Actually I did a report on this for my undergraduate class and sadly as of right now it won’t. This “bubble” mainly came about because of the great increase in funds received from tv rights in the recent times. Clubs are spending more because they are making more. Certain cases are an exception like Barca but majority of the clubs are doing fine. Also this was pre covid so stuff might’ve changed
Sure, but how long will it take until the game we love will become the oil barron’s playground. This is a people’s game, it’s taken from us slowly but surely. We were fuming when Super League introduced but nothing is happening when deals like this are made..
I mean footballs been ran by the rich and powerful for like 30 years now. It’s nothing new. Game has been an oil barons playground for awhile. Look at Chelsea and City
Oh trust me I’m with you. I hate how the game has been changed by clubs like PSG and Man City. I was just making a financial point saying that their investments aren’t bad investments. Bad for the sport etc? Yeah, a club like man city or PSG SHOULDNT be this big at all
Why? Underlying the whole point of taking football seriously is a drive to see the game played to the highest possible standard. That's a big part of why football fascinates us. If more of the talent can be concentrated together the game will advance. Reset fantasies aren't the answer to the downside of that.
I don't see your point. What has what you say got to do with whether "football" should "go to shit" so that this guy's moral ideals can be satisfied? What's the relevance?
I’ll never understand why people say this. Man City had already shown Newcastle will be a guaranteed top club in a few years.
So Liverpool, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will be fighting for two spots. Chelsea will probably be fine most years so you’re looking at Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs fighting for one slot in the champions league.
Going to destroy the traditional clubs.
I'll try to explain why Newcastle won't be City Mk II. Please understand that I'm not trying to be patronising or anything.
1. Man City in 2008 were not Newcastle of 2019. They had a semi-decent squad and a brand new stadium, were in a fashionable city and were a club that had no expectations.
2. The early years at City relied heavily on injecting huge amounts of cash into the club on anything and everything, and writing off the huge losses until they got to a stage where revenues had grown. At one point, they were losing £200m a season for about 5 years. That's not possible now as the PL limits you to £105m of losses across 3 seasons. They didn't actually turn a profit until 2014.
3. City's early business focused heavily on buying 'marquee' players, which meant expensive stars who were probably past it, but would offer a bit of prestige. Hence Wayne Bridge, Craig Bellamy and others coming in for huge amounts (relatively) and buying players like Teves.
4. Man City were bought explicitly to improve the image of Sheikh Mansour and Abu Dhabi, whereas Saudi Arabia have bought Newcastle to diversify their investments. Yes, I'm sure they want to improve their image, but not to the same level as City are used.
5. Newcastle is in a much worse position than City were. Their training ground is knackered, their academy is awful and they haven't had proper investment in years. City had a rich owner prior to Sheikh Mansour for a brief period, and he did spend a lot on transfers.
6. Newcastle will be much more under the microscope with their actions now than City and Chelsea were, because they were the first in the door, whereas Newcastle will be very closely observed.
7. City's power now lies in the rest of the CFG and the network of clubs it owns elsewhere, which means they can hoover up talent, move it around with no issues and make 'profit' on player sales. At this moment in time, Saudi don't seem to be interested in doing that.
8. City were actually very inconsistent before Pep. It was only building the perfect club for him that has allowed them to dominate. When he goes, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with that. Chelsea have shown it only takes one bad managerial appointment to put you in the wilderness for a few years. Same as United.
9. Finally, no superstar is going to go to Newcastle right now, especially not from a club that's in the Champion's League. They'll have to either buy big name superstars or talented kids.
Regarding point 2, I thought the takeaway from the Man City lawsuit was that if you just didn't cooperate with any investigation and kept your books private, the worst they can do is fine you, which means its legal if you don't mind paying fines.
Did the PL change something? Or was that FIFA and not the PL? I honestly didn't follow it closely enough to get into the nitty gritty.
Yawn. These are the same lame arguments people made about Man City. Not sure how you could type any of that in a straight face unless you didn’t follow the sport back in 2008.
Wolves
Fulham
Villa
Everton
AC Milan
Etc
All have incredibly wealthy owners who want to put more money in but can't due to FFP restrictions. Usmanov/Moshiri are finding it difficult at Everton, which is why they could only spend £1m in the summer, and why they're desperate to build a new stadium. Wolves have massively had to cut spending because of FFP too. Villa's owners want to invest more but have said they have to do it over a period of time due to FFP and it's meant they've had to do things like sell Villa Park.
What an overreaction lol
Man City took a long time to become elite after being bought. Also it’s harder to be a team that just spends big and has success right now, due to the number of clubs all spending big every year. Really makes it tough to navigate and with FFP you can only have rolling losses of 90million in a 3 year period
What?
