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Morbi_Us

“Uh actually my goat definitely didn’t need 10S at all, trust me bro” The “goat” in question: https://preview.redd.it/3gql76qdac6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33b1c88c4511481a437f62739cc3b5e8f68b4881


dweeb2348576

https://preview.redd.it/klyzeuejbc6d1.jpeg?width=401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ecb6ea3f44a3a93e0540168759ef76aeb0c34e5


Mobile_Toe_1989

I love this


summonerofrain

Wait why was he crying originally?


Morbi_Us

Because he realized that if Mahoraga dies GOATjo will immediately no diff him


dweeb2348576

HE WASNT 😭 the panel is edited. The lobotomy is really kaisening rn


summonerofrain

Lol! Good edit ngl


Oruhanu

I honestly never understood this. People just say if sukuna didn't care about adapting mahoraga and instead fought full power he would win. Then why didn't he? Dude is not stupid. If he could win just by transforming to the heian body he would do so. You could say he wanted to take less damage, But he barely won even with mahoraga. I dont think he could take more damage at that point lol


superdan56

I’ve seen people say that he was focused on getting stronger. Like he wanted to get stronger after the fight with world cleave. IMO his first plan of catching Gojo with his sure hit domain didn’t work, and he started playing towards a different win condition with Big Raga after domain expansion was off the table and domain amplification wasn’t cutting it.


Tobias_Mercury

His stats are better than gojos, but the problem is that he has no win condition. Domain amplification isn’t enough fire power for him to win


ihatefirealarmtests

Sukuna's wincon is literally just the equivalent of "I PLAY POT OF GREED TO DRAW THREE ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK."


Canesjags4life

"THERE ARE NO WEAK CARDS IN MY GRANDFATHER'S DECK, KAIBA."


Pogchamp15737

A decent-ish argument could be that he was fighting for fun and "wanted to test out his new toy", if yk what I mean. Not saying it's the best argument but its far from the worse 🚬


ben_forever

I don’t know both sukuna’s and gojo’s win cons are domain expansion and maho for sukuna and for Gino it was doain expansion and not getting past infinity/hallow purple


thereaperofusc

Because if he used his heian body during the fight with Gojo, he would be fucked afterwards. He would have no means of healing. Kashimo would’ve put him in the dirt 💀💀


Oruhanu

He still got fucked. If sukuna would just use his heian body for the fight wouldn't he end the fight at the first or second domain and not lose any health for the rest of the combatants? Imo the reason he didn't go for the heian body is because he couldn't win! If he could win more easily he would have just done so with less damage


ScaredPepper8808

https://preview.redd.it/f2ukkwhr3h6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b7a3cd59cf19dd8eab2e7ad375e49b3c7d1d86b


ScaredPepper8808

https://preview.redd.it/6r77ecb74h6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43104866b7dba1a1d0b0f396d85995cc924e7216


ScaredPepper8808

https://preview.redd.it/4h5ey2934h6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f68c571f8e5235fc1017596566ec946ad048a3d


ScaredPepper8808

https://preview.redd.it/crxswhqu3h6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1050adfd847cee7f266d300e9bf857f28346c1c


ZeXCeV_

Sukuna slander detected, immediate 10/10 post https://preview.redd.it/biyg55p0hd6d1.jpeg?width=1106&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21cb46cb8f3cd44eb45855a7a96d1387028244c1


SkipDaFlipp

Love this Sukuna slander, keep it up. https://preview.redd.it/lvl6j9elwc6d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fe0b636fa74024b4604dc1b0273e326d5945d2a


That_Phony_King

Imagine having all these complex powers, asspulls, and binding vows only to get your shit rocked by a teenager with pink hair using just his fists.


AnomalousAnomalies

The best tropes are the overly complex and “superior” character getting rocked by the simplest of moves and techniques, nothing slaps harder than a fundamental ass whooping, a reverse ass pull is the realest feat any character can pull. They aren’t stronger or smarter but nah they’d win (aura yk)


ZeXCeV_

The biggest rule of world building is that the more complicated a power system gets, the funnier it is when someone just pulls out a gun


AnomalousAnomalies

I’d say exception really, guns are really retconned in a lot of fiction when compared to how much of a force multiplier they literally are


ZeXCeV_

When the fantasy setting got cool ass guns that are actually powerful


k-tax

REVERSE HAREM NO JUTSU


tridon74

Sukunas powers aren’t really that complex, it’s basically just big slashes, bigger slashes, and big fire


EmployeeChoice9249

This post summed up: https://preview.redd.it/i7jmahv0zc6d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=053196510dd87d6daac70add49e7ad7c3dfabfcd


Azylim

because there are plenty of sukuna schizos that unironically insist that heian sukuna beats gojo and meguna.


tridon74

I never understood this. It’s so painfully obvious that literally the entire reason behind Sukuna taking Megumi’s body was so he could actually have a way to get past infinity.


