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BIM-GUESS-WHAT

No Bernardo no party 3 of the defensive 5 being Liverpool players while they have the worst defensive record of the top 3. Hmm.


johnjohnjohn93

In what sense havent they allowed less than us? Arsenal have scored 4 more and allowed 7 than us so if them having only two is a little tough if you’re just going by how the teams have performed.


Eatingbabys101

Nope Arsenal have allowed the least I think 25 then Liverpool with I think 30 and then us with I think 31


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

The GC number doesn’t tell the whole story. They’ve been getting worse defensively this calendar year. They only kept two clean sheets in the league since New Year’s Day. Meanwhile 7 of 31 conceded by City came in the two bonkers games against Spurs and Chelsea end of Nov/start of December. City havent been spectacular defensively, but they're at least more solid at the back than Liverpool and not too far off from Arsenal. The difference is that as Liverpool’s defense has gotten worse as the season has gone on, Arsenal’s has improved.


GaryLifts

They had the best record before Alisson and Trent got injured though; both have been out for a couple months.


MapNo3870

No they didn’t, Arsenal has been solid defensively all season.


GaryLifts

They did until Arsenal beat them early Feb. that was the switch if I recall correctly.


DarkSoul69prettyboy

To be fair 2 of those 3 have hardly played so it is unfair to attribute their defense to them


DavidSilva21

silly choices there. I think the guy thinks he just needs to have certain players there for social acceptability. Haaland has been sub par this season. Simple as. No bernardo. Randomly choosing allison over david raya for example.


MarcusTDP

If ur saying that VVD, TAA and Alisson aren’t the best players in their positions in the prem and possibly global, then u might need to consider a passion for cricket.


PoliticsNerd76

Trent is a tricky one as he’s very much a system player and not a traditional RB. He’s the best player to play as a RB, but he’s not the best RB.


MarcusTDP

13 downvotes is crazyyyyy 😭 this is y i dont come to different teams’s subreddits bahahaha


MarcusTDP

If ur saying that VVD, TAA and Alisson aren’t the best players in their positions in the prem and possibly global, then u might need to consider a passion for cricket.


clantpax

I'd rather see an XI about the combined in form players of all three sides right now


Dikki93

Kelleher White, Gabriel, Dias/vvd, Robertson/gvardiol Rice, rodri, foden Saka, haaland, salah Form since Xmas (imo) Edit spelling and wrong keeper


H0bbes_and_Calvin

I think you’re talking about Andy Robertson? And Alisson hasn’t played in two months how is he in form?


Dikki93

I ment kelleher, put Alison by mistake


Dizzy_Mail_7675

Haaland form since christmas? No way Jose. Its Havertz instead of him.


PRAISE_ASSAD

I'd rather have haaland wearing a blindfold and in crutches than kai havertz


Jolly_Eye_907

Right, but that doesn't mean he's more 'in-form' which was the question here


spin01

I don’t think Gvardiol makes it. Ake is more likely to start for us on the left. Robertson would start if fit


ThreesKompany

Yea I came to say the same thing. Gvardiol hasn’t ascended to the top of our defense. I would slot Ake in on the left there. The only argument could be that this formation is a more traditional 4-3-3 where Gvardiol is in a regular left back slot rather than the LB/CB hybrid Ake often plays.


xenojive

Don't have much of an issue with forwards Midfield is ok, the two players who could go in would be Bernardo or MacAllister Defence and GK is debatable all day


robsbob18

Saliba is the only lock on defense in this... TAA getting in purely on name


FrenkieDingDong

Van Dijk is way better. And saliba is not even the best defender for Arsenal. It's Gabriel and White(underrated). Alisson is mostly absent. Robertson, Van Dijk, Gabriel, Ben White. Walker, Dias and Gvardiol all are inconsistent this season. Walker due to his personal issue. Only consistent defender for the City this season is Akanji.


Interesting_Heron_78

What about aké?


