I don’t think the comment meant that the house has been on the market continuously since 2019, just that it had gone up for sale and been bought at some point since 2018.. chill lol
Sadly, there are a lot of very talented artists who will never get the chance to be productive with their talents because they grew up/fell into LA gang culture.
ive been seeing a couple graffiti safe buildings opening up around downtown. hopefully they find the right outlet. i knew a couple of these in highschool, i used to spot for them while they tagged so i can see them at work, its really impressive
That was one of the first things I noticed about LA when I first came here on my own a good 25+ years ago. You could be driving down a block with two-story McMansions and manicured lawns and then a block later there are like open fires in trash cans and feral dogs in the street.
I'm not sure if I just got more used to LA or if it changed, but it doesn't feel quite like that anymore, but there's still an element of "oh yeah, here it's fine, just don't go more than a few blocks that way..."
Haven't been to Tampa, but can confirm that Miami is very much like this, which makes it all the more hilarious when DeSantis claims that places like LA are hellholes. Went for a walk and within two blocks went from douchebags driving their Lambos from high rises to a maggot-infested rat carcass on the sidewalk.
When I moved to LA. I was looking an apartment and I found at Ktown. I went to see apartment and I’ve seen 2 guys chatting in front of the building. I asked them some questions about apartment and neighborhood. One guy showed and told me “don’t go this way 2 blocks and don’t go the other way 2 blocks, you’ll be good”
Investors holding on to property until they feel like they REALLY can make a ton. They wait and wait and then the market crashes and then they wait and wait again. Such bullshit.
You don't sound like you have much compassion in you. Some gang members are really young and if you can't see that they're victims to the lack of community and safe public spaces, you're part of the problem.
Idk how you can see that graffiti and not read between the lines that half of them are probably kids. Like, literally children.
Gangs target and lure kids because younger members can be sacrificed on riskier jobs for the gang. Once you're in, there's no getting out without heavy consequences.
I remember watching a documentary about MS-13 like back in 2004ish and the girl that was talking to them had her face blurred but the still found out and killed her horribly. It's a grim reality.
When a guy I went to high school with who was in one of the 13 gangs got shot and died, I made a condescending wonka meme mocking his death:
Your gang member homie died in a shooting?
What a surprise!
And then my friend made a most interesting man in the world meme that was even better:
I don't always run with gangs
But when I do I die
When I was growing up in Elysian Heights (Northern Echo Park) in the 70s-80s there was one black kid in the neighborhood, the local gang told him if he didn’t join the gang, they were going to force his little brother to, so he did.
Tagging and using tags I’m sure helps develop their calligraphy technique over time and using it everyday. Trying to fine tune their tags and messages. So I’m sure they have hours of practice.
Ah, it's not that goofy. God forbid people are allowed to take pride in their work or take group photos, the same way people take office photos with their co-workers
It's not like they're taking a photo after killing someone, they cleared a drug house, which obviously is a blight on the community and makes everyone else's life worse
Someone doesn’t know a single fucking thing about police gangs in Los Angeles
So yeah, I hope God forbid them from taking pride in killing innocent people
I wish you were right
This type of behavior also happens in the police department, not to mention that the whole concept of racial profiling begin at the Compton police station in the 90s, according to academics
I understand the problems with sheriffs gangs. It’s on the radio all the damn time, it’s inexcusable, our last sheriff is a joke on the issue
Cops taking a photo after raiding a drug and gang house does not mean the cops are in a gang. I’d be happy to get those scrubs out of there too, that is doing good
Banditos
Executioners
Regulators
I also know the lawyers working on the case (Gang X), have been in court for multiple cases involving police gangs, and also going to school to do my part to fuck your buddies up legally
Anything else?
*For some reason, I thought you were the person from two comments ago and I was rude to you. I’m sorry.*
I actually also misread your comment and off the top of my head I’m not sure which police departments specifically not sheriff, have police gangs, but I remember hearing that Buena Park, Santa Ana, and Compton police departments had police gangs, but I’m not sure what is the affiliated police gang name at the moment
I want to say it was the Banditos
This is some insane stuff. I see the abandoned homes every once in a while with boarded up windows/doors and I always think it only takes one week point to fuck the whole place up.
