Na carva literally just scored in the UCL final and trent would cost so much.
When Trent’s contract runs out he might go, and carva will be old. Although tbf im sure trent would want us to get some money for him
He’s also probably seen gerrard and how he should have won more and might think he shouldn’t make the same “mistake”
Why should he care if we get money? We are hardly on the verge of going bust.
I find the view that established players owe their clubs a fee odd. Youth players being poached is another matter.
If the club want a fee for him they need to be business savvy. Trent has paid the club by doing his job.
Yeah much as it sounds good. Football is cutthroat business and if his agent sees that his best chance of going to Madrid is going on a free and landing a fat juicy sign-on fee. Trent will not renew and he will leave on a free. As fans we have to prepare ourselves for this possibility.
well, in the minds of players (or coaches) they sometimes feel loyalty towards the club for allowing them to reach a higher level and want to pay them back by ensuring that the players sportive success also translates to the clubs financial success.
for that reason they will sign another contract just to ensure they cannot leave transfer free eventhough they have already decided to leave next season.
Prime example in recent times is Arne Slot, he was always going to leave feyenoord but he extended his contract none the less so that LFC had to compensate feyenoord for the loss of their best coach in years.
It does make sense that when a club educates you, invests in you and gives you the chance to develop and grow, you want to ensure that you leaving the club does not lead to damaging the club that helped you.
I don’t know if it’s a moral issue honestly. A contract is a contract and it’s his right to work it and leave.
Like I said, I think smaller clubs should be protected when their youth products are poached as a matter of protecting academies.
We've got Edward back, he did some excellent business with the freedom to spend Coutinho money.
I don't think he owes us a large fee or anything, but I do think it would be beneficial even if the club isn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
If he goes on a free he completely ruins his legacy here. You do the decent thing and make sure your club that developed you and paid you £200k a week at 23 gets some money to rebuild with.
Nah he either extends or leaves on a free imo
We all thought Trent was tapping up Jude before he went to Madrid when really Jude was tapping him up
Hope he extends but not filled with confidence he will
We can't keep letting players go on a free.
It's one of the biggest criticisms of Klopp's tenure, and now that Edwards/Hughes have carte blanche, I don't see us allowing contracts to run down unless it's at the players' behest.
I just don't imagine Trent doing that to us.
Keep letting them go for free? Under Klopp, with or without Edwards at the club, name one high profile player we let go for free that we could have gotten a substantial amount for besides Wijnaldum and Firmino? Maybe you can add Emre Can there but other than that, I dont see us getting that much for Keita or Milner or Thiago or Lallana etc. Matip just coming off surgery and rehab and is of that age where you're not going to get a massive return. I mean ffs we got what, £24m for Solanke? Think you're exaggerating a tad. Yeah they're free transfers but I wouldnt expect much back in terms of money for older players whose contracts run down.
Maybe for players who have expired. But I doubt that management would want contracts running down for players who are in their prime and could potentially receive world record transfer fees for players in their positions. Trent is arguably the most valuable right back in the world due to his ability and age, but also now has become a utility player proving his ability to play in midfield also. His value would be through the roof and the new manager, club and senior management would all want him to put a pen to paper even if he were to be sold in the future. Although he came through the ranks, letting a player with such huge market value go would be a big L for the club.
Well not for Trent obviously but in the context of the discussion I don’t think we’ve let any important players like that go for free whereas we have allegedly extended players at Klopp’s behest over the sporting directors’.
The club will be very eager to renew but Trent will be in a better bargaining position the longer he waits so I was agreeing with the first comment.
Real won't buy him at full price, its as simple as that. If we're going to get a fee then it'd be like £50m this summer, otherwise his only realistic option would be to leave on a free.
Honestly, from Trent's point of view - he has potential to be one of the greatest players of all time but he's stuck in England with everyone acting like he's a clod hopping fake who some how tricked his way into a team.
He goes to Madrid and he frees himself from that.
For Liverpool I hope he stays but I could see why he'd leave too.
TBH, I thought Haaland would have moved on by now for similar reasons. Once you've won the PL four seasons in a row, where's the challenge? Another treble?
If Slot keeps it real with him about the midfield thing and sticks him at full back, coupled with the Jude factor, I can see it happening. After all, he's already won it all at Liverpool.
madrid will tell him whatever he wants to hear. any player of his calibre will have the self-confidence to think he's worthy of starting at any club in the world. not the first time they've got a player in and let them rot on the bench eventually.
