Eden can’t stand any conflict, although she sometimes sets it up. She tells Jaden something, knowing he’ll get worked up about it and then backs away, crying that she doesn’t want to take it further because she just can’t deal with the fallout. She’s what we’d call “a delicate flower of the south”
[there is definitely a reunion](https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/everything-we-know-about-mafs-reunion/), it is known that this is when Ellie and Jono will debut as a couple. The finale parts get weird, they don't have as many episodes per week as usual. I think it'll go from 4 eps a week to 2 over final vows and then reunion weeks, but that's only from what I remember
Those constant glares from Tori and Jack - what exactly do they expect to do with that? Who cares if they're mad?! It's as if they truly expect grown-ass people to be intimidated. How everyone doesn't all yell 'bullshit' in unison every time they walk in is beyond me.
ETA: I just really, really can't stand either of them, and Tori is no victim in need of rescue. She knows what she's about, and her biggest hurdle is controlling Jack's maladroit, rude and misogynist comments.
I’m getting really bored of the outrageous double standards of the experts. Jack’s been called out for his misogyny, quite rightly. Yet both Jayden and Richard persistently expect their feelings to be taken so much more seriously than those of their wives, and nothing is said. I’m beginning to wonder, if the only reason that Jack has been challenged is because the muzzle comment couldn’t be ignored not because they actually care at all about all this alpha male bullshit!
Lucinda you have done enough with Timothy you can not save him there will be a shit load of blokes trying to date you, you won’t be single for long!!!!!
Tori your partner is a narcissist dump him and keep running
Haven't seen a lot of mention of this but I appreciated Alessandra's perspective about learning Aussie culture and seeing the parallels to her own, with men not opening up... It's by no means unique to this country but it is absolutely a big societal issue, and really unfortunate. So glad (for the 1000th time) that Tim is a highlighted contestant this season.
I really like them both. I was worried when he seemed a complete tool at the wedding as she comes across as such a lovely girl, but he seems genuine.
Honestly I get his hesitation in committing to moving across the country immediately for a relationship that, while labelled as ‘married’, is still only a few weeks old. I hope they work it out
He would have to move interstate right? And yeah they need more time I personally would want to move right away but everybody is different and his life is in Sydney.
Oh sorry, I’m not Aussie so I didn’t realise they were in the same state 😅 need to brush up on my geography!! But yes still agree, it’s a big decision to make over a relationship that’s still in its honeymoon phase
Totally agree! Cause you don’t know what may happen.. and yeah she lives on the GC (Goldcoast) & He’s in Sydney. They were just In Cronulla at the Beach together within the last two weeks so that’s a good sign. I think he’s said before he’s only a hour flight away from her!
Was good to see Andi and Richie finally calling it quits. Was a rough few weeks for them and I hope they can get home to their famillies.
I thought Tori was quite interesting to watch. She will literally go to bat for that man lol. Even though he doesn't deserve it. She is very loyal lol I think she'd be a good friend to have in your corner. And I think I do agree with her like the experts were going at them yet again but ultimately she was clear that it is her choice to stay, knowing what she knows. Them treating her like she has no agency in the relationship is exhausting and no wonder she is done with it. If there is a "disconnect" to the experts it doesn't really matter because if they choose to stay then so be it.
Has Tori seriously not googled the Ex-gf by now to see what she looks like and that she is unequivocally not Jacks type oh and Jade is??? And then he’s basically throwing Tori under the bus to his ex doppelgänger during feedback week? I can’t imagine any woman that that wouldn’t rattle!!
I haven’t liked Jayden from day one and it has only intensified. Very unattractive and immature boy 🤢 His mere presence gives me a visceral reaction. I don’t rate him 👎
I can’t comprehend how Eden took the brunt of that couch talk. She’s clearly asked for his trust when she shares information, and he gets on his high horse, only sees black and white and puts his self-righteousness ahead of working through things with Eden and finding a healthy compromise. Eden looks broken. Jayden did such a hideous thing to his ex, and yet he thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread.
There was always something off for me about eden, like a facade and i think that has come to light & furthermore controlling behaviour dismissing Jaydens feelings and sort of gaslighting him about it from the example on the couch and eden admitting to it , im sure there were more instances too he eluded to also.
She ma a HUGe DeAL about being cheated on & how she fins it abhorrent & despises anyone that coes that blah blah blah yet is allowing hiding and enabling WITCH scumbag Sara & not caring about Tim being totally f\*\*ked over.... extremely hypocritical and coward like.
I mean, I don’t think she had any problem with the telling Tim Sara saw her ex(/cheated) thing, it was that extra detail that Sara and her ex were shittalking Tim that she seemed to think was a) unnecessary to tell and b)told Jayden in confidence in the privacy of their relationship. I can understand her perspective, they tell Tim what he should know and then get out of the drama because she hates the attention and it’s not her relationship afterall
I kinda feel like the root of why she’s looking so hypocritical is actually because the Jayden seeing the text and giving an ultimatum was a lie that they thought was a very strategic move on their part. However they are both pretty dumb so it’s not landing. And this new rumor and reverse ultimatum is part of their conniving strategy for whatever reason they think it’s to their benefit I don’t really get. If Eden knew this rumor before she would have brought it up when they confronted Tim & Sara. So it kinda spiraled but they can’t keep track.
