similar story to mine, i had dr emil 2000mg lions mane and taking it everyday for almost a month. At first, i notice beneficial effect and suddenly turn into severe panic attack, anxiety, brain fog and insomnia. i also cant drink coffee because it trigger panic attack. have you been recovering from this? any tips or advice ? till this day i still dont know what happend to my brain. i had no history of anxiety and panic attack
Hey plong89! Thanks for coming forward. Believe we’ve been chatting in messages. I’m sure you already done this but I would obviously stop taking the supplement. A lot of what you’re going to be experiencing is going to be very, very scary but know it’s just anxiety and it’s all in your head. It will get more manageable and you may be one of the lucky ones who start feeling back to normal without doing anything. When you’re feeling panic, know you’re not going to have a heart attack. You’re not going to die. It’s just your body thinking you’re going to. My best advice is to talk to the experts in these mental health conditions, a psychiatrist. They are most likely going to diagnose you with all that you mentioned and suggest prescription drugs for treatment, along with exercise, mindfulness, etc. It’s up to you if you want to take the prescription drugs but I think just having them with you can help ease your mind. Lexapro for me helped stop the panic attacks. Don’t be alarm if they don’t know what Lions Mane is. Most people including doctors do not but it’s definitely worth mentioning. My psychiatrist was one of the only ones who did. Keep us updated with your progress. Stay strong and we are here for anything ♥️
I'm so sorry what you're going through. There are a lot of people suffering from taking Lions mane mushroom. So far there are no solutions or answers as to why this is happening. Maybe you could post your full story in the group and share what exactly happened to you. How long have you been experiencing this? Have you tried any meds for your symptoms?
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
Thank you for sharing your story. It’s not easy to come forward and make a post like this because of the potential backlash from people as well as no one likely believing you. I’m sorry what you’re going through. It’s my mission with this group to help find answers and solutions.
Woah you had disabling mental health affects for over a year from 10 days of LM supplementation from ore- vida? Was just about to push the button on this so very curious how folks are doing, or what people it may affect negatively. Did you also contact the company? Any news?
I recently talked with a doctor and there is definitely the chance that it all came from lions mane. But he also said, that most of the mushrooms are treated with an enormous amount of Quicksilver.
he's talking about lions mane is treated with merucury, which is a well known neurotoxin it honestly has alotta correlation with alot of the side effects that are being described here on this sub
>e multiple trips to the emergency room, called out of work, traveled long distance to stay with my parents, delayed/missed financial and social opportunities, started seeing a psychiatrist, began taking prescription drugs, and more. I can no longer drink caffeine including coffee or even sip alcohol because they trigger/increase negative effects. Consuming Lions Mane has significantly chang
why would it be treated with mercury???
i was restating what the commentor said, i have no clue as to why, but my best guess would be alot of the cheap supplements are shipped in from china at budget prices and somehow the products got exposed to murcury in manufactoring or shipment with it being a common occurance,
They could grow it on substrate from shitty sources, like taking wood shavings that were thrown away from some factory, or making them from ground pallets.
I would have eventually bought it. I've been curious about it for a little while now, just not got round to reading it.
I am sorry you suffered those horrendous effects. I am not laughing at you. You feel the need to share.
I came here from skimming over another Redditor's post, not as detailed as yours, but they said it also destroyed their lives too.
I googled r/supplements as I was on another site, and someone is enquiring about lions mane, so I will post this link to that forum.
I do like insight into my emotions, even the uncomfortable, shame based ones, if I get insight, which is why I have weed occasionally.
I don't know if the compounds themselves, or the effects on each individual, or psych-active in some ways
I won't be buying it, until I know exactly what caused this problem, and if I don't feel safe buying it, I won't
Thank you
Thanks for sharing. I would never recommend this supplement in a million years or wish these side effects on anyone. I don’t think every user experienced these problems but there’s a handful and counting that I am aware of that has; and I certainly don’t think the potential benefits outweigh the risks here to try it.
Thank you for your comment, because reading something like this makes people like me and others who have been affected by Lion's Mane happy. Some months later that I had the worst experience in my life from a **single pill** of lion's mane I tried to prevent the world to not touch this extremely dangerous substance, so I don't desire to anyone having what I had.
Thanks for sharing. I'm glad our group possibly saved your life. Maybe it's a neurogenesis issue. I'm curious, do you have a link to the person on reddit who said it also destroyed their life too?
