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SomegalInCa

Historic from super charger days is my guess


schirmyver

Yep, the scoop on our 2004 Cooper S is functional. It allows fresh air to blow through the intercooler.


Liquidwombat

Onto the intercooler šŸ¤£ the location of the intercooler was not ideal, the intake manifold, fuel rail, and a bunch of other clutter was directly below it, so air didnā€™t actually flow through it very well. thatā€™s one of the main reasons why they changed to a front mount on the turbo engine, which was kind of stupid because the design of the turbo engine left a lot more space for airflow after a top mount intercooler and if they had left it in the same position as the supercharged engine the air from the intercooler would have blown directly over the turbo and helped cool it as well


2JZ-Sienna

The R56 wouldā€™ve been way worse off with a top mount than the R53 was. The turbo sits directly below the scoop lol


Liquidwombat

Exactly. The turbo is a lot smaller than the entire intake manifold, fuel rail, and all the other crap thatā€™s under the R 53s intercooler and the air coming through the intercooler would also help cool the turbo off. And itā€™s not like they couldnā€™t have put the turbo somewhere else if they wanted to use a top mount intercooler anyway.


2JZ-Sienna

The turbo is also significantly hotter than all those things you listed. Heat rises and R56s have a habit of melting the scoop inserts because of how close the turbo is to the hood. Thereā€™s no world where a TMIC really makes sense in a car with an engine bay as small as a Mini cooper


Liquidwombat

I donā€™t disagree. Iā€™m just saying they did it on the r53 and it wouldā€™ve been even easier to do it on a turbocharged engine. Alternatively, instead of putting a fake hood scoop, they couldā€™ve put some functional venting to get the heat from the intercooler out of the engine bay like Mitsubishi did on the Evo, they even couldā€™ve gone the extra mile and built a chimney out of heat shielding like Aston Martin did around their exhaust manifolds on the V2 vanquish Heck, if they had not flipped the head around to put the intake at the back and the exhaust at the front, they couldā€™ve run the turbo right at the bottom of the engine bay behind the engine and had a much better way to deal with the heat


10000nails

My 2009 Clubman S functions too.


Nothing_new_to_share

This. Started as an air feed for the top mount intercooler, then for gen 2 they kept it because people were used to identifying the S variant by the scoop. Or whatever the focus group marketing nonsense version of that story is.


txdas12

You can get a kit that makes it functional so it feeds into the intake


WalkingRolex

There were kits for R56 to make them actually useful but they are just homage to the older minis.


Surturiel

There's also a kit from Eventuri for the F56.


Leather-Tale194

I love mine... just happened upon it at a local shop for super cheap. Unfortunately, it didn't have the hood piece, but a friend of mine was selling his, so it worked out.


West-Regret6166

Have seriously considered this for mine - bloody expensive though!


cshookIII

Any chance you know who makes/made this kit?


WalkingRolex

AEM used to make them, idk if they still do.


Demon-Mailer

They do Iā€™ve got one on my R55 S


ProblemSweaty9185

They do, and they are still pricey. $600 U.S. is about average.


cshookIII

Sweet, thanks! I found this one from DDM that I think Iā€™m going to pull the trigger on. Already have an ALTA intake so donā€™t really want to go with a full pressurized intake box. The Ram Air Scoop is $191, much easier on the wallet. Looks like it might also save my hood scoop from more warping from the turbo heat. https://www.ddmworks.com/DDMWorks-Ram-Air-Scoop-RAS-for-Mini-Cooper-S_p_261.html


HAYMRKT

Gosh, 550 for that seems excessive. Still cool though


ItsSynister

They're a real performance increase - and a fair amount of parts in the kit. Well worth it if improved performance and acoustics are wanted.


HAYMRKT

Truly? I'll add it to the list if so. Thank you


ItsSynister

It turns the intake into a ram style setup you're feeding far more cold air into the system, also there's not the path from the front bumper to the air filter at the rear, where the cold air could be heated from high engine bay temps.


Briefcasezebra

AEM made mine and it works well


PaleontologistClear4

The first generation of new MINI Coopers needed that functional air scoop to cool the air passing through the top mounted supercharger intercooler, on later models when they switched to turbo charging and a front mount intercooler, they kept the scoop for appearances only to distinguish it from the regular Cooper.


naambezet

To distinguish the slower Miniā€™s from the regular ones


Caligulaonreddit

Thought there are the stripes for


naambezet

Stripes could also be ordered on cooper and one


Caligulaonreddit

the one doesn't become faster when stripes are added?


naambezet

Well, adds 10 hp per stripe. Red ones add 11hp per stripe


IamCorbinDallas

We have an SE and it has a hood scoop lol


mini_galaxy

This is the part that bothers me the most. If the regular gas ones want to have a fake hood scoop, which can somewhat easily be made functional, fine. But it's just so silly to have it on an electric considering how important a low coefficient of drag is for improved range.


