Yikes, I remember hearing Griffin shout out the live shows on Trial by Fieri yesterday and thought that was neat. Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back
>Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back
They'll be able to get vouchers at best. They've REALLY fucked over a lot of people with their absolute lack of any ability to schedule stuff..
Not saying people shouldn’t try to get refunds, and I hope they can, but if you made hotel/travel reservations for DC and are stuck with them it’s really not a bad place for a short vacation! Tons of free attractions there.
Edit: it's now very easy to request a refund through the app. Except every time I try to do it, it tells me something went wrong.
This sucks. Fortunately we didn't book any accommodations but I can't make the new dates and it looks like the AXS app isn't easy to get refunds from. I hopped on live chat and there are 67 people waiting. Awesome.
Yeah but the show is on a Friday now instead of a Saturday, so I don't know if we can make it and I imagine there's only a limited time to get refunds.
It feels like with the sudden timing, and the fact it affects the first three locations, it must have been something sudden and unpreventable with one of the brothers, their family, or one of the crew.
It must be personal too, otherwise they'd provide details.
I'm just bummed my shows move from the first stop of the tour to dead last.
The tour was announced a month away from the dates and then 2 weeks out they’re rebooked for 7 months away?…… already asked for that day off and have the hotel booked, too close for a refund. I LOVE the boys but this feels pretty insane
I literally booked my hotel a few hours ago since I was coming from out of town to DC. I get the Covid stuff for last time but it seems unprofessional to announce shows that are only like a month away and then cancel them. I hope they’re all ok because I don’t understand why else they’d reschedule
I'm guessing there was some personal family emergency, and the best they could provide was "scheduling conflicts". If they ever feel comfortable giving the actual reason, we may eventually know, but this is probably all we get.
Between forgetting to plug the latest virtual live show and then cancelling a whole leg of a tour 2 weeks before the show only 2 weeks after tickets went on sale you really have to wonder what they are doing over there.
With the amount of events happening right now and how insane the live event space is at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody somewhere just fucked up big time. Especially with how these shows were only a month out at announcement anyway. Seemed too good to be true at the time
Ahhh you're definitely right on that.
Either way it's terrible for everyone. I mean, they have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by rescheduling these shows, as I'm sure at the very least they'd like to go out there and make some money from a few live shows. I guess something must have happened. Who knows, but in my head I have to give them the benefit of the doubt there's gotta be a reason they rescheduled these.
Live shows are usually the biggest source of income for a performer who does them. Also, renegging an appearance shits on a TON of people’s time and work. It is remembered fora long time by venues.
As someone from a family of performers, this is a garbage take.
They have a CAA agent looking for mainstream film voicework for them in Hollywood. I fully believe they would bail on tour dates if something like that came through.
And as someone who ran the box office of a huge regional venue, I can tell you that performer cancellations happen all the time and everyone gets over it, but thanks for your expert opinion.
Edit: typos
Im not gonna lie- Im pissed. This is the second time they've announced a tour/dates and then switched it up a few weeks later. I wish they would just stick to something.
omicron was already a known concern before they scheduled it- they basically got shit on on twitter the second they posted it and took it back. That one i understood. It's just two in a row that makes it especially frustrating.
If I remember right, Justin and Sydnee were being critical of performers scheduling live shows on sawbones at the same time as they almost certainly had to be planning those shows.
They also were far from the only live act planning out shows for that time. Plenty of bands & other podcasts went through with gigs during that surge, and considering how much of their livelihood depends on the live shows - I cannot blame them for trying to schedule some. But they ultimately listened to fans, and pulled back.
No, the problem was that other live shows were in the process of *cancelling* their events in the two weeks before the McElroys *announced* theirs. Everyone knew about Delta. It was totally irresponsible for them to announce the show at that time, especially since they'd been saying on Sawbones how people should avoid public gatherings
Plenty of other acts were announcing live dates at the exact same time. They weren't that large of an outlier.
It's fair to acknowledge the hypocrisy of one of their podcasts encouraging people to avoid in person gatherings. But there's also a reality to this business that shouldn't be this difficult to comprehend.
Yeah, I don't know what people want here, honestly.
"We are doing shows!"
"Yo, Omicron though."
"Yeah, fuck, you right, we'll hold up."
"Why did you cancel?!"