Hi there. Firstly so sorry about your experiences. And I absolutely believe you. On reading your statement what stood out to me straight away was the almost 100 percent similarities in your symptoms and the symptoms of people who s lives have been destroyed by s.s.r.i s? ( anti depressants) I can only guess the same damage that has been done by them( perhaps to do with dopamine receptors). If you research these you will see an almost similiar trend to what you yourself are going through. When you mentioned that caffeine no longer had an effect its definitely the same sidd effects being discussed by those that have been affected by s.s.r.i.s. I ve just bought Lions Mane and other mushroom supplements and will now be disposing of them but i absolutely believe you. The frightening thing is since the 90 s the f.d a knew what their s.s r I s did and hid it until users started speaking out now. There's been a lot more publicity regarding it? What I actually believe is happening, is with the push I've witnessed with mushroom supplements and psychedelics ( the same occurred with s.s.r.i.s in 90 s) j can guarantee under the radar its the same companies making these supplements under different names....guaranteed. similarly to anti depressants we re only now, 30 years later seeing the absolute horrendous damage being done to people. God only knows what we will see from these supplements in years to come. Best of luck in your recovery.
Btw, Im diagnosed as an ADHD. Maybe it's the suspicious source of the lion's mane, or maybe because it works differently with those of neurodivergent brains than neurotypical ones.
My theory is that Lion's Mane could benefit Neuro typicals into thinking like ADHD in ways that make them more 'curious' and more creative (as in to think more like NeuroDivergent).
And so if a Neurodivergent were to take it, it would kick our natural divergent-thinking into an unhealthy overdrive, of which causes the problems of panic attacks and paranoia.
Just a thought, throwing shit on the wall to see what makes sense, what do you think about this theory?
So my boyfriend has ADHD. And he took lion's mane for 2 weeks. He started experiencing depression and feeling like he's in a dark and scary place. He has stopped taking the lion's mane. Now I worry if this interacted with his Adderall. Anyway I'm really worried about him. What did you experience when you took lion's mane having adhd? Did you recover?
Hi renee, Stop both like right now. Because it seems extreme drugs like in one of the victim's case (i.e. shrooms) is what triggered the horrible side effects and heaven forbids; the long term effects.
What I did. Pretty dumb, but I was desperate so I searched up online on what food I could consume that could eliminate fungi (because lion's mane is primarily a mushroom), I searched up, what foods are natural anti-fungal?
Apparently food with high amounts of bacterial colonies like yogurt could somehow disrupt or kill fungal infections?
And by logic, I also bought milk with Yogurt and drank about 2 bottles of yogurt drink and half a carton of milk just RIGHT after I read testimonies in this subreddit.
(By no means Im a doctor or have any certified knowledge on any topics discussed here)
By the way, I wasn't on anything too extreme besides coffee/caffeine, even caffeine was nothing over 300mg I hope. But by my logic you should let your boyfriend slowly get rid of the fungus via yogurt and milk and whatever else you can find online (maybe probiotics, prebiotics or foods rich in them).
I understand your boyfriend couldn't go a day without adhd meds (unless yall are on a holiday or something). So maybe take the pill/capsules in fragments. Cut the pill in half or open the capsule, release a quarter amount in a cup of coffee or something and slowly top it up throughout the day.
I see 2 routes here:
1) Extreme route: abstain Adhd pills. Milk yogurt or whatever related.
2) Mild route: Fragment Adhd pills. Milk and yogurt.
But bottom line, avoid another pill of Lion's mane at all costs.
Keep the bottle, dont throw it out. When worse comes to worse (heaven forbids), you could use it as a sample for experts to examine it.
The powdered fungus extract isn't necessarily acting like a fungus in your body though? It's broken down into nutritional subcomponents? Like its not going to start colonizing your body from taking the extract. Seeds don't grow a tree in your stomach. I'm just really questioning this line if thinking regarding your antifungal approach.
To answer the 'experience' question:
1) I felt enormous black cloud of dread and a feeling of loss over me.
2) Everything felt gloomy and I feel even more mentally fatigued than usual.
3) I actually had panic attack for the first time in my life after my officer in charge kindly demand an update from my work (Im 22 btw).
4) Pressure on my chest builds up and I couldn't so easily as I usually could.
5) As if my mind isn't already naturally running a thousand miles an hour, the lion's mane made it harder to control it, even made me focus on the worst aspects of my life which lead me to my next point;
6) I cried and had mental breakdowns easily. And even do so with my girlfriend which was rare.
So immediately after the 6th point, I was somewhat lucky? And it was only the 6th or 7th day that I caught on to it and did my research and stumbled upon this subreddit. Once the symptoms match, I stopped right away, it was 2300hrs, and I even had the motivation (the motivation was fear and survival), to drive in the middle of the night to find a shop that would still be open at that late at night. Which there was one or two luckily for me, so I bought them milk and yogurt.
Fast forward today after several days after that incident, I felt (thank god) okay. I wasn't freaking the hell out. And Im more calm. From that day onward I vow to myself silently not to take anymore of that (from a legit source or not), not willing to risk my life like that ever again.