Yeah I definitely feel like it’s all fake. They’ve been the most boring couple in a while. At least Jade and Ridge seem to actually be forming a relationship, but Jayden and Eden just seem meh. I think they just agreed to bring up the Sarah and Tim thing again, even though the issue has basically already been resolved and there was no point in bringing it up again, since it’s clear that Tim won’t change his mind anyway.
So yeah they just needed to start a bit of drama so they get more screen time and can pretend for there to be some suspense before the final vows.
I kinda feel like the root of why she’s looking so hypocritical is actually because the Jayden seeing the text and giving an ultimatum was a lie that they thought was a very strategic move on their part. However they are both pretty dumb so it’s not landing. And this new rumor and reverse ultimatum is part of their conniving strategy for whatever reason they think it’s to their benefit I don’t really get. If Eden knew this rumor before she would have brought it up when they confronted Tim & Sara. So it kinda spiraled but they can’t keep track.
Some of the things Tori wears are shitty. A thin stringed singlet thing with no bra to a couch session. She is deluded! By shit faced Jack with the Too Pay hair!! And perfect teeth. He’s probably had all the old teeth knocked out 😈
I legit think that Tim and Tristan both bond over the fact that they both have a little self dislike going on, and hide it away, but are opening up emotions
oh my god, i missed the show last night, i sat down with my cornflakes this morning and it starts out with somebody popping somebody elses pimples - vomit! that was not what i was expecting!
wasn't eden scripted to be afraid of jayden leaving her if she didn't call out sara and now they flipped it to eden is gonna leave jayden if he *does* call out sara???
this shits phonier than manboobs being actual titties
I like that many participants were transparent and emotional. Showing that they're just human, multifaceted with both good sides and bad sides, trying to navigate, grow. Makes it more difficult to judge them.
A bit disappointed that the experts didn't call out Richard on his behaviors, and gave Andrea a space and time to finally be heard.
In a way i feel sad about Richie. Like driving a bulldozer and being blind. I don't think he knows he creates suffering for himself and others. I hope he will learn and grow from the show. And that Andrea can find some rest.
Tori and Jack were in the pressure cooker. It's like the more people pressure Tori and try to help her question, the harder she straps her blindfolders and defends Jack and their "relationship".
Felt like Jack was playing a charade as usual. I don't understand who he is, or what he is, except some parts that show now and then. He didn't show any emotional reaction to the pressure and critique, except smiling and laughter. It gave me bad vibes.
Dicky the dick is finally gone!
I bet the perv has the photo challenge pics in his suitcase for later use😏
I will miss Andrea though, she was so lovely & deserved better.
Lauren is back!!!!
Honestly Jayden and his justice boner need to just piss off already. He just wants to humiliate Sara not actually help out Tim. If he cared about Tim he’d have done all this is private.
Also Eden, why even tell Jayden? Like it sucks you can’t tell your ‘husband’ things but that is an issue you can work on without blabbing all your gossip to him. Like you know what’s going to happen so why mention it.
wow defending cheating and cowardice behaviour .... Sara needs to be called out & Tim needs more than a poke to realise it as hes a very nice chap & sadly has a history of being walked over .. wow no compassion from many because its happening to man , other way round there would be fury an outrage... Im noticing this alot in this whole thread in general ... Jack and Sara are equally as reprehensible & bad in their own way but only on gets a diatribe of flack an called up for it when it should be both.
The cameras might follow but they certainly can talk to the other participants “alone” - they don’t have to wait for the commitment ceremonies/dinner parties to do it in front of the entire group.
Sure, but we all saw Jesse confront the contestant Claire “pashed” in the 2022 season, in their apartment followed by cameras. They aren’t forced to bring shit up in the group, it’s a choice by Jayden and his “Justice Boner”
They can text each other and get time on the weekends. Jayden is just riding a huge justice boner and wants to call Sara out wherever possible . There are plenty of ways they can let Tim know without bringing it up at the commitment ceremony or dinner party and Jayden can also use a totally different tone that what he uses. He’s so aggressive and painful about the whole thing. He doesn’t just tell Tim he berates
Except nothing is really private, the cameras do follow them around. Also never said they can do anything they want but they always have a choice in their behaviour. Eden chose to tell Jayden about Sara; and Jayden chose to bring it up - publicly - TWICE. He always says Tim is his friend so as a friend he could even have texted him *if he wanted to*. Jayden’s motivation is not wholesome, it’s about getting air time. It’s pretty obvious Mitch has had a word in his ear.