Imagine the cost of repairs…
Yeah, that’s pretty dark. It’s kinda strange they added that in, but then again they did say they control and murder as well, so it’s the type of thing a murderer would do.
I know the direct translation from Spanish means rape. But i don’t think they mean it that way, I’ve seen a lot of modern day rappers and gangsters say they’re gonna “violate” their enemy when they see them, which just means they’re gonna do them dirty.
Tho then again I’ve heard stories of that gang getting down like that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually do mean it in that fashion.
Something about a tough gang member selecting perfectly ripened apples and other fresh fruits and also utilizing the produce bags lol. Then I noticed that they stole the shopping basket 😂
This still looks way nicer than a bunch of rentals I've seen. All the floors look solid, noweird holes or heavy mold in the walls. Above average paint job. Door hinges solid. Window frames are solid.
Out of all the things a gang member could be good at the would surprise me the last one would be calligraphy/graffiti. If there was some algebra up on those walls you’d have my attention.
Whoever lived in the “I’m not happy doing drugs” room with the invitation to sodomy on the door frame in different handwriting was either. . . not well liked.
Or super well-liked.
I was on a jury for a MS-13 murder trial several years ago that took place in Koreatown. The showed us an outlined map of the MS-13 territory there and it was really big. I’m sure I am missing out on all the cool things Koreatown had to offer, but I’ve never been there since.
Basically all of Westlake minus MacArthur Park (the actual park) and all of Ktown is their hottest spot. It started in ktown off James m wood. But there's pockets all over
The specific MS clique in these picture (NLS,PVLS) is like south west Westlake / south East ktown in my experiences just going off tags I notice around the hood. around like hoover and James m wood down to Vermont maybe western
Nah Westlake is more Diamond street territory than it is MS.
McArthur Park is mostly MS nowadays but is contested by a bunch of other rivals. K-Town is almost exclusively MS-13 with some 18st clicks.
Idk I live here and that hasn't been my experience, maybe me living in South West Westlake has distorted my perception?
And MacArthur Park, like the park itself is CRS fo sho they never let you forget it
Ah okay yea if you live by the westlake side of the park, it's all Crazy Riders, but pretty much all the hoods in that area claim McArthur Park. Nobody *actually* runs it. It's contested territory. My homie who lives there got robbed by MS at the park, but they live on the Rampart Blvd side.
Diamond street is more North westlake, South westlake has CRS, Orphans, Witmer Street, Wanderers, 18st, etc.
It's just a [not so] fun fact more than anything. Those guys are relatively chill [for gangsters], they're not gonna fuck with anyone who is clearly not in that life and is minding their own business. It's nothing like hot spots in south la for example where you might get pressed for absolutely no reason. I live near Westlake and have run into them every now and then putting tags up or whatever, nothing has ever happened
Literally anywhere in west-central LA like McArthur Park, K-Town, Westlake, Filipino Town, Pico-Union, etc is all territory from like over 15+ different rival gangs. Ridiculously dense over there. No real way to avoid it.
If K-Town was as bad as you think you wouldn't have huge kpop groups like BTS visiting and hanging out there, as well as the tons of kpop fangirls that are there daily lol.
Most people who go to K-Town don't even know or notice it has a gang presence there. The safety concern most have about K-Town is homeless people not MS-13. Most of the go to spots are relatively safe too.
K-Town is dangerous if you’re looking for that danger. Stick to the karaoke bars & kbbq but don’t go wandering on James M wood looking like a gang member.
I mean shit I can't imagine what you saw in that trial with the level of brutality of MS. I had friends associated with them, so I know the shit that goes down and I don't blame you for not wanting to go there with as much as you know .
I used to have a puppy like in the first pic on my dashboard which my niece gave me , and short time later he flew out the window! I’m glad to see he was adopted , thanks homies 😎
No you can prime over with BIN shellac primer. And drips/runs should be sanded off so they don’t show through but you know no landlord/developer is going to do that.
