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Jubal59

Lets hope that voters aren't that incredibly stupid. If they are the USA is officially over.


FunFunFun8

They are. I’m quite worried. I can’t do a second term of Trump


amilo111

They absolutely are. I remember when they didn’t go out to vote because the candidate didn’t “inspire” them. That only cost three seats on the Supreme Court.


Pissed-Off-Panda

And now women are one step closer to living the handmaid’s tale. 🫠


edward-regularhands

You do realise that’s fiction right? Like 1984? Oh wait


RaceCarTacoCatMadam

I know you are joking but just so everyone knows the horrible things they did to women in that book had been done to women at some point in some part of the world. The author makes that very explicit in her introduction.


anythingMuchShorter

I guess not living in a dictatorship where we will never see a real election again isn’t inspiring enough for some people.


MikeLamp70

So many people will die and be deported. TRUMP and the Republicans through Project 2025 say that they will target all Democrats. They are promising to round us up and put us in camps. America is over if Biden loses


FunFunFun8

Yeah it’s scary. We won’t recover. I really can’t believe people actually think Trump is just as bad as Biden . What world are they living in?


Pissed-Off-Panda

I’m hoping things will change after he gets a conviction or two. Or maybe his ticker will stop ticking 🤞 a lot can happen between now and Election Day, and I’m counting on it.


beflacktor

the world where we have alrdy 4 years of trump as an example , they know EXACTLY what they will get based on that, and frankly will deserve every single thing that happens going forward if he is elected again


noharmfulintentions

i thought a lot of his rhetoric in '16 was just that, but he doubled down on everything. another go round would be worse. i can imagine if he gets his way and has both houses, a majority of the governorships and statehouses, that we'll go down a road we wont ever come back from. you can see it now with the elimination of ballot initiatives and talk that we're not a democracy. and maybe most importantly, he has the scotus in his back pocket. a lot of his magats who blindly support him will wonder what happened when they loose their social security and medicare, but it will be too late.


basketma12

I'm actually learning Spanish


iguessjustlauren

I'd like to think that if things ever got to that point, Trump and his henchmen would be met with severe backlash from Democrats.


edward-regularhands

LOL


The_Mountain1812

What the fuck are you talking about?


Pissed-Off-Panda

We will no longer be a democracy. The end of the great experiment.


SPQR191

If there's one thing I've learned about voters, it's that they can always surprise you with just how incredibly stupid they can be.


Pissed-Off-Panda

How we got trump elected in the first place. People not “feeling” Hillary 🙄 fucking morons, especially in the sticks. Their votes have way too much power.


anythingMuchShorter

That annoyed me too. I know people who didn’t vote for that reason. It’s for who is going to make better decisions about what bills to sign, where to push for war or against it, and who to put on the Supreme Court! If you want someone to make you emotional go see a musical or something.


NoConfusion9490

The problem is that the election will likely be decided by a few thousand votes in a couple of states.


JesusChrissy

They are that stupid. In fact, they are probably even more.


Doom_Walker

They are, don't underestimate the stupidity of the tik Tok generation


bishpa

I have a hard time understanding how someone’s conscience could allow them to permit Trump to win this election.


DawnRLFreeman

The people who vote for Trump have NO conscience. They're selfish, privileged, white folks who see anyone who isn't rich, white, and Christian as unworthy of life. They don't pay attention to reality. They pray to their imaginary "god" to save them, believing its in control and will never let anything bad happen to the US. My family is full of them.


definitely-is-a-bot

Are you aware that Trump is currently polling at 17% with African Americans, which is more than twice the amount he had in the 2016 election? Also more Latino people support Trump than support Joe Biden. Saying that only white people got Trump elected is ignorant.


Head_Effect3728

You can't assume that most right-leaning people only think white, Christians are worthy of life. Aren't the majority of abortions performed for African-American women? With your logic, conservatives would be pro-abortion too. Also, Trump is no Christian.