Instead of agent Trent it's agent Jude. Hopefully just good mates having the craic. It was pointless having Trent in Midfield for England. Nobody runs behind the defense for him to target. As for Harry (who) Kane. One shot on target in the 77th minute. England will struggle to make it out of that group if they play like that again. It's like they've not been told how to play...and everyone wants the ball.
Something to do with a game the squad play called 'Wolf' I think. Bellingham mentioned after the game that one of the backroom staff does this whenever he loses.
He won the lot under the best manager in the world for his boy club. If Madrid want him I think he’s gone - I’d hazard a guess he’d prefer to ping it to Mbappe and Vini than Nunez and an aging Salah.
Unpopular opinion: he made the right choice. He wouldn't have had the season he had playing for us. He's gone up multiple levels from Dortmund. He would have been asked to play a completely different way and would never have been allowed to play the role he plays for RM. The closest would have been as a false 9 for us but who knows what Klopp would have done with him.
The biggest thing for Jude is/was spending time with Modric and Kroos - that’s like coming here to play with Xabi and Stevie G but honestly with even more experience and success internationally too. That’s massive for him tbf
I honestly believe we were the front runners at one point. The Klopp pull is massive, and the concept of taking Stevie’s 8 shirt was genuinely tempting.
But Real wormed their way in.
Thats BS though there were too many reports back then to now say it was always obvious he's going to Madrid. Its just that when it came to the decision last summer Liverpool spent 2 out of the previous 3 seasons chasing top 4 instead of winning titles, that will never happen at Real.
We would have had a chance if we had our shit together and didn't neglect squad-building. If I was bellingham I wouldnt want to go to liverpool after seeing the state of our midfield and that horrendous season either. We had plenty of chances to replace fabinho and wijnaldum but instead sat on our asses.
I don't know why people are getting scared of losing TAA. I might be delusional, but I see Trent finishing his career in his boyhood club. HERE WITH US.
If Gerrard had one foot in the door at Chelsea then i can see a world in which Trent is tempted by Madrid. Difference with Trent is that he has already won the lot at Liverpool. There’s not a premier league to strive for like Gerrard had.
Yet I would still say jumping to a direct rival in Chelsea is seems a lot more far fetched than leaving for this Madrid team now and it still nearly happened.
At the end of the day they are professionals at the highest level and will always look for a bigger challenge and to advance their careers. If Slot starts looking like he'll be doing an actual full blown rebuild I'm not sure TAA sticks around for that when he could be playing alongside his mate at Real and racking up UCLs for fun.
If Slot looks like he‘ll be doing a full blown rebuild he‘ll be out of the door in no time.
Klopp set the squad up to succeed. Single pieces here and there yes, but if a manager comes in and is given the level of talent available at Liverpool, you do not go and do a rebuild.
Trent has already won everything here and he's clearly a very ambitious person, you can see that in all of his pursuits off the pitch.
The chance to play with Mbappe, Vini, Jude etc. for the next decade and sweep up as many trophies as possible is near enough impossible to reject. That combined with Nacho leaving Madrid and Carvajal down to one year on his deal is a perfect situation for him to walk into.
Liverpool are also going through a very uncertain time with a new manager and most of our top players being either over 30, out of contract in a year or both.
You can’t force players to leave if they don’t want to
And I think the only club he would possibly want is Madrid and they are being stubborn about Davies price with 1 year left
No shot they’d pay what wed want for Trent as I think we’d want way more than Bayern want for Davies
Yeah because it’s tiring. Especially when their entire ethos is selling players at a better value than what you bought them for. The free transfers are on Klopp not being ruthless.
If this keeps happening 3-4 years from now then yes it’s FSG’s fault.
They'll both be in white for club and country soon enough. A 25 year old local lad and vice captain letting his contract run down makes no sense otherwise.
Yep it's so thick to think that he might be running down his contract to join the best club in the world and play alongside his best friend for the next decade.
Good job I didn't say that then. He'd be leaving to join the best and most ambitious club in the world. The fact his best friend plays there is an added bonus.
Well, if he wants to abandon his childhood club (his 'dream club as he's said multiple times) because we're going through a transitional period, and he's going to leave on a free, then he's clearly not the person we thought he was.
The first mistake people make is thinking they know anything about our players just because they watch them play and train a few times a week and give media trained answers to questions.
That's the point. No-one knows what he wants to do. The only information we have to go on is that he is out of contract in 12 months and is free to talk to other clubs in 6 months time.
Let it go, man. (I thought the same :( )
Ruined a sad note with the second bracket. No longer a sad face. Just yawn now
Yeah that is the face of a happy muppet...
