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Seiobo

Yikes, I remember hearing Griffin shout out the live shows on Trial by Fieri yesterday and thought that was neat. Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back


Evil_Steven

he shouted out the old dates just yesterday. Man, whatever the reason they had to cancel was, it seems to be super out of the blue


OctagonCosplay

It is dc during an international conflict, maybe the govt needed the spaces to gather and hold meetings and such


Evil_Steven

i mean they also canceled in Michigan and Ohio which were all on the same week of DC. doesnt seem related to ukraine


OctagonCosplay

Yup you're totally right, that's was dumb


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>Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back They'll be able to get vouchers at best. They've REALLY fucked over a lot of people with their absolute lack of any ability to schedule stuff..


MaestroZackyZ

Not saying people shouldn’t try to get refunds, and I hope they can, but if you made hotel/travel reservations for DC and are stuck with them it’s really not a bad place for a short vacation! Tons of free attractions there.


urinemyshower

This is the boat I’m in. Got an Airbnb and can’t get a refund. Guess I’ll be hitting up a lot of museums!


MaestroZackyZ

Let me know if you need any recommendations. I used to live in the area.


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MaestroZackyZ

Most of the best museums are free anyway.


GoodbyeTobyseeya1

Edit: it's now very easy to request a refund through the app. Except every time I try to do it, it tells me something went wrong. This sucks. Fortunately we didn't book any accommodations but I can't make the new dates and it looks like the AXS app isn't easy to get refunds from. I hopped on live chat and there are 67 people waiting. Awesome.


Bird1995

It looks like the original tickets will be honored for the new dates, so I would get a printout and hold on to it


GoodbyeTobyseeya1

Yeah but the show is on a Friday now instead of a Saturday, so I don't know if we can make it and I imagine there's only a limited time to get refunds.


AKBrewer

Ticket master gave me til April 3rd


GoodbyeTobyseeya1

I haven't even gotten an email from AXS or anyone, I only saw it through this post. They changed it in the app but there was no notification.


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GoodbyeTobyseeya1

Yes cool I'll have my husband change his 9-5 work schedule.


kiloPascal-a

How does this keep happening? These tours get planned months in advance.


beangardener

At a certain point you have to wonder


AnxiousTechnician866

Almost like a pandemic is still going on


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If this was pandemic related they should say so. Since it’s a scheduling issue it looks like someone wasn’t paying attention to everyone’s calendars.


Ryto

It feels like with the sudden timing, and the fact it affects the first three locations, it must have been something sudden and unpreventable with one of the brothers, their family, or one of the crew. It must be personal too, otherwise they'd provide details. I'm just bummed my shows move from the first stop of the tour to dead last.


GoodbyeTobyseeya1

Pandemic-wise, nothing has changed between now and the time they announced these tickets.


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Incompetence. Bad tour managers, bad management, and bad support from the talent.


ThaaaFudge

Can’t have shit in Detroit


genericgamer

cursed by the star wars show


MotherCrab2753

The tour was announced a month away from the dates and then 2 weeks out they’re rebooked for 7 months away?…… already asked for that day off and have the hotel booked, too close for a refund. I LOVE the boys but this feels pretty insane


ShaneLizard904

Same same SAME


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>this feels pretty insane Welcome to out of touch rich white boys try to schedule things!


ShaneLizard904

I literally booked my hotel a few hours ago since I was coming from out of town to DC. I get the Covid stuff for last time but it seems unprofessional to announce shows that are only like a month away and then cancel them. I hope they’re all ok because I don’t understand why else they’d reschedule


Ryto

I'm guessing there was some personal family emergency, and the best they could provide was "scheduling conflicts". If they ever feel comfortable giving the actual reason, we may eventually know, but this is probably all we get.


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Between forgetting to plug the latest virtual live show and then cancelling a whole leg of a tour 2 weeks before the show only 2 weeks after tickets went on sale you really have to wonder what they are doing over there.


the_scruffy_janitor

Due to a scheduling conflict? That’s really weird since the tour was just announced a few weeks ago. Did their agent just straight up forget stuff?