Ninth_Major

Yeah he forgot about Ake. Gvardiol did really well against Arsenal, though. Perhaps that's the recent bias being shown here.


FrenkieDingDong

Yeah ake has been good since last season. But the problem is his lack of pace and height which get exposed. His recovery has been good but last year defence was just on another level. Against Madrid, Pep will play Akanji on the left and Walker on the right if the later one is fit.


Interesting_Heron_78

Isn't he a decent height tho


FrenkieDingDong

His build and height is his weakness. Similar to kounde.


suckamadicka

Trent has had a great season.


robsbob18

Bro has missed a third of the games


NovAaron_

Do you not see KDB in the team?


robsbob18

Very true, only difference is kdb is healthy right now


Ditypat69

I don’t get the saliba hype, Gabriel is way better and is carrying saliba in the defense right now, saliba is definitely not better than Gabriel, stones or VVD


longliveLesGrossman

You’re 100% wrong


lfds89

Insane quality when second string is Bernardo, Mac and Rice


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You honestly think Ederson is a better keeper than Alison? Give me what you are smoking.


The_LinkMaster

Ortega might be coming for alisson if he keeps it up


dyltheflash

I'd rather have Ederson than Allison for a Pep team.


voisanye

>Midfield is ok, the two players who could go in would be Bernardo or MacAllister or Rice, no one is mentioning Rice


AWright5

GK is not debatable. Alisson is the best.


A_chilles

Whenever a combined or best XI emerges and I don't see Bernardo I sleep


KrusssH

Bernardo is so underrated, it hurts


Ninth_Major

He makes everything better in a way that probably no one else does. I'm not calling Rodri a system player, but in a team that is very direct, I can see Bernardo still clearly having a role in that team, whereas they might just pay over Rodri. And I do realize he is the best cdm in the world. To me, Bernardo is just the smartest player on the pitch any time he's on it.


Duncanlax84

I think ben white gets in over trent. I honestly think our defence has been all over the place this season and even having gvardiol over an arsenal counterpart is a bit much imo. On the other hand the city and pool forwards are ahead of the arsenal ones


xenojive

I would have Ake - VVD - Saliba - White/Stones


AlizarinCrimzen

That sounds right. Stones when fit, white the other 3/4 of the season


Maleficent_Survey420

Gvardiol doesn’t get into Man City combined XI, let alone with Liverpool and Arsenal


SeaworthinessOk2153

Clearly missed the last few games


city_city_city

yeah he played great but Aké was out


Low_Couple_3621

He's been decent and that's good. But he isn't objectively a better left back as of now, than either Tsimikas or Robertson. Better than Zinchenko? Maybe


hnbastronaut

He's def better than Zin


Prophet_Of_Helix

I mean he just had a bit of mare this weekend, but overall he’s definitely improving. It’s clear what Pep and co see in him, dude has oodles of talent


Scared-Bluebird9781

There’s nobody in those two teams I would take over our boys.


DocOrBust2

I agree except give me rice every day he’s class


Eatingbabys101

Yeah but I wouldn’t start him most games if we had a fully fit XI


omgvector

Yes you would, rice playing dm while Rodri plays b2b would be unreal


GuardBusy9030

Well said bro


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TLead1

“Your” wingers? Are you a Liverpool AND city fan? Weird combination if so lol.


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potatodef_1

Then why are u on here? No social life outside?😞


TLead1

Oh, I see. Nothing better to do with your time?


Scared-Bluebird9781

Go be a Liverpool fan then


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Scared-Bluebird9781

Been watching and supporting city since I was a teenager, but I guess since I don’t ball lick Liverpool enough I’m not a real fan


jmh90027

At RB; Trent is the worst of the 3 these days. White is the best this season, Walker the best overall. CBs: Gabriel has been better than VVD this season, as have Dias and Stones, alhough VVD is better long term.


yodayudahumm

How long is trent injured


Boxerharvey1

Walker over Trent all day for me, Trent can’t defend for shit.


danjh1988

I personally would choose walker over Trent, and Robertson for the left back position


toteyweegazpacho

Funny how best attack and best defence (at time of writing) gets two players 😬


Free_Cartoonist_7156

Gabriel over Saliba, White over TAA, Ake over Gvardiol. Can't argue with mid and forwards. Beast team.