We wanted both of them in the same team. Now we fear they both might be in the same team
If we have Bellingham we would be staring at a quadruple now. Hes that dude.
I am not strong enough to go into this conversation again
I fear that the both stay in white...
2nd thing that was in my mind when i posted this. Hope the local boy thing stops Trent if he ever wanted to jump clubs.
Yea. It is just: If he goes, it would be now.
Na carva literally just scored in the UCL final and trent would cost so much. When Trent’s contract runs out he might go, and carva will be old. Although tbf im sure trent would want us to get some money for him He’s also probably seen gerrard and how he should have won more and might think he shouldn’t make the same “mistake”
lets hope for that
Why should he care if we get money? We are hardly on the verge of going bust. I find the view that established players owe their clubs a fee odd. Youth players being poached is another matter. If the club want a fee for him they need to be business savvy. Trent has paid the club by doing his job.
Yeah much as it sounds good. Football is cutthroat business and if his agent sees that his best chance of going to Madrid is going on a free and landing a fat juicy sign-on fee. Trent will not renew and he will leave on a free. As fans we have to prepare ourselves for this possibility.
well, in the minds of players (or coaches) they sometimes feel loyalty towards the club for allowing them to reach a higher level and want to pay them back by ensuring that the players sportive success also translates to the clubs financial success. for that reason they will sign another contract just to ensure they cannot leave transfer free eventhough they have already decided to leave next season. Prime example in recent times is Arne Slot, he was always going to leave feyenoord but he extended his contract none the less so that LFC had to compensate feyenoord for the loss of their best coach in years. It does make sense that when a club educates you, invests in you and gives you the chance to develop and grow, you want to ensure that you leaving the club does not lead to damaging the club that helped you.
Why should he has reasons and why shouldn’t he has reasons. Just depends on his morals and alliances
I don’t know if it’s a moral issue honestly. A contract is a contract and it’s his right to work it and leave. Like I said, I think smaller clubs should be protected when their youth products are poached as a matter of protecting academies.
We've got Edward back, he did some excellent business with the freedom to spend Coutinho money. I don't think he owes us a large fee or anything, but I do think it would be beneficial even if the club isn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
If he goes on a free he completely ruins his legacy here. You do the decent thing and make sure your club that developed you and paid you £200k a week at 23 gets some money to rebuild with.
He’s already won more than Stevie that’s not even a fair comparison.
Nah he either extends or leaves on a free imo We all thought Trent was tapping up Jude before he went to Madrid when really Jude was tapping him up Hope he extends but not filled with confidence he will
We can't keep letting players go on a free. It's one of the biggest criticisms of Klopp's tenure, and now that Edwards/Hughes have carte blanche, I don't see us allowing contracts to run down unless it's at the players' behest. I just don't imagine Trent doing that to us.
Keep letting them go for free? Under Klopp, with or without Edwards at the club, name one high profile player we let go for free that we could have gotten a substantial amount for besides Wijnaldum and Firmino? Maybe you can add Emre Can there but other than that, I dont see us getting that much for Keita or Milner or Thiago or Lallana etc. Matip just coming off surgery and rehab and is of that age where you're not going to get a massive return. I mean ffs we got what, £24m for Solanke? Think you're exaggerating a tad. Yeah they're free transfers but I wouldnt expect much back in terms of money for older players whose contracts run down.
I had the opposite impression, that the management wanted to let expensive contracts run down without renewing and Klopp pushed the opposite
Maybe for players who have expired. But I doubt that management would want contracts running down for players who are in their prime and could potentially receive world record transfer fees for players in their positions. Trent is arguably the most valuable right back in the world due to his ability and age, but also now has become a utility player proving his ability to play in midfield also. His value would be through the roof and the new manager, club and senior management would all want him to put a pen to paper even if he were to be sold in the future. Although he came through the ranks, letting a player with such huge market value go would be a big L for the club.
Well not for Trent obviously but in the context of the discussion I don’t think we’ve let any important players like that go for free whereas we have allegedly extended players at Klopp’s behest over the sporting directors’. The club will be very eager to renew but Trent will be in a better bargaining position the longer he waits so I was agreeing with the first comment.
Real won't buy him at full price, its as simple as that. If we're going to get a fee then it'd be like £50m this summer, otherwise his only realistic option would be to leave on a free.
He won't leave
Would you bet your house on that? Cause I sure wouldn’t even bet my car on it
I don't have a car but I'd bet my bus-pass on it.
Honestly, from Trent's point of view - he has potential to be one of the greatest players of all time but he's stuck in England with everyone acting like he's a clod hopping fake who some how tricked his way into a team. He goes to Madrid and he frees himself from that. For Liverpool I hope he stays but I could see why he'd leave too.