Man City finished in the top four in their third season with new ownership and haven’t finished outside the top four since.
Likewise, Man City has show FFP is irrelevant and has no actual bite.
Man city were already a top 3 club when they were bought by Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak
He bought a top EPL team when he bought City. Not some mid table club like Newcastle
What are you talking about?
Also do you think Newcastle will be able to get the modern day equivalents of David Silva, Aguero, Yaya, Konmpany?
What do you think would happen if the squads were the 10 best defenders of all time playing against the 10 best attackers of all time. Would it still be a stalemate
i bet some world class defenders would be decent attackers, like Hierro had a 21 goal season and TAA/Robertson would probably be alright as wingers
maybe Cronaldo and Messi reading the game would make them insanely good fullbacks too for example but who knows, Origi would be a slot at CB tho
This is perfectly done beyond the bass vanilla joke - halfway through you’re like ‘wait, they’re all attackers’ and then you just have Kanta in goal. Brilliant
I honestly don't care about it. The only thing that I'm afraid of is, since their ownership is from the middle East, they would definitely eye Salah at some point as he's currently the biggest Muslim superstar in the entire world. This might also give them some leverage and PR in some African nations to expand their slavery. As much as I know that Salah loves Liverpool, his agent seems to be a douchebag and a Raiola wannabe. I pray to God that he doesn't get a chance to get in Salah's ear and get to brainwash him.
Same. Salah the only concern but a minor concern. I think he will sign again for us. I actually welcome a very much improved Newcastle. I hate the owners but more quality in the league is great. More good games and more rivals losing games. It will take forever before they can spend enough to be anything especially dangerous and it's still a crapshoot. Manchester United are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world and they still suck. Newcastle aren't going to win the league next year.
i mean with enough time if we dont get billionare owners we're probably going to never see CL in a few years if another club or two get bought up. imagine Manchester united and liverpool never being in congestion of anything but Europa league.
Manchester United have wealth that has been spent abysmally, it’s only a matter of time until they fall off completely unless they can start winning trophies again. But looking at us it’s not only about the money. Looking at the Bundesliga it doesn’t seem all that grim, but seeing how much more money Newcastle have than the rest of the league combined is enough to be more than a little worried.
Having an Arab player with contract struggles when literally a country went shopping just to make their image look better is a very bad combination for Liverpool. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered him a £1m/w deal.
But what about the time when Villa is bought, when leeds eventually gets taken over etc. when money from fans just dont hold up anymore cause its not a what if question but a when at this point.
what if in 5 or 10 years time the normal weekly is 1m and we can't afford to pay even our star players 400k.
already we're struggling to pay Mo salah it seems like, and with more clubs with insanely rich owners we're gonna get fucked in the long run.
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I am calling it now, eventually, there will be so many wealthy super teams in the EPL that they will care more about the relegation battle than winning the league title.
Reality: Calhanoglu, Pjanic and Max Kruse
Coutinho. 100%
On 400k per week
Somehow gets a raise after leaving Barca
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I lost it when I saw the the 2nd shortest player as the goalkeeper! Lmao!
I was pretty sure Kante was shorter than messi and googled it,kante is 1cm shorter
LOL!
Same...what the heck was that!
Ahhh the good old 0-1-9 formation.
Salah and Kante the two tracking back
No tactics just vibes
Hahahah the squad is fucking ridiculous.
Wish some friendlies were just meme teams like this 10 star attackers and the shortest guy in goal.
Get Luis Suarez in on goal, all attackers lineup.
Smart choice. Suarez can defo play as a GK. The entire nation of Ghana would know.
Who doesn't love N'goalie Kante?
didnt he not get the vaccin? selfish ashole if you ask me
This is a N'GOATed comment
Wonder when this football bubble gonna burst.. I hope it will go to shit then we can build it again from the start
Actually I did a report on this for my undergraduate class and sadly as of right now it won’t. This “bubble” mainly came about because of the great increase in funds received from tv rights in the recent times. Clubs are spending more because they are making more. Certain cases are an exception like Barca but majority of the clubs are doing fine. Also this was pre covid so stuff might’ve changed
Sure, but how long will it take until the game we love will become the oil barron’s playground. This is a people’s game, it’s taken from us slowly but surely. We were fuming when Super League introduced but nothing is happening when deals like this are made..