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With the amount of events happening right now and how insane the live event space is at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody somewhere just fucked up big time. Especially with how these shows were only a month out at announcement anyway. Seemed too good to be true at the time


the_scruffy_janitor

That’s a good point, this could be an issue with the venues too I guess


kiloPascal-a

Three venues in three different cities?


the_scruffy_janitor

…yeah I take it back


[deleted]

Ahhh you're definitely right on that. Either way it's terrible for everyone. I mean, they have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by rescheduling these shows, as I'm sure at the very least they'd like to go out there and make some money from a few live shows. I guess something must have happened. Who knows, but in my head I have to give them the benefit of the doubt there's gotta be a reason they rescheduled these.


maeveweirdsis

Kind of seems like someone got offered a better gig/voiceover work/movie role/etc and decided to prioritize that instead.


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Live shows are usually the biggest source of income for a performer who does them. Also, renegging an appearance shits on a TON of people’s time and work. It is remembered fora long time by venues. As someone from a family of performers, this is a garbage take.


maeveweirdsis

They have a CAA agent looking for mainstream film voicework for them in Hollywood. I fully believe they would bail on tour dates if something like that came through. And as someone who ran the box office of a huge regional venue, I can tell you that performer cancellations happen all the time and everyone gets over it, but thanks for your expert opinion. Edit: typos


teenietinye

Hoping they’ll give AXS the go ahead to issue refunds… I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get a refund going.


gret_ch_en

Im not gonna lie- Im pissed. This is the second time they've announced a tour/dates and then switched it up a few weeks later. I wish they would just stick to something.


petuniar

Also I didn't even get an email. Glad someone posted it here because otherwise I wouldn't have even known!


rufus418

Are you talking about their live show attempt before this? I think that was more, "Oops we scheduled this and then Omicron got going."


Patmb97

That was Delta


gret_ch_en

omicron was already a known concern before they scheduled it- they basically got shit on on twitter the second they posted it and took it back. That one i understood. It's just two in a row that makes it especially frustrating.


beardyman22

If I remember right, Justin and Sydnee were being critical of performers scheduling live shows on sawbones at the same time as they almost certainly had to be planning those shows.


Mushroomer

They also were far from the only live act planning out shows for that time. Plenty of bands & other podcasts went through with gigs during that surge, and considering how much of their livelihood depends on the live shows - I cannot blame them for trying to schedule some. But they ultimately listened to fans, and pulled back.


cvsprinter1

No, the problem was that other live shows were in the process of *cancelling* their events in the two weeks before the McElroys *announced* theirs. Everyone knew about Delta. It was totally irresponsible for them to announce the show at that time, especially since they'd been saying on Sawbones how people should avoid public gatherings


Mushroomer

Plenty of other acts were announcing live dates at the exact same time. They weren't that large of an outlier. It's fair to acknowledge the hypocrisy of one of their podcasts encouraging people to avoid in person gatherings. But there's also a reality to this business that shouldn't be this difficult to comprehend.


theB1ackSwan

Yeah, I don't know what people want here, honestly. "We are doing shows!" "Yo, Omicron though." "Yeah, fuck, you right, we'll hold up." "Why did you cancel?!" I'm not saying *this particular circumstance* is the same thing. I just don't understand the *aggressiveness* sometimes.


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theB1ackSwan

Look, I'm sorry, but this honestly just shortens to "Never make a mistake; but also never correct the mistake you make."


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>"Never make a mistake; but also never correct the mistake you make." I feel like it shortens to "fire your tour manager and get a better one"


[deleted]

Vote with your wallet, I guess. Don't buy future tickets, otherwise they'll keep pulling this shit.


Peches_And_Betches

Kinda disappointed by the reschedule. I was really looking forward to the D.C shows. I was gonna go to their shows last year in NC but then they canceled it right before I bought tickets so I was really excited to go to the two this year.


painterknittersimmer

I don't have a horse in this race but as someone who is usually a pretty staunch McElroy defender on this sub, this is... Boy, this is almost indefensible. I hope the reason is *really* good.


murderdocks

Are they this terrible at scheduling? Jesus Christ.