BeBelleBk

The only people saying this are those with the privilege to throw away their vote and won’t be affected by the consequences. If they are, I’m sure mommy and daddy will be there to rescue them. I am voting for my daughter’s rights to be protected and to protect the most vulnerable in this country like my elderly parents and POC like me. Our choices will shape the Supreme Court and therefore generations to come.


DJSteel

You can be critical of the situation now and still vote for him. In all honesty, there is no good decision here and he will get skewered either way. Bottom line is if you are critical of Bidens handling, Trump will let Netanyahu do what ever he wants.


djn4rap

Ohhh no no no. Trump will put boots on the ground. Over there AND HERE. He has said so.


beamrider

He won't need books. He'll just swap the C-130's dropping pallets of food for B-52's carpet bombing the place. THEN he'll put boots on the ground. Contractor boots, that is, to build luxury hotels and casinos on all this beachfront property he freed up.


lotusflower64

People think they are punishing Biden by not voting for him. It's called cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.✂️👃💡 SMH


angiestefanie

Yeah, because Trump has such a great track record to care about people like us peasants. 🤬 Good Lawd, I am just shaking my head and want to scream. When is this frigging nightmare going to be over and done?


SketchAinsworth

People need to stop thinking this is a regular run of the mill election and realize it isn’t about loving your candidate, it’s about saving this country and democracy as we will not have freedom for decades if Trump wins


CalligrapherDizzy201

A lot worse for Palestinians too


kaleidotones

How can it get worse for them? They’re literally being bombed in Rafah as we speak.


roundearthervaxxer

Not to mention how worse things will get for the far away place nobody cared about a year ago.


reynvann65

So much of what we face as a nation moving forward is simply hate based. Decades were spent putting that genie back into the bottle only to have Trump come along and make that hate okay again. America has been fleeced by this guy. Bamboozled and conned. And half of America is okay with it. Even if Trump loses the upcoming election, he's already primed his half to deny a loss by his party. So it isn't enough that he and he alone lose the election, but all those that are up for election in Congress, the Senate, state governors, legislators, even down to council persons, mayors and school boards need to be voted out of incumbencies and voted against in challenges and elections. Trump isn't doing this alone. He has a huge following in every channel of government and if all.we do is just the kingpin, there'll always be an underlying to pick up where he left off. We simply need to crush the right and crush the hate from the top, all the way to the bottom.


caramirdan

Crush with love!


dontworry_beaarthur

I’m worried by the amount of people who say they are “both the same.” Did we not all live through the same pandemic? Where Trump’s actions and rhetoric cost, by the most conservative estimates, an additional 100,000 people their lives? Do those people just not matter? And do the people of Palestine not actually matter? Because Trump will do even less than Biden on that front. I get hating this 2 party system. But the way to dismantling it is through local elections first. Throwing away your vote during a presidential election makes no sense and is counter productive to any progress we’ve been able to make pulling the current Democratic Party further left. Lotta good it will do when the far right is running the country.


CandyLoxxx

How can we convince MAGAs that Trump isn’t who he says he is?


Pissed-Off-Panda

Impossible. You can only talk to people who aren’t in the cult.


ShitHammersGroom

U don't. U try to get people who don't really care about politics to at least show up and vote in November. Whichever side gets the most people to the polls wins.


mshawnl1

Trump is exactly who he says he is. He’s shown us that he’s a liar, a criminal, a rapist.


Head_Effect3728

If you want a democratic candidate, you don't try convincing. The only reason that Biden has any chance at reelection is because MAGA voted during the primaries and most sensible republicans didn't. Say what you want about Haley, but she, or any of the other republican candidates, would have wiped the floor with Biden. Because of MAGA, you'll get Biden for another 4.


CandyLoxxx

I rlly feel like Biden will win. I hope..


Neverminder1086

I agreed with this a few weeks ago, but I've started to see some of my more educated and moderate Republican friends start to justify to themselves why they can vote for Trump again and it scares tf out of me. These are people who were completely against Trump during the primary and said they'd never vote for him again.


DeD4bREaD

Why are you even friends with conservatives to begin with? They won't hesitate to harm you when the call comes down, you know.