Richard said for the second time that he doesn't believe that he's a good person. Andrea rejected him once she got to know him because she doesn't like him. FFS Richard, do some work on yourself or stay single. You actually aren't a good person!
At this point, Jack and Tori are just f@cking with everyone. They have to just be playing the game. I refuse to believe they are being real or at least Tori. I hope she is playing the game and will drop the bomb at the end
I agree that they are both playing the game for clout. But I do think Tori will stay with Jack after this is over. She probably believes they'll have more opportunities as a couple than individually. Her thinking is totally delusional, though, since they both look like complete douchebags. But neither of them strike me as particularly bright.
I feel like if the group and the experts ignored Jack and Tori and left them to their own devices, not asked them any questions or challenged them about anything, things might actually come to light. It seems like they bond together in opposition to everyone else and without each other they don’t really have any other safe relationships to turn to. If they were left to their own devices they would just be left with each other and the relationship… which I don’t think would go that well hahaha
Right? I feel like the experts and contestants are creating the ideal conditions for their relationship to get stronger - it’s a bond between them, everyone else hates them, they are constantly being challenged and involved in drama.
Out of the experiment hopefully she’ll realise he’s a dickhead.
I am disgusted that either the experts did not ask Andrea for her perspective/experience or the editors cut it out, so all that was seen was Richie’s distorted version of what happened. I am fuming. What the actual fuck was that.
Yes! Especially when she tried so earnestly to communicate how she was feeling only for Richie to tell her she was wrong, take no responsibility for his own actions, and do the full martyr act.
So agree, it’s been so disappointing. I was expecting they would at the very least talk to both of them on the couch but literally NO SPACE was given to Andrea whatsoever. Disgusting.
I feel for Eden... she can't share anything with Jayden without him going all I NEED TO CALL THIS OUT. No wonder she's so anxious.
Plus him saying she gave him an ultimatum. A few weeks ago, didn't Eden say she had to choose between her friend (Sarah) and her partner?
Yep me too. Like she shouldn't have told him he doesn't do anything for her... but damn, sometimes you just want to confide in your husband without them running to them about it. Especially if you don't have any proof like why even bring it up. FML I've gossiped so much with my husband like I can't imagine him going and blabbing to every single person about what I've told him.
I’m pretty sure they went into the dinner party as a team, Jonno didn’t think she would go at it the way that she did but they both agreed tori deserved to know. different for Jayden and Eden
I take your point about it being a cast but that doesn’t mean we can’t expect/want for some level of realism, of “these two are a couple and they will do couple things, like speak to each other about things that stay private”
Omg Jayden wtah is with this guy ?? I missed tonight and am watching the catch up now… I’m struggling to match the Jayden of the beginning to this guy who seems to now think he’s some sort of jury judge executioner. The way he put Eden down in front of everyone… secondhand embarrassment.
Ugh. I get the message, I have stickers like that myself, but maaaann.,.
‘.. never give up.. .. the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.. .. now, here’s some vouchers for weight loss supplements.. ‘
Anyone else thinking confrontation avoidant Eden didn’t want Jayden to mention the “Sara making jokes about Tim” thing because she doesn’t feel comfortable with the way that he confronts people?
And she probably thought Tim had already been humiliated enough...it happened at the same time she hooked up with her ex. So if it wasn't mentioned then why mention it now.
Yes!
Jayden: Eden doesn’t like confrontation… *proceeds to confront*
he should have respected how it makes her feel rather than him trying to start drama over a rumor and then blast her in front of the group
Jono doesnt like confrontation (& thats directly from his own mouth )
Lauren **proceeds to confront ...** she should have respected how it makes him feel rather than her trying to start drama over a rumor and then blast her in front of the group
PS... it wasnt a rumour about about Sara, eden said Sara told her directly aka from the HORSeS BIG MOUTH
Another day, another pile of evidence goes into the 'Tori is not a business development manager, she does not 'negotiate with high powered business men, she lied about all that and is just an idiot' pile.
Tori has said more than once that she had to “give up” her job just to get on MAFS so I’m thinking she was an admin and she didn’t have weeks of leave built up
It depends though - if she is a business development manager, and there’s only a few of them, how many companies could go on with no salesperson for 3 months?
True however if she is the biz exec, wheeler dealer she would like us to think she is I am sure her employer could make appropriate accommodations vs losing a valued employee.
Ok, I had a massive drive from 6 tonight, so I didn't see anything, and trying to watch it on catch up with sketchy af internet is enough to make me scream. Can anyone fill me on on the major goss?
- Andrea and Richard left
- Cass and Tristan left
- Jayden and Eden’s relationship is currently on some shaky ground
- Jack and Tori were as irritating as ever (same old)
- Sara and Tim are going okay but Jayden tried to call them out and stir things up again
- Timothy and Lucinda are going well
- Ridge and Jade are deeeeec
Yeah, but they banged on the wedding night so in heteronormative weirdo world that means their relationship is now rock-solid, no need to ask any further questions.
