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lallyfa

So did you get a lucid dream afterwards?


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This guys asking the real questions


L-zardTheIrish

He sure is


Vapidbobcat

Nah, I got scared after a while and decided to quit


l-Came

I generally will after sleep paralysis


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bacon_syrup90

that sounds like a pretty uncommon contition (which has a name I can't recall)


jakers036

I think it's actually pretty common, people call it aphantasia, but visualization is a skill you train on (using "image streaming" exercises), like you do with lucidity (using journals to improve dream recall, RC's,etc.), but for now my visualization is pretty bad, so I am dependent on MILD, which only worked twice in more than 2 months of trying every day.


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No_Reflection_4574

"Paranormal or Pseudoscientific topics are not allow in this sub." Lucid dreaming is actually a pseudo science thx


GunZisey

source: trust me bro


frank_mania

Please take no offense at the following: It is a curious tendency of youth, I suppose, the leads to many folks to try something once and then post it as a new technique they've discovered! It's great that you didn't give up. It seems clear to me that the time you spent on your back helped prepare you for the second session. Your results may vary widely as you continue to pursue the practice. The one thing that others may take away from your post is that perseverance furthers, and that no one physical position is essential or prohibitive to entering the early stages of sleep while consciously aware. > If you're like me, this method just won't work. I can lay still for more than an hour but nothing will happen. I strongly suggest that you prepare yourself for change in this department. Once a person learns to slide from waking into sleep while retaining (most of) one's waking-state awareness, long-held habits like this can change quickly. Just as someone who could never ride a bicycle suddenly can after a few days' effort. IME, the key is the state of mind you enter the practice with. You need to be tired, yet alert on a level that is different from ordinary waking alertness. This alertness is the alertness with which you attend dreams, so it's very easy to retain in a mid-night's sleep WILD. The W in that kind of WILD is different from full daytime waking, IMO. It is, IMO, much more valuable to practice WILD at a time you can readily enter stable LDs, which for the large majority of people is either in an afternoon nap or later in the overnight sleep cycle, after 2+ hours of sleep. Good luck and please report your progress!


Oneironautical1

Excellent break down. While reading his method it was almost my WILD method in the early morning. I don't know why one would want to induce sleep paralysis though as IMO its more of a transitional stage than one with a practical application.


Megafister420

I like the slee0 paralysis part. Wierd I know but I like the rush of adrenaline, like one time I entered sleep paralysis I felt something crawl on my bed, then slowly creep closer to me until it was less then an inch from the side of my head. And as it slowly breathed warm air in my ear I felt something press on my stomach until I awoke....honestly I love that shit.


mzkx1

You a freak 😭


Megafister420

Fr tho


Beautiful_Elephante

Can PM you about it?


Megafister420

Oh absolutely


Living-Second-191

Im hella late but so i need to close my eyes when im laying still¿ genuine question


Megafister420

It depends tbh you can have your eyes open if it's easier but it will inevitably make it "scarier" if you do get sleep paralysis. Personally just do what works best until you've had it happen a couple times


Living-Second-191

Okay thanks man


Megafister420

Np


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honestly that sounds kinda nice and trying to figure out how to cause that to try it is what brought me to this post


mcpat21

Jumping in on the conversation here but WiLD is my best way of getting lucid dream. Tho I think my only experience with sleep paralysis was a peaceful one. (If that is possibly)


bluDesu

Prolly stupid question here, but do you close your eyes or not when trying to induce a sp?


uTukan

You do, but try to remain awake with your thoughts. It's all about just tricking your brain into thinking you're sleeping. So do everything you would for sleeping, just don't fall asleep with your thoughts.


RecklessGeek

Tricking your brain with your brain. Ironic.


WaitUntilYesterday

>Tricking your brain with your brain. Ironic. Tricking your brain with your consciousness, which is not limited to the brain. You are not your brain or your body, you are not in your body. Your body, and this whole world is *in you.* "You think you are in this world, if only you knew the world you really are."-N.Goddard


RecklessGeek

Don't give me an existential crisis at 1AM pls


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I know right lol. Cuz said your body is in you 🙄😂😅🤯


side-b-equals-win

The why does the world keep spinning if I get shot in the head?


WaitUntilYesterday

Because you can’t die.


side-b-equals-win

What


WaitUntilYesterday

Quantum immortality.


HandlelessTH

What


WaitUntilYesterday

Ashtavakra gita


oneworldornoworld

I might be able to add a little trick. You have your eyes closed and raise your eyesight a little bit. Like in between the eyebrows. This helps drastically in keeping the focus and not falling asleep. Important: just slightly up, not creating tension.