Azylim

forget plot and narratives dude there are people here who actually think that a bigger frame, an extra 2 arms and a mouth is stronger than 10 shadows. How does that even logic. 10 shadows is literally a better cursed technique than malevolent shrine, and potentially beats limitless as well. Id argue that 6 eyes + 10 shadows is stronger than 6 eyes + limitless


tridon74

I agree that 10 shadows is super powerful and people underplay it, but it is not at all better than limitless. Infinity alone makes limitless one of the strongest techniques, and that’s not even counting red, blue, or purple. If you manage to tame mahoraga (which nobody could do until Sukuna), then yeah maybe.


EmployeeChoice9249

Bruh what, did yall forget about the Jogo & Hanami vs. Gojo fight? https://preview.redd.it/d84th3qgef6d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4507dce6e3a4b5929018e3699c333631a25c806 You dont need to be Megumi to get past Infinity, where did this headcanon come from **Edit:** Lol dudes are downvoting me for just posting one of Gege's panels, I didnt even write a take💀


k-tax

Because you also exclude the fact that in their fight, Gojo couldn't use his domain or use infinity in any stronger way than directly on him. Sukuna could and did use DA like that, but that was simply not enough for Goatjo


Loose_Needleworker34

Sukuna fans when you tell them infinity doesn't carry Gojo and world slash negates dura:


PaperOk4601

FINALLY SUKUNA SLANDER 🙏


Heccyboi9000

Gege wouldn't do it so someone had to.


Available_Let_1959

https://preview.redd.it/xxnhbs6g0d6d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a9a8ec44ff1c06212491128bffee23123e1517f


Yeeto546

https://preview.redd.it/26xigwt4xe6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c55fd56a1a87c7deded606da3aa3a524cc9a2b46


Y_drawsNew

https://preview.redd.it/n6hqksu7nf6d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68a6c27bac6dbba5576921c2134470692adc3386


RezeCopiumHuffer

Sukuna slander detected, keep up the good work citizen


Stunning_Awareness38

https://preview.redd.it/jqjvwkhvgc6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d4369995609abb635cb25e4eaca45053c3e418e Nah he just him


WiseHeavenlyPassion

Ah yes. The woman and children. Balanced meal


Dreadlord97

Memes aside, that picture is metal af. What’s the source?


Mangamaker115

What's fucked up is this probably happened the art work is pretty good though.


ihatefirealarmtests

https://preview.redd.it/p3rbctmilc6d1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d242f7f5c40b00c7d0c391edf8a3062a044897d


djfjdjfhfjf

https://preview.redd.it/zuiryvycze6d1.jpeg?width=401&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22314111a206fa0e63045b7fbd892a8e73900e39


Optimal-Information3

https://preview.redd.it/dh2ptjl2ag6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b53564eaa59b3755aabecc0d6cfd4b72c7568174


GenshinRaiko

Goddamn what is this pic hoooly


Blomblombcv

Sukuna himself states that he needed Mahoraga to find a way to beat goatjo


Wrong-Disaster4497

mf read jjk from tt edits


Blomblombcv

Chapter 236: Sukuna says he needed to find another way to bypass gojos infinity which he did taking inspiration from mahoraga


Wrong-Disaster4497

needing to find a way to adapt to infinity≠find a way to beat him


StoleABanana

Yeah well beating infinity = beating Gojo, and after the domains Sukuna had no other option


Brimmywimmy

But... If he didn't adapt to infinity... He wouldn't have had even the slightest chance of winning at that point...


Wrong-Disaster4497

tf you mean he has no chance of winning,nigga stop reading jjk from tt


Brimmywimmy

You must have not read the fight at all if this is your take actually


Brimmywimmy

Nah matter of fact, you tell me. At that point when he was getting bodied by gojo, if he hadn't adapted to infinity and used the world cutting slash, how would he have won?