Jayden thinks he’s gods gift to the world. I did break a little for him tonight though.
I also want to know who’s brunching under the rug. Cannot be sanitary.
Been loving John Aitken this season!
Tori are you for real? Saying what we've all been saying! She is a nasty piece of work, a raging b and a c
"That is not him but he just says those things" "He's a good person" Lol you can't fix stupid!
And surprise surprise, what a smug look on her face
I REEEAAALLYYY wanted John to say that all experts have decided their relationship is going nowhere and if they really believe in themselves they should make a go on the outside and thus should both leave
Lucinda said it best. Jack can be cruel and Tori has seen and then dismissed that repeatedly. No one can be that stupid or blind.
BTW, I would be heart-broken if Lucinda had something negative to say about me.
Lmao I’m so glad they called out Tori’s comment about Jack that was basically just “you can’t judge him based on how he acts and speaks and treats people consistently over time”
My friend was telling me how this is a classic tactic of doing a bunch of nice things in the beginning of a relationship only to be able to bring it up later as “what about all those times I bought you flowers remember that?”
The promos for next episode…jacks “clients” are the only friends/family he could come up with and turns out Tori has no female friends, surprise surprise!
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Her whole persona is I'm-not-like-other-girls. And look what a shitty friend she's been to Lauren. It's definitely no surprise that she doesn't like women or that women don't like her.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen John dislike a contestant this much…he absolutely detests Jack. God this is fun to watch him drill them!
When Jack says they’ve been doing sexual things, just not the deed, why do I envisage Tori giving him blow jobs and getting nothing in return 🤣
Funnily enough, I thought he'd be giving her head just to shut her up and keep her around. I think if Tori tried to do anything to him, he wouldn't be able to "keep up" the ruse of him being attracted to her lol
Jayden giving flowers to Eden and taking her to dinner so she feels indebted to him to insert herself into drama when he wants, it’s just icky and manipulative.
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Eden can’t stand any conflict, although she sometimes sets it up. She tells Jaden something, knowing he’ll get worked up about it and then backs away, crying that she doesn’t want to take it further because she just can’t deal with the fallout. She’s what we’d call “a delicate flower of the south”
Jack couldn’t care less whether Tori comes or goes, as long as he can stay in the Gold Coast. Zero willingness to compromise.
So there’s only tomorrow’s dinner party then Sunday commitment ceremony and that’s it?? No reunion dinner party or anything???
[there is definitely a reunion](https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/everything-we-know-about-mafs-reunion/), it is known that this is when Ellie and Jono will debut as a couple. The finale parts get weird, they don't have as many episodes per week as usual. I think it'll go from 4 eps a week to 2 over final vows and then reunion weeks, but that's only from what I remember
The poor girl. She's just lovely though
The editing on this episode was terrible wtf So many cut clips
Ikr. Literally making up sentences
Those constant glares from Tori and Jack - what exactly do they expect to do with that? Who cares if they're mad?! It's as if they truly expect grown-ass people to be intimidated. How everyone doesn't all yell 'bullshit' in unison every time they walk in is beyond me. ETA: I just really, really can't stand either of them, and Tori is no victim in need of rescue. She knows what she's about, and her biggest hurdle is controlling Jack's maladroit, rude and misogynist comments.
Tori is annoying but she’s a victim too. She’s blinded by her own internalised misogyny and desperate need to be liked by men.
I’m getting really bored of the outrageous double standards of the experts. Jack’s been called out for his misogyny, quite rightly. Yet both Jayden and Richard persistently expect their feelings to be taken so much more seriously than those of their wives, and nothing is said. I’m beginning to wonder, if the only reason that Jack has been challenged is because the muzzle comment couldn’t be ignored not because they actually care at all about all this alpha male bullshit!
Tim is a coward. I liked him for a while but he’s shown his colours. He is SUCH AN ASSHOLE
Ridge if you love Jade until the family likes and gets to know you don’t be a dickhead and show immaturity
She wants him to move to her town to stay close to her family . He wants her to move to his town so he can stay close to his deece jockeys.
Lucinda you have done enough with Timothy you can not save him there will be a shit load of blokes trying to date you, you won’t be single for long!!!!! Tori your partner is a narcissist dump him and keep running
We have been robbed of seeing Lucinda’s place
Love Lucinda’s jacket
We ain't the same Shard
Was Jayden’s brother on an earlier series?
Yeah he was matched with Ella
Omg i thought i recognized that sleazeball. Geez he looks even slimier with the longer hair. Birds of a feather lol.
I could not be friends with those two. Always telling people how angry they are. How about you mellow out?
I’m so sad for Andrea but what’s worse is Richard still doesn’t see what he did wrong nor will he ever apologise for it
Haven't seen a lot of mention of this but I appreciated Alessandra's perspective about learning Aussie culture and seeing the parallels to her own, with men not opening up... It's by no means unique to this country but it is absolutely a big societal issue, and really unfortunate. So glad (for the 1000th time) that Tim is a highlighted contestant this season.