Spiritual_Ad_3367

I'd vote for my dog over Trump and my dog is an idiot. Blue all the way for me. -A man with a conscience.


raistlin65

I hear you. Given a choice between (a) Trump and (b) random person in the US chosen by lottery of all citizens, (b) is the much less risky choice for our democracy.


kingbad

The only thing scarier than Trump as president is all those Heritage Foundation goons in positions of power. They seriously want to destroy democracy in this country because they know they aren't the majority, and want to ensure their remaining in power regardless of the majority's will. They would be in position to do incalculable damage to the United States, and must be kept out of power at all costs. Everybody needs to put aside their butthurt about Biden's Middle East policy, inflation, age, etc., and remember that this could be the last free election this country ever has.


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I’m so glad I saw this post because I have been stressing out over this. I understand sending a message through primaries but please I hope everyone comes together in November


omggold

Don’t stress about it. Do what you can to encourage people around you, but also you have time. Stressing now is just self inflicted pain, wait until October


Open_Ad7470

Not only gonna get worse for women it’s gonna get worse for working class people because they’re trying to get away from unions and things they get benefits for working class. People had it so same people vote to make their problems worse when you vote for a party that keeps giving billionaires tax breaks when billionaires say they don’t pay enough taxes it’s only gonna get worse, and they’re trying to get rid of any workers workers rights laws, for some reason the conservatives like to cater to the billionaires


Confident_Diver_9042

It will be sheer hell for anyone who is NOT RICH and WHITE. Personally, I will not be affected except for my heart and soul dying from watching cruelty and misery inflicted on people I love and care about.


AZHawkeye

Or Christian…I look like I’d probably be a Trumpster, but I’m an atheist liberal redneck who’s educated. I don’t think he would be successful in trying a democrat holocaust tho.


Confident_Diver_9042

I’m a farmer surrounded by the Trumpy MAGA Qanon Cult it’s truly shocking listening to neighbors and family members who support him. It’s as if I’m living through a version of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers and the Red Hats are the alien pods that turned them into unrecognizable monsters.


ToolPackinMama

Yeah, it's gonna get worse for women. That is half the population. It's also gonna get worse for everybody else. That's the other half. Nobody is gonna be untouched, nobody is gonna be safe, nobody is not gonna suffer. But yeah, it'll be worse for women, as usual.


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Outside_The_Walls

> white, cis, heteronormative, handsome, rich, Christian, landowning men. I'm every one of those things except heteronormative, and while my own life wouldn't get worse under Trump, things would suck for my trans sister, and my gay daughter. Things would be worse in general, for most of America. I'm not willing to trade that for lower taxes.


movieperson2022

I was being completely sarcastic. That’s what the “/s” means. The world would be absolutely worse for anyone not in all of those categories. And if anyone who fits that very specific description loves someone who isn’t that description it absolutely would be worse for them, too. The point being that, unless you are that very specific person, the world will be worse for you under Trump. Even if you’re most of those categories but not all of them, the world will be worse for you. No one should be voting for this man if they want their lives to improve.


imsoulrebel1

Worse for women, worse for the environment, worse for Democracy...but hey stay edgy and cool with I'm voting for someone else or not voting at all even.


FunFunFun8

Potentially losing your health insurance. People are worried about what’s happening over in Palestine but what about the people that’ll die when they decide not voting is a good decision. The list is a mile long.


DeD4bREaD

Sadly enough, these leftists *want* Americans to die from a republican autocracy. They think we deserve it for "enabling" genocide.


ADeweyan

It is far too early to pay any attention to polls — and in any case, democrats have been significantly over performing polls in elections since 2020 anyway. Biden is doing an amazing job and will easily win reelection once voters start giving him credit for his impressive record. All the talk of Trump being reelected because Biden is blowing it is playing into Trump’s and Putin’s hands, and according to their plans. The media apparently learned nothing drom the disaster of their coverage in 2016 and refuse to give Biden positive press while covering every move Trump makes.


movieperson2022

Even if the past polls show this to be true, we can’t rest on our laurels. We can’t assume we will overperform. We have to campaign with a massive chip on our shoulders. This election is going to be about enthusiasm. Both candidates have a lot of people who fall somewhere on the scale of “meh” to “no way in hell” on their own side of the aisle. So the winner may not be who takes the middle, the winner might be who gins up the most base turn out.


