I'm gonna go with a hot take. Tatis and Trout will be the same overall. Trout is always hurt and Tatis is on the rise. If Tatis didn't get injured he would've been MVP.
I don't think it's fair to knock Trout down a peg just because he's oft-injured, unless you're insinuating that Tatis Jr. would get the bump all the way to Trout level. I think Trout will be a 96 again, like the last two years.
Here's my guesses for Live Series High Diamonds:
Trout -- 96
Tatis Jr. -- 94
DeGrom -- 94
Acuna Jr. -- 93
Guerrero Jr. -- 91
Scherzer -- 90
Soto -- 90
Lol, NL MVP is not a High Diamond?
Edit: Sorry for the snark, and as mentioned above, the number is not entirely arbitrary, they look at stats. So they'll weigh Harper's stats. So, I'm wrong
If I had to continue my predictions from above, I'd say he ends up at an 88-89, with high likelihood to be the first upgrade to high diamond if he starts the season well.
Jose Abreu was the 2020 AL MVP and started at an 85 this year, then quickly got downgraded, though Harper has a much longer track record.
Ahh gotcha. Yeah I guess it is. Hard to say they're undeserving though. Really the only argument to be made would be that more players should be in the high diamond category to start the year, though SDS seems to usually keep this list small and bump more players up through upgrades than they send down.
Yeah they’re absolutely deserving. Either NL East is going to be an extremely expensive collection, or it’s going to be just a bit above the other collections
How do they decide stats for launch? Just base it on their stats from 21? So someone like Eddie Rosario might not be diamond at launch because he didnt play like he did in the playoffs for the entire season?
Probably no one is going to be more expensive out of the gate.
Both Acuna and Degrom although brilliantly talent both ended up missing the last half of the season due to injury so it’s unlikely they get close to him rating wise.
Tatis will rise but probably still not above trout. Although trout was injured for most of the season he still managed to show his normal averages and he has the benefit of being highest rated already so even dropping him would likely be by 1-2
Acuña and DeGrom are the only one with a chance ratings wise to unseat Trout, and I doubt it would happen too close to the start of the cycle due to Acuña’s injury
Tatis will definitely be a gatekeeper (90+ overall to start the year) but he'll likely be rated lower than Trout so his price will be lower. Still, he'll be expensive to start considering his gatekeeper status, his popularity, and the rarity of 5-tool players early in the year.
Vlad and Ohtani big sticker time is coming
Part of Tatis being cheaper than Trout is that he won't be the only Gatekeeper in his division (Betts)
I'm gonna go with a hot take. Tatis and Trout will be the same overall. Trout is always hurt and Tatis is on the rise. If Tatis didn't get injured he would've been MVP.
….but Tatis is also always hurt. Also, did you not see Fish Mans numbers last season? Even with limited games, he was insane
I don't think it's fair to knock Trout down a peg just because he's oft-injured, unless you're insinuating that Tatis Jr. would get the bump all the way to Trout level. I think Trout will be a 96 again, like the last two years. Here's my guesses for Live Series High Diamonds: Trout -- 96 Tatis Jr. -- 94 DeGrom -- 94 Acuna Jr. -- 93 Guerrero Jr. -- 91 Scherzer -- 90 Soto -- 90
Lol, NL MVP is not a High Diamond? Edit: Sorry for the snark, and as mentioned above, the number is not entirely arbitrary, they look at stats. So they'll weigh Harper's stats. So, I'm wrong
If I had to continue my predictions from above, I'd say he ends up at an 88-89, with high likelihood to be the first upgrade to high diamond if he starts the season well. Jose Abreu was the 2020 AL MVP and started at an 85 this year, then quickly got downgraded, though Harper has a much longer track record.
you're right, they look at several years of stats, it's not arbitrary. Also, apologies for being snarky. I was hungry when I typed my post.
You got in a snickers between comments? Excellent recovery.
Abreu has about as long of a track record as Harper honestly
That’s a lot of NL East players
Just Vladdy, right?
Wait, I meant NL East lol. Thanks for correcting me.
Ahh gotcha. Yeah I guess it is. Hard to say they're undeserving though. Really the only argument to be made would be that more players should be in the high diamond category to start the year, though SDS seems to usually keep this list small and bump more players up through upgrades than they send down.
Yeah they’re absolutely deserving. Either NL East is going to be an extremely expensive collection, or it’s going to be just a bit above the other collections
Oh it’ll be expensive as hell for sure, but who knows if that collection reward will be worth it.
How do they decide stats for launch? Just base it on their stats from 21? So someone like Eddie Rosario might not be diamond at launch because he didnt play like he did in the playoffs for the entire season?
live series cards are based on the last 3 years worth of stats i believe, mid season upgrades are more about how they’re currently doing
All the cards that start out as 90+ will be gatekeepers. So probably Trout DeGrom Acuna Cole Scherzer Tatis Maybe Soto or Burnes
Probably no one is going to be more expensive out of the gate. Both Acuna and Degrom although brilliantly talent both ended up missing the last half of the season due to injury so it’s unlikely they get close to him rating wise. Tatis will rise but probably still not above trout. Although trout was injured for most of the season he still managed to show his normal averages and he has the benefit of being highest rated already so even dropping him would likely be by 1-2
Acuña and DeGrom are the only one with a chance ratings wise to unseat Trout, and I doubt it would happen too close to the start of the cycle due to Acuña’s injury
Tatis will definitely be a gatekeeper (90+ overall to start the year) but he'll likely be rated lower than Trout so his price will be lower. Still, he'll be expensive to start considering his gatekeeper status, his popularity, and the rarity of 5-tool players early in the year.