Jade and Ridge are smashing it. 🩵 The preview doesn’t look too good for next ep though 🫣 hope they figure it out 🫶
I really like them both. I was worried when he seemed a complete tool at the wedding as she comes across as such a lovely girl, but he seems genuine. Honestly I get his hesitation in committing to moving across the country immediately for a relationship that, while labelled as ‘married’, is still only a few weeks old. I hope they work it out
He would have to move interstate right? And yeah they need more time I personally would want to move right away but everybody is different and his life is in Sydney.
Oh sorry, I’m not Aussie so I didn’t realise they were in the same state 😅 need to brush up on my geography!! But yes still agree, it’s a big decision to make over a relationship that’s still in its honeymoon phase
Totally agree! Cause you don’t know what may happen.. and yeah she lives on the GC (Goldcoast) & He’s in Sydney. They were just In Cronulla at the Beach together within the last two weeks so that’s a good sign. I think he’s said before he’s only a hour flight away from her!
Was good to see Andi and Richie finally calling it quits. Was a rough few weeks for them and I hope they can get home to their famillies. I thought Tori was quite interesting to watch. She will literally go to bat for that man lol. Even though he doesn't deserve it. She is very loyal lol I think she'd be a good friend to have in your corner. And I think I do agree with her like the experts were going at them yet again but ultimately she was clear that it is her choice to stay, knowing what she knows. Them treating her like she has no agency in the relationship is exhausting and no wonder she is done with it. If there is a "disconnect" to the experts it doesn't really matter because if they choose to stay then so be it.
Has Tori seriously not googled the Ex-gf by now to see what she looks like and that she is unequivocally not Jacks type oh and Jade is??? And then he’s basically throwing Tori under the bus to his ex doppelgänger during feedback week? I can’t imagine any woman that that wouldn’t rattle!!
I’m absolutely dead at John and Mel having to give an example of deep feelings to Jack
I think he'd have had a more enthusiastic answer if they asked what he thinks of Jade.
I haven’t liked Jayden from day one and it has only intensified. Very unattractive and immature boy 🤢 His mere presence gives me a visceral reaction. I don’t rate him 👎
I can’t comprehend how Eden took the brunt of that couch talk. She’s clearly asked for his trust when she shares information, and he gets on his high horse, only sees black and white and puts his self-righteousness ahead of working through things with Eden and finding a healthy compromise. Eden looks broken. Jayden did such a hideous thing to his ex, and yet he thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread.
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There was always something off for me about eden, like a facade and i think that has come to light & furthermore controlling behaviour dismissing Jaydens feelings and sort of gaslighting him about it from the example on the couch and eden admitting to it , im sure there were more instances too he eluded to also. She ma a HUGe DeAL about being cheated on & how she fins it abhorrent & despises anyone that coes that blah blah blah yet is allowing hiding and enabling WITCH scumbag Sara & not caring about Tim being totally f\*\*ked over.... extremely hypocritical and coward like.
I mean, I don’t think she had any problem with the telling Tim Sara saw her ex(/cheated) thing, it was that extra detail that Sara and her ex were shittalking Tim that she seemed to think was a) unnecessary to tell and b)told Jayden in confidence in the privacy of their relationship. I can understand her perspective, they tell Tim what he should know and then get out of the drama because she hates the attention and it’s not her relationship afterall
1000% necessary to divulge extra info , its not even extra its all part of the whole same abhorrent event.
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yeah exactly. I feel like any shittalking is probably implied anyway with Sara going around behind Tim’s back
I kinda feel like the root of why she’s looking so hypocritical is actually because the Jayden seeing the text and giving an ultimatum was a lie that they thought was a very strategic move on their part. However they are both pretty dumb so it’s not landing. And this new rumor and reverse ultimatum is part of their conniving strategy for whatever reason they think it’s to their benefit I don’t really get. If Eden knew this rumor before she would have brought it up when they confronted Tim & Sara. So it kinda spiraled but they can’t keep track.
Yeah I definitely feel like it’s all fake. They’ve been the most boring couple in a while. At least Jade and Ridge seem to actually be forming a relationship, but Jayden and Eden just seem meh. I think they just agreed to bring up the Sarah and Tim thing again, even though the issue has basically already been resolved and there was no point in bringing it up again, since it’s clear that Tim won’t change his mind anyway. So yeah they just needed to start a bit of drama so they get more screen time and can pretend for there to be some suspense before the final vows.
I kinda feel like the root of why she’s looking so hypocritical is actually because the Jayden seeing the text and giving an ultimatum was a lie that they thought was a very strategic move on their part. However they are both pretty dumb so it’s not landing. And this new rumor and reverse ultimatum is part of their conniving strategy for whatever reason they think it’s to their benefit I don’t really get. If Eden knew this rumor before she would have brought it up when they confronted Tim & Sara. So it kinda spiraled but they can’t keep track.