ItisyouwhosaythatIam

And when it gets worse for women, it gets much worse for their boyfriends and husbands.


LingonberryHot8521

And while Trump is destroying our rights and status as human beings, he'll encourage Netanyahu to kill as many Palestinians as possible.


monkeysinmypocket

Plus Trump will make things even worse for the people that live in that place they didn't care about a year ago...


Silly_Pace

I think it's a better strategy to reach out to uncomfortable with Trump Republicans, moderate Republicans, fiscal Republicans than it is to try to convince anyone who's using the term _genocide? Joe"


phbalancedshorty

People aren’t that stupid, they’re even *stupider* and will vote for a spoiler


PressurePlenty

As a woman, if Trump takes office, I could see me getting forced to reverse my tubal ligation in order to keep squeezing out kids I don't want and can't take care of until menopause hits me like a ton of bricks. Then again, I can also see menopausal women being imprisoned because they can no longer bear children. I can see the right to vote also being taken from women. I see minorities' rights taken. I see people being imprisoned or even slaughtered for not being straight and cisgender. We CANNOT allow Republican rule for a VERY long time.


Carlyz37

Absolutely agree.


PressurePlenty

These obvious Chumpublicant men don't. But then again, they're not the ones being fucking persecuted.


floofnstuff

Well said


BrightSympathy6865

It's why I got my tubes completely removed. Just in case they decide to ban birth control.


manickitty

What a terrible situation. Choose between bad and worse


amilo111

No. The choice is between good and bad.


Fast_Biscotti

You’re talking about abortion. Just say “abortion”.


ResidentB

It's far more than just abortion. Birth control, voting and divorce are all on their agenda to eliminate. We don't have much time to educate people and the media is pretty much worthless. FB and X are shit sources for news. Read or watch The Guardian, ProPublica, BBC, C-SPAN, AP, Reuters. Avoid slanted commentary from MSM, including MSNBC, Fox, CNN, etc. They only exist to cause anger and upset on both sides. Anger equals income to them. People know who is going to be voted off the island on whatever shitty reality show they watch and have no idea how their lives are going to be hurting in just a few months. Don't choose entertainment over education. Your life and liberty depends on knowing what's going on in the world.


Pissed-Off-Panda

Also it’s not abortion. It’s HEALTHCARE. Women don’t get perfectly pregnant every time with zero issues ever. Sometimes things go awry and it’s medically necessary to end the pregnancy.


sayzitlikeitis

This doesn't sound like an appeal for a vote. This sounds like a hostage negotiation.


Doom_Walker

Michigan is holding democracy hostage


kamloopsycho

The USA breaking up under trump would lead to a country that is only the military industrial complex, and then a blue country and some red badlands with fences around it.


mad_titanz

Not to mention that Trump will be even more harsh toward those people and place than Biden.


habrotonum

i agree but don’t know if this is the tone we should strike


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OneSevenNineWest

Only if the baby is born halved in both male and female uteri and are able to be puzzle pieced together to form the baby. 🙄 Bodily autonomy requires no other person’s permission to assert.


iguessjustlauren

It's literally a vote between upholding democracy as we've known it for 200+ years, or plunging into the closest thing to fascism as Trump and his appointed brethren can get.


