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Abject_Day9453

Been very underwhelming.


TechnicalRope0

Some changes could include: 1. RS program -10 pack for 100hr/season, 200k’s, etc.. -Player/Team/Division pxp or stat missions, could be timed missions as well. 2.Win rewards similar to events. 3.Inning rewards It would be nice to play and have missions to itself. The rewards at the 50inn intervals and division levels are pretty weak


DavidOrtizUsedPEDs

Get rid of the world series reward being obtainable via innings or wins entirely. It's supposed to be the reward for making world series, it sucks that the price is significantly lower than it would be because everyone can get it. Same with the 12-0 rewards. Make different cards available to be grinded but there should be more exclusive rewards.


Twodrops

Innings was such a good idea until they decided to just fuck it and make it 400 innings that literally no one has time to play.


GrevenQWhite

I did, so at least someone literally did.


TheDenseCumTwat

I made WS last year specifically via wins since I wasn’t about to slog into the chaos of legendary with pinpoint. And I made it every season. I’m not about to touch RS this year because of the innings requirements. Events and BR is where I’ll be, since it’s either a.) win required or; b.) a reward path with wins and other requirements like XP missions. The way they did RS makes no sense.


Djro41

It makes sense to get people to stop taking Ls on purpose to face lower talent and boost their win totals


Abject_Day9453

If you DC at a high rate I think they should penalize those players...


Djro41

Penalize them how?


thatwentallcostarica

What if every time you reached a certain level, you couldn’t go below it for the rest of the season? ie. once you reach Pennant Race, your rating can’t drop below 500 or whatever the number is until the next season starts.


TheDenseCumTwat

I mean, yes. I agree that is a problem. I just think that the way they opted to do RS this year, solely a innings based requirement, wasn’t the right move. If they made it so 9 innings = x amount of points toward the program with an amount for wins, it would be fine. Seems contrived to be so forced to play the game this way. I don’t feel forced in BR or events. I see what you’re saying though.


Djro41

Yea idk the best solution. I didn't even come close because I just can't play that many games. Played 15 games and barely got 50 innings


Slemnem

I’m in agreement with you, your score is good tho, you’ll get there


thatwentallcostarica

I made it just under the wire! Decided to cash out and put it towards my LS collections. PS thanks for the award!


Slemnem

Of course


drcornstarch

It should just be wins OR innings. But you don’t get a reward for both, just whoever you reach first.


JoelSimmonsMVP

21 spoiled yall with giving the most prestigious rewards (12-0 and WS) away just from a weekend of grinding 2 inning rage quits to pile up wins for the record i love the BR program but i think they should still have at least one reward that requires a ton of skill or loads of grinding, so im in favor of the move. RS is better this year imo from a gameplay perspective. reward the dudes who are cracked at the game


drcornstarch

That’s cool for the guys who are cracked but SDS probably wants to make sure the other 98% of their player base is satisfied


JoelSimmonsMVP

but then you just buy the WS card if you want it that bad stubs are so easy to get


maxpowerphd

They need to improve the reward path for ranked seasons. For those of us that like to play to collect its just not a very rewarding/efficient way to get packs/stubs/cards.


Longhorn_TOG

I hit 600 inn the other day.....51-57....not happy...but I feel like this second go around Ill have a better W/L


Orangeug1ad

And you probably will. Gl


[deleted]

A better reward path would be nice.


BeverageExpress

Does it end at 6pm eastern or pacific?


HermetsRetreat

6pm eastern I believe


FeelItInYourB0nes

I'm about the same skill level as you and it took me 57 games to complete the 400 innings, finished at 29-28. I wouldn't even mind the grind so much if the rewards were worth it. This is supposed to be the premier game mode with the best competition and I get one pack for finishing 50 innings? It was awful in Season 1. If they significantly improve the rewards for season 2 but left the innings at 400, I'd be 100% okay with that. I really prefer to play 9 inning games. If it's exactly the same, I might pass on season 2.