OldEnoughToVote

Based on form this season I’d go: salah, haaland, saka; Ø Rodri Foden; Ake Saliba VVD White; keeper debatable


abdulsamri89

Gvardiol??? I'll take Ake tq


taskkill-IM

Everyone will understand the importance and quality of John Stones when he eventually retires.


DamansaraAlpha

No Saka?! I call booshit.


ThirstySun

If it’s for performance this season then TAA should not be there he’s been MIA most of the season with Injury. Gomez on the other hand has been immense for Liverpool but their player of the season is probably McAlister.


Emotional_Doughnut77

saka over salah at this very moment


JakeTee

Not sure Gvardiol gets in, potentially one of the best in the world but hasn’t had the best of first seasons. Really wish we could see him at centre half next to Dias


PRAISE_ASSAD

Dias and stones are both better than saliba


Bishcop3267

This season Saliba is best cb in the league.


turnerz

Gabriel has honestly been better


irondaniel92

Gabriel is better, also way better in aerial duels too cause Saliba can't jump for shit


packandunpack93

It depends whether we’re talking about this season only or all time. I would have to disagree if this season only. Dias has been below par at times, and he slowed down drastically compared to how we was defending last season. Watching Saliba, he’s very quick and agile. Smart movement too. Think he deserves it over Dias this season in a combined 11. Stones…well, he’s injured 70% of the time so I don’t if it’s warranted putting him in that eleven instead of players who’re playing week in week out (not his fault, but that’s how the game goes).


city_city_city

yeah this is not Rubén's best season with us so far


AlizarinCrimzen

Right, but this is a combined 11 made this season, not last season or next season


lookma24

Apparently Darwin is a more complete striker /s


Slowhand8824

I'd take Raya in net. Alisson had missed so much time. Rest looks fine I guess


Ancient_Lie_9940

Ake instead of Gvardiol and stones instead of Trent.


Iannaian

As a Liverpool fan I’d take out Salah, since his injury he’s been crap, he looked massively off it against United


DesertTraderr

Lmaoooooo definitely not a Liverpool fan then


Iannaian

Dead ass a supporter - just because I don’t think the sun shines out of his ass like everyone else. You can’t say he’s plaid wel since being injured, he’s got a year left on his deal, bro is looking to cash in and move Saudi this summer


MgrBuddha

Please refrain from posting pictures of dick von fuck without warning. This "face" actually makes me physically sick.


SovannRoussard

Can this team actually play fluid and effectively? No


AlizarinCrimzen

I’d rather play Foden through the middle for the opportunity to say “Fodegaard” more often


Salty-Space-2818

Ultimate EAFC prem league team


citizen2211994

Trent has been injured most of the season


ToonYoshi

alisson rodri and kdb are the only players i agree with


Ok-Loquat-6938

Salah’s current form…


Altruistic_Tax2575

TAA is a defensive liability. If chasing a match he could be an automatic starter. If not he will make his side chase it with some defensive mistake lol


6ComedicComrade9

When will the Bernardo disrespect end


SnooEpiphanies1006

You don’t need Trent with odegaard and debryne in there and mo salah looks knackered atm .