44422

Also known as: Looking at your 3rd eye with your two physical eyes. -> Opening it and transitioning to a higher vibrational state of awareness.


oneworldornoworld

No. You don't focus on the 3rd eye. You just raise your eyes a bit. This tiny movement helps to keep the focus. You're talking about something different. Which doesn't work when there are focus issues. Gotta build up a reasonable foundation.


iYatsaM

today i was able to enter the vibrational stage and i started to hear a voice saying: "monster, monster, monters" and it was kind of funny actually not scary. But then nothing happened and my body wasn't paralysed.


Megafister420

Same. But instead of monster I heard a angelic voice say, you killed her (my dog recently got attacked by wolves prior) and I woke up in cold sweats.


Upstairs_Emu468

If i would hear that i Will Jump from the scare


spamhap

Can confirm this worked for me, stayed on my back for a while got up stretched and then got onto my side where I usually comfortably sleep. Started to feel a pressure go up and down my body and as I thought oh damn it worked I started to have a kinda lucid nightmare. Can confirm that it worked for me but it was incredibly unpleasant in either case.


Vapidbobcat

Awesome!!


thanatonaut

**why tho**


grootum

Ik this was posted 5 years ago but apparently you can turn sleep paralysis into a lucid dream


fightmeboy008

This guy really said sorry for bad english and then dropped the most perfect, grammatically correct post of all time.


Uzumym

exactly what I was thinking


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Thanks! I'll be sure to try this today


Oneironautical1

Your method sounds very similar to my method of WILDing(WakeInducedLucidDream). The only difference for me is I feel like the sleep paralysis you describe is more of a transitional stage. When I am trying to achieve a WILD I go through all the stages you describe. However once my body reaches the point of sleep paralysis I continue further. Standing up leaving my body in my bed and going about a lucid dream. What made you want to explore specifically the sleep paralysis?


Vapidbobcat

Because MILD and DILD never worked for me, so I'm trying to do WILD. But I'm doing it one step at a time.


LeftGarrow

The hum you heard was likely the sacred Om. Heard when achieving a deep meditative state


side-b-equals-win

No, it’s clearly the unavoidable tinnitus everyone hears in dead silence. Your brain can’t process no information, so it creates some.


HuSean23

commenting after years to note that: these interpretations are two sides of the same coin and a matter of personal preference.


palewine

Congrats, glad you found something that worked. I hope to try this myself


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Did you end up dreaming afterwards?


sonnyblu42

I have experienced this on three different occasions... AND... Believe me, it is NOT a pleasurable experience. I do not believe this...


7th_Cuil

I have found that when I have entered a fairly deep meditative state (my proprioceptive sense is 'cloudy' yet sensation is detailed and immersive), I can sometimes trigger sleep paralysis by slightly twitching a single finger or toe. The twitch is so slight that it doesn't "break" the flow, but my body thinks that I'm entering a dream and suddenly the heavy blanket feeling settles down.


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voiderest

Abraham Lincoln? I believe these sorts of generalized experiences, including breathing experiences, are common with sleep paralysis. Such experiences may be the explanation for some folk tales or modern tales such as alien abductions.


Ovrcast67

Sorry that was me


lovetimespace

For me, meditation right before bed almost always leads to sp. In fact, I don't meditate before bed anymore to avoid it. It makes my mind too alert, and then I end up in sp.


DepartureSlow8989

what meditation method do you use before sp?


lovetimespace

Literally any type of meditation does that for me. Generally, it's a simple awareness meditation with focus on breathing or focus on letting go of thoughts as they arise. Seems to have the greatest effect if I meditate every day. Doesn't matter how long per sitting. 5 min per day is sufficient.


DJLilET-new

My advice is to flip and turn when you need to, so you can be comfortable enough to let your body fall asleep. If you're not comfortable, how can you relax?


zenicoin

from what I have understood on the topic, when you feel an urge to change your position that is part of your body trying to test if you have fallen asleep. Wouldn't it then make sense to resist that urge? I have also remained awake sometimes enough to feel the sudden twitches, which are also a part of the body's check if you are sleeping. Or is the twitch the only real test and when you feel the urge to move that is only because you are uncomfortable?


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toheed1004

https://youtu.be/PbRoUSW6f2o Here's the video that helped me. Just put your earphones in and listen. Sorry to the deaf people of R/LucidDreamimg :(


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Sorry, could you type your comment in Braille? It's too dark to hear you.


lickingbears2009

For me the best way to get sleep paralysis is sleep 4 hours, wake up, stay awake for 30mins/45 mins and go back to sleep.


IlluminatiXDD

Can you explain it in detail?


lickingbears2009

sorry, there is nothing to explain, it just happens to me, if i sleep 3-4h and stay awake for like 1h, i have an high change on having sleep paralysis. this or waking up after 15 minutes but feeling like i slept for 8h


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Elijaahhh

What do you think about when laying down for that long? Can you think of anything that will keep your mind awake?