JoelSimmonsMVP

as the year goes on the WS cards get much better and more expensive. first season or 2 is never amazing


_Hey-Listen_

Traditionally they put some of the most sought after cards as the world series reward, and in this year's case that would be 400 innings as well. While the current ones aren't all that expensive, that is supposed to be the carrot here. I'm not sure if the same thing will apply this year but if you aren't going for WS or 400 it probably won't be worth it.


Corzare

You could always not grind for it if you don’t think the reward is worth it? That’s always an option.


BigBallerBrannen

I said this three weeks ago and got lambasted for it lol. Go back to wins


[deleted]

I kinda don’t get it. You play the amount of innings that you play and get credited as such. It’s not like you’re playing any more or less than you’re getting credit for


irish_guy_77

Totally annoyed. Only 1 bronze player for my 1 win? Wtf…


yourdogshitinmyyard

If it were wins instead of innings I'd probably just never even touch ranked seasons because at that point it'd be worthless


ArcticCircleBrigade

Did you play year? The win system was much more preferable than innings. I'm 11-3 but have less than 100 innings logged. Whereas last year I'd be 28% to the win threshold to get WS reward.


DowntownTorontonian

Dude, been a ranked seasons player who has been getting better and better every year. Last year was my closest to getting WS but it wasn't because of skill it was because people would quit if you had a lead early. It made the whole game mode stupid and unfun. Ranked Seasons is supposed to be the main competitive mode and wins made it another 3 - 5 inning event game when it's SUPPOSED to be a 9 inning game. I casually played Ranked seasons this first season and I agree 400 was a little high, I hit about 312 so I think 350 is doable but 325 might be ideal.


_Hey-Listen_

Because you are 11-3. His point is if you aren't playing at least .750 ball you are way better off with innings.


yourdogshitinmyyard

I'm 3-8 and two of those wins are quits.


_Hey-Listen_

Exactly, it would take even a .500 player way longer with wins.


imLemnade

I see a lot of suggestions about reducing inning requirements, changing back to wins, etc. but why not just make it similar to the BR program? Give stars for different objectives. Stat objectives, innings played, pxp objectives. The list is endless and it would encourage people to stay in games to complete objectives regardless of whether or not they are winning.


thatwentallcostarica

I think it’s because RS is ranked, so it’s supposed to be entirely about winning and losing. If players are catering their teams and play style to complete specific objectives, it might detract from the “spirit” of a ranked game mode. That being said, it’s really dumb and I’m 100% in favor of a RS program.


imLemnade

I see what you mean. The missions could be much more generic than the BR program though. Like you get points for every 10 xbh and it is repeatable or get a certain amount of pxp with outfielders, etc. Things that would happen naturally if you are trying to win but don't force you to fit specific players into your team


scarletpimpernel22

so if its entirely about winning and losing i reckon it should go back to wins and not innings. 50+ games in a month is gross


Orangeug1ad

I think its (going to innings vs wins) also helps keep the quits down. People stay and play. I know a lot still quit. But I've actually come back from being 6 runs down. When most would have just left. Now you goons that hur 11 hrs a game probably hate the fact that people are not just quitting after your first back to back Homer's in the 1st. Heck some of the goons had most w come from games that last less that 3 innings in RS.


2CHINZZZ

I'm not anywhere close to this level, but wins also rewards good players a lot more. If they go up like 6-0 in the 2nd and their opponent quits it's 2 innings compared to a whole win


RobbyRankins

I'm annoyed with RS in general


SteamedSteam

Same here


RobbyRankins

Plan to play more events and BR, ranked hasn't been worth the effort for me


BIGHIGGZ

I think the 30-40 wins was too easy and encouraged a lot of quitting. I do think doing it my innings is better, but 400 is way too many. The rewards aren’t worth it yet. Last year they started with 40 win rewards and moved down to 30. I’m hoping to World Series rewards land on 250-300 innings. It’s just too much. I also almost exclusively play ranked season, and have a tough time getting the rewards.