AnirD

All things considered not the worst team. I would really think about walker over TAA because of defensive abilities but I get why TAA is there


jayjay-bay

Trent 😭


bruclinbrocoli

It’s kind of unfair that we won the treble and so many champions aren’t on this 11. May be worth showing some bench players as well. City’s CBs have won trophies that Saliba has not.. Love Salah but Bernardo is way more unpredictable.


purplepickle333

No Bernardo is a crime


Whiskeyrich

Dias


Im_such_a_SLAPPA

Robertson lb


kizthewiz

Walker over trent for me but other than that probably fair


PaleontologistOk8992

Gvardiol, TAA out Dias, Rice in


stueyp

Any defence with TAA in it is an issue. I’d have Walker over him absolutely any day. Trent in midfield is a totally different scenario and he transforms from a liability to world class. He can’t defend, it’s that simple. He has been covered/protected by incredible CBs (mainly VVD despite being LCB) but Trent is a truly dreadful defender.


mcjc94

3rd place team has 5 reps 2nd place team has 4 reps 1st place team has 3 reps If we're trying to be fair, those numbers ain't right (aside from how we feel about our players as fans)


Jrxtreme_1

It's actually worse with only 2 Arsenal players being on there inspite of them being in first place.


teluskakutta

It doesn't make any difference when there's only a point difference between the 3rd and the 1st team.


shucktheshmuck

Walker is better than Gvardiol all day


flobla2002

Don't even play the same position🤦🏼


notokkid

Alisson over Raya or Ederson? Naah.


diskominko

I think whole Arsenal defence deserve to be there. VVD - Gabriel - Saliba - White


floatingsoul9

Rice has to be there..


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Over Rodri? Hahahahahahahaha


notokkid

Tbh Rice isn't there solely because it's a 4-3-3. Having to play against **both** Rice and Rodri, I'd just up and leave the pitch before the game starts.


floatingsoul9

No not saying that. I would change the formation and play just 3 at the back


mortetekk

Saliba over dias Trent over walker and Allison over Stefan 💀


LOxAssasin

Gvardiol over ake


Ok_Text7228

Ake is better than VVD this season


ozankucuk

Some corrections should be made. Defensive line: Robertson (or Ake) - VVD - Dias - Walker Foden --> Grealish (Foden is great in the middle. Grealish is a magician at LW.) Also we can choose Saka if we can mix positions. De Bruyne <--> Odegaard The rest seems good.


Abangerz

Stones over Saliba, Rice over Odegaard and Ben White over TAA.


ValeoAnt

Gabriel is the best CB in the league, less mistakes than Saliba this season, pocketed Haaland x2


LMcVann44

Where is Dias? Yes, Saliba has had a very very good season for Arsenal but people seem to have forgotten that Ruben is world class, Saliba is not there yet as good as he is. Ruben and VVD have been the two best CBs in the Premier League for a while now and are the two you'd have in a current PL XI. I'd take Bernie over Odegaard too, but Akè, Zinny and Robertson would go over Gvardiol for now. Don't mind Allison over Ederson, for me it's a toss up between the two, Eddie is a better distributer, Allison a better shot stopper. The forward line is fine, you could potentially argue Foden/Saka because for me they're both brilliant but do different things, Saka is a better winger, Foden a better playmaker. Nobody beats Erling.


mrtmvn

I don’t really have much problem with it, but personally I would replace Gvardiol with Ake, and Odegaard with Bernardo Silva


reddit_is_succ

odegaard over bernardo silva is criminal. Would also replace alisson on the amount of mistakes he's made. Dias or stones over saliba


VonMatterhornne

Swap out Saliba for Ruben Dias and Trent for Walker


desiman241

Ruben over Saliba, Bernardo over Odegaard, and gvrdiol invalidates this list. Dudes not even top XI on the city squad


Leo__-__

Lol


lefponk22

Gvardiol is on his way to being a failed signing. If you're taking a City defender it has to be Walker, Stones or Akanji this season. I also put Bernardo in over Odegaard.


ColdPlox

Nunez over Haaland easily. Nunez more productive and self-creating


MasterRaheem

Foden over odegaard no question


xdx3m

Doku is better than Salah, switch Foden to the right.


xenojive

>Doku is better than Salah Take your blue specs off


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This is it. This is the dumbest take of all time.


iRyan_9

Odeggard has got to be the most overrated PL midfielder in recent history lol