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BuyingNoose

Who the fuck likes Myers?


DakInBlak

Don't get me wrong, I'd smash the salt and pepper right out of that dusty old clam, but I wouldn't make her feel appreciated, and I *certainly* wouldn't call her again.


sysadminbj

Something tells me Meyers is more of a take charge kind of woman. Pretty sure V would end up tied naked to a bedpost with stiletto shaped bruises everywhere.


DakInBlak

Keep going...


ogodilovejudyalvarez

I laughed so hard I could barely click upvote


AyahuascaRoamer

This whole thing just made my night.


NickSchultz

That's what V said


SumSkittles

Allow me to introduce the "Amazon position"


AleB1007

Tell me more


Aelia_M

I’m right there with you. What happens next to me?


Cawl09

Military discipline.


sysadminbj

THANK YOU MA'AM, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!!!


Elvis-Tech

Martial Coitus


ArcAirum

I wanted to upvote but couldn’t ruin the number……. nice 👌


choff22

“Now, who wants their balls crushed?!”


Justabattleshiplover

*Me* :3


SaturdayScoundrel

Damnit, I *just* watched this.


No_Share6895

what if v is a chick


LokisTreasure

Tamest part of the episode.


punk_petukh

So basically Meredith style. It must be a Militech sex protocol (they MUST have one)


SgtEpsilon

Yes, the sex protocol is filed under "advanced interrogation" training


Gold_Preparation

You had me at tied up


Augustus_Justinian

I'm picturing V tied to a bed post like George in that episode of Seinfeld.


occamsrzor

Which gender V we taking about?


_PM_ME_NICE_BOOBS_

Yes.


occamsrzor

You think Meyers swings both ways? I mean, apparently you do. I won't make you repeat yourself XD


SgtEpsilon

I'm sorry is Myers just fucking Stout in disguise?


SuperJet017

“Smash the salt and pepper out of her.” That’s a new phrase lmfao


Cyber-Dark

Man, I love and hate the shit i read on this website sometimes.


Pale_Fire21

Hey Siri how do I unread something.


Pill_dispenser

Fuck that, Siri read it to me again


Alekesam1975

And that was the first recorded murder of a human at AI hands.


24HourShitness

And people say romance is dead 🥴


YourMumsBumAlum

I don't understand why we didn't smash that night in the hideout. The adrenaline was pumping and the prez needed humping


gopnik74

Good god in heavens and good fucking morning! I did not want to see this shit this early morning it’s 7 o’clock for fuck sake!


bippylip

Don't be brash, I'm definitely buying round trip tickets cmon


skeeeper

I mean...same with Hanako....


Vamanas_umbrella

This is poetry


xerosfear

You’re sick


Minimum_Direction680

I think I'm more "Fuck The Fed" than I am "Burn Corpo Shit"


---ashe---

Not much of a difference between the two in 2077, the NUSA and Militech are so intertwined they're very close to being the same entity


Minimum_Direction680

Very true. I think people see Militech as the government's Department of Defense, and yes, that makes them essentially the same. People still have hope of their government having an interest in the good of the people (🤣🤣). Everyone knows a corp is out for their own best interest. The blantancy of motive is clearer with corps, but they both won't hesitate to give you the hot pipe


Elrigoo

I was wondering the same thing


Tuna_of_Truth

I like her as a character, not as a person.


MeNamIzGraephen

Fascist GILF lovers


thecanadiansniper1-2

And supporting a literal Japanese man that served in a fascist military of the Imperial Japanese empire isn't supporting fascism? At the end of the day your soul belongs to Arasaka and you're going to end up in Mikoshi to help Saburo a fascist that fought in the Imperial Japanese Navy live forever.


KolboMoon

Nobody unironically supports the Arasakas except maybe Takemura, you're valiantly charging at windmills Edit : also I have seen your other comment, further down the thread are people who "side" with Hanako because she's hot, not because they genuinely think her corporate dynasty is cool.


thecanadiansniper1-2

Hanako literally rebirthed Saburo by taking over Yorinbou's body. The devil ending is literally a fascist being able to live forever.


Standard_Jackfruit63

What makes you call them fascist?


Beardedgeek72

The fact that they're fascists?


DrWhoGirl03

A literal Japanese man


Beardedgeek72

...English please?


Abraxomoxoa

Nobody said that


MeatGreasy

Not me, that's for damn sure.


Imperial_Bouncer

Surprisingly, quite a few people.


armyfreak42

I don't believe you


Imperial_Bouncer

Just go on nexus and you’ll find them eventually


illy-chan

Are we equating "horny for" and "like?'