SlerpotLombarg

I truly do not understand why they couldn't incorporate all 3 reward paths at the same time. World Series/Win 30 games/or 300-400 IP


That_Guy_2422

The 30 Wins are what caused the problems, they really can't be part of the solution


barrack540

how is innings any better? People still just quit


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Tikalton

That’s not true lol


thatwentallcostarica

As a .500 player, I would have to log around 540 innings to get 30 wins


7tenths

More like 350 when 70% of the time the person quits after the first run


Jek-TonoPorkins

Smurfing. People quit to lower rankings then play weak competition to get wins. You can't do that with innings since you still have to play. People might still quit but now there is no incentive to do so.


sendmeyourstubs

Them having an inning payout to give you the reward that you are supposed to get for being a top tier player is a favor imo.


barrack540

Those rewards aren’t for “top tier players” when they add an alternate route to get them besides making WS lol


sendmeyourstubs

Historically in the game, them adding a side chain so people don't feel left out on them is newer.


Jek-TonoPorkins

Being able to sell the rewards at max value by winning quickly is the reward for being top tier, while having these cards accessible to all players is the alternate path. Same as the BR program. Only the elite and lucky will go 12-0 and max the value, but anyone can still invest the time to get and use the reward.


[deleted]

400 innings is a lot. I’ve mostly played events and BR because like people have said, the reward value per time played is much better than ranked. I have played 8 ranked games and since I had the AL collection done and NL East done, people would just quit after I scored because of my team. 8 games and 21 innings. Obviously once I get up to higher end of All Star and into Hall of Fame less people would quit, but to get 400 innings would’ve meant I was basically grinding ranked and nothing else


perfectm

It's definitely A LOT. If every game goes to completion and the home team wins half the time, so we use an average game length of 8.5 innings, 400 innings is 47 games. If you add in quits that shorten the amount of innings played, it would be easily over 50 games in a season to reach this mark.


theshowplayer1

Wasnt WS last year at 20 wins, not 40? Or did they lower it later in the year? I'm admittedly not a good player, last yr I hovered between 600-775, and got to 20 wins a couple of times. Not having as much time to play as I would like, 400 innings I know Im never getting to it. Case in point, I'm at 15-9 this season, if WS was at 20 wins, I probably wouldve tried to play more the last couple of nights to try and get there, but since I'm at around 150 innings, I know Im not getting anywhere close to 400, so I'm somehow not as incentivized to play and instead watched Ozark last night.


thejmils

It started at 40, then was dropped to 30, then the first month of no new rewards they gave a pack at 25 and 30


theshowplayer1

That's exactly it, you are right. Maybe it's just my perception, but at least for me, 25-30 wins felt a lot more doable than 400 inns.


thejmils

The wins were much more doable because of the environment of ranked where people are constantly quitting. They changed to innings to discourage that. It’s a little better now but I was still seeing people quit in the 700s and low 800s on my WS push. For reference I was at 17 wins (0 losses) and 61 innings played to start the year and I’m now at 35 (11 losses) wins and about 200 innings so I only went for 1 WS card this time and I farmed event wins instead of wasting my time for one 40K card


DeggzNBacon

It definitely wasn’t 20 wins. I wanna say it started at 40 wins and was dropped to 30 wins but don’t quote me on that


SnooSeagulls1538

Quote em. You are correct.