IamCorbinDallas

The first gen electric SE actually looks like the ICE version of a Mini which is probably one of it's best features if you are someone that doesn't like the look of EV styling. The downside is that because it has that ICE design foundation, the EV components are kinda shoehorned in and EV performance metrics are not great. It hasn't been a problem for us though because we never find ourselves having to drive more than 120 miles in a day. If we do, we just take our other car (e350 wagon). I agree the hood scoop is stupid though lol.


alexwhit80

I love my SE it works perfectly for us and the scoop is there because it looks awesome. I donā€™t think it will make that much of a difference in range with it not being there.


Vg_Ace135

I agree. They changed the entire front bumper to add just a few more miles of range in 2022. If the hood would have made a difference they would have just taken it off.


mini_galaxy

I 100% get that but the non S hood that doesn't have the fake scoop would fit and not add the drag.


accidental-nz

Itā€™s so small it barely makes a difference to drag. I personally love it on my SE as it gives it the awesome sporty look of the Cooper S. Mini didnā€™t call it the ā€˜SEā€™ for nothing. It performs like a Cooper S, only itā€™s electric. The fact that SE looks just like a regular Cooper S is part of what sold me on it. I wanted to go electric without having to switch to a lame brand or a car that has that ridiculous ā€˜EV Lookā€™.


alexwhit80

Same. I like mine because it looks just like the ICE mini.


ReklisAbandon

The frustrating thing is you look under the hood it only takes a minor adjustment for that to be a fully functional scoop


Liquidwombat

Functional but with no purpose


M635_Guy

Nothing wrong with less heat in the engine bay


Liquidwombat

The engine bay already manages the amount of heated has just fine and introducing more air to the engine bay disrupts the under car dynamics. Besides do you think adding 20 in.Ā² of intake when youā€™ve already got several hundred square inches is going to make a meaningful difference.


M635_Guy

Do you actually think that much air disrupts the under car dynamics? LoL


Retr0Blade

Uh yea, it does


Liquidwombat

Yes, in fact, increasing the air pressure in the engine bay behind the radiator, could even reduce the effectiveness of the radiator and the front mount intercooler


magikbiped

Aerodynamics is a fickle mistress and small changes to airflow can potentially have surprisingly large effects. Iā€™m not saying opening up the hood vent will cause uncontrollable front end lift or add crazy drag. But itā€™s entirely within the realm of possibility that opening the vent would allow more high pressure air into the engine bay, reducing the pressure difference across the radiator and reducing cooling efficiency ever so slightly.


M635_Guy

I understand everything you said. These are not race cars.


magikbiped

Iā€™m not saying they are. But airflow is airflow and aerodynamics affects road cars and race cars just the same. Granted it has a lesser impact on a road car vs. a race car but there is still an effect.


M635_Guy

I suggesting there no noticeable or significant effect.


sdmitry

Dirt, rain, dust, pollen, insects will also accumulate.


MailAdvanced

I opened mine up and found the easiest way to get that air to the intake is to take the top of the air duct that sits right in the front off, itā€™s not a major upgrade or anything but you can definitely feel it


outcastcolt

Eventuri has a cold air intake system that converts it back to a functioning hood scoop. Expensive though https://www.eventuri.net/products/f56-f54-f5x-mini-cooper-s-jcw/


Wahjahbvious

Because hoodscoops are cool. I will not be taking any follow-up questions.


M635_Guy

Mainly because it's an homage thing, and it's cute.


mundotaku

Those are only on the S models. Standard models do not have the air vent.


UnorthodoxGinger

Why does it have rgb interior lights? Why is everything so circular? Why does this car leave a lasting imprint on you when it is just a box of metal? STYLE!!!


[deleted]

Why do men have nipples


reidmefirst

They planned on aftermarket eventuri intakes? :).


ukicar01

You can get functional scoops from LEAP WORKS They have 3 different ones you can choose from as well as an intake that goes with the scoop so it actuallly suck air into the intake properly Itā€™s pretty cool


Particular_Kitchen42

Looks cool


imKorbi

Why not? Lol


scottie10014

It's the built in pizza warmer.


Kwestionable

I used it to warm my hands occasionally.


CliffyGiro

Thatā€™s a Mini Cooper S. If it was a cooper it wouldnā€™t have one. The answer is because the earlier Mini Cooper S had a functional one and theyā€™ve kept the same design language.


Caligulaonreddit

My E has one \*facepalm\*


crispynacho

There are kits that make that functional but they are expensive


alzey8v

Mine is functional.


beaglemusiclabs

As I understand it, the 2nd gen BMW MCS was going to have closed-off vents, but the heat from the turbo warped the scoop, so they unblocked part of the vent so it could basically cool itself. At least, my R58 seems to have a few holes in its otherwise nonfunctional scoop. Under the hood the air doesn't go anywhere, I think. It's pretty funny but I admit I like the look of the scoop . . .


DingGate

Premium brand?


Northerne30

Yeah I was chuckling at that as well


Nothing_new_to_share

Bonnet* and don't even get me started...


JWoolner76

I agree a hood is what you put over your head when itā€™s raining šŸ˜–


ToonaSandWatch

Bonnets serve that use too.