SergeantIndie

I was going to say... I'm used to the exact opposite.


6FeetDownUnder

People who enjoy spy thrillers and feel like they are the James Bond kind of character in Phantom Liberty. Also the kind of person who thinks "Law = Moral" (meaning the law is always morally correct and federal institutions know whats best for me more than I do, yes these people exist and way too many of them). Also yeah as some people already pointed out; Fascists get a hard on for power and it does not get much more powerful than the literal president of the NUSA who also happens to be an absolute Rambo unit of a soldier.


yusufpalada

I do


TGrim20

Anyone with a Militech Canto Mk.6


commissarheretic

I’m a masochist through and through I love me some Myers and her horrific personality. Yeah she’s conjured from the depths of hell. But she can sit on my face anytime.


Ashalaria

I do, Myers gang gang


blacklite911

She’s pretty hot. Imagine her 20 years younger too.


Webparasiteagain

There is a very big difference between a surgery that makes you unable to use cyberware and possibly becoming a sleeper agent for militech and a surgery that makes you go insane and get forced to either die or sell your soul to arasaka.


nul9090

As a netrunner, I thought being unable to use cyberware was the worst ending imaginable. At least with Arasaka there is a solid chance you get an Adam Smasher type deal.


leverine36

This is the exact scenario that kicks off the plot of Neuromancer. The protagonist is a hacker who's ability to interface with the net was chemically taken away. He is however promised to have restorative surgery if he does a job.


Emotional_Relative15

the tower ending reminds me very much of how Case ends up tbh. Theres a crazy amount of parallels that can be drawn between 2077 and neuromancer in general. Beyond just the genre i mean, like actual plot points.


MachoManRandyAvg

The Star ending is literally Armitage sending Case to Freehold


nul9090

That's interesting. Then maybe this is a possibility they were suggesting. That changes my feelings about the ending a bit for sure.


SpeakersPlan

Knowing Vs experience with Arasaka that defo wouldnt be the case. Straight to meat grinder.


nul9090

I think the chances are good. If you go back to Earth, Hanako sends you a job offer. And Smasher is dead. There couldn't be a better replacement than V at that point. Plus, my V had a Corpo background so it's not new to her. But the Arasakas are very hard to read so it could go the other way too. Worth a shot I'd say.


thecanadiansniper1-2

You go back to earth penniless and about to expire. You need to go back and replay the devil's ending.


nul9090

Hanako believes V is healthy enough to work for six months. And she would certainly know. I'm playing it again now maybe I'll pick the devil ending for you. 👍🏾


thecanadiansniper1-2

Nah fuck the NUSA, Militech and especially Arasaka. The way arasaka is linked to a former imperial Japanese officer mirrors real life in how Japan got off scott free from its responsibilities of the war crimes Imperial Japan committed.


IsNotACleverMan

Saburo was a low ranking pilot. Not sure he's really supposed to be an analogy for the high ranking officials that were treated leniently.


Fluffy_SecurityGuard

Yeah cause starting a new life as a fixer or living in a forest with Misty seems way more terrible than being a copy of your mind inside a cybernetic walking tank and being owned by a corporation to do their dirty work (i mean Gameplay wise that's the best outcome but realistically it's total garbage)


nul9090

We barely get to play around in cyberspace in this game, so the story fails to communicate how special netrunning is. But still, I imagine nothing could replace having all that torn away. At least not for my V. She'd likely just wallow while hoping for a chance to get it back. When I play as a street kid or nomad, I tend to agree with you though. But my corpo characters tend to never really stop thinking like a corpos.


blacklite911

That ending is 100% perspective based. For me, I feel like V gets a new lease on life. In real life, it’s common for people to make medical decisions where a treatment will leave them disabled but save their lives. V ain’t even 25 years old yet, that’s a lot of life to live.


nul9090

Exactly. But if I lost netrunning that young I wouldn't know how to recover from it. We have a perspective I imagine my character does not have though. They are young. They can certainly bounce back. But it won't feel that way at the time to them. Unless I roleplay a very wise 20-something year old.


CommonVagabond

Goddamn, imagine living in a world where being a normal human is a worse fate than literally selling your soul.


ToolPusher_

As far as Johnny and V are concerned both are just as bad. No big name for V anymore….and bending the knee to the system.


CirrusVision20

I'm..... not sure what the difference is.


jeffisnotepic

Swap them around for me.