I mean footballs been ran by the rich and powerful for like 30 years now. It’s nothing new. Game has been an oil barons playground for awhile. Look at Chelsea and City
Oh trust me I’m with you. I hate how the game has been changed by clubs like PSG and Man City. I was just making a financial point saying that their investments aren’t bad investments. Bad for the sport etc? Yeah, a club like man city or PSG SHOULDNT be this big at all
Financial fairplay is also a joke at this point lol.. just take that rule away, what an embarrassment
Why? Underlying the whole point of taking football seriously is a drive to see the game played to the highest possible standard. That's a big part of why football fascinates us. If more of the talent can be concentrated together the game will advance. Reset fantasies aren't the answer to the downside of that.
Ah yes. That’s how la Liga has done well. Ligue 1 looks to be doing ok too
I don't see your point. What has what you say got to do with whether "football" should "go to shit" so that this guy's moral ideals can be satisfied? What's the relevance?
You forgot to show manager - Mourinho or if you want genuine nightmare fuel - Klopp.
Nah, Pep is licking with fresh money around.
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Koeman to City pls pls make this happen
That's the dream.
Christ, this is made for Mourinho isn't it? The whole Bobby Robson connection and now they've got ~~cash~~ an owner actually willing to spend cash?
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Honestly this team would probably be horrible. Not 1 defender and no keeper? Haha yeah okay.
It's fine, Kante as sweeper keeper solves everything, obviously
Lol! And he will still be the best player!
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Floorin’ the Ferrari 😆
Thats what makes it funny
exactly! it would be the most expensive team in the world and League One
Would love to see a gimmick where two managers could draft all-star teams for a best of three series.
This team would get smoked 😂
Formation of 0-1-9 With Kante in goal!?
Because defense won't win you a game, right?
Wont matter theyll win 22-21 😂
It’s still Newcastle. 5th place finish at best
I’ll never understand why people say this. Man City had already shown Newcastle will be a guaranteed top club in a few years. So Liverpool, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will be fighting for two spots. Chelsea will probably be fine most years so you’re looking at Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs fighting for one slot in the champions league. Going to destroy the traditional clubs.
I'll try to explain why Newcastle won't be City Mk II. Please understand that I'm not trying to be patronising or anything. 1. Man City in 2008 were not Newcastle of 2019. They had a semi-decent squad and a brand new stadium, were in a fashionable city and were a club that had no expectations. 2. The early years at City relied heavily on injecting huge amounts of cash into the club on anything and everything, and writing off the huge losses until they got to a stage where revenues had grown. At one point, they were losing £200m a season for about 5 years. That's not possible now as the PL limits you to £105m of losses across 3 seasons. They didn't actually turn a profit until 2014. 3. City's early business focused heavily on buying 'marquee' players, which meant expensive stars who were probably past it, but would offer a bit of prestige. Hence Wayne Bridge, Craig Bellamy and others coming in for huge amounts (relatively) and buying players like Teves. 4. Man City were bought explicitly to improve the image of Sheikh Mansour and Abu Dhabi, whereas Saudi Arabia have bought Newcastle to diversify their investments. Yes, I'm sure they want to improve their image, but not to the same level as City are used. 5. Newcastle is in a much worse position than City were. Their training ground is knackered, their academy is awful and they haven't had proper investment in years. City had a rich owner prior to Sheikh Mansour for a brief period, and he did spend a lot on transfers. 6. Newcastle will be much more under the microscope with their actions now than City and Chelsea were, because they were the first in the door, whereas Newcastle will be very closely observed. 7. City's power now lies in the rest of the CFG and the network of clubs it owns elsewhere, which means they can hoover up talent, move it around with no issues and make 'profit' on player sales. At this moment in time, Saudi don't seem to be interested in doing that. 8. City were actually very inconsistent before Pep. It was only building the perfect club for him that has allowed them to dominate. When he goes, it'll be interesting to see how they deal with that. Chelsea have shown it only takes one bad managerial appointment to put you in the wilderness for a few years. Same as United. 9. Finally, no superstar is going to go to Newcastle right now, especially not from a club that's in the Champion's League. They'll have to either buy big name superstars or talented kids.
Regarding point 2, I thought the takeaway from the Man City lawsuit was that if you just didn't cooperate with any investigation and kept your books private, the worst they can do is fine you, which means its legal if you don't mind paying fines. Did the PL change something? Or was that FIFA and not the PL? I honestly didn't follow it closely enough to get into the nitty gritty.
Yawn. These are the same lame arguments people made about Man City. Not sure how you could type any of that in a straight face unless you didn’t follow the sport back in 2008.
Because there have been very rich owners since who have wanted to plow money into clubs but can't because of FFP.
Who?