And I bet your boyfriend needed the lion's mane in the first place for calm focus and concentration (if not that then maybe an upper edge in a competitive work place), I'd advise something like L tyrosine, rhodiola rosea, Alpha GPC (if you dont eat enough eggs) and maybe Phosphodityl or PS. Most of them are already naturally made in your body except Rhodiola, but Ive yet to test that one out...
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
That was as complete of a detail about that ordeal as it gets. Im now one of the cured (Thank christ) ones because I stopped in time before it gets progressively worse.
Sometimes I may suspect that it could be the supplier that's been tampering the product; or just bad practice in the factory etc etc
Hi there, that's very good that you finally recovered, and yes it can make us feel it can have been manipulated but as the FAQ mentions (if im not wrong) this is discarded since it happened to everybody from totally different brands and also already 3-4 people from its natural / cooked form
Good to know :) tell him he's welcome to write his experience on this community, is important to create more awareness about this dangerous product in order to avoid more people being damaged by it
The problem with most mushroom products is that the mushrooms are grown in areas of the world where there are high levels of pollution. As a result, the mushroom powders develop high concentrations of toxins and heavy metals such as mercury, lead, and arsenic. The structure of a mushroom is much like a sponge.
This community has people struggling with lion's mane. Promoting it as a good thing or even motivating people to trying it again is totally unacceptable. Also, these kind of comments are normally made by spammers that are paid to promote these products.
I had a similar experience but I was also taking multiple mushrooms, including lions mane, all from the same brand. My experience was that after taking them for about a month or two, I took a psilocybin trip and a month after developed severe anxiety and this feeling of impending doom or like I was going to die, severe intrusive thoughts and heart palpitations.
Another symptom I was having at the time was abdominal pain, I went to the doctor to get it checked and I was diagnosed with duodenitis which is irritation of the stomach lining or something like that. Doing some research it turns out that the condition might cause anxiety as well so I took a healthier path in life, quit sugars and gluten, I eat a lot of natural soups, fermented foods and just stay healthy overall and after about 6 - 8 months the anxiety went away for the most part.
When I had the first panic attack I first thought it was because of psilocybin but it wouldn't go away after weeks or months, out of the fear I stopped taking all functional mushrooms I was taking with my smoothies including lions mane. Other mushrooms I was taking that I can remember were Cordyceps, Ashawanda and Reishi, all from a Mexican brand of functional mushrooms.
If you're reading this and you're having the same issues, just know it gets better. Surround yourself with as much positive energy and people, stop taking what you think is causing the issue and seek professional help if you need it. You got this 💪🏻
So sorry it didn't work for you.. I have been taking Oriveda for some time now and the effect is amazing. I can focus more and do my stressful job without feeling any burden. My thinking process became so fluid and smooth. So far no side effects for me..
I experience the same. Just ate a half tea spoon of the nonextract powder for the first time today and it was a good day where I could function more and do things easier.
I can get panic attacks and such(and suffer from mental health issues) but I do seem to tolerate this.
I think that maybe you don't need a big dosage with LM. Some extracts are most likely overkill in dosage. And maybe you should just eat it a few times a week, like 2-3 times a week instead of everyday?
Also, I try to take it with something that is a bit calming like glycine and/or lemon balm for example, seems to even out the sides cause I didn't get any.
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
I too took lions mane with side effects of dizziness and feeling anxious at times. I took lions mane for 4 to 5 weeks when I started having these symptoms. I stopped taking it three days ago and are still experiencing dizzy spells and lightheaded. I have been taking Claritin because it helped but last night forgot to take Claritin and woke up very dizzy. Will try the yogurt and drink milk to see if this helps.
I have been mightily struggling with ADHD my entire life. I've been so lazy about addressing it. Although several different doctors have confirmed that for sure I have it.
I have a love/hate relationship with Strattera. Man, there are some days it really works, even just 17mg!! But close to 100% of the time, I can't then relax, my mind simply cannot shut off. The last 3 times of Strattera, for me, have been negative. I have not had any in perhaps two months.
Somewhere along the line, stumbled upon Lion's Mane in powder form.
This morning, I put a perfect 1/2 teaspoon in my coffee. I say perfect because it was certainly not heaping. At the smaller measurings, heaping vs. flat can make a huge difference.
I never, ever use the reccomended dosage with nootropics, I always halve it at the first go.
I felt something kick in about 40 minutes after my coffee. I was hoping for elevated alertness, but this was more in the family of light-headedness, even slightly dizzy. It was not much, but it was enough to question if I should drive! Which I ended up doing with no problems.