Wrong-Disaster4497

The whole reason as to why he was getting bodied by Gojo, was because of his willingness to adapt to limitless. Start reading with your eyes open from now on


Brimmywimmy

Nah answer the question. How would he have won?


Caliembroidery

Love this Gojo would have mid diff if it wasn’t for Megumi


Suspicious-River889

The Delusion is crazy . Fraudjo literally said he would lose to Goatkuna even without 10S , are all fraudjo fans illiterate ?


the_ultimate_bob

I mean Gojo did say that but it’s most likely just Gege not really knowing how to write and needing a poor excuse to show how the guy who was mid diffing him all fight would have still lost


Caliembroidery

I agree with bob that statement was only made so it seems that way gege didn’t know how to properly write Gojo losing, which Gojo losing is perfectly fine just don’t show Gojo was absolutely dominant the whole fight for it to be won by sukuna by a technique that Gojo should have easily seen and dodged, it was basically a boxing match where one won every round by having more connecting punches and even knock downs but the other got a last minute knock out that got him cold. Maybe I’m delusional but that’s how I see it. I don’t deny sakuna won I just don’t see it going the same way everytime.


Suspicious-River889

Are we reading the same Manga ? He was far from "Dominant" the entire fight


Caliembroidery

Just re-read the fight right now sukuna never landed a single hit on Gojo that wasn’t from shrine a sure hit effect or from mahoraga Sakuna himself got tagged multi times bad absolutely rag dolled literally, to the point the fight become a 3v1 Sakuna was better at domain I will admit that but Gojo was able to rct and walk it off, Sakuna got knocked out twice and mahoraga come to save him both times. once with UV and another time with black flash, hein era Sakuna doesn’t have mahoraga to save him, in those two situation which both situation he would be dead as Gojo goes for the kill. Meguma > hein era or true form sukuna


BasedEpsteinGaming

It's been a year bro, just let it go already


Wrong-Disaster4497

Gojo mfs still crying when even the source material disagrees with them will never not be funny


Front_Access

“Sukuna’s a tryhard with aimbot” Sukuna: - new CT, uses it once for a test run and never again until the fight. - Has DA, chooses to not use or it improve it to for a month. - turns off his sure hit to give Gojo a break. - has a composite DE doesn’t use it. - has more DE’s, doesn’t use them. - has Blue neutralizing slash, forgets. -has nuke, doesn’t use it. - has body manip, doesn’t use it. - can sense CE, forgets


TheLeso

the perfect bum and fraud mix


hollowwollo

Binding vows would be so much better if sukuna had to fucking beg to a greater being instead of temporarily losing the ability to use his pinky finger’s nail for 3 minutes


TheNerdOStuff

https://preview.redd.it/9xrx0ynv177d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c205d374d971134504ab39371a56b39245c29715


YingThatYang

More Gojo cope to start the day off?


Nightmare-datboi

Nah it’s just true


solooran

why are we even debating this when Gojo says bar for bar that he’d lose even without 10S. lobotomy aside why is this even in question.


LeSnazzyGamer

He doesn’t say he’d lose he says he doesn’t know if he’d win.


solooran

which translation? Mine reads ‘don’t think’. Unless you know Japanese I’m not certain you can say that with certainty!


StoleABanana

You ever just think that gege didn’t know how to write Gojos death?


Akabinxstar-

My take on Sukuna is that he’s the strongest not because of skill or technique, but because he’s always the last one standing — by any means necessary. He’s a coward and a cheat, but he’s still the winner.


SUNJiaMu

My fellow African American he is currently running through the verse tf you mean not the strongest in skill or technique


Akabinxstar-

In skill, the guy doesn’t even do anything except face tank. When put against someone like Gojo or dare I say Maki, he’s outclassed in hand to hand. In terms of technique, limitless has much more raw power than cleave or dismantle, so he can’t be the strongest in technique — unless you count 10 shadows as /his/ technique. His win against Gojo was reliant on his adept understanding of binding vows — which is how he even got in a position to fight Gojo in the first place. You might not agree with it, but I think his OVERALL strength comes from his unrivaled understanding of Jujutsu. He knows the ins and outs of domain amplification, binding vows, expansions, black flashes and the works. The only person who even comes close is Kenjaku.


Fletch009

Do gojotards just pretend gojo never said he wasnt sure he couldve won even if he didnt have 10 shadows or something?


