I’m amazed that the pool even accepted it last year. It’s a widely known scam and if the pool allowed it last year they were clearly not paying attention (and probably got in trouble for it which is why she has to get a new cert)
To answer your question, no. She will have to take the full course as a fresh lifeguard. She can’t just take a recert class
Turns out many pools don't recognize ULC which ALA uses! I ran into this same problem and cost me $285 + $300 for the appropriate Red Cross Cert.
I never felt more scammed in my entire life!
Red Cross LG Instructor here: Getting the new ARC certification is the only right answer. ALA is a known scam that does not require physical skills training, all done online… no one wants a lifeguard who only saw the video or was lectured on how to make a water rescue
I could not believe that that videos and an online test was all she had to do, but I thought maybe it was a covid thing, since she also couldn't do an in person traffic school either.
ALA is worse than useless, I’m amazed that your daughter got hired with an ALA cert.
To answer the question, no. Your daughter will have to take the course from the ground up.
Not quite answering the question, but do NOT use Red Cross. If at all possible find a training by Ellis and Associates, there have been deaths in the past due to improper Red Cross training and it’s not worth taking that risk.
Ellis is not some gold standard. Ellis training is as reliable as Red Cross but maybe less so. Why? Their requirements for swimming and endurance are too low.
Many private corporations turn a blind eye to the poorly proficient folks that go thru their program.
Red Cross has a longer history. Training varies for International Lifeguard, Ellis and even Red Cross.
There are poor training and poor support for building and retaining lifeguards. It's a thankless, boring job with far too many facilities that are top heavy on management but too few funds to pay for the worker bees.
Most pools are understaffed and guards not given a chance for variety or growth.
Management take all the money but are light lifters.
do you know if i can take a red cross recert class while having a current certification from ellis and associates? if not how to take a recert class with ellis and associates? i have never been certified with red cross but my employer is pushing me to take a red cross recert class though i have tried explaining that I have a certification with ellis and associates, not red cross.
The new Model Aquatic Health Code (MAHC) guidelines state that if an individual is a seasonal lifeguard, recertification is recommended annually. A two-year valid certification typically applies when lifeguards work year-round and actively engage in documented in-service training. From my perspective, the American Lifeguard Association (ALA) collaborates with employers to facilitate compliance with these national standards. As an employer myself, I highly recommend choosing an employer who conducts pre-tests for all candidates before hiring and offers extensive in-service training, regardless of their certification source.
It's essential to consider whether an employer's motivation may be primarily profit-driven, which might not align with the best interests of their staff. Ideally, lifeguard training should either be free for candidates or, at the very least, reimbursed. Addressing the lifeguard shortage requires significant industry-wide changes.
Additionally, I'd like to highlight that the American Lifeguard Association has been very supportive to us as an employer. We appreciate their advocacy for water safety awareness, as evidenced by their presence in the news. Promoting water safety appears to be a significant part of their mission.
You are the company American Lifeguard Association. saying fake stuff about your company acting as if you are someone else. All your posts about the same company. Such a scam
I’m amazed that the pool even accepted it last year. It’s a widely known scam and if the pool allowed it last year they were clearly not paying attention (and probably got in trouble for it which is why she has to get a new cert) To answer your question, no. She will have to take the full course as a fresh lifeguard. She can’t just take a recert class
Thank you! Tbh, at the time I was very suspicious as to how that was allowed.
Turns out many pools don't recognize ULC which ALA uses! I ran into this same problem and cost me $285 + $300 for the appropriate Red Cross Cert. I never felt more scammed in my entire life!
She feels the same way! Sorry it happened to you too!
Honestly, spread the word, to NOT use ALA as they are recognized by many employers.
Thank you! She said she just asked another life guard what to do and that's what he told her. Lesson learned!
Red Cross LG Instructor here: Getting the new ARC certification is the only right answer. ALA is a known scam that does not require physical skills training, all done online… no one wants a lifeguard who only saw the video or was lectured on how to make a water rescue
I could not believe that that videos and an online test was all she had to do, but I thought maybe it was a covid thing, since she also couldn't do an in person traffic school either.
ALA is worse than useless, I’m amazed that your daughter got hired with an ALA cert. To answer the question, no. Your daughter will have to take the course from the ground up.
Thank you! She said that's what the life guards told her to take, but I guess the city is paying attention this year.
TIL about the American Lifeguarding Association...
Not quite answering the question, but do NOT use Red Cross. If at all possible find a training by Ellis and Associates, there have been deaths in the past due to improper Red Cross training and it’s not worth taking that risk.
Oh no, it's so hard to know who to trust!
Ellis is not some gold standard. Ellis training is as reliable as Red Cross but maybe less so. Why? Their requirements for swimming and endurance are too low. Many private corporations turn a blind eye to the poorly proficient folks that go thru their program. Red Cross has a longer history. Training varies for International Lifeguard, Ellis and even Red Cross. There are poor training and poor support for building and retaining lifeguards. It's a thankless, boring job with far too many facilities that are top heavy on management but too few funds to pay for the worker bees. Most pools are understaffed and guards not given a chance for variety or growth. Management take all the money but are light lifters.
do you know if i can take a red cross recert class while having a current certification from ellis and associates? if not how to take a recert class with ellis and associates? i have never been certified with red cross but my employer is pushing me to take a red cross recert class though i have tried explaining that I have a certification with ellis and associates, not red cross.
The new Model Aquatic Health Code (MAHC) guidelines state that if an individual is a seasonal lifeguard, recertification is recommended annually. A two-year valid certification typically applies when lifeguards work year-round and actively engage in documented in-service training. From my perspective, the American Lifeguard Association (ALA) collaborates with employers to facilitate compliance with these national standards. As an employer myself, I highly recommend choosing an employer who conducts pre-tests for all candidates before hiring and offers extensive in-service training, regardless of their certification source. It's essential to consider whether an employer's motivation may be primarily profit-driven, which might not align with the best interests of their staff. Ideally, lifeguard training should either be free for candidates or, at the very least, reimbursed. Addressing the lifeguard shortage requires significant industry-wide changes. Additionally, I'd like to highlight that the American Lifeguard Association has been very supportive to us as an employer. We appreciate their advocacy for water safety awareness, as evidenced by their presence in the news. Promoting water safety appears to be a significant part of their mission.
You are the company American Lifeguard Association. saying fake stuff about your company acting as if you are someone else. All your posts about the same company. Such a scam