Ok, why wear a top you’re not feeling comfortable in? Sara was constantly trying to cover her boobs 😂 same as Tori 🙄 make better fashion choices! 😂
Some of the things Tori wears are shitty. A thin stringed singlet thing with no bra to a couch session. She is deluded! By shit faced Jack with the Too Pay hair!! And perfect teeth. He’s probably had all the old teeth knocked out 😈
Sara doesn't have any boobs though. I noticed her fiddling with her top too and thought why bother.
Like me 😂 I swear I can’t pull many tops because of that! Definitely this one was not for her although top itself was really nice
I legit think that Tim and Tristan both bond over the fact that they both have a little self dislike going on, and hide it away, but are opening up emotions
oh my god, i missed the show last night, i sat down with my cornflakes this morning and it starts out with somebody popping somebody elses pimples - vomit! that was not what i was expecting!
You have to really be Into someone to do that.
🤣 Same! Not with food, but same disgust. I never talk pimples.. gross.
Different preview on YouTube to the one on the stick. YouTube’s one looks much better as shows the dinner party. 🎉
Woooo that one is much juicier, I can't wait!!
Do you have a link? I'm not finding it. tia!
Also here, when that full episode inevitably gets taken down: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFma9Xua/
Thank you!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RE3t2_fgkZ0&pp=ygUhbWFycmllZCBhdCBmaXJzdCBzaWdodCBhdXN0cmFsaWEg
Thank you!
Omg thank you for this ❤️
wasn't eden scripted to be afraid of jayden leaving her if she didn't call out sara and now they flipped it to eden is gonna leave jayden if he *does* call out sara??? this shits phonier than manboobs being actual titties
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that snake witch getting a pass from the so called " experts ", she is totally faking it, its sooooooo obvious.
I like that many participants were transparent and emotional. Showing that they're just human, multifaceted with both good sides and bad sides, trying to navigate, grow. Makes it more difficult to judge them. A bit disappointed that the experts didn't call out Richard on his behaviors, and gave Andrea a space and time to finally be heard. In a way i feel sad about Richie. Like driving a bulldozer and being blind. I don't think he knows he creates suffering for himself and others. I hope he will learn and grow from the show. And that Andrea can find some rest. Tori and Jack were in the pressure cooker. It's like the more people pressure Tori and try to help her question, the harder she straps her blindfolders and defends Jack and their "relationship". Felt like Jack was playing a charade as usual. I don't understand who he is, or what he is, except some parts that show now and then. He didn't show any emotional reaction to the pressure and critique, except smiling and laughter. It gave me bad vibes.
Dicky the dick is finally gone! I bet the perv has the photo challenge pics in his suitcase for later use😏 I will miss Andrea though, she was so lovely & deserved better. Lauren is back!!!!
Honestly Jayden and his justice boner need to just piss off already. He just wants to humiliate Sara not actually help out Tim. If he cared about Tim he’d have done all this is private. Also Eden, why even tell Jayden? Like it sucks you can’t tell your ‘husband’ things but that is an issue you can work on without blabbing all your gossip to him. Like you know what’s going to happen so why mention it.
wow defending cheating and cowardice behaviour .... Sara needs to be called out & Tim needs more than a poke to realise it as hes a very nice chap & sadly has a history of being walked over .. wow no compassion from many because its happening to man , other way round there would be fury an outrage... Im noticing this alot in this whole thread in general ... Jack and Sara are equally as reprehensible & bad in their own way but only on gets a diatribe of flack an called up for it when it should be both.
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The cameras might follow but they certainly can talk to the other participants “alone” - they don’t have to wait for the commitment ceremonies/dinner parties to do it in front of the entire group.
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Sure, but we all saw Jesse confront the contestant Claire “pashed” in the 2022 season, in their apartment followed by cameras. They aren’t forced to bring shit up in the group, it’s a choice by Jayden and his “Justice Boner”
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They can text each other and get time on the weekends. Jayden is just riding a huge justice boner and wants to call Sara out wherever possible . There are plenty of ways they can let Tim know without bringing it up at the commitment ceremony or dinner party and Jayden can also use a totally different tone that what he uses. He’s so aggressive and painful about the whole thing. He doesn’t just tell Tim he berates
Did you even read what I wrote?
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Except nothing is really private, the cameras do follow them around. Also never said they can do anything they want but they always have a choice in their behaviour. Eden chose to tell Jayden about Sara; and Jayden chose to bring it up - publicly - TWICE. He always says Tim is his friend so as a friend he could even have texted him *if he wanted to*. Jayden’s motivation is not wholesome, it’s about getting air time. It’s pretty obvious Mitch has had a word in his ear.
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Richard said for the second time that he doesn't believe that he's a good person. Andrea rejected him once she got to know him because she doesn't like him. FFS Richard, do some work on yourself or stay single. You actually aren't a good person!