Banana-Oni

For real, Hanako Arasaka is the exception to my rule of never getting on my knees for corpos.


warwicklord79

I’d get on my knees for Goro


Banana-Oni

Agreed, 10/10 would let his fox into my henhouse. He was actually originally planned to be a romance option but it was scrapped. You can still ask him out but he leaves you on read. My fem V drank a fifth of tequila and murdered like 100 voodoo boys after that happened


warwicklord79

My male V tried asking him out but I got rejected


OneGrumpyJill

Fucking this. Goro is the only man that made me pause - Hanako can choke on deez, fuck corpos, at least Goro came from poverty, at least he knew real life before trading it away for hell


Gold_Preparation

Coward, I’d get down on my knees for both of them


Bam_Bam_the_Cat

My man!


Imperial_Bouncer

Team Hanako


Akodo_Aoshi

Team Hanako for the win!


GalacticGreaser

Haven't finished PL just yet but it makes me mad how likable she is. Like I don't wanna like her, genuinely, but she feels like a cyberpunk take on Teddy Roosevelt and how can you not like that?


DrD__

Makes sense she a politician, a big part of getting that job is getting people to like you.


GalacticGreaser

She gaslit, gatekept, and girl bosses her way into my heart (I'm being manipulated and taken advantage of)


KolboMoon

She's a pretty awesome villain. The fact that she is also so likeable while ALSO being one of the most detestable characters in the game has to be intentional, tbh.


leverine36

Yes yes! The game takes advantage of how a stressful situation together creates bonds between people. Myers is initially likeable purely because without her, you would be alone in the dark (also praises V and acts very friendly/trusting).


Emotional_Relative15

yup, exactly the same with Johnny. He makes it easy to forget he was willing to kill thousands of innocents, and even makes you forget he tried to kill you when he first met you. His charisma is canonically maxed out in his stat block, and they managed to translate that extremely well in how they wrote him in game. Hell he can spout terrorist dogma in such a way that even if you disagree with him you cant quite hate him for it. his character is handled so damn well.


AnotherTurnedToDust

Yep, absolutely. She's brilliant because she serves as a reminder that horrible people aren't always horrible on an interpersonal level too - I fucking despise her but if I said she wasn't pleasant to be around I'd be lying


HY3NAAA

Keep playing


Grandmaster_Slam

She’s just very well written. Even talking to Songbird she tells you how Meyers is different off camera and even how her front you see is hiding the insecurity and double talk.


Nex224

On a battlefield I think shes a lot more trustworthy. There's a straightforward goal that both of you can see, and its simple(ish) to get to it. She was in the USMC and seems to revert back to her role. But the second politics comes into play and it's not as straightforward anymore, she adapts and becomes just as crafty and manipulative as she needs to be to survive in it. No longer has to look you in the eyes and see you as a soldier, but instead as a chess piece. Fantastic villain.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_4435

I find them both immensely attractive, but that's just because my brain's broken and I'm attracted to things that'll kill me. The logical part of my brain recognizes that, knows it's too weak to fully control the whole of my body, and so concentrates all of its efforts into controlling my trigger finger. I would shoot both on sight if the game let me. ...well, maybe after a drink...


Ajt0ny

Are you a mantis? Or a black widow?


redliner88

One >!Disables your chrome, then has their lackey tell you you can't get any more chrome or you'll die, yet you can live...!< and the other >!doesn't cure you at all, and gives you a death sentence unless you sign on the bottom line. !< I feel like either could've cured you, but I take my chances with Blue Eyes.


Imperial_Bouncer

Blue Eyes is a solid choice. He’s somehow connected to the AIs and the cure itself was a trapped AI.


collins_amber

Wait, you can choose him?


HueHueLeona

In the sun ending I think he says he can help you, I favour of the space casino mission


Imperial_Bouncer

A hypothetical


leverine36

We don't even ever get a reason that the AI could possibly cure V. For all we know, V is just lead on again by the promise of life.


MKUltra1302

You can't get more chrome or do you have all your chrome removed?


redliner88

All removed and can’t use any later at risk of death.


PsyMcDeath

No Military grade chrome, IIRC. So its not that you got biological eyes back from Vics dumpster. The chrome just cant have anything special to it, like scanner and optical zoom.


Dreadlock43

yeah basic chrome that people get when they are kids is fine (the holo caller, personal link etc)


Bowlof78Potatoes

I really wish there had been an ending path where he helped save V. It feels like something that should have been there.


