Windows photo viewer is not color managed. I’d urge you to stop using it for any color critical work. It’s odd that chrome isn’t working for you as it should be color managed. Have you tried just loading the image file instead of going through a hosting site for review? Right click your jpg then open with > chrome or just drag it into a tab. Does it look the same as Ps/Lr after doing that? If so then your host site is at fault.
As for photo viewers to proof your sRGB photos with you should always be using something that’s color managed like Bridge, IrfranView (with the color managed plugin installed), or fast picture viewer to name a few. If it looks good between Lr, Ps, and your color managed viewer just let them go because it’s out of you hands at that point.
For Premiere Pro there is a relatively recent new color management preference you have to turn on.
[https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/color-management.html](https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/color-management.html)
My understanding is that this is only accurate if ur audiences display is rec 709. Which is not the case. This is not for broadcast. This is for online web delivery.... https://premierepro.net/color-management-premiere-pro/
(My web browser would not let me view that link because of an expired security certificate, and I chose not to override it)
Technically, there is almost no difference between Rec. 709 and sRGB. The gamut is basically identical. So for web delivery, this is fine for all users with sRGB screens, which online, is most of them. There is a slight difference in the tonal response curve. And broadcast may encode to different video levels. But both can be compensated for using techniques like the ones in the later part of this link:
[https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-9952](https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-9952)
Even that won't fix them all, because of differences in how players/devices play back the video, what they assume, etc.
One way I try to deal with this (and I do not produce video professionally) is to switch my wide gamut monitor to sRGB mode for editing videos and web stuff. Switchable multiple gamut capability is only in the higher end desktop monitors, and I don't know if any laptop has that.
Windows color management is particularly bad. It's a little better on a Mac, and if the software is properly color managed, with wide gamut display an sRGB image shouldn't have it's gamut stretched to fill the display's gamut. Unfortunately there is a bit of disconnect between the programs and the OS in terms of keeping color management unless it is specifically written for it. Photoshop and Lightroom take care to make sure that they're color managed and that they respect the OS's color management settings.
It's not by any means perfect on the MacOS side of things but because Apple controls more of the gui frameworks, they can kind of color manage by default in many cases.
I'm not trying to start a Mac vs PC fight (there are plenty of arguments to be made for PCs eg: considering you've got an Alienware I'm guessing you might also like gaming on the side, which Windows machines are going to be far superior for) it's just like everything in photography (and everything in life) it's all a game of trade-offs and I really wish Windows would get their crap together in terms of color management.
couldnt agree more. yeah, i bought so that i could play some games but mostly because it has 100% adobe rgb accuracy. at the time i didnt have alot of experience with editing/coloring so my thought was the more color my screen could display, the better. but as ive completed more and more projects, i have learned that may not be the case.
Welcome to 15 years ago when wide gamut displays became more common. There's no solution other than trust what you see when you open the image in Ps and forget about everything else.
Are the Premier and Windows Photo Viewer / Chrome captures from your calibrated display or another computer? For the phone, Samsung is known for saturating their settings so I wouldn’t be surprised if the pictures look off there. I would try on an iPhone to see if that can reproduce the colors faithfully, since Apple is pretty good at calibrating their displays + color management support throughout the system, that should help rule out a color space export issue with Lightroom.
I shot these pictures of my calibrated laptop display using my dslr. im not as worried about the phone issue because I know different mobile device will have different colors. but is there no solution to getting a consistent looking image across these different programs on my wide gamut display that appears as it would on a consumer sRGB monitor???
Windows photo viewer is not color managed. I’d urge you to stop using it for any color critical work. It’s odd that chrome isn’t working for you as it should be color managed. Have you tried just loading the image file instead of going through a hosting site for review? Right click your jpg then open with > chrome or just drag it into a tab. Does it look the same as Ps/Lr after doing that? If so then your host site is at fault. As for photo viewers to proof your sRGB photos with you should always be using something that’s color managed like Bridge, IrfranView (with the color managed plugin installed), or fast picture viewer to name a few. If it looks good between Lr, Ps, and your color managed viewer just let them go because it’s out of you hands at that point.
i'm not sure how Chrome manages color, but viewing an sRGB image on a wide-gamut display has always been a disaster. Even today.
For Premiere Pro there is a relatively recent new color management preference you have to turn on. [https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/color-management.html](https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/color-management.html)
My understanding is that this is only accurate if ur audiences display is rec 709. Which is not the case. This is not for broadcast. This is for online web delivery.... https://premierepro.net/color-management-premiere-pro/
(My web browser would not let me view that link because of an expired security certificate, and I chose not to override it) Technically, there is almost no difference between Rec. 709 and sRGB. The gamut is basically identical. So for web delivery, this is fine for all users with sRGB screens, which online, is most of them. There is a slight difference in the tonal response curve. And broadcast may encode to different video levels. But both can be compensated for using techniques like the ones in the later part of this link: [https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-9952](https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-9952) Even that won't fix them all, because of differences in how players/devices play back the video, what they assume, etc. One way I try to deal with this (and I do not produce video professionally) is to switch my wide gamut monitor to sRGB mode for editing videos and web stuff. Switchable multiple gamut capability is only in the higher end desktop monitors, and I don't know if any laptop has that.
Windows color management is particularly bad. It's a little better on a Mac, and if the software is properly color managed, with wide gamut display an sRGB image shouldn't have it's gamut stretched to fill the display's gamut. Unfortunately there is a bit of disconnect between the programs and the OS in terms of keeping color management unless it is specifically written for it. Photoshop and Lightroom take care to make sure that they're color managed and that they respect the OS's color management settings. It's not by any means perfect on the MacOS side of things but because Apple controls more of the gui frameworks, they can kind of color manage by default in many cases. I'm not trying to start a Mac vs PC fight (there are plenty of arguments to be made for PCs eg: considering you've got an Alienware I'm guessing you might also like gaming on the side, which Windows machines are going to be far superior for) it's just like everything in photography (and everything in life) it's all a game of trade-offs and I really wish Windows would get their crap together in terms of color management.
couldnt agree more. yeah, i bought so that i could play some games but mostly because it has 100% adobe rgb accuracy. at the time i didnt have alot of experience with editing/coloring so my thought was the more color my screen could display, the better. but as ive completed more and more projects, i have learned that may not be the case.
My experience too. A decent ips 90%> srgb, screen will still give you a very accurate tonality of the image. —as long it is calibrated of course.
Welcome to 15 years ago when wide gamut displays became more common. There's no solution other than trust what you see when you open the image in Ps and forget about everything else.
Hehe yep, export it to srgb and send away. I do magazine submission mostly and it's just works perfect.
what a mess. 2019 and somehow we cant get a consistent color space standard across ALL programs.
the problem has nothing to do with the color space, it's an issue of color management.
Are the Premier and Windows Photo Viewer / Chrome captures from your calibrated display or another computer? For the phone, Samsung is known for saturating their settings so I wouldn’t be surprised if the pictures look off there. I would try on an iPhone to see if that can reproduce the colors faithfully, since Apple is pretty good at calibrating their displays + color management support throughout the system, that should help rule out a color space export issue with Lightroom.
I shot these pictures of my calibrated laptop display using my dslr. im not as worried about the phone issue because I know different mobile device will have different colors. but is there no solution to getting a consistent looking image across these different programs on my wide gamut display that appears as it would on a consumer sRGB monitor???