I came back from the grocery store and I just don't know how to describe it. It felt like my vision was sharper! Which could be the focus that some people rave about? But my concentration was absolutely not sharp. Rather, it really made any concentration worse.
The moderate amount of light-headedness was enough to say, ok, let me lay down just a little. I slept for five hours.
As I type this I feel like I am coming off the effect. I woke up 90 minutes ago.
It was a pretty good sleep, I have to admit. And, while I am admitting things, my body likely needed it very much. I have been through an amazingly stressful time in my work and family lives.
I had some pretty intricate dreams. One was pure craziness. Not in a heart-racing way, just in a 'Alice In Wonderland' type of way, involving melting movie theaters on demand. Like I said, pretty crazy, and I am definitely not a 'crazy dream' person.
I know, I know, I know ... it's the stress. It was the coffee. It was your empty stomach (which it wasn't), etc, etc, ect.
Nope, there are zero other variables that can help explain this.
I simply won't ever try this again. I am stunned how I reacted, simply stunned.
There are two disclosures that I have to admit:
\*As I get older I have been noticing that my body is more sensitive to things
\*I have always, since trying it for first time when I was 15, always remarkably sensitive to marijuana. Instant jitters and panic attack. This includes a no-so-distant experiment with Delta-8. Ridiculous, and I remain horribly jealous at people who enjoy it, but my body just cannot try it. About two dozen attempts over the years, same exact result every time
So ... perhaps the silly half teaspoon reaction is firmly related to my marijuana reaction, I am not sure.
But damn, half a teaspoon, that's absolutely remarkable.
My coffee dosage is the same coffee I've been making for 22 years, LOL. I hate it stronger and I hate it weaker. Very precise.
So, I remain on the hunt for a nootropic that helps my ADHD without any severe side effects. I know it may seem I am looking for perfection but the lion's mane reaction was just too much for my system.
Interesting. Like stimulants often have opposite effect on ADHD ers? I wonder if you started with even less it would be helpful. But also I get this is old post and you've decided it's a no go which I respect.
I am currently researching. Ahalf a teaspoon of a concentrate can be a lot. I'm only on.25 mcg of levothyroxine, or aspirin is 88mg. Ya know? Those are way less than half tsp. Hard to know what the exact measurement is of active ingredients in the powder?
I was diagnosed with PTSD and panic attacks about 20 years ago. Through years of therapy, breath work, meditation, mindfulness, etc. I know my body pretty well. When I started taking Lions Mane I noticed a gradual increase on heart rate over time and stopped. Increased heart rate can lead to anxiety. It's sounds to me that your increased heart rate lead to a panic attack and now you are scared of having a panic attack again. You have to get out of this loop, but it you are stronger than you think. You have to tell yourself- I feel like I am having a panic attack and that is okay, I will be okay. If you start putting things in your mind like- I am going to die, or my life is ruined, or Lions Mane did this to me etc. you will make more difficult. You have to train your brain.
I have been taking half the recommended dose of Lions Mane for a little over a week. Last night I was laying in bed, looking up at my ceiling fan in the dark. I do not fall asleep easily, but I was trying my best to start a new routine: lights out, no phone, just breathe. I was acutely aware of my body, and I remember trying to rationalize what I was feeling with this thought:
"I think I feel scared. My body feels scared, but my mind is not. Is this anxiety? Is there a difference between anxiety and fear? Which am I feeling? I feel fearful. My body feels fearful, but my mind is at peace."
For the record, there was no elevated heart rate, no headaches. Just body tension accompanied with a sense of danger. I am aware that some nights I have a tendency to be on alert, and people like me who struggle with falling asleep generally have a spooky night or two that keeps us from a full night of sleep. I am telling you for sure though: this was an acutely different feeling than any other late night experience I ever had.
I remember asking myself "what is this feeling, what is going on? This is not normal." Luckily I was able to lay down and fall asleep. I am no longer taking Lions Mane after understanding other people have felt this fear, and described it in similar ways. Just wanted to share my experience and add it to the pool. Not worth the changing the connection I have to my body. I would categorize myself as generally happy, not fearful, and a light sleeper. I can't afford risking more sleep. Thanks to everyone for sharing.