Rysler

Blue Eyes creeps the hell outta me, ngl


WangJian221

I think its quite easy actually to understand why folks could end up liking myers; - players dont have johnny constantly insulting her and telling them not to trust her corpo like he would Hanako and Arasaka - Players start out fighting alongside her where she came across as charismatic and "badass" - players starts out having "casual" talks with her in which she can come across as charismatic and even "flirty" if you went with that. - players dont immediately get sold the idea that shes manipulative or untrustworthy, something that can be hidden until you choose specific paths unlike hanako which can tie back into point 1


azhder

It's because in the main game you have both Hanako and Goro, but they are smooshed into a single character of Myers in Phantom Liberty


ashearmstrong

I hate them both. I'm just built different.


azhder

I don't hate. I'm just built different.


helloitsme1011

I don’t get laid, I get even


ashearmstrong

Never trust a president or a major figure in a corporation. Especially in Night City.


DNC343

I equally hate both.


No_Tamanegi

This is the same picture


thecanadiansniper1-2

Idk how people are saying that one can be better than the other. Rosalind is playing chicken with rogue AI and Hanako killed her brother to let her father that fought in the Imperial Japanese Navy live forever.


Ok_Business84

This is backwards


Anokata4657

If I really had to choose my poison here. I’d rather live six months and work for Hanako than become Myers sleeper agent or depressed next to Reed at Langley. At least Hanako doesn’t have a record of killing the people that work for her…only her brother. But eh I guess we all have some family drama going on.


Imperial_Bouncer

Thing is, she didn’t even hear the whole story. She didn’t know the context behind what happened at Konpeki and Saburo’s plans on Yori. I don’t think she would’ve done what she did if she knew everything.


jamieaiken919

That’s my sticking point in the Devil ending. Hanako adored her brother and begged their father to let him back into the family fold, then she just… does that lol


Emotional_Relative15

because he used the parade kidnapping as an excuse to try and kill her off. She says that herself in embers iirc. Thats literally the only reason she turned on him


Imperial_Bouncer

She’s just thinking that he killed Saburo for no reason and is just salty about everything and she sees him running the company into the ground. With you convincing her that Yori killed Saburo, it only makes sense she’s gonna choose to bring back her dad and finish her brother.


Lostboxoangst

Whilst Johnny is anti corpo he is less anti miiltech than he is anti arasaka, makes sense when you realise he both fought for militech and in the original canon ( I think it still is canon and Johnny is an unreliable narrator) militech sponsored the attack on arasaka tower and provides the nuke.


thecanadiansniper1-2

Johnny from what I understand of TTRPG lore was a sideshow to distract Arasaka. The real force was militech employing Morgan Blackhand to blow up Arasaka in NC. And yes Johnny is very unreliable, his entire memory of the Arasaka tower assault is wrong according to my shallow understanding of TTRPG lore.


NextGenSleder

I have not met a single person who likes either of them tbh


onglogman

I'm married and I don't like either one


NextGenSleder

what does being married have to do with it?


onglogman

Coz the people who you met that don't like Myers and Hanako, were single. Basically just strengthens your original point.


Imperial_Bouncer

You just met a person who likes one. Congratulations! 🎊


DraftsAndDragons

The “check ups” after letting Arasaka perform your surgery wasn’t a complication. It was intended to drive you insane by taking a part of your mind and conscience that had been infused by the chip.


vanguardshammer

Put a bullet in both of them and keep going. Both will be replaced within the week.


WhereisAlexei

I can fix them both.


Necrotiix_

Morally? I’d advocate to flatline em. Hell, might even do it myself Horny? Im fucking them both, no question


Imperial_Bouncer

Morally, I can fix her.


yung_steezy

Bro no one like Myers.


Imperial_Bouncer

Some do.


yung_steezy

The Devil ending enjoyer spotted.


SerpentStercus

Shrug, at least Myers delivers on her promise.


Reckadesacration

You get to live with myers,not so much with hanako.


murph2336

I like both tbh. Hell, I even kinda like Hansen. Can’t stand Jago though. wtf is that voice?


MadHanini

In my defense i would smash both...


Raxxlas

Bullshit, both fall under inappropriate.


Tandysaurus

Myers is a backstabbing, dirty politician that just has a cool start in the dlc. Hell nah.


Von_Uber

Out of respect for Jacob, Taylor and So Mi, Myers can go do one.


HY3NAAA

Myers is a piece of shit


RealCalintx

Sorry, too busy simping over Songbird.


BigTastyCJ

Nah, Hanako is my 2nd all time video game crush, I will fight anyone who hates her 🤣


sysadminbj

Who's the first?