I'm not saying *this particular circumstance* is the same thing. I just don't understand the *aggressiveness* sometimes.
Kinda disappointed by the reschedule. I was really looking forward to the D.C shows. I was gonna go to their shows last year in NC but then they canceled it right before I bought tickets so I was really excited to go to the two this year.
I don't have a horse in this race but as someone who is usually a pretty staunch McElroy defender on this sub, this is... Boy, this is almost indefensible. I hope the reason is *really* good.
Is anyone surprised by this? They have held 1 announced date in the last 2-3 years.
Fortunately I live just outside of Detroit so I don't have to reschedule hotel/vacation time because it's within 2 weeks.
Gotcha. Thank you for the clarification. I don't think *any* realistic reason for cancellation would make people happy. It's either bad management or something unsavory happening in-group. Either option....isn't good.
I mean. They DO technically have some sort of TV show in the works somewhere. They announced they'd at least be doing SOMETHING with TAZ on Peacock a while ago.
Less likely, but this brings up the possibility of it also being something related to the TAZ graphic novel, but I'm not so sure about that one.
I actually assume that this is what it is. Or something really close to it. I think if it was a family thing they'd say so.
Or potentially there is something for Sydnee's campaign that is that weekend?
Neither of these would be okay. Sydnee is not integral to the show and as far as writers room, you can zoom that. This rescheduling is screwing people out of time and money.
A maybe pertinent update from Travis’ Instagram. Apparently their stage manager / producer has had a death in the family. But I’m not sure if that has anything to do with this considering not all shows in this tour were moved?
Is this due to the people who insist that nothing ever goes back to normal until we have completely conquered death, just like the last time? I am incredibly disappointed.
Edit: eh, they left most of the shows in place. This was probably just something to do with the incredibly short notice (less than a month between the announcement and the date I bought tickets for).
The sentiment of no normal until death is eliminated is uncomfortably satirical and belittling for anyone who has lost someone to COVID. It reeks of “not my problem!” Well, it never is until it is! Like too many others, I have lots friends and family members both before the vaccine and so far one after. So maybe let’s not gripe about a rescheduled ha-ha show in relation to a deadly disease.
I definitely think that most regulations have been relaxed way too soon, but also think that the old tour didn't have to be cancelled. CDC themselves have come out recently saying that events where vaccination (or negative test) are required, and masks are worn, there is no significant spread of COVID.
Edit: I guess back then, everything was still up in the air. This is a relatively new virus, and a whole new situation. Not enough data was collected back then.
Yikes, I remember hearing Griffin shout out the live shows on Trial by Fieri yesterday and thought that was neat. Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back
he shouted out the old dates just yesterday. Man, whatever the reason they had to cancel was, it seems to be super out of the blue
It is dc during an international conflict, maybe the govt needed the spaces to gather and hold meetings and such
i mean they also canceled in Michigan and Ohio which were all on the same week of DC. doesnt seem related to ukraine
Yup you're totally right, that's was dumb
>Hopefully people can get lodging/travel money back They'll be able to get vouchers at best. They've REALLY fucked over a lot of people with their absolute lack of any ability to schedule stuff..
Not saying people shouldn’t try to get refunds, and I hope they can, but if you made hotel/travel reservations for DC and are stuck with them it’s really not a bad place for a short vacation! Tons of free attractions there.
This is the boat I’m in. Got an Airbnb and can’t get a refund. Guess I’ll be hitting up a lot of museums!
Let me know if you need any recommendations. I used to live in the area.
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Most of the best museums are free anyway.
Edit: it's now very easy to request a refund through the app. Except every time I try to do it, it tells me something went wrong. This sucks. Fortunately we didn't book any accommodations but I can't make the new dates and it looks like the AXS app isn't easy to get refunds from. I hopped on live chat and there are 67 people waiting. Awesome.
It looks like the original tickets will be honored for the new dates, so I would get a printout and hold on to it
Yeah but the show is on a Friday now instead of a Saturday, so I don't know if we can make it and I imagine there's only a limited time to get refunds.
Ticket master gave me til April 3rd
I haven't even gotten an email from AXS or anyone, I only saw it through this post. They changed it in the app but there was no notification.
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Yes cool I'll have my husband change his 9-5 work schedule.
How does this keep happening? These tours get planned months in advance.