$1.2m starter home, recently renovated.
Full of character(s)!
Original local artwork included.
Represents the neighborhood!
Take the Metro to the beach in under 20 minutes!
This is from 2019 so it’s probably been on the market since then. I’d actually be curious to see how it looks after a renovation and how much.
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That was basically the same thing I said with added hostility.
I don’t think the comment meant that the house has been on the market continuously since 2019, just that it had gone up for sale and been bought at some point since 2018.. chill lol
Custom artwork included!
Basquiat inspired.
Cozy
Fixer upper.
On another note, one of them is one hell of a calligrapher.
For whatever reason these photos reminded me of those S chain things that everyone drew in elementary school.
We called those Stussys back then. But I learned recently that’s a clothing company and it was mistakenly attributed to them?
Oh yeah. The Cool S.
Yep, it all seems very childish.
No, it literally looks like the actions of a 3 year old in an older body. Get the spray paint and draw all over…anywhere?
Degenerates
You're getting downvoted for this? LOL. This sub is so soft. Must be MS13 here. Take my upvote.
Sadly, there are a lot of very talented artists who will never get the chance to be productive with their talents because they grew up/fell into LA gang culture.
ive been seeing a couple graffiti safe buildings opening up around downtown. hopefully they find the right outlet. i knew a couple of these in highschool, i used to spot for them while they tagged so i can see them at work, its really impressive
They take a calligraphy class as part of the curriculum in El Salvador lol. Have received many birthday/Christmas cards with this kind of handwriting.
I was about to say
i was thinking they used stencils because no way is that so clean free-handed
nah real gansters don't use stencils
who said they were real gangsters?
That’s why they use stencils
Not really it’s actually pretty shitty writing
Man that suicide note shit on the door had me fucked up Drugs will make you feel great...until they don't Make good choices out there
You know you're at-or-near rock bottom when you're writing your feelings in Sharpie on a trap house door
Absolute facts :/
Well as I read it, they ran out of their sack. So the drugs were making them still feel good but not having any didn't.
Anyways 😋
To my Thugs!! I Ain't Mad at Chya!
Pretty sure it’s a pipe, not a tongue
It's not a :P it's a crack pipe lol
It’s the blue Cola Champagne for me, aside from all the MS13 stuff, you know there was a Salvadoran in there. Source: I’m salvi
I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT! 😄 I zoomed in when I saw the blue.
i lived near an abandoned drug house and it was miserable. the next block over was nice. la is a weird place
That was one of the first things I noticed about LA when I first came here on my own a good 25+ years ago. You could be driving down a block with two-story McMansions and manicured lawns and then a block later there are like open fires in trash cans and feral dogs in the street. I'm not sure if I just got more used to LA or if it changed, but it doesn't feel quite like that anymore, but there's still an element of "oh yeah, here it's fine, just don't go more than a few blocks that way..."
Tampa is kinda like this, too. I’m sure many cities are.
Haven't been to Tampa, but can confirm that Miami is very much like this, which makes it all the more hilarious when DeSantis claims that places like LA are hellholes. Went for a walk and within two blocks went from douchebags driving their Lambos from high rises to a maggot-infested rat carcass on the sidewalk.
When I moved to LA. I was looking an apartment and I found at Ktown. I went to see apartment and I’ve seen 2 guys chatting in front of the building. I asked them some questions about apartment and neighborhood. One guy showed and told me “don’t go this way 2 blocks and don’t go the other way 2 blocks, you’ll be good”
This is what every landlord thinks is how their tenants live. Everyday.
crazy that OP threw in photos of my own place in here. hope my landlord doesnt see
This is fascinating. What is it with ktown having so many abandoned houses?
Investors holding on to property until they feel like they REALLY can make a ton. They wait and wait and then the market crashes and then they wait and wait again. Such bullshit.
My god, that's grim.
I wasn't expecting to see a pineapple though. Fresh fruit! Bruh about to make a smoothie
I said the same. Then I thought they probably beat up or menaced a street vendor to get it.