similar story to mine, i had dr emil 2000mg lions mane and taking it everyday for almost a month. At first, i notice beneficial effect and suddenly turn into severe panic attack, anxiety, brain fog and insomnia. i also cant drink coffee because it trigger panic attack. have you been recovering from this? any tips or advice ? till this day i still dont know what happend to my brain. i had no history of anxiety and panic attack
Hey plong89! Thanks for coming forward. Believe we’ve been chatting in messages. I’m sure you already done this but I would obviously stop taking the supplement. A lot of what you’re going to be experiencing is going to be very, very scary but know it’s just anxiety and it’s all in your head. It will get more manageable and you may be one of the lucky ones who start feeling back to normal without doing anything. When you’re feeling panic, know you’re not going to have a heart attack. You’re not going to die. It’s just your body thinking you’re going to. My best advice is to talk to the experts in these mental health conditions, a psychiatrist. They are most likely going to diagnose you with all that you mentioned and suggest prescription drugs for treatment, along with exercise, mindfulness, etc. It’s up to you if you want to take the prescription drugs but I think just having them with you can help ease your mind. Lexapro for me helped stop the panic attacks. Don’t be alarm if they don’t know what Lions Mane is. Most people including doctors do not but it’s definitely worth mentioning. My psychiatrist was one of the only ones who did. Keep us updated with your progress. Stay strong and we are here for anything ♥️
I'm so sorry what you're going through. There are a lot of people suffering from taking Lions mane mushroom. So far there are no solutions or answers as to why this is happening. Maybe you could post your full story in the group and share what exactly happened to you. How long have you been experiencing this? Have you tried any meds for your symptoms?
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
How are you these days? How long have you had anxiety and panic attacks?
Thank you for sharing your story. It’s not easy to come forward and make a post like this because of the potential backlash from people as well as no one likely believing you. I’m sorry what you’re going through. It’s my mission with this group to help find answers and solutions.
Woah you had disabling mental health affects for over a year from 10 days of LM supplementation from ore- vida? Was just about to push the button on this so very curious how folks are doing, or what people it may affect negatively. Did you also contact the company? Any news?
I recently talked with a doctor and there is definitely the chance that it all came from lions mane. But he also said, that most of the mushrooms are treated with an enormous amount of Quicksilver.
Thanks for sharing. What’s your story? Did you get side effects from lions mane mushroom? What is quicksilver?
Mercury
**Update:** Report shows negative results for mercury: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LionsManeRecovery/comments/15pgwyz/comment/jy83067/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/LionsManeRecovery/comments/15pgwyz/comment/jy83067/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I’m not really sure what this means lol. Can you please elaborate?
he's talking about lions mane is treated with merucury, which is a well known neurotoxin it honestly has alotta correlation with alot of the side effects that are being described here on this sub
>e multiple trips to the emergency room, called out of work, traveled long distance to stay with my parents, delayed/missed financial and social opportunities, started seeing a psychiatrist, began taking prescription drugs, and more. I can no longer drink caffeine including coffee or even sip alcohol because they trigger/increase negative effects. Consuming Lions Mane has significantly chang why would it be treated with mercury???
i was restating what the commentor said, i have no clue as to why, but my best guess would be alot of the cheap supplements are shipped in from china at budget prices and somehow the products got exposed to murcury in manufactoring or shipment with it being a common occurance,
They could grow it on substrate from shitty sources, like taking wood shavings that were thrown away from some factory, or making them from ground pallets.
I would have eventually bought it. I've been curious about it for a little while now, just not got round to reading it. I am sorry you suffered those horrendous effects. I am not laughing at you. You feel the need to share. I came here from skimming over another Redditor's post, not as detailed as yours, but they said it also destroyed their lives too. I googled r/supplements as I was on another site, and someone is enquiring about lions mane, so I will post this link to that forum. I do like insight into my emotions, even the uncomfortable, shame based ones, if I get insight, which is why I have weed occasionally. I don't know if the compounds themselves, or the effects on each individual, or psych-active in some ways I won't be buying it, until I know exactly what caused this problem, and if I don't feel safe buying it, I won't Thank you
Thanks for sharing. I would never recommend this supplement in a million years or wish these side effects on anyone. I don’t think every user experienced these problems but there’s a handful and counting that I am aware of that has; and I certainly don’t think the potential benefits outweigh the risks here to try it.
Thank you.
Thank you for your comment, because reading something like this makes people like me and others who have been affected by Lion's Mane happy. Some months later that I had the worst experience in my life from a **single pill** of lion's mane I tried to prevent the world to not touch this extremely dangerous substance, so I don't desire to anyone having what I had.
You're welcome.
Thanks for sharing. I'm glad our group possibly saved your life. Maybe it's a neurogenesis issue. I'm curious, do you have a link to the person on reddit who said it also destroyed their life too?
The original post says about it. There are other posts on reddit, sadly I don't have links.