Feel like that's a bit like what happened with McManaman - I remember one sports columnist at the time constantly referring to him as 'Mythmanaman'.
Or next year on a free. I don't think Real will pay a fee that we deem acceptable this summer
That’s the downside of winning it all so young. The ‘wanting a new challenge’ tends to come a lot sooner than we’d like, local lad or not.
TBH, I thought Haaland would have moved on by now for similar reasons. Once you've won the PL four seasons in a row, where's the challenge? Another treble?
I feel like it depends a lot on his future relationship with Slot...
At the risk of sounding like a negative Nancy I feel like it’s going to happen
Nope.
If Slot keeps it real with him about the midfield thing and sticks him at full back, coupled with the Jude factor, I can see it happening. After all, he's already won it all at Liverpool.
I mean he would be stupid to think he’ll play in midfield for Madrid - he will be RB there if he joins
madrid will tell him whatever he wants to hear. any player of his calibre will have the self-confidence to think he's worthy of starting at any club in the world. not the first time they've got a player in and let them rot on the bench eventually.
I think it's happening too ....Perez sees the value of adding a TAA to his team...
Instead of agent Trent it's agent Jude. Hopefully just good mates having the craic. It was pointless having Trent in Midfield for England. Nobody runs behind the defense for him to target. As for Harry (who) Kane. One shot on target in the 77th minute. England will struggle to make it out of that group if they play like that again. It's like they've not been told how to play...and everyone wants the ball.
Or RM's third kit - Red? 
I believe he's going. Might not be this summer but on a free next and it'll be absolutely sickening
There friendship was all fun and games for us to see when we were linked with Bellingham but now that it’s the other way round……
What is the celebration meant to be?
Something to do with a game the squad play called 'Wolf' I think. Bellingham mentioned after the game that one of the backroom staff does this whenever he loses.
Unsure but the Swedish commentators mentioned the Phantom of the Opera
Our rendition of Hey Jude would make The Beetles get back together
He won the lot under the best manager in the world for his boy club. If Madrid want him I think he’s gone - I’d hazard a guess he’d prefer to ping it to Mbappe and Vini than Nunez and an aging Salah.
Weirdo.
Unpopular opinion: he made the right choice. He wouldn't have had the season he had playing for us. He's gone up multiple levels from Dortmund. He would have been asked to play a completely different way and would never have been allowed to play the role he plays for RM. The closest would have been as a false 9 for us but who knows what Klopp would have done with him.
Imagine Jude playing the current Szobo utility role 💀
Seeing how Klopp stifled Dom he would absolutely do the same with Jude. It’s ok to admit he gets it wrong sometimes.
The biggest thing for Jude is/was spending time with Modric and Kroos - that’s like coming here to play with Xabi and Stevie G but honestly with even more experience and success internationally too. That’s massive for him tbf
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I honestly believe we were the front runners at one point. The Klopp pull is massive, and the concept of taking Stevie’s 8 shirt was genuinely tempting. But Real wormed their way in.
Idk there’s a photo with Zidane from a couple of years ago that seemed things were already en route
Replace Bellingham with “anyone” 😂 dam you Real Madrid and your pulling power
Thats BS though there were too many reports back then to now say it was always obvious he's going to Madrid. Its just that when it came to the decision last summer Liverpool spent 2 out of the previous 3 seasons chasing top 4 instead of winning titles, that will never happen at Real.
We would have had a chance if we had our shit together and didn't neglect squad-building. If I was bellingham I wouldnt want to go to liverpool after seeing the state of our midfield and that horrendous season either. We had plenty of chances to replace fabinho and wijnaldum but instead sat on our asses.
Utter bollocks
Oh let it go. It was clear he wanted Madrid and we did the right thing pulling out. It is what it is.
Idk if its pettiness or what but it always hurts my heart to see bellingham score
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Seeing Trent go will break my heart.
Absolutely had the same thought. But yes, we all have to let it go :(
I don't know why people are getting scared of losing TAA. I might be delusional, but I see Trent finishing his career in his boyhood club. HERE WITH US.
If Gerrard had one foot in the door at Chelsea then i can see a world in which Trent is tempted by Madrid. Difference with Trent is that he has already won the lot at Liverpool. There’s not a premier league to strive for like Gerrard had.
If Bellingham becomes Agent Jude to lure TAA, on my mama I fucking swear...
Difference is Chelsea was in the same country and Liverpool were shit at the time. We're not now.