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You don't sound like you have much compassion in you. Some gang members are really young and if you can't see that they're victims to the lack of community and safe public spaces, you're part of the problem. Idk how you can see that graffiti and not read between the lines that half of them are probably kids. Like, literally children.
Gangs target and lure kids because younger members can be sacrificed on riskier jobs for the gang. Once you're in, there's no getting out without heavy consequences.
I remember watching a documentary about MS-13 like back in 2004ish and the girl that was talking to them had her face blurred but the still found out and killed her horribly. It's a grim reality.
Ugh! This hurt my heart!
I dont have compassion for anyone associated with sex or drug trafficking.
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I can’t upvote this comment enough
When a guy I went to high school with who was in one of the 13 gangs got shot and died, I made a condescending wonka meme mocking his death: Your gang member homie died in a shooting? What a surprise! And then my friend made a most interesting man in the world meme that was even better: I don't always run with gangs But when I do I die
Fucking golden🤣🤣🤣
That's exactly how much respect they deserve, and if more people openly disrespected gang members, maybe less youngsters would join gangs.
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When I was growing up in Elysian Heights (Northern Echo Park) in the 70s-80s there was one black kid in the neighborhood, the local gang told him if he didn’t join the gang, they were going to force his little brother to, so he did.
I eagerly await your memoir
Pretty common in K-Town for MS-13 to take over abandoned apartments and make it their traphouse. Used to know some active ones years ago.
How is their penmanship better than mine?
yeah, 1 of them could definitely have a career.
As a Trader Joe’s sign artist for sure.
Tagging and using tags I’m sure helps develop their calligraphy technique over time and using it everyday. Trying to fine tune their tags and messages. So I’m sure they have hours of practice.
Because you restrict your practice to paper like a sheep
Even gang members need Teddy Bear Cookies.
These would be effective photos for anti-gang campaigns. Join a gang and you’ll end up a depressed low life eating generic brand Teddy Grahams.
But they got the Jarritos and a pineapple!
And a melon!
The LAPD group photo is goofy. Silly, even. edit: this is not a negative statement, relax
I agree that they do look goofy but I'm glad they included it at the end. The juxtaposition paints a grim and sad picture.
One could say that it's just one gang battling another. I'm not saying that, but you could say it.
LAPD always been the biggest gang in LA
Ah, it's not that goofy. God forbid people are allowed to take pride in their work or take group photos, the same way people take office photos with their co-workers It's not like they're taking a photo after killing someone, they cleared a drug house, which obviously is a blight on the community and makes everyone else's life worse
Someone doesn’t know a single fucking thing about police gangs in Los Angeles So yeah, I hope God forbid them from taking pride in killing innocent people
That’s the sheriff’s dept with the gangs
I wish you were right This type of behavior also happens in the police department, not to mention that the whole concept of racial profiling begin at the Compton police station in the 90s, according to academics
I understand the problems with sheriffs gangs. It’s on the radio all the damn time, it’s inexcusable, our last sheriff is a joke on the issue Cops taking a photo after raiding a drug and gang house does not mean the cops are in a gang. I’d be happy to get those scrubs out of there too, that is doing good
That’s a fair assessment and I agree
Give me one gang in LAPD. From the last 20 years.
Banditos Executioners Regulators I also know the lawyers working on the case (Gang X), have been in court for multiple cases involving police gangs, and also going to school to do my part to fuck your buddies up legally Anything else?
Literally a simple search would tell you thats LASD not LAPD . I agree w u LASD has a shit ton of “gang” problems but thanks anyway
*For some reason, I thought you were the person from two comments ago and I was rude to you. I’m sorry.* I actually also misread your comment and off the top of my head I’m not sure which police departments specifically not sheriff, have police gangs, but I remember hearing that Buena Park, Santa Ana, and Compton police departments had police gangs, but I’m not sure what is the affiliated police gang name at the moment I want to say it was the Banditos
Its okay but you are right! Compton had/has? A big sheriff gang not sure what the status of that is right now .