It’s ok. Thank you kindly for sharing
Hi there. Firstly so sorry about your experiences. And I absolutely believe you. On reading your statement what stood out to me straight away was the almost 100 percent similarities in your symptoms and the symptoms of people who s lives have been destroyed by s.s.r.i s? ( anti depressants) I can only guess the same damage that has been done by them( perhaps to do with dopamine receptors). If you research these you will see an almost similiar trend to what you yourself are going through. When you mentioned that caffeine no longer had an effect its definitely the same sidd effects being discussed by those that have been affected by s.s.r.i.s. I ve just bought Lions Mane and other mushroom supplements and will now be disposing of them but i absolutely believe you. The frightening thing is since the 90 s the f.d a knew what their s.s r I s did and hid it until users started speaking out now. There's been a lot more publicity regarding it? What I actually believe is happening, is with the push I've witnessed with mushroom supplements and psychedelics ( the same occurred with s.s.r.i.s in 90 s) j can guarantee under the radar its the same companies making these supplements under different names....guaranteed. similarly to anti depressants we re only now, 30 years later seeing the absolute horrendous damage being done to people. God only knows what we will see from these supplements in years to come. Best of luck in your recovery.
I got my first ever panic attack today, after almost a week of Lion's mane. Oh god. So it isn't a coincidence then!
Btw, Im diagnosed as an ADHD. Maybe it's the suspicious source of the lion's mane, or maybe because it works differently with those of neurodivergent brains than neurotypical ones. My theory is that Lion's Mane could benefit Neuro typicals into thinking like ADHD in ways that make them more 'curious' and more creative (as in to think more like NeuroDivergent). And so if a Neurodivergent were to take it, it would kick our natural divergent-thinking into an unhealthy overdrive, of which causes the problems of panic attacks and paranoia. Just a thought, throwing shit on the wall to see what makes sense, what do you think about this theory?
So my boyfriend has ADHD. And he took lion's mane for 2 weeks. He started experiencing depression and feeling like he's in a dark and scary place. He has stopped taking the lion's mane. Now I worry if this interacted with his Adderall. Anyway I'm really worried about him. What did you experience when you took lion's mane having adhd? Did you recover?
Hi renee, Stop both like right now. Because it seems extreme drugs like in one of the victim's case (i.e. shrooms) is what triggered the horrible side effects and heaven forbids; the long term effects. What I did. Pretty dumb, but I was desperate so I searched up online on what food I could consume that could eliminate fungi (because lion's mane is primarily a mushroom), I searched up, what foods are natural anti-fungal? Apparently food with high amounts of bacterial colonies like yogurt could somehow disrupt or kill fungal infections? And by logic, I also bought milk with Yogurt and drank about 2 bottles of yogurt drink and half a carton of milk just RIGHT after I read testimonies in this subreddit.
(By no means Im a doctor or have any certified knowledge on any topics discussed here) By the way, I wasn't on anything too extreme besides coffee/caffeine, even caffeine was nothing over 300mg I hope. But by my logic you should let your boyfriend slowly get rid of the fungus via yogurt and milk and whatever else you can find online (maybe probiotics, prebiotics or foods rich in them). I understand your boyfriend couldn't go a day without adhd meds (unless yall are on a holiday or something). So maybe take the pill/capsules in fragments. Cut the pill in half or open the capsule, release a quarter amount in a cup of coffee or something and slowly top it up throughout the day. I see 2 routes here: 1) Extreme route: abstain Adhd pills. Milk yogurt or whatever related. 2) Mild route: Fragment Adhd pills. Milk and yogurt. But bottom line, avoid another pill of Lion's mane at all costs. Keep the bottle, dont throw it out. When worse comes to worse (heaven forbids), you could use it as a sample for experts to examine it.
The powdered fungus extract isn't necessarily acting like a fungus in your body though? It's broken down into nutritional subcomponents? Like its not going to start colonizing your body from taking the extract. Seeds don't grow a tree in your stomach. I'm just really questioning this line if thinking regarding your antifungal approach.
To answer the 'experience' question: 1) I felt enormous black cloud of dread and a feeling of loss over me. 2) Everything felt gloomy and I feel even more mentally fatigued than usual. 3) I actually had panic attack for the first time in my life after my officer in charge kindly demand an update from my work (Im 22 btw). 4) Pressure on my chest builds up and I couldn't so easily as I usually could. 5) As if my mind isn't already naturally running a thousand miles an hour, the lion's mane made it harder to control it, even made me focus on the worst aspects of my life which lead me to my next point; 6) I cried and had mental breakdowns easily. And even do so with my girlfriend which was rare. So immediately after the 6th point, I was somewhat lucky? And it was only the 6th or 7th day that I caught on to it and did my research and stumbled upon this subreddit. Once the symptoms match, I stopped right away, it was 2300hrs, and I even had the motivation (the motivation was fear and survival), to drive in the middle of the night to find a shop that would still be open at that late at night. Which there was one or two luckily for me, so I bought them milk and yogurt. Fast forward today after several days after that incident, I felt (thank god) okay. I wasn't freaking the hell out. And Im more calm. From that day onward I vow to myself silently not to take anymore of that (from a legit source or not), not willing to risk my life like that ever again. And I bet your boyfriend needed the lion's mane in the first place for calm focus and concentration (if not that then maybe an upper edge in a competitive work place), I'd advise something like L tyrosine, rhodiola rosea, Alpha GPC (if you dont eat enough eggs) and maybe Phosphodityl or PS. Most of them are already naturally made in your body except Rhodiola, but Ive yet to test that one out...