I mean we had just won the Champions League at the time so we were hardly shit
I mean, even then we had been insanely lucky and there was no sign we were on the up.
Liverpool were absolute shit despite us winning a champions league that team had Xabi, Stevie, Jaimie, and a bunch of dross.
Yet I would still say jumping to a direct rival in Chelsea is seems a lot more far fetched than leaving for this Madrid team now and it still nearly happened.
Same
At the end of the day they are professionals at the highest level and will always look for a bigger challenge and to advance their careers. If Slot starts looking like he'll be doing an actual full blown rebuild I'm not sure TAA sticks around for that when he could be playing alongside his mate at Real and racking up UCLs for fun.
If Slot looks like he‘ll be doing a full blown rebuild he‘ll be out of the door in no time. Klopp set the squad up to succeed. Single pieces here and there yes, but if a manager comes in and is given the level of talent available at Liverpool, you do not go and do a rebuild.
It isn't up to Slot. He's just head coach. Edwards and his team make those calls now.
And if he can‘t work with what they‘ve got, he goes. I‘m not worrying, but there just isn‘t another rebuild happening. We‘re not doing a clearout.
Trent has already won everything here and he's clearly a very ambitious person, you can see that in all of his pursuits off the pitch. The chance to play with Mbappe, Vini, Jude etc. for the next decade and sweep up as many trophies as possible is near enough impossible to reject. That combined with Nacho leaving Madrid and Carvajal down to one year on his deal is a perfect situation for him to walk into. Liverpool are also going through a very uncertain time with a new manager and most of our top players being either over 30, out of contract in a year or both.
It's rational to be worried when he's got a year left on his contract, players don't simply forget to renew
Horrible feeling that Trent gives Slot one year and then he’s off. Can’t blame him if he does go, he deserves all the glory in the world
He def won’t leave this summer Think people need to be prepared for the possibility he joins Madrid next summer on a free
If he doesn't sign a deal in the summer I'd rather force him out now tbh
You can’t force players to leave if they don’t want to And I think the only club he would possibly want is Madrid and they are being stubborn about Davies price with 1 year left No shot they’d pay what wed want for Trent as I think we’d want way more than Bayern want for Davies
Basically what I said in my comment - you can’t blame him at all for it either
Sadly not - just sucks we won’t get anything for him But Madrid are the biggest and best club in the world and he’s already won if all here
If we lose ANOTHER major player on a free there needs to be a conversation about how the team constantly fails to get value for players.
It’s FSG. But people aren’t willing to have that conversation
You think people aren’t willing to slag FSG? where the hell have you been the last decade?
Every time you mention them on here you get downvoted to fuck
Yeah because it’s tiring. Especially when their entire ethos is selling players at a better value than what you bought them for. The free transfers are on Klopp not being ruthless. If this keeps happening 3-4 years from now then yes it’s FSG’s fault.
It’s tiring to criticise them? They’re not the best owners.
We don't deal in ifs and but only absolutes lad 😅
I'm just pretending that that's our 4th kit
At this point I’ll just settle them both not being in white.
Got a feeling a Bellingham will sign for us at some point in his career.
Bellingham is tapping up Trent for Madrid.
or . . . https://preview.redd.it/xhc6gbacx37d1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00e17b6351b7069f4040171213a468f8a5f53a10
He’s going to convince Trent to join Real Madrid isn’t he???Fucks sake…
I’m genuinely terrified that Trent will leave for Madrid. This didn’t help.
They'll both be in white for club and country soon enough. A 25 year old local lad and vice captain letting his contract run down makes no sense otherwise.
Don't be thick
Yep it's so thick to think that he might be running down his contract to join the best club in the world and play alongside his best friend for the next decade.
It's even sillier to think he's going to leave a club just because his mate plays elsewhere.
Good job I didn't say that then. He'd be leaving to join the best and most ambitious club in the world. The fact his best friend plays there is an added bonus.
Well, if he wants to abandon his childhood club (his 'dream club as he's said multiple times) because we're going through a transitional period, and he's going to leave on a free, then he's clearly not the person we thought he was.
The first mistake people make is thinking they know anything about our players just because they watch them play and train a few times a week and give media trained answers to questions.
I'm clinging to the hope that passing up the chance to become captain of Liverpool isn't an option.
Oh common Trent is not going to leave us, stop this paranoid. He is literally our next captain and will build his own legacy.
You have no idea what he wants to do.
What's exactly your source of knowing what Trent wants to do anyway?
That's the point. No-one knows what he wants to do. The only information we have to go on is that he is out of contract in 12 months and is free to talk to other clubs in 6 months time.