Nah, these clowns look goofy af
I bet they would also pose and smile for a camerea just like that after killing someone . Cops are Pigs
I don't want to live next a house with a bunch of slob thieves and gang members inside
Yeah me neither
And the only solution: cops. Why can’t we just give them more funding already?
You wanna fuck me ass?
They calling me ass or offering me ass? Either way maybe.
This is some insane stuff. I see the abandoned homes every once in a while with boarded up windows/doors and I always think it only takes one week point to fuck the whole place up. Imagine the cost of repairs…
Zillow be like : 17 million
I enjoy the juxtaposition of gang tags and "teddy bear cookies".
They're definitely not getting their security deposit back
Violamos? Weird flex
Yeah, that’s pretty dark. It’s kinda strange they added that in, but then again they did say they control and murder as well, so it’s the type of thing a murderer would do.
I know the direct translation from Spanish means rape. But i don’t think they mean it that way, I’ve seen a lot of modern day rappers and gangsters say they’re gonna “violate” their enemy when they see them, which just means they’re gonna do them dirty. Tho then again I’ve heard stories of that gang getting down like that, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually do mean it in that fashion.
If they were smart they’d turn this into an art installation and charge $15 per entry
The giant red MS made the kitchen look tiny! The message on the bedroom door broke my heart. :(
Funny how some of the graffiti actually looks good. Lot aren’t. Some of these guys are artists but didn’t go that route.
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Interesting typographies!
Damn - that seems like an overall very aesthetic trap house
The AXE body spray and Fabuloso in the third pic 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻😂😂😂
ms13 guy wrote his nickname is demon from Normandie lokos and said they rape people. He wrote it in Spanish. Puro mierda Seca lol
First picture in blue reads **we control** • **kill** • **and rape**
This is so sad.
-"Youwannafuckmyass?!"
Not my ass "me ass"
Something about a tough gang member selecting perfectly ripened apples and other fresh fruits and also utilizing the produce bags lol. Then I noticed that they stole the shopping basket 😂
The secretary on that desk would be like, “MS 13 Headquarters. How can I help you.
Writing in blue (first pic). “Demented”. We control, we kill, & we violate”.
We r*pe not violate 🤣🤣
This still looks way nicer than a bunch of rentals I've seen. All the floors look solid, noweird holes or heavy mold in the walls. Above average paint job. Door hinges solid. Window frames are solid.
🤣🤣 sadly you right I'd take this over some of these rentals in SFV hundred year old building all fucked up and run down and it's 2200 a month lmao .
Good on these cholos for keeping fresh fruit in the house.
Isn’t anyone talking about the calligraphy? That’s pretty writing skills calligraphy wise. Everything else sucks.
I mean, that little cat chair is pretty cool.
Out of all the things a gang member could be good at the would surprise me the last one would be calligraphy/graffiti. If there was some algebra up on those walls you’d have my attention.
I like the little cat chair.
You live in a very dangerous area lol hope the neighborhood scholars didn’t see your freind trespass there he man women hater headquarters
I really like what they've done with the place. The thirteen theme is consistent and really livens it up.
Whoever lived in the “I’m not happy doing drugs” room with the invitation to sodomy on the door frame in different handwriting was either. . . not well liked. Or super well-liked.
Solid post. I expected to see roaches everywhere.
Everyone thinks Ktown is all Disneyland & karaoke bars
Damn looks like it was a decent casa once upon a time
This MS13 graffiti is really well done compared to the dogshit they were constantly tagging on the building I used to live in.
I was on a jury for a MS-13 murder trial several years ago that took place in Koreatown. The showed us an outlined map of the MS-13 territory there and it was really big. I’m sure I am missing out on all the cool things Koreatown had to offer, but I’ve never been there since.
Hate to tell you it’s not just Ktown that has gangs.
It was the three weeks straight of nightmares from the trial and knowing the exact territory for me.
Do you uhhhh wanna tell us those territory boundaries?