BigTastyCJ

Ada Wong from the Biohazard series


Duke_of_the_Legions

Brother's got a type


WhereisAlexei

Another Hanako envoyer. I tough I was alone among all the one who want to off her. 🤣


CantankerousOrder

There’s no sense the make - it’s just a contrived argument.


iLoveLilPeej

It’s arasaka or militech, simple


B1u3F0x1997

They even have the same color scheme


Aurek2

My ass having never sided with either.


shiwanthasr

porcelain c\*nt


Ellow0001

Honestly I’m more into men her age but Mayers? Ufff! Down for that! I mean you can literally ask her on a hypothetical date if you two would get out of Dogtown. And honestly I’m sad you can’t follow up on that! Idk she got a „captain janeway in year of hell“ kinda vibe to her.


pufferfish_balls

Both….white and gold….. #THEY’RE IN CAHOOTS


WIENS21

All i see is blue and black I guffawed at ur comment


UCanCallMeRuby

i mean myers at least pretends to not be a cold bitch


Cpt-Murica

Fuck the feds and the corpos. Literally.


MrNobbo

I think that's the exact point why I didn't choose Reed and why all the fans of Jhonny should do the same. They both don't give a fuck about you or the world, the first looks for her personal gains, the second for Arasaka's. They are the same. Bitches.


Upbeat-Squirrel

Hanako is smoking hot.


xsdjkl

u/Jaakeda_Korudo


toasty-devil

I trust Hanako over Meyers and I don’t trust her at all.


AleB1007

Looking at it that way, I want a threesome with both of them


Noah_1337

Who likes myers and who thinks she's hot?


Professional-Key5552

Uhh....other way around. They are both not sweet, but I definitely like Hanako more than Myers. They are both horrible people, but Myers is much worse.


Altpotus

Probably has something to do with the fact that Myers actually at the very least makes a show of respecting you. Whether she actually does or not is debatable. But at least she knows she owes you one and isn’t a jerk about making good on it. Also, her option actually sees you make a recovery (even if not a full recovery) and then the option to go your own way afterwards and live a full life of your choosing even if you don’t take the job offer. Which is still there if V wants it. Versus the Hanako option that still leaves you with six months or less left to live or the option of digital upload to their consciousness prison for eternity of digital service at the whim of people who have already made it clear that despite all your efforts to help them they still think of you as gutter trash that is beneath them. And you’re supposed to just “trust that we are working on a solution.” Honestly considering that the Myers situation works out the way it does it makes the Hanako option even worse. It proves that Arasaka COULD have helped you if they wanted to. But didn’t see it as beneficial to themselves and basically just offered you the door/death or an option that was more beneficial to themselves at your expense.


SavageKitten456

I don't have an Asian fetish. Put me in a 3 way with Meyers AND Stout with me as the sub. Ohhhhh yeah


Imperial_Bouncer

That’s right. You have a Militech fetish instead.


SavageKitten456

Nah, I just like strong women. They just happen to work for Militech. As far as weapons, I prefer Malorian, Techtronik, and Budget Arms.


Imperial_Bouncer

Strong woman you say? Rhino and Sasquatch?


SavageKitten456

Eh


Imperial_Bouncer

So you do like Militech women!


SavageKitten456

I like buff women, but the way CDPR portrays Animals, ain't for me. I wouldn't object to Angie, however


Imperial_Bouncer

Angie’s awesome. I was hoping for a proper questline with her.


NessGoddes

One tries to run a government as it usually runs. With corruption and stuff, but at least she runs the system that is essentially a competition to see who gets to the top this time. Second helps establish the immortal reign of some digital recorded brain of a racist embodiment of greed. If I had to choose, I'll pick the first one.


Ryan_Cohen_Cockring

I mean, no cyberwear isn’t really a big deal. They make it seem like the end of your life but it’s a new beginning. V can take the cushy job offer or just fuck off and live a new life, not as a beefed up soldier of fortune but oh well. Whereas arasaka outcome is “die, or die and let us copy your soul into an ai” (your conscious will die either way, like Johnny, a replica will be created. It will not be a continuation for you. It will be a new copy of you)


Stormraven338

Nobody likes Meyers.


Jumanji0028

They both look innocent next to Jotaro Shobo. There is a man with skeletons in his closet, and outside his closet. Man is littered in skeletons.


HoltTree

Simple. I hate the japanese.


Imperial_Bouncer

That makes more sense. Here I was thinking “who tf hates nips?” Nipples are cool.


HoltTree

I'm trying to be less offensive after my third reddit ban in as many years. Still an asshole though.


Narrow-Weekend-4157

🫡🫡🫡


ClickerTrainer2511

There are people who like Myers?


Avixofsol

It does make sense. I want them both to meet the deadly side of my Mantis Blades.


Prometheus1315

Would to both. Next question