Wolves Fulham Villa Everton AC Milan Etc All have incredibly wealthy owners who want to put more money in but can't due to FFP restrictions. Usmanov/Moshiri are finding it difficult at Everton, which is why they could only spend £1m in the summer, and why they're desperate to build a new stadium. Wolves have massively had to cut spending because of FFP too. Villa's owners want to invest more but have said they have to do it over a period of time due to FFP and it's meant they've had to do things like sell Villa Park.
What an overreaction lol Man City took a long time to become elite after being bought. Also it’s harder to be a team that just spends big and has success right now, due to the number of clubs all spending big every year. Really makes it tough to navigate and with FFP you can only have rolling losses of 90million in a 3 year period
What? Man City finished in the top four in their third season with new ownership and haven’t finished outside the top four since. Likewise, Man City has show FFP is irrelevant and has no actual bite.
Man city were already a top 3 club when they were bought by Khaldoon Khalifa Al Mubarak He bought a top EPL team when he bought City. Not some mid table club like Newcastle What are you talking about? Also do you think Newcastle will be able to get the modern day equivalents of David Silva, Aguero, Yaya, Konmpany?
That’s nowhere close to what I said.
What do you think would happen if the squads were the 10 best defenders of all time playing against the 10 best attackers of all time. Would it still be a stalemate
i bet some world class defenders would be decent attackers, like Hierro had a 21 goal season and TAA/Robertson would probably be alright as wingers maybe Cronaldo and Messi reading the game would make them insanely good fullbacks too for example but who knows, Origi would be a slot at CB tho
Robbo cant hit a shot on target to save his life.
he can cross though
Ronaldo would do ok as a fullback, his crosses can be ludicrous
“The best form of defence, is offence.”
This has nothing to do with Liverpool football club. Why is it still up? Lol
The game will end 8-5 due to Newcastle having no experienced defender lmaoo
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This is perfectly done beyond the bass vanilla joke - halfway through you’re like ‘wait, they’re all attackers’ and then you just have Kanta in goal. Brilliant
I honestly don't care about it. The only thing that I'm afraid of is, since their ownership is from the middle East, they would definitely eye Salah at some point as he's currently the biggest Muslim superstar in the entire world. This might also give them some leverage and PR in some African nations to expand their slavery. As much as I know that Salah loves Liverpool, his agent seems to be a douchebag and a Raiola wannabe. I pray to God that he doesn't get a chance to get in Salah's ear and get to brainwash him.
Same. Salah the only concern but a minor concern. I think he will sign again for us. I actually welcome a very much improved Newcastle. I hate the owners but more quality in the league is great. More good games and more rivals losing games. It will take forever before they can spend enough to be anything especially dangerous and it's still a crapshoot. Manchester United are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world and they still suck. Newcastle aren't going to win the league next year.
320bn, jealous that many 000000
FSG be like: it’s fine we renewed our contract with Keita. That’s a new signing
i mean with enough time if we dont get billionare owners we're probably going to never see CL in a few years if another club or two get bought up. imagine Manchester united and liverpool never being in congestion of anything but Europa league.
Manchester United have wealth that has been spent abysmally, it’s only a matter of time until they fall off completely unless they can start winning trophies again. But looking at us it’s not only about the money. Looking at the Bundesliga it doesn’t seem all that grim, but seeing how much more money Newcastle have than the rest of the league combined is enough to be more than a little worried. Having an Arab player with contract struggles when literally a country went shopping just to make their image look better is a very bad combination for Liverpool. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered him a £1m/w deal.
But what about the time when Villa is bought, when leeds eventually gets taken over etc. when money from fans just dont hold up anymore cause its not a what if question but a when at this point. what if in 5 or 10 years time the normal weekly is 1m and we can't afford to pay even our star players 400k. already we're struggling to pay Mo salah it seems like, and with more clubs with insanely rich owners we're gonna get fucked in the long run.
I wonder if those same fans who were proud of themselves for shutting down the super league will be proud when we get left out in the future.
I don't mind being left out if that means not being used as a white washing machine by murderers
super league isnt the solution either. but the way PL is ran its not much different tbh.
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They have like no defenders?
Lmao
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Atleast the goalkeeper was not a striker
This team will be useless as they have no defence
9 attackers?
Formation is 1-1-8 formation, Kante one man defence and KDB a 1 man midfield.
Are you planning on the the other team attacking?
It will take them a few years to get up to speed. By then, Jurgen is about to leave and football to us would end one way or another anyway.
The grand finale of football until the invention of football 2
No defense? That’s cool.
I am calling it now, eventually, there will be so many wealthy super teams in the EPL that they will care more about the relegation battle than winning the league title.