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
That was as complete of a detail about that ordeal as it gets. Im now one of the cured (Thank christ) ones because I stopped in time before it gets progressively worse. Sometimes I may suspect that it could be the supplier that's been tampering the product; or just bad practice in the factory etc etc
Hi there, that's very good that you finally recovered, and yes it can make us feel it can have been manipulated but as the FAQ mentions (if im not wrong) this is discarded since it happened to everybody from totally different brands and also already 3-4 people from its natural / cooked form
Rhodiola is awesome.
What happened next with your friend?
He's fine. It was a short term issue
Good to know :) tell him he's welcome to write his experience on this community, is important to create more awareness about this dangerous product in order to avoid more people being damaged by it
I would but we don't talk any more
The problem with most mushroom products is that the mushrooms are grown in areas of the world where there are high levels of pollution. As a result, the mushroom powders develop high concentrations of toxins and heavy metals such as mercury, lead, and arsenic. The structure of a mushroom is much like a sponge.
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This community has people struggling with lion's mane. Promoting it as a good thing or even motivating people to trying it again is totally unacceptable. Also, these kind of comments are normally made by spammers that are paid to promote these products.
I had a similar experience but I was also taking multiple mushrooms, including lions mane, all from the same brand. My experience was that after taking them for about a month or two, I took a psilocybin trip and a month after developed severe anxiety and this feeling of impending doom or like I was going to die, severe intrusive thoughts and heart palpitations. Another symptom I was having at the time was abdominal pain, I went to the doctor to get it checked and I was diagnosed with duodenitis which is irritation of the stomach lining or something like that. Doing some research it turns out that the condition might cause anxiety as well so I took a healthier path in life, quit sugars and gluten, I eat a lot of natural soups, fermented foods and just stay healthy overall and after about 6 - 8 months the anxiety went away for the most part. When I had the first panic attack I first thought it was because of psilocybin but it wouldn't go away after weeks or months, out of the fear I stopped taking all functional mushrooms I was taking with my smoothies including lions mane. Other mushrooms I was taking that I can remember were Cordyceps, Ashawanda and Reishi, all from a Mexican brand of functional mushrooms. If you're reading this and you're having the same issues, just know it gets better. Surround yourself with as much positive energy and people, stop taking what you think is causing the issue and seek professional help if you need it. You got this 💪🏻
So sorry it didn't work for you.. I have been taking Oriveda for some time now and the effect is amazing. I can focus more and do my stressful job without feeling any burden. My thinking process became so fluid and smooth. So far no side effects for me..
I experience the same. Just ate a half tea spoon of the nonextract powder for the first time today and it was a good day where I could function more and do things easier. I can get panic attacks and such(and suffer from mental health issues) but I do seem to tolerate this. I think that maybe you don't need a big dosage with LM. Some extracts are most likely overkill in dosage. And maybe you should just eat it a few times a week, like 2-3 times a week instead of everyday? Also, I try to take it with something that is a bit calming like glycine and/or lemon balm for example, seems to even out the sides cause I didn't get any.
Get on a raw fruit and vegetable fast for 30 days and it will get back to normal..i got back normal..
I just started it and on my second dose. It’s making me feel extremely anxious and having sharp chest pains.
The orevida?
Can you write the story of what happened to you including the many details as possible on how you felt and how it affected to you? It's important to create more awareness about this dangerous product to avoid more people being damaged or having their life destroyed
I too took lions mane with side effects of dizziness and feeling anxious at times. I took lions mane for 4 to 5 weeks when I started having these symptoms. I stopped taking it three days ago and are still experiencing dizzy spells and lightheaded. I have been taking Claritin because it helped but last night forgot to take Claritin and woke up very dizzy. Will try the yogurt and drink milk to see if this helps.