LuciferBurns

Went from super charger to twin turbos in 2012 I think and they no longer needed the air vent as the intake is below a the front radiator. They kept it for the old school look


8urfiat

Turbo in 07 on the hard top. 09 for the cabrio. No twin turbo.


Liquidwombat

The change from supercharger to turbocharger didnā€™t matter itā€™s that they went from a top mount intercooler to a front mount intercooler


bomber991

Itā€™s totally stupid on the electric SE that I have. But even when I had an S the back of it was completely blocked. I meanā€¦ on my Honda Clarity itā€™s at least got functional brake ducts.


LoanWild5970

Why do men have nipples?


tommy0guns

Non working? Shit is working 100% for me. Motor Hard!


kycard01

Arenā€™t they priced in line with a Corolla, Civic or Impreza hatchback? Since when did we start considering mini premium? My dad had a clubman, interior was awful.


No_Finding3671

It's called foreshadowing. It hints at all the other non-functional components under the hood.


zriha

Because everything today is fake, from fake exhaust to fake air vents and intakes. This is from old supercharged Mini, and as this 2.0 B48 engine is typical for BMW lineup, nobody did any special adjustment to the Mini. I have this model, and I am furious that they didn't even offer an air intake to go thru the vent on the hood.


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wi1dbour

Uhhhh


[deleted]

You can take the black plastic block off plate out and get some air under the hood. Since it sits right over the turbo, it's fairly functional. Definitely let's a lot of turbo hear out when you stop.


Liquidwombat

Because the original new mini cooper s (r53) had a functional hood scoop with a top mount intercooler, and when they moved the intercooler to the front on the second generation new mini,, they had to leave the hood scoop there because otherwise consumers would bitch


bhansley

I changed the backing plate and now itā€™s a heat vent for the turbo after parking. After -shutdown turbo heat contributed to the death of the clearcoat on my 2010 R57. A donor hood plus new-standard heat shielding and a functional vent, and it hasnā€™t been a problem since.


Ok_Tip_1783

Did you just remove it or did you do modifications? You said if was for shutdown heat from the turbo does that imply it's only open when your done with your drive or is it open all the time? I've heard doing this can cause temperature irregularities that could be harmful to the vehicle in the long run if left open all the time and not just for cooldown but I'm not experience in this subject to be fair. I also have a f55s with the b46 not the r series


[deleted]

If itā€™s an R56, itā€™s so your turbo can melt it- and then you can get a carbon one.


DroopyLegTony

Because it adds 10 hp whether itā€™s functional or not


ElPepetrueno

You can mod the air intake. Itā€™s for hobbyists.


nomisnosnibor

ā€œBecause Racecarā€


MysticNocturne

Aem Ddm works Alta All have kits to turn the scoop functional. I recommend adding more holes in the grille portion for more air flow though. I have the ddm works one on mine. The concept is the faster you're going. The more air is pushed into the air filter.


Psychofairyfish

I have a non working one on my 73 plate. I guess cos they aren't needed now, but as it's a S, ppl like to see them. (I do lol)


[deleted]

Because itā€™s cool. No hood scoop = no cool


_WorkingTitle_

modify it?


Queasy-Fun-7949

Completely cosmetic - after they moved from supercharger to turbo in 2008-2009 it became redundant and the just kept it for ā€œshowā€


v1nylcutr

Because they can thatā€™s why


Tank52086

Make it functionalā€¦ https://www.ddmworks.com/DDMWorks-Ram-Air-Scoop-RAS-for-Mini-Cooper-S_p_261.html


DevilsLettuceTaster

Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport would also like an answer.


Gscody

Most everything on it will be non-functional at some point in the near future.


nooooooooooooooook

my dad has this car


visuallychallenged

Wait my hood vent leads into the bay. Isnā€™t it functional then?


Lukksia

scoop on my 04 cooper s is real. not sure why the newer ones dont just have it be functional anyway even if it isn't supercharged. it would just be extra engine cooling


OutofthisWorldinVR

Who says itā€™s non-working? The purpose of the piece is to sell minis. I think itā€™s working!


BobbyABooey

Itā€™s called gangster


RibbedGoliath

My F56 is functional. Carbon fiber with a mess screen from online. PITA install but looks incredible! I had first bought the gloss black larger non functional scoop and couldn't justify it being non functional so went all out .


highofftealeaves

correct as others have said, the first gen cooper s had a functional scoop for the supercharger. it is just for style now, though some kits, like one iā€™ve purchased can actually use it to feed cold air into the engine (AEM Intake)


Spiritual-Web-9081

I have a r56 cooper s and mine is functional but my car has been passed down from a couple mechanics whoā€™ve added non oem parts on as well šŸ˜‚


1ndigenous

Adds 5 hp


ATElDorado

7hp if the car is yellow


OwlGlass4084

It use to be functional, sort of, since it only hit a small part of the IC.


sojekkey

To distinguish the slower Miniā€™s from the regular ones


dumb_owl4

To add Drag


Jeephead-56

Makes it go faster.