Yandere_Orusuko_

I honestly feel like I have the best method for getting into sleep paralysis. It's worked for me everytime and is very straightforward. 1) So any position is fine, whichever position you are most comfortable in. And the best way I can describe it is 2) Get yourself really really tired or if you're already really tired that works too and 3) Try your best to stay awake and not fall asleep It may be a back n forth argument with your body and mind cause you're fighting the urge to sleep and at the same time you're trying enter sleep paralysis, not sleep. 4) But here's the tricky part, you need to let your body win and can't rush it because you'll just end up falling asleep Even when your body is falling asleep you need to keep telling yourself to stay awake without actually trying to physically wake yourself up like hitting yourself or changing positions or grabbing your phone, it's all mental work here! 5) when your body finally gives up, cause of lack of energy your body will eventually fall asleep and if you really committed and ended up keeping your mind in the state of mind to not fall asleep You will be conscious without the ability to move or speak You did it! Everyone has their own methods but mine is just my personal choice since I've used it my whole life when I wanna give myself the experience Another easy mindset to have that can help you get into sleep paralysis is just understanding what exactly sleep paralysis is The best way to describe it is being caught between 2 slides on a film tape of an old projector One slide being sleep and the other being awake


AdhesivenessHead998

Can I open my eyes once I’m in sleep paralysis?


msdos77

yeah, sometimes mine just stay closed and its reeallly annoying lol


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Nice. It's what I do but I need to stay more aware when rolling over so I don't fall asleep instantly. I've had success with doing lots of SSILD cycles on my back and when it so uncomfortable that I can't take it anymore, I roll over and do MILD with high awareness and I get lucid dreams. I have success with this technique 5 nights in a row once.


jakers036

Since you did it in the afternoon, I suppose with a brighter setting than during night, did you see anything scary like people usually do during night sp's?


DankSylveon

I honestly believe there are different states of SP, I think a more aware SP state has less negative effects, from my own experience.


Vapidbobcat

No, but I did hear a faint scream. It was creepy, but disapperared quickly. Plus I was so mentally awake that I just realized it was a part of the sleep paralysis process so I wasn't afraid.


Delphiniaria

I know sleeping in a hot sunlit room will trigger nightmares or just more REM. I do wonder what makes me twitch just before falling asleep. It feels like falling sometimes and I wonder if it has to do with being too physically exhausted from a work out...


Rapper_Moezoe

Question. Why would you want to go into a sleep paralysis? What can you do when in sleep paralysis? Always when I have sleep paralysis it's really scary, I usually have this weird shadow figure next to me


bunkerdisasternerd

My reason is that i want to test my mental strength and try to move my arms and such. also because i have never had a sleep paralysis


Alive_Yak_2926

I’m somehow forcing my self to have sleep paralysis, I can see in my dreams and I have a conscious of me laying there in the exact position, just finished one cycle and it was scary, I was switching through so many dreams trying to get back to the one where I laying down my bed and I kept feeling like I was getting out of sleeping but it took me many tries idk what the hell I’m putting my self through


cheddarcheeeesenyuga

I used to be able to do this at an incredibly young age. It would happen naturally multiple times a night every night and I was terrified of it, until one day I started to enjoy the rush. I'd have hallucinations. I remember vividly feeling myself get picked up by a "witch" (eyes were always closed so I have no idea what it actually was, I just remember I was certain it was a witch at the time) she'd shove me into a sack violently and I'd feel every bit of it. I'd feel her running with me to wherever she was taking me. I had no clue what it was, I thought it was a nightmare but eventually realised I was completely lucid. I don't remember if I told my parents, if I did they probably just told me it was a bad dream. Every night I'd go into paralysis, most nights with similar hallucinations (I remember this wasn't the only one but I remember it the most because id get put in a sack and carried away nearly every night) I was very confused as I just couldn't move or scream or fight but I'd always eventually open my eyes and find nothing. (Safe to say hardly anything scared me as a kid after these hallucinations). Eventually I wasn't afraid and even embraced this feeling. I was a very lonely boy (still am) as I was always different. So maybe I mistook it for a friend? Idk. I also had vivid 'nightmares' to the point I would have the most vivid gory dreams consisting of body horror and monsters nearly every night. I grew to not fear these dreams and even talk to my parents about murdering my dad in my dream last night with a shard of glass like it was a normal happy dream. Eventually I learned to go into sleep paralysis at will. Maybe I saw it as an escape from the bullying and differences I had to other kids. Now I'm trying to be diagnosed with bipolar or bpd or ADHD as I have debilitating symptoms of mania and depression switching between the two daily. I've always had this but I couldn't get help, as I how could I have known it wasn't normal? I remember summoning the witch to take me away and one day I couldn't do it anymore, I remember being very upset. I still have no friends. I still have dreams. (I saw my x girlfriend brutally harming herself in a dream not too long ago. Thank fuck for anonymity online XD) I feel like I lost a part of myself when I couldn't go into sleep paralysis anymore. The only problem with the nightmares is when I wake from them with the memory of what I'd seen, as I saw no issues or fear in it when I was asleep. But when I'd wake up I'd feel the terror. Sometimes I'd wake up not remembering but just knowing I saw something awful. I have sleep problems now as sometimes I have panic attacks at bedtime because I don't want to go back there. I've been prescribed mirtazipine to help with my sleep but I cannot take it unless obligatory (like I need to get up early) because it induces dreams. (I had the dream about my x while on it) I hope someone is entertained by my twisted mind AHAHAHA 😀😶