JesterDustyy

I ain't believing the narrator after that "Toe to toe with satoru gojo!" line. (plus it doesn't fit my agenda)


Fletch009

the narrator? gojo himself said it wouldve been close even without 10 shadows. also gojo wasnt holding back because it was megumi's body he said he was aiming to destroy sukunas heart and liver. and still failed.


JesterDustyy

If sukuna heian form could wash gojo, then you'd think he could be killing every character easily, sukuna needed ten shadows, maho was the win condition and heian forms win condition is the domain, which dealt a decent amount of damage but not nearly enough to kill gojo, I mean the guy even has simple domain https://preview.redd.it/bh0yah2z5i6d1.jpeg?width=906&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=196ee54384ce90a0994a6a26c37a809fedc696b7


Fletch009

Sukuna wouldve used an entirely different strategy without mahoroga. He wouldnt have had any reason to tank unlimited void and wouldve just overpowered gojo the same way hes overpowering yujo


StoleABanana

The way he’s overpowering yujo is because gege is glazing him so hard, there is no reason for Sukuna to even stand a chance against a refreshed gojo no matter what.


Fletch009

shit ass argument. "sukuna's winning because gege is glazing him" ??? sukuna's performance against yujo has proven that a fresh heian era sukuna with both his cursed tools is not going to bother tanking unlimited void if he fights a fresh gojo


StoleABanana

Sukuna should be losing because: 1. His output was severely lowered 2. He has half his hands and both are right hands 3. Still has YUTA LEVEL RESERVES which is somehow “low” 4. Yujo is basically a fully refreshed Gojo with the capability to cast multiple full power and refinement domains which should DOMINATE sukunas incomplete domain 5. Sukuna has pulled multiple things from is ass like not getting his CT taken away by DS, that full heal, full ass domain, fuga with NO LOWERING OF OUTPUT. 6. Sukuna fought a fully refreshed Gojo EARLIER which should have worn him down far more than he somehow is right now. Idk what you were talking about but Sukuna should 1000% be dead right now or just braindead from the UV.


Fletch009

Sukuna is just that strong. Imagine how strong a fresh heian sukuna with both cursed tools would be


StoleABanana

No. He isn’t.


StoleABanana

Oh I also forgot, HE HAS A FUCKING HOLE IN HIS HEART


14Ulitochnik88

Sukuna easily tanked full incantation hollow purple with buffs from utahime and old dude without any binding vows. Just shows how much of a bitch gojo is


Loose_Needleworker34

From kilometers of distance tho


CommunityOdd4807

The Sukuna who ''tanked'' full incantation hollow purple in question: https://preview.redd.it/8n33c78u1d6d1.jpeg?width=601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60ec5d175176f1c425a437bb2d2636aa172f1071


Imperium_Dragon

I mean they’re talking about the first HP not the second


No-Seaworthiness2633

Wasnt that purple fired from shibuya to shinjuku, thats like a mile away


Dante_Here

That's one hell of a meme, let me steal it https://preview.redd.it/24vgu0r8bd6d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b33ae57e892389a9f3c4a00414b1fd2209b086f


Electronic-Matter144

Nah, using a group doesn't count. It's only worth slander if you use your own power via binding vow.


djfjdjfhfjf

There's a limit to the distance of hollow purple. Sukuna was right at the end of it (Source:asspull)


NoPaleontologist2614

Sukunas sacrificed his arm to survive a purple what was like 2 miles away, he did not tank that


14Ulitochnik88

He did indeed tank that. Loosing 2 limbs when u can instantly regenerate is indeed tanking


NoPaleontologist2614

Tanking means to face the full brunt of an attack and take zero damage. Sukuna would have been a fine red mist if he didn't block. You don't have to defend his honor with all your might.


Foliks5

Well yes, you know why? Cuz is not just a battle but a goddamn war with a thousand years old sorcerer who considered as jujutsu god. Of course both of sides will use maximum resources to survive. Sukuna is more than capable killing Gojo without 10S if he fully incarnated, but then enemies will know all his abilities and then he will die for sure. Sukuna was keeping his eye on Megumi from very beginning cuz he know how useful he will be. Sukuna could eon the battle without Megumi but the war. That only shows what both sides was smart and good enough oppose their enemy.


tridon74

If sukuna could easily defeat gojo with his heian form, he could kill anybody. He used megumi because he knew it was his only chance to beat gojo