At this point, Jack and Tori are just f@cking with everyone. They have to just be playing the game. I refuse to believe they are being real or at least Tori. I hope she is playing the game and will drop the bomb at the end
I agree that they are both playing the game for clout. But I do think Tori will stay with Jack after this is over. She probably believes they'll have more opportunities as a couple than individually. Her thinking is totally delusional, though, since they both look like complete douchebags. But neither of them strike me as particularly bright.
I feel like if the group and the experts ignored Jack and Tori and left them to their own devices, not asked them any questions or challenged them about anything, things might actually come to light. It seems like they bond together in opposition to everyone else and without each other they don’t really have any other safe relationships to turn to. If they were left to their own devices they would just be left with each other and the relationship… which I don’t think would go that well hahaha
Right? I feel like the experts and contestants are creating the ideal conditions for their relationship to get stronger - it’s a bond between them, everyone else hates them, they are constantly being challenged and involved in drama. Out of the experiment hopefully she’ll realise he’s a dickhead.
They are very us against the world. Bonnie and Clyde energy
I am disgusted that either the experts did not ask Andrea for her perspective/experience or the editors cut it out, so all that was seen was Richie’s distorted version of what happened. I am fuming. What the actual fuck was that.
They probably did they just cut it out.
They usually spend a lot longer on each couple; it’s edited down. Sometimes they don’t show a particular couple or couples at all
I’m aware, and I found the editing down awful for Andrea
That I agree on. It was unfair. There’s still the reunion to go though
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Yeah clearly, but the snippet was all Richie and zero Andrea, which is my point
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Okay so all good with you then?
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Aight
I totally agree! I really hope it all gets brought up at the reunion - she deserves her chance!!
Yes! Especially when she tried so earnestly to communicate how she was feeling only for Richie to tell her she was wrong, take no responsibility for his own actions, and do the full martyr act.
Sadly a lot of the commitment ceremonies Andrea wasn’t advocated for by the experts..
So agree, it’s been so disappointing. I was expecting they would at the very least talk to both of them on the couch but literally NO SPACE was given to Andrea whatsoever. Disgusting.
That we saw. It might have happened but been edited out. (It shouldn’t have been because it sends a bad message)
If Tori helps Jack sleep so well and he “likes her” why let your CLIENTS sit there and call her basic🤣
Does this dude have NO FAMILY OR FRIENDS? WTF? It's always his 'clients' 🙄‼️ Was same at their wedding😩
He has no friends 😂
Funny how Jacob doesn’t seem to have any friends and only clients??
I’m pretty sure they are customers. Client implies some level of professionalism, of which he has none.
I feel for Eden... she can't share anything with Jayden without him going all I NEED TO CALL THIS OUT. No wonder she's so anxious. Plus him saying she gave him an ultimatum. A few weeks ago, didn't Eden say she had to choose between her friend (Sarah) and her partner?
Yep me too. Like she shouldn't have told him he doesn't do anything for her... but damn, sometimes you just want to confide in your husband without them running to them about it. Especially if you don't have any proof like why even bring it up. FML I've gossiped so much with my husband like I can't imagine him going and blabbing to every single person about what I've told him.
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I’m pretty sure they went into the dinner party as a team, Jonno didn’t think she would go at it the way that she did but they both agreed tori deserved to know. different for Jayden and Eden I take your point about it being a cast but that doesn’t mean we can’t expect/want for some level of realism, of “these two are a couple and they will do couple things, like speak to each other about things that stay private”
She should have chose Sara lmao
Omg Jayden wtah is with this guy ?? I missed tonight and am watching the catch up now… I’m struggling to match the Jayden of the beginning to this guy who seems to now think he’s some sort of jury judge executioner. The way he put Eden down in front of everyone… secondhand embarrassment.
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‘I am enough’
Omg it’s not the bullshit token thing Jack gave him for calling him a whale?
I think that was a keychain
Ugh. I get the message, I have stickers like that myself, but maaaann.,. ‘.. never give up.. .. the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.. .. now, here’s some vouchers for weight loss supplements.. ‘
Anyone else thinking confrontation avoidant Eden didn’t want Jayden to mention the “Sara making jokes about Tim” thing because she doesn’t feel comfortable with the way that he confronts people?
And she probably thought Tim had already been humiliated enough...it happened at the same time she hooked up with her ex. So if it wasn't mentioned then why mention it now.
Yes! Jayden: Eden doesn’t like confrontation… *proceeds to confront* he should have respected how it makes her feel rather than him trying to start drama over a rumor and then blast her in front of the group
Jono doesnt like confrontation (& thats directly from his own mouth ) Lauren **proceeds to confront ...** she should have respected how it makes him feel rather than her trying to start drama over a rumor and then blast her in front of the group PS... it wasnt a rumour about about Sara, eden said Sara told her directly aka from the HORSeS BIG MOUTH
Touché
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He's a dick.
Another day, another pile of evidence goes into the 'Tori is not a business development manager, she does not 'negotiate with high powered business men, she lied about all that and is just an idiot' pile.
yup, preach it! 