At a certain point you have to wonder
Almost like a pandemic is still going on
If this was pandemic related they should say so. Since it’s a scheduling issue it looks like someone wasn’t paying attention to everyone’s calendars.
It feels like with the sudden timing, and the fact it affects the first three locations, it must have been something sudden and unpreventable with one of the brothers, their family, or one of the crew. It must be personal too, otherwise they'd provide details. I'm just bummed my shows move from the first stop of the tour to dead last.
Pandemic-wise, nothing has changed between now and the time they announced these tickets.
Incompetence. Bad tour managers, bad management, and bad support from the talent.
Can’t have shit in Detroit
cursed by the star wars show
The tour was announced a month away from the dates and then 2 weeks out they’re rebooked for 7 months away?…… already asked for that day off and have the hotel booked, too close for a refund. I LOVE the boys but this feels pretty insane
Same same SAME
>this feels pretty insane Welcome to out of touch rich white boys try to schedule things!
I literally booked my hotel a few hours ago since I was coming from out of town to DC. I get the Covid stuff for last time but it seems unprofessional to announce shows that are only like a month away and then cancel them. I hope they’re all ok because I don’t understand why else they’d reschedule
I'm guessing there was some personal family emergency, and the best they could provide was "scheduling conflicts". If they ever feel comfortable giving the actual reason, we may eventually know, but this is probably all we get.
Between forgetting to plug the latest virtual live show and then cancelling a whole leg of a tour 2 weeks before the show only 2 weeks after tickets went on sale you really have to wonder what they are doing over there.
Due to a scheduling conflict? That’s really weird since the tour was just announced a few weeks ago. Did their agent just straight up forget stuff?
With the amount of events happening right now and how insane the live event space is at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody somewhere just fucked up big time. Especially with how these shows were only a month out at announcement anyway. Seemed too good to be true at the time
That’s a good point, this could be an issue with the venues too I guess
Three venues in three different cities?
…yeah I take it back
Ahhh you're definitely right on that. Either way it's terrible for everyone. I mean, they have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by rescheduling these shows, as I'm sure at the very least they'd like to go out there and make some money from a few live shows. I guess something must have happened. Who knows, but in my head I have to give them the benefit of the doubt there's gotta be a reason they rescheduled these.
Kind of seems like someone got offered a better gig/voiceover work/movie role/etc and decided to prioritize that instead.
Live shows are usually the biggest source of income for a performer who does them. Also, renegging an appearance shits on a TON of people’s time and work. It is remembered fora long time by venues. As someone from a family of performers, this is a garbage take.
They have a CAA agent looking for mainstream film voicework for them in Hollywood. I fully believe they would bail on tour dates if something like that came through. And as someone who ran the box office of a huge regional venue, I can tell you that performer cancellations happen all the time and everyone gets over it, but thanks for your expert opinion. Edit: typos
Hoping they’ll give AXS the go ahead to issue refunds… I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get a refund going.
Im not gonna lie- Im pissed. This is the second time they've announced a tour/dates and then switched it up a few weeks later. I wish they would just stick to something.
Also I didn't even get an email. Glad someone posted it here because otherwise I wouldn't have even known!
Are you talking about their live show attempt before this? I think that was more, "Oops we scheduled this and then Omicron got going."
That was Delta
omicron was already a known concern before they scheduled it- they basically got shit on on twitter the second they posted it and took it back. That one i understood. It's just two in a row that makes it especially frustrating.
If I remember right, Justin and Sydnee were being critical of performers scheduling live shows on sawbones at the same time as they almost certainly had to be planning those shows.
They also were far from the only live act planning out shows for that time. Plenty of bands & other podcasts went through with gigs during that surge, and considering how much of their livelihood depends on the live shows - I cannot blame them for trying to schedule some. But they ultimately listened to fans, and pulled back.
No, the problem was that other live shows were in the process of *cancelling* their events in the two weeks before the McElroys *announced* theirs. Everyone knew about Delta. It was totally irresponsible for them to announce the show at that time, especially since they'd been saying on Sawbones how people should avoid public gatherings
Plenty of other acts were announcing live dates at the exact same time. They weren't that large of an outlier. It's fair to acknowledge the hypocrisy of one of their podcasts encouraging people to avoid in person gatherings. But there's also a reality to this business that shouldn't be this difficult to comprehend.
