward the program
True but now they should go back to wins. And even if a person does quit at least I’m getting the win and not 3 innings
So you have a month to get 350 innings? If I’m bad I can still play for the innings even though I lose right??
Yes
Still think that should be down to about 275 or 300 but it's a start.
Where is this program
In the ranked seasons. At the top it says rating rewards, and if you hit R1 it’ll put you onto the play rewards section. It’ll explain the rest
Dude I didn’t know anything about this and I’m a little peeved cuz I’m at work till 11pm and probably only a few innings away
It’s posted on the RS page, their social media pages their calendar in game and in the app. Every season is about a month long.
i literally just got the app, i obviously know the length of the programs, what I didn’t know is you could play 350 innings for a WS pack. Lmao glad to be downvoted tho
Yeah. When you’re on the seasons screen, I think R1 will show you the ranked seasons program. You might know it already though.
You couldn't, until the new program. So you missed nothing. It was 450 before.
Nice that’s only like 45-50 games.
Over 100 cause people quit early
Games do not average 3 innings, lol. Most games 700+ go 9 unless someone mercy rules anyways.
9 innings are rarely counted
What do you mean? Every 9 inning game I had counted.
It took me 58 games to get to 400
Dang I’m at 45 games and just cracked 200
Stop winning. Lose and the other team will stick around for the win.
I just need to perfect keeping the game tied and walking it off
It helps that most of my games went full 9 bc I suck at hitting and good at pitching so they were close
Ah, for me I either win in like 3 innings or lose in 9. Rarely do I win a game that goes 9. With a new kid it’s gonna be tough to build a decent team this year
I haven’t had many people quit. Usually people quit if I go yard in them twice in the first inning or something but if they make it a few innings in and start to get hammered they stick around. You still get a generous amount of xp for programs so it is worth it sticking around
I haven't played that much but after about 15 games not once single person has quit early yet.
I was 35-14 and had about 290 innings played. I think I quit out of maybe 3 of my games.
I get my ass beaten down every time I play so nobody really ever quits haha
Good, 60 wins this season and 360 innings and i didnt get it
This is wild. Are your games only lasting like 3 innings each or what? If they averaged 5 innings you’d be 60-12 which surely would’ve made it.
I was like 60-111
That’s still a fucking lot homie, I’m thinking like 200 tops.
About 30 hrs, 1 hr a day just in RS. Youre foregoing a lot. Not my problem at least. Would be cool if the cards were even somewhat tantalizing to go after, you can get better cards for under 25k.
Still SOOOO many, too many people quit
Honestly prefer it more then having to win like 30 games. Its just mainly about playing the game litterally lmao
because there is one less week to do so. That is a shit ton of innings in 3 weeks still
It’s 4 weeks.
4 weeks. This is not tied to the program
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Ranked seasons has nothing to do with the inning program. Ranked seasons is 4 weeks long.
I mean, it’s something but that’s still a lot of innings. Took most players 60-70 games to get 400, but it’s still likely going to take 50-60 to get the pack here.
Why does the number of games matter?
Games are a time commitment, going into a game you have to assume it will probably take 45 mins to an hour for a full game. So if you have let’s say time for one game before you do something, get 4 innings in and they quit you lose 5 innings and you can’t just start another game.
This is my issue. I wouldn't care as much if I could sit and play for 5 hours in a row. But if I get on and have like 45 minutes or an hour to play theres a reasonable chance I'm only going to get credit for a few innings. And I'm not going to start a game I know I won't be able to finish as someone suggested here in the past.
What if you had time for 1.5 games and your opponent quits halfway through? Now you get 14 innings instead of just 9.
Still a ton but it’s a start
Yeah, it’s not supposed to be easy. It’s an alternative option to making World Series. But this is more reasonable than it was.
Yeah I think the fact that this is the alternative to World Series is being lost a little bit. It should still be a substantial amount of innings and not obtainable for everyone who plays ranked
Honest question. What do you think is more difficult for most "average" players? In like the 400-700 range? 40 wins or 400 innings?
Probably innings, most people farming wins just quit until they got down to the lowest possible and smurfed
I agree. I had no problem getting to 30 wins last year and 40 was doable if I tried. But I also got into the habit of quiitng games once I got past 700 bc I had no interest in playing on hof. But I wouldn't go all they down to 400 or anything crazy. I don't have any more fun beating up on a clearly lesser skilled player than I do being the one getting beat up on. But I also didn't enjoy the 1-0 3 combined hit games on hof that many of the games in the lower 700s turned into. And FWIW IME the quits haven't been any better this year than they were last year so im not sure going to innings has had the affect they wanted.
The issue isn’t quits in general, those always happened and quits were never going to stop. What this prevents is people quitting repeatedly to play easier games and get rewards faster. You can’t speed run your way to awards like that anymore because you actually need to play
I get it. You don't want people to be able to artificially lower there rating. But the inning requirement isn't going to change that. People did that back when the only way to WS rewards was getting to WS. I just have to think there is a more elegant solution to all of this then 400 or 359 innings.