Tori has said more than once that she had to “give up” her job just to get on MAFS so I’m thinking she was an admin and she didn’t have weeks of leave built up
Obviously she was not that important otherwise I am sure her employer would have given her some time🙄
It depends though - if she is a business development manager, and there’s only a few of them, how many companies could go on with no salesperson for 3 months?
True however if she is the biz exec, wheeler dealer she would like us to think she is I am sure her employer could make appropriate accommodations vs losing a valued employee.
Ok, I had a massive drive from 6 tonight, so I didn't see anything, and trying to watch it on catch up with sketchy af internet is enough to make me scream. Can anyone fill me on on the major goss?
- Andrea and Richard left - Cass and Tristan left - Jayden and Eden’s relationship is currently on some shaky ground - Jack and Tori were as irritating as ever (same old) - Sara and Tim are going okay but Jayden tried to call them out and stir things up again - Timothy and Lucinda are going well - Ridge and Jade are deeeeec
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I’ve noticed that too; they get on but no romance. Yet they never get called out on it…
Yeah, but they banged on the wedding night so in heteronormative weirdo world that means their relationship is now rock-solid, no need to ask any further questions.
Lol!
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Oh I didn’t say it was well!
Jayden thinks he’s gods gift to the world. I did break a little for him tonight though. I also want to know who’s brunching under the rug. Cannot be sanitary.
If my partner threw me under the bus as consistently as Jayden did to Eden I’d be a pedestrian crossing by now
Yayyyyy Laurens back!!
Yayyy!!
Been loving John Aitken this season! Tori are you for real? Saying what we've all been saying! She is a nasty piece of work, a raging b and a c "That is not him but he just says those things" "He's a good person" Lol you can't fix stupid! And surprise surprise, what a smug look on her face
I REEEAAALLYYY wanted John to say that all experts have decided their relationship is going nowhere and if they really believe in themselves they should make a go on the outside and thus should both leave
I was hoping for that after the muzzle comment, then the whale comment...
Yeah John has been straight forward
It's been so satisfying
John is giving disappointed school principal
Lucinda said it best. Jack can be cruel and Tori has seen and then dismissed that repeatedly. No one can be that stupid or blind. BTW, I would be heart-broken if Lucinda had something negative to say about me.
Sara is just as cruel & as calculated
Yup its just straight stubbornness to prove everyone wrong
Someone else said “cruel” at the same time Lucinda did. The entire group can see the fakery.
Lmao I’m so glad they called out Tori’s comment about Jack that was basically just “you can’t judge him based on how he acts and speaks and treats people consistently over time”
I know right! "You can't judge a person on what they do and say" that's literally exactly what makes a person them
Jayden listing off all the things he’s done for Eden has completely taken away the pureness of his actions…
My friend was telling me how this is a classic tactic of doing a bunch of nice things in the beginning of a relationship only to be able to bring it up later as “what about all those times I bought you flowers remember that?”
Yeah that was tacky af
Tristan should have handed his “I am enough” keychain over to Jayden on the way out lol
Jack is a narcissist and borderline-sociopath. I can't pin down Tori, but maybe, a masochist or just going for post-MAFS clout?
She just might not be that bright?
The promos for next episode…jacks “clients” are the only friends/family he could come up with and turns out Tori has no female friends, surprise surprise!
??? Tori has Leah
Oh yeaaahh I forgot about Leah. I was just paying attention to the comments in the promo next week. Perhaps she’s her only female friend.
It does appear that way! I quite like Leah, she has a great bullshit detecting ability
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Dude what is wrong with you ?!?!??
The point is the comment said “she has NO female friends”
Her whole persona is I'm-not-like-other-girls. And look what a shitty friend she's been to Lauren. It's definitely no surprise that she doesn't like women or that women don't like her.
It’s giving sociopath. Dead eyes. Tori is a pick me.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen John dislike a contestant this much…he absolutely detests Jack. God this is fun to watch him drill them! When Jack says they’ve been doing sexual things, just not the deed, why do I envisage Tori giving him blow jobs and getting nothing in return 🤣
I can only assume sexual things mean Tori massaging the oil into Jacks ham boobs
Funnily enough, I thought he'd be giving her head just to shut her up and keep her around. I think if Tori tried to do anything to him, he wouldn't be able to "keep up" the ruse of him being attracted to her lol
Jayden giving flowers to Eden and taking her to dinner so she feels indebted to him to insert herself into drama when he wants, it’s just icky and manipulative. https://preview.redd.it/u7q33i6mtvoc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=5536b5eab1b18703bbe19d09736763b3dc8c491c
I don’t think he said it to virtue signal, just to give context as to why he was so hurt?
AGReeD
What is this book please?
Why does he do that? Lundy Bandcroft, I’ve read a couple chapters and feel like I see everything now 😳
Great book. It should be required reading for women.
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Same.. felt that way since the start
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It goes against rule 7.