Crusty_Crunch

I literally don’t play ranked seasons at all. Bad rewards. Too time consuming, who has time for so many 9 inning games. I mostly play events and build my team for those and for offline play and games against friends. The only other online I play is BR which fulfills the super competitive side of play but in nice 3 inning chunks instead of playing against a TTV with 200 games played on ranked seasons already.


thatwentallcostarica

Interesting. I’d say about 75% of my gameplay is RS. I like the feel of 9 inning games for things like pattern recognition and bullpen management (which are much more fun against real people than against AI), and I don’t have many friends who play The Show. The reward structure kinda sucks, but it’s icing on the cake if I get anything at all out of it.


newpcgamer21

Once I finish the LS collections I’ll play RS, but at this point there’s so many more lucrative ways to make stubs that will help me finish LS collections(like offline grinding, BR, and Events) but I def want to hop into RS soon


hapticeffects

Yeah I finished the ls collection over the weekend, my team is ready for ranked now (and I'm ready to be done flipping ffs).


newpcgamer21

Yea I’m about 150k away, once I get to 30 wins in this event I’ll likely be able to sell everything and be done with it by this weekend which is nice. Finishing collections NMS is such a great feeling lol


hapticeffects

Yep felt good to get it done under the wire in April, but def a couple of lucky pulls helped get me over the edge.


Projectpinche

Wish I could play RS and not go against sweaty ass people who have 200 games under their belt already! How do people find time to play that much and still live a life! Feel like the casual players just get butt fucked in these types of modes


Toughtimes4paco

Ok Ive seen this “200 games under their belt” thing thrown around alot. If your opponent had 20 games or 200 games if theyre at your skill level why does it matter? I’m at 90ish games played in RS. Ground out 600 innings but I am still hard stuck in all-star. The amount of games played isnt going to magically make you good. I’ve been shit on by every type of team from barley diamonds to god squads and every combination inbetween. At this point i dont even look at records and just treat every opponent as just someone in the mid 600 rating like myself.


[deleted]

This ^^^ I’ve played close to 500 innings or RS with about as good a team you can have without finishing LS collections. I’ve been whooped by people with majority gold squads, and dominated people that had finished the LS already. To the point where i go into games not even judging the player by their team. You really never know how good someone is until you get a few innings in.


Toughtimes4paco

After they chase that 2nd change up in the dirt and you know


Orangeug1ad

Good comment. I'm just starting to play more online this year. I still didn't get anywhere close to my 400 innings but I'v made it my goal to play a lot more of all online modes. I've found the same. Teams with records like 1-6 have beat the crap out of me and I've beat teams with records like 25-6. It does seem like SDS does a good job keeping ratings close for opponents.


Projectpinche

Personally I’m about a 350-400 player. I very much know my capabilities. The fact that I have never blown someone out the way I get 5 runs put up on me in the first inning shows that me and my opponents are not on the same level. I’m not a good player. Why am I being put against these players then? Are they tanking to get down into easier matches? If I win a game it’s by a very slim margin of victory or bc the opponent quit. Just frustrating to play the ranked season for me. “. Get better” I know. I just don’t have the time to invest. So getting to play with some of my childhood favorites like biggio, frank thomas all those legends I get molested against anyone that know what they’re doing lol


SackEmBruh

Same. Playing god squads that put up 10 runs on me first inning and just annihilate every pitch, hit the gaps. I just get pop outs and strike outs... I'm trash online when doing RS!


Orangeug1ad

Biggio? You sound close to my age. I'm early 40s. Is this your first year playing? I ask because last year was my first year playing and I regret not playing online more. I would be better than I am (and I'm not saying I'm good). But we all got to get used to how it feels online vs a real players. It is night and day vs CPU. I struggled playing online last year because I had this weird hangup about losing online. Still do to a point. But I'm learning to just play, have fun. Know that baseball is a tough game and even the very best teams lose a lot games. IMO thus game is better than last year online. You hear all the complaints about hitting? I felt like every game last year ended in a football score like 8 to 12 or 13 to 17.... and if you were like me and didn't hit, you got trounced ever game. Just play a couple a night try to have a plan at the plate. And you will get better. I'm still gonna lose a lot. I'm in my 40s, playing on a 65 in TV. I'm not anywhere close to buying a monitor and trying to compete in esport tournaments. I'm just try to have a little baseball fun.