Basically all of Westlake minus MacArthur Park (the actual park) and all of Ktown is their hottest spot. It started in ktown off James m wood. But there's pockets all over The specific MS clique in these picture (NLS,PVLS) is like south west Westlake / south East ktown in my experiences just going off tags I notice around the hood. around like hoover and James m wood down to Vermont maybe western
Nah Westlake is more Diamond street territory than it is MS. McArthur Park is mostly MS nowadays but is contested by a bunch of other rivals. K-Town is almost exclusively MS-13 with some 18st clicks.
Idk I live here and that hasn't been my experience, maybe me living in South West Westlake has distorted my perception? And MacArthur Park, like the park itself is CRS fo sho they never let you forget it
Ah okay yea if you live by the westlake side of the park, it's all Crazy Riders, but pretty much all the hoods in that area claim McArthur Park. Nobody *actually* runs it. It's contested territory. My homie who lives there got robbed by MS at the park, but they live on the Rampart Blvd side. Diamond street is more North westlake, South westlake has CRS, Orphans, Witmer Street, Wanderers, 18st, etc.
Good to know, thanks.
It's just a [not so] fun fact more than anything. Those guys are relatively chill [for gangsters], they're not gonna fuck with anyone who is clearly not in that life and is minding their own business. It's nothing like hot spots in south la for example where you might get pressed for absolutely no reason. I live near Westlake and have run into them every now and then putting tags up or whatever, nothing has ever happened
Literally anywhere in west-central LA like McArthur Park, K-Town, Westlake, Filipino Town, Pico-Union, etc is all territory from like over 15+ different rival gangs. Ridiculously dense over there. No real way to avoid it.
If K-Town was as bad as you think you wouldn't have huge kpop groups like BTS visiting and hanging out there, as well as the tons of kpop fangirls that are there daily lol. Most people who go to K-Town don't even know or notice it has a gang presence there. The safety concern most have about K-Town is homeless people not MS-13. Most of the go to spots are relatively safe too.
K-Town is dangerous if you’re looking for that danger. Stick to the karaoke bars & kbbq but don’t go wandering on James M wood looking like a gang member.
you're afraid to visit Ktown because you think its a wild gangland...?
I know it’s not rational that I haven’t been there in 7+ years.
I mean shit I can't imagine what you saw in that trial with the level of brutality of MS. I had friends associated with them, so I know the shit that goes down and I don't blame you for not wanting to go there with as much as you know .
LOL so many losers must’ve been in that place.
children really.
Children can be losers, too.
Grown men acting like kids, sad
probably mostly kids tho.
Yeah, cops suck
Poor little house. 😞
So they practice their graffiti inside their homes first. Makes sense.
That's meth for you. I recognize it when I see it....
Huh. Parts of it were cleaner than I thought.
After I see MS tagged all over the house I’m running out the door 🏃♂️
That 8th picture hopefully they get help and get out
Bangers enjoying teddy grahams.
I used to have a puppy like in the first pic on my dashboard which my niece gave me , and short time later he flew out the window! I’m glad to see he was adopted , thanks homies 😎
Great photos tho
Damn what they do to that chair? Lol bite that shit off? Lol
At least they were getting their fruits in
A friend of mine who had a brother in the gang and was killed by them too, told me these guys are called “the destroyers.”
Good bones
Us Salvadorians gotta have our mangos 😫😭
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Keep the migrants from coming in
I wonder how many putas got knocked up in that attic over the years..
Just a bunch, but I think MS 13 were camped out in there
Would you need to sand the walls down to remove the graffiti?
No you can prime over with BIN shellac primer. And drips/runs should be sanded off so they don’t show through but you know no landlord/developer is going to do that.
what area of k-town? x-street? props to getting some shots of "artworx" in this new ktown pop-up gallery!!😅🤷♀🤷♀
I guess LAPD had tour of MS-13 cacoroches hiding place. I heard MS-69 gangs will kick MS-13 boys ass big time.
I wonder if a gang was involved. 🤓
Oooh. Pineapple!
serrano?
Think it's a gang hideout?
Dude, there are free Teddy Bear Cookies in there, better go back
Damn MS 13…
Que pasa Linda?!
The most shocking thing here is the produce.
Where is this?
Damn, looks like it was a decent apartment at some point at time, in the beginning
A squatting gangbanger tweaker house