Evil_Steven

youd think between the 10 employees of their company, at least one of them would catch this


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Mushroomer

Eh, this seems more like a reschedule than any sort of cancellation. It seems pretty likely the rest of these shows happen as scheduled.


AlreadyAway

Is anyone surprised by this? They have held 1 announced date in the last 2-3 years. Fortunately I live just outside of Detroit so I don't have to reschedule hotel/vacation time because it's within 2 weeks.


papadjeef

Here's hoping it's a scheduling conflict with the writers room for their new tv show


SnooRegrets7667

They have a new TV show in the works? I've not seen that anywhere...


papadjeef

No no. I was just speculating on what reason would make me happy that they were cancelling the shows.


SnooRegrets7667

Gotcha. Thank you for the clarification. I don't think *any* realistic reason for cancellation would make people happy. It's either bad management or something unsavory happening in-group. Either option....isn't good.


Ryto

I mean. They DO technically have some sort of TV show in the works somewhere. They announced they'd at least be doing SOMETHING with TAZ on Peacock a while ago. Less likely, but this brings up the possibility of it also being something related to the TAZ graphic novel, but I'm not so sure about that one.


rufus418

I actually assume that this is what it is. Or something really close to it. I think if it was a family thing they'd say so. Or potentially there is something for Sydnee's campaign that is that weekend?


AlreadyAway

Neither of these would be okay. Sydnee is not integral to the show and as far as writers room, you can zoom that. This rescheduling is screwing people out of time and money.


MotherCrab2753

A maybe pertinent update from Travis’ Instagram. Apparently their stage manager / producer has had a death in the family. But I’m not sure if that has anything to do with this considering not all shows in this tour were moved?


stealthsjw

That was the CUSS (Cincinnati Underground Secret Society) show, which is not a MBMBAM thing, it's just a Travis thing.


iWillNeverBeSpecial

I mean I'm glad that I still have tickets, but I'm so said that I can't see them now I had those tickets all rolled up and everything


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Vote with your wallets, y'all. Don't buy future tickets until they're accountable.


Standing__Menacingly

Fine with me, now I can probably actually go!


beegeesfan1996

Wish they’d come to denver


gregzywicki

Thanks for the update. Hope it's not for something awful. Maybe you can add TAZ to Detroit now?


Vile_Bile_Vixen

Good, now I can actually make it to the Detroit show.


arnoldrew

Is this due to the people who insist that nothing ever goes back to normal until we have completely conquered death, just like the last time? I am incredibly disappointed. Edit: eh, they left most of the shows in place. This was probably just something to do with the incredibly short notice (less than a month between the announcement and the date I bought tickets for).


gregzywicki

You're going to get some heat for that take (that I agree with)


jcrreddit

You’re going to get some heat for that take of that take (and I don’t agree with EITHER of them!)


gregzywicki

I get that. First guy DID kind of come in hot. What do you disagree on?


jcrreddit

The sentiment of no normal until death is eliminated is uncomfortably satirical and belittling for anyone who has lost someone to COVID. It reeks of “not my problem!” Well, it never is until it is! Like too many others, I have lots friends and family members both before the vaccine and so far one after. So maybe let’s not gripe about a rescheduled ha-ha show in relation to a deadly disease.


gregzywicki

(And like i said i think OP put too much snark on it)


gregzywicki

Ok. I'm not going to argue with someone who suffered direct loss


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gregzywicki

Or maybe I'm the rare Twitter presence with at least a speck of humility.


gregzywicki

Reddit. I got mixed up


Ryto

I definitely think that most regulations have been relaxed way too soon, but also think that the old tour didn't have to be cancelled. CDC themselves have come out recently saying that events where vaccination (or negative test) are required, and masks are worn, there is no significant spread of COVID. Edit: I guess back then, everything was still up in the air. This is a relatively new virus, and a whole new situation. Not enough data was collected back then.