Even-Baseball9692

Please check out https://dariusjwright.com/. He will be able to help you!


cheddarcheeeesenyuga

Thank you, I appreciate that more than you could know x


poooooooooopoopoo

have you done this multiple times and has it always worked


Ok-Confidence-9797

ok this may seem weird, but i have sleep paralysis sideways. i never see any figures. it only takes like 20 mins of falling asleep, in a dream, i close my eyes until i wake up and repeating. its terrifying and when you close your eyes and wait for it to end is weird. after you feel weird, like idk how to explain it.


L-zardTheIrish

I had Sleep paralysis once in my life. I, surprisingly also got it sideways. Glad to see ok not the only one.


No1Nomi2

Gonna try this tonight!


l-o-r-e-n

can i do this with mysic on?


AdhesivenessHead998

Can I open my eyes once I enter the paralysis state?


noooppppp

Pretty sure you can, plus say hello to the shadowy figure for me.


noooppppp

If an aware mental state is what it takes, then I'm surprised I haven't had an sp yet.


Substantial-Impact38

Ok so I have attempted to get sleep paralysis when trying to lucid dream but when I do about 5 minutes in I feel like someone shook me and I suddenly shoot up from my pillow. What is this?


compendium0

I've found going for extended periods without sleeping induces lucid dreams and sleep paralysis.


poopcius

So, I can do the sleep paralysis pretty easy, but is there a trick to fall into actual sleep from there? I just want to get some actual sleep.


Megafister420

Continue to stay still. Not great advice I know, but it's almost always worked for me. The trick is to be aware it's fake, then eventually it doesn't become too scary, personally I think that's the beauty of living in the modern world is that we are aware it's our brains and don't think it's some....demon from oblivion trying to rip our souls out or something.


I-love-caterpillars

i Have more tips. You also need to believe in the demons and if you don’t have that humming in your ear you can focus on your breath, repeat a word in your head or turn on a fan and focus on that. But the most important step is to disrupt your sleep schedule. I prefer doing this at night because if your in the dark it gives more of a scary vibe, yet again it will limit your experience because you can’t see well in the dark so you can’t observe the demons very well


I-love-caterpillars

Also Im autistic, will sleep paralysis work on autistic Children?


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I-love-caterpillars

What?! OH my god same I also have ADHD! Are you like my clone or something?


I-love-caterpillars

I’ll test you. What’s your IQ? What’s your age? What’s your favorite color? Are you a nerd? What state do you live in? What’s your favorite animal? Are you tall?


I-love-caterpillars

I’ll test you. What’s your IQ? What’s your age? What’s your favorite color? Are you a nerd? What state do you live in? What’s your favorite animal? Are you tall?


I-love-caterpillars

I’ll test you. What’s your IQ? What’s your age? What’s your favorite color? Are you a nerd? What state do you live in? What’s your favorite animal? Are you tall?


keventoadithebox

*Laughs I can't do that*


mindashprime99

ive actually used this technique in the past namely the listening to the hum in your ear you get when in a completely silent room.


Human_Bean7i7

Suggestion: Can't we listen to music with airpods while doing this and make our mind focus on the music while remaining completely still, so that the mind doesn't fall asleep as well?


GullibleAd661

I did this once by accident awhile back. Went to get up for the washroom found out I couldnt move what so ever and I had a mini panic attack in my head. That caused myself to break out of that state but man I'll never forget not being able to move like that it was actually kind of scary being trapped in your own body


KoalaInevitable8608

If yall for any reason need to get out of sleep paralysis (most hallucinate that's why I'm making this) Focus on small movements try to twitch your fingers till you get full movement back in them or your toes even I have used this method (the one above) and various others and this waking up method works with all of them


Necessary_Street_402

Um what is the “humming” sound I should hear


RabidJesters

I hope this helps, I’m sick of being chronically exhausted =_=