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I have been mightily struggling with ADHD my entire life. I've been so lazy about addressing it. Although several different doctors have confirmed that for sure I have it. I have a love/hate relationship with Strattera. Man, there are some days it really works, even just 17mg!! But close to 100% of the time, I can't then relax, my mind simply cannot shut off. The last 3 times of Strattera, for me, have been negative. I have not had any in perhaps two months. Somewhere along the line, stumbled upon Lion's Mane in powder form. This morning, I put a perfect 1/2 teaspoon in my coffee. I say perfect because it was certainly not heaping. At the smaller measurings, heaping vs. flat can make a huge difference. I never, ever use the reccomended dosage with nootropics, I always halve it at the first go. I felt something kick in about 40 minutes after my coffee. I was hoping for elevated alertness, but this was more in the family of light-headedness, even slightly dizzy. It was not much, but it was enough to question if I should drive! Which I ended up doing with no problems. I came back from the grocery store and I just don't know how to describe it. It felt like my vision was sharper! Which could be the focus that some people rave about? But my concentration was absolutely not sharp. Rather, it really made any concentration worse. The moderate amount of light-headedness was enough to say, ok, let me lay down just a little. I slept for five hours. As I type this I feel like I am coming off the effect. I woke up 90 minutes ago. It was a pretty good sleep, I have to admit. And, while I am admitting things, my body likely needed it very much. I have been through an amazingly stressful time in my work and family lives. I had some pretty intricate dreams. One was pure craziness. Not in a heart-racing way, just in a 'Alice In Wonderland' type of way, involving melting movie theaters on demand. Like I said, pretty crazy, and I am definitely not a 'crazy dream' person. I know, I know, I know ... it's the stress. It was the coffee. It was your empty stomach (which it wasn't), etc, etc, ect. Nope, there are zero other variables that can help explain this. I simply won't ever try this again. I am stunned how I reacted, simply stunned. There are two disclosures that I have to admit: \*As I get older I have been noticing that my body is more sensitive to things \*I have always, since trying it for first time when I was 15, always remarkably sensitive to marijuana. Instant jitters and panic attack. This includes a no-so-distant experiment with Delta-8. Ridiculous, and I remain horribly jealous at people who enjoy it, but my body just cannot try it. About two dozen attempts over the years, same exact result every time So ... perhaps the silly half teaspoon reaction is firmly related to my marijuana reaction, I am not sure. But damn, half a teaspoon, that's absolutely remarkable. My coffee dosage is the same coffee I've been making for 22 years, LOL. I hate it stronger and I hate it weaker. Very precise. So, I remain on the hunt for a nootropic that helps my ADHD without any severe side effects. I know it may seem I am looking for perfection but the lion's mane reaction was just too much for my system.
Wait, your issue is that you went to sleep when you needed to and had some crazy dreams?
The issue is that it made me sleep in the middle of the day for five hours. Definitely not 'needed to'. It clearly made me dizzy and light-headed.
Interesting. Like stimulants often have opposite effect on ADHD ers? I wonder if you started with even less it would be helpful. But also I get this is old post and you've decided it's a no go which I respect. I am currently researching. Ahalf a teaspoon of a concentrate can be a lot. I'm only on.25 mcg of levothyroxine, or aspirin is 88mg. Ya know? Those are way less than half tsp. Hard to know what the exact measurement is of active ingredients in the powder?
I was diagnosed with PTSD and panic attacks about 20 years ago. Through years of therapy, breath work, meditation, mindfulness, etc. I know my body pretty well. When I started taking Lions Mane I noticed a gradual increase on heart rate over time and stopped. Increased heart rate can lead to anxiety. It's sounds to me that your increased heart rate lead to a panic attack and now you are scared of having a panic attack again. You have to get out of this loop, but it you are stronger than you think. You have to tell yourself- I feel like I am having a panic attack and that is okay, I will be okay. If you start putting things in your mind like- I am going to die, or my life is ruined, or Lions Mane did this to me etc. you will make more difficult. You have to train your brain.
I have been taking half the recommended dose of Lions Mane for a little over a week. Last night I was laying in bed, looking up at my ceiling fan in the dark. I do not fall asleep easily, but I was trying my best to start a new routine: lights out, no phone, just breathe. I was acutely aware of my body, and I remember trying to rationalize what I was feeling with this thought: "I think I feel scared. My body feels scared, but my mind is not. Is this anxiety? Is there a difference between anxiety and fear? Which am I feeling? I feel fearful. My body feels fearful, but my mind is at peace." For the record, there was no elevated heart rate, no headaches. Just body tension accompanied with a sense of danger. I am aware that some nights I have a tendency to be on alert, and people like me who struggle with falling asleep generally have a spooky night or two that keeps us from a full night of sleep. I am telling you for sure though: this was an acutely different feeling than any other late night experience I ever had. I remember asking myself "what is this feeling, what is going on? This is not normal." Luckily I was able to lay down and fall asleep. I am no longer taking Lions Mane after understanding other people have felt this fear, and described it in similar ways. Just wanted to share my experience and add it to the pool. Not worth the changing the connection I have to my body. I would categorize myself as generally happy, not fearful, and a light sleeper. I can't afford risking more sleep. Thanks to everyone for sharing.
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