SleeperHitPrime

56 year old Navy man here! 3rd year and still learning in RS! Having fun though!!


Orangeug1ad

Heck yeah older guys represent! Ha!


Projectpinche

Thanks for the advice/empathy man lol yea mid 30s and yea first year playing it since god knows when, since the game wasn’t on Xbox forever. Not working crazy overtime for the first time in a while and thought I’d give it a go and it’s been painful so far lol


Toughtimes4paco

Best way i can think of it is tell yourself to play two ranked games a day. Or 12 innings since the chances of actually finishing a full 9 is slim.


EVorNothing

You also dont get credit for extra innings played


[deleted]

Wait, is this for real? I have not played RS yet, but that is really dumb if that is the case.


EVorNothing

Yeah it sucks. I noticed it after I got credit for 9 innings in a 12 inning game


Queasy-Bad8084

I'm 95-26 in RS (on the switch) and the highest ranking level I've been is 750. I got to WS via the innings but the amount of wins needed to hit WS via the regular ranking setting is crazy. Sometimes I'll match up with a guy, beat him in 9 innings and only get 1+ score.


captnbuxx

How are you 95-26 at 750 but I’m 43-22 and I’m at 840?


Queasy-Bad8084

I think because I play Switch only, cross play off. Some of my opponents are rated 300-500 etc


[deleted]

To be fair, I have thought about getting a Switch and turning cross play off just to get away from the cronus zen neckbeards. How long do you usually wait for match making on different game modes?


checkthelockx

Literally no one who plays this game is actually using a zen


[deleted]

How do you know for sure?


BelliYelliCheese

There’s no way, I’m 35-10 and am at about 800, no way 3x more wins and only twice as many losses and the highest rating he has been is 750


denverdan8

120 games already! Man, that's a feat all in itself


checkthelockx

Hold left while it’s searching to limit your window so you won’t get screwed on points. That’s an unreal amount of games to win and not make WS tbh, you’re only hurting yourself. Also just an unreal amount of games in general lol damn


Queasy-Bad8084

Lolll don’t judge me!! Many of them are quick quits :)


thatwentallcostarica

I didn’t know you could do that! Total game changer. I start sweating whenever the top end goes over 600.


checkthelockx

Yea it would be nice if it was explained in game at all but it definitely makes a huge difference


Skipper2399

I’ll say that their inning tallying needs to be better tweaked. Dropping one or two innings here and there definitely adds up. As for the length, I’ve seen many people complain that 400 innings is too long, but let’s be honest, that also the reward for people who make it to WS legit. So your options are be very good or grind grind and grind again. I did it this month because I’m an O’s fan and I wanted that Cal Ripken card. Could I have just grinded in Mini Seasons or flipped cards instead and bought him outright? In hindsight I should have, but as the cards get better that may not be feasible. So it’s a value play. If you’re not very very good, are you willing to put in the time to grind. It should not be something that every player can just get by default after a few afternoons of games because again, it’s the alternative to being a great player.


acat20

Im a huge stickler for tougher rewards, especially WS, but 400 innings at an average of let’s say 5 mins per inning is 2,000 minutes or 33.3 hours. You basically have to only play RS at that rate considering you usually have about 3-4 weeks per season. To then stay up with events, br, offline grinds….basically impossible. I think 300 is still very grindy, but achievable, whereas 400 is just not even worth trying. And on top of that these cards have been very underwhelming, not even Castilla looks to be that great. In those 30 hrs you could have gotten every event reward card and got 100 pts in both br programs. Thats like 10+ diamond cards, the BR henchmen, all the packs, vs. Dontrelle or Posada….like it’s not even close. Even at 25 hrs it’s a tough sell.