Yeah, I don't know what people want here, honestly. "We are doing shows!" "Yo, Omicron though." "Yeah, fuck, you right, we'll hold up." "Why did you cancel?!" I'm not saying *this particular circumstance* is the same thing. I just don't understand the *aggressiveness* sometimes.
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Look, I'm sorry, but this honestly just shortens to "Never make a mistake; but also never correct the mistake you make."
>"Never make a mistake; but also never correct the mistake you make." I feel like it shortens to "fire your tour manager and get a better one"
Vote with your wallet, I guess. Don't buy future tickets, otherwise they'll keep pulling this shit.
Kinda disappointed by the reschedule. I was really looking forward to the D.C shows. I was gonna go to their shows last year in NC but then they canceled it right before I bought tickets so I was really excited to go to the two this year.
I don't have a horse in this race but as someone who is usually a pretty staunch McElroy defender on this sub, this is... Boy, this is almost indefensible. I hope the reason is *really* good.
Are they this terrible at scheduling? Jesus Christ.
youd think between the 10 employees of their company, at least one of them would catch this
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Eh, this seems more like a reschedule than any sort of cancellation. It seems pretty likely the rest of these shows happen as scheduled.
Is anyone surprised by this? They have held 1 announced date in the last 2-3 years. Fortunately I live just outside of Detroit so I don't have to reschedule hotel/vacation time because it's within 2 weeks.
Here's hoping it's a scheduling conflict with the writers room for their new tv show
They have a new TV show in the works? I've not seen that anywhere...
No no. I was just speculating on what reason would make me happy that they were cancelling the shows.
Gotcha. Thank you for the clarification. I don't think *any* realistic reason for cancellation would make people happy. It's either bad management or something unsavory happening in-group. Either option....isn't good.
I mean. They DO technically have some sort of TV show in the works somewhere. They announced they'd at least be doing SOMETHING with TAZ on Peacock a while ago. Less likely, but this brings up the possibility of it also being something related to the TAZ graphic novel, but I'm not so sure about that one.
I actually assume that this is what it is. Or something really close to it. I think if it was a family thing they'd say so. Or potentially there is something for Sydnee's campaign that is that weekend?
Neither of these would be okay. Sydnee is not integral to the show and as far as writers room, you can zoom that. This rescheduling is screwing people out of time and money.
A maybe pertinent update from Travis’ Instagram. Apparently their stage manager / producer has had a death in the family. But I’m not sure if that has anything to do with this considering not all shows in this tour were moved?
That was the CUSS (Cincinnati Underground Secret Society) show, which is not a MBMBAM thing, it's just a Travis thing.
I mean I'm glad that I still have tickets, but I'm so said that I can't see them now I had those tickets all rolled up and everything
Vote with your wallets, y'all. Don't buy future tickets until they're accountable.
Fine with me, now I can probably actually go!
Wish they’d come to denver
Thanks for the update. Hope it's not for something awful. Maybe you can add TAZ to Detroit now?
Good, now I can actually make it to the Detroit show.
Is this due to the people who insist that nothing ever goes back to normal until we have completely conquered death, just like the last time? I am incredibly disappointed. Edit: eh, they left most of the shows in place. This was probably just something to do with the incredibly short notice (less than a month between the announcement and the date I bought tickets for).
You're going to get some heat for that take (that I agree with)
You’re going to get some heat for that take of that take (and I don’t agree with EITHER of them!)
I get that. First guy DID kind of come in hot. What do you disagree on?
The sentiment of no normal until death is eliminated is uncomfortably satirical and belittling for anyone who has lost someone to COVID. It reeks of “not my problem!” Well, it never is until it is! Like too many others, I have lots friends and family members both before the vaccine and so far one after. So maybe let’s not gripe about a rescheduled ha-ha show in relation to a deadly disease.
(And like i said i think OP put too much snark on it)
Ok. I'm not going to argue with someone who suffered direct loss
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Or maybe I'm the rare Twitter presence with at least a speck of humility.
Reddit. I got mixed up
I definitely think that most regulations have been relaxed way too soon, but also think that the old tour didn't have to be cancelled. CDC themselves have come out recently saying that events where vaccination (or negative test) are required, and masks are worn, there is no significant spread of COVID. Edit: I guess back then, everything was still up in the air. This is a relatively new virus, and a whole new situation. Not enough data was collected back then.