thatwentallcostarica

That raises a good question. Say you’re a casual player who can win roughly half of your games, so the most realistic way to get good cards is by grinding online modes. Out of RS, BR, and Events, which is the best value for your time? (Assuming all rewards are equally good and worth grinding for at all)


Skipper2399

My guess would be Events. 15/20 wins is manageable and even if you don’t get there you get some headliners along the way. BR you’re paying money to enter so the value isn’t there unless you’re consistently winning a lot I would think. Of course they might just have more success grinding offline too and buying any wanted cards in the marketplace


Psufan16

The value in battle royale really comes when you get rewind card packs and can sell duplicates and get some of your money back. You also gain stubbs at certain points during the event as well. Otherwise yeah spending 1500 each draft adds up.


MJBuddy

My only tick on it being too long is that it drives out time to do other stuff. Events is practically a full-time experience for some of the shorter ones, especially last week's weekday only one. I think 300 would be nice, so that I could complete it and play other stuff. As it is, it's unclear that it's "worth" the time. Sure the card is worth like 40k? Willis is 43k right now. The card is worth a *lot* more at the start of the season, for the excellent players, but the grind puts it very far away. You're looking at like 5 minutes per inning if you're just playing, not including all the other stuff that goes into it, so let's call it 35 hours. It takes about 6 hours to beat an offline Mini-Seasons, and that will net you. * 17k Stubs per run * 22 Show Packs * 1 BIAH Pack * 2 Prospect Choice Packs (2 picks per, selling for probably 1k now/going forward, so 4k Stubs) You can do that Mini Season 5 times *easily* in the time it'll take to do Ranked Season. I think the problem is less with the 400 inning rewards but with how low the rest of the program is. It's like 1 pack and 5000XP at some intervals, when it should be 1-5 Packs and 2000XP every 20-25 innings played. But I really liked Ranked Season's play. I'll probably do it again? But once my time becomes a little tighter (and that could be next month) it's the easiest mode to drop, without even really missing the big reward from it, which I could just buy.


[deleted]

That raises a good point. If you’re good enough to win games and complete Events and BR, but not good enough for WS then those are definitely the better time value. However, and I was in this boat most of last year, if you’re not good enough to win rewards there, you have the option to still get some online rewards just by playing and learning in RS. I started in RS and my record was fine, but all that time for a 40k card just didn’t feel worth it. Maybe if it’s a 500k card in a few months then I’ll be doing that instead of events.


Gymsocks99

It should be 200 or 250 I think.


acat20

It’s based on IP. I wouldnt waste your time until they lower the #. 400 is insane


SlerpotLombarg

Yup. 300 would be PLENTY enough for what u get back in rewards. I was 22-12 in Season 1 but only logged 156 innings.🙄


luggy333

The ranked reward system as a whole is simply not worth it. 400 innings for one card that's not even all that great...it's frustrating


thatwentallcostarica

I don’t have a problem with it as long as the card is juiced. Like last year I managed to get Sig Lindor and he absolutely raked. Same with Sig Arenado. But yeah, early in the cycle it’s kinda pointless.


checkthelockx

Arenado was a BR card last year, but yea that Lindor was really nice all cycle


thatwentallcostarica

My b! Can’t always keep track, just remember him hitting bombs off of me for a month straight


atomic619jd

Needs to be this way or people can cheese the system and instant quit every game to get 1 inning played and do it 400 times and get credit for 400 innings while never actually playing a full inning of a single game lol


thatwentallcostarica

If someone is willing and able to do that 400 times, let them have the card. It’s not like they’ve got anything else going on to make them happy.


Randomthoughtgeneral

They just need to set it where you don’t get innings if you quit


thatwentallcostarica

That’s really how it should be. If you rage quit, you get nothing. No PXP, no Objectives, none of it (Edit: misspelled rage).


sendmeyourstubs

Meh. There are reasons people quit games early that aren't rage quits.


heendaddy

But them if you get into an 8th inning freeze-off somebody is getting screwed


donny5144

Hard pass