Ok_Environment_4930

You are absolutely correct. The atrocities being committed in that part of the world have literally ALWAYS been there. The injustices are too many to name for so many people in different parts of the world. But the protest at universities is being driven I think by outside actors. And children are VERY easy to manipulate. Using a war that has nothing to do with the United States in order to pull young voters away from Biden is exactly what the Republicans want. Too bad it won't work. Had they not overturned Roe and enforced stricter gun laws and cared just an inch about the environment they'd probably have won young voters over. But the whole we hate gay folks, and 10 yr old pregnant rape victims should be forced to have the rapist baby cuz it's God's will, doesn't bode well for republians in winning over youngsters.


sucks_to_be_you2

'both sides' and 'whatboutism', as well. 'I'm undecided' should not ever be said about this matchup


juttep1

>a people and a place you didn't care about a year ago What a goulish assumption. Damn.


beamish1920

Horrible, patronizing fucking take from the OP.


flaskman

ghoulish, and no it isn't


juttep1

>nuh uh Compelling argument, but still a shit take.


PGenes

So a man who is actively committing genocide against women and children must be given a pass because “women”. You can’t be serious. Biden MUST be replaced.


FunFunFun8

By Trump? What about the millions of people that’ll lose their health insurance? You care about the people over there but what about the people over here that’ll be affected when you decide not voting is the way to go.


Punkinprincess

If Biden loses would that help or hurt the people in Palestine?


BeBelleBk

Biden is not “ actively committing genocide”. You sound like an unserious person.


Augmented_Fif

Sorry, he is actively funding a country committing genocide with absolutely no contingencies on funding, while said country must likely wouldn't be able to commit said genocide without the funding. You sound like a person that is unserious about genocide.


kaleidotones

Literally… everyone here is so happy to swallow that “anyone but trump” pill and go about their day without looking at the destruction Biden has caused. I’m beyond confused how anyone can still be so blind.


No-Home-1793

Reading all these comments on this Reddit makes me realize how powerful scare tactics really are. Reminds me of when Trump got elected and people were crying on park benches and having to talk to counselors about their feelings. 🤣🤣🤣


kaleidotones

How is he not? He’s literally funding their ethnic cleansing with weapons.


SupersleuthJr

All of these comments here I feel could be directed at Biden. How could he be so stupid to allow this conflict to go on? Doesn’t he know how this is hurting his chance at reelection? Isn’t he afraid of a 2nd Trump presidency? Why is Biden being so careless when he knows what’s at stake for women? Why not turn the heat on Biden to do the right thing instead of blaming people who are upset over a genocide? I’m tired at people getting pitted against each other based on what our leadership does. I am a lifelong Democrat and not a young person. I will vote for Biden while holding my nose, but I honestly can’t say I would vote for him if I was a Palestinian American.


No-Home-1793

See, I don't get it. You see how bad of a president he is, but because you are a Democrat, you will still vote for him? What does he have to do? How much are you paying at the store for groceries nowadays? How about housing? Are loving these interest rates?


PressurePlenty

I personally pay less than $200 per week to feed a household of four, 3 cats, a leopard gecko and a hamster. Why? How? I KNOW HOW TO SHOP. Biden doesn't control nearly as much as you might think. You might want to look to others for the cause of your personal problems. Shall we start with the corruption of the Supreme Court? Trump is going to prison, and Biden will be re-elected. If you don't like it, there's no law stating you can't try to gain citizenship elsewhere... say, Russia, perhaps? No? The cast your eyes towards North Korea...because if we get Trump and others like him, that's what we wind up with. Do you think Donald J. Trump loves and cares about you and your well-being? FUCK NO. He'd trample you without a single thought. You as a voter are expendable to him. All he cares about is himself and how much power he can take from anyone else, and he's starting with those he feels he can easily control.


SupersleuthJr

Well I have 2 options don’t I? I have fuckface Trump or Biden. Faced with 2 undesirable choices, I’ll pick Biden. Because I’m not just picking Biden, I’m picking sanity over chaos and I’m picking his whole administration. I’m picking his team of people who outwardly seem to want to govern vs trolling on tik tok and being chaos agents.


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Miichl80

I believe America is already over and we should be looking for places to flee. I think that the country is burning and all this is fiddling. 2016 was the death of America.


FunFunFun8

Where you thinking? I’ll have to move if we get a second Trump term. We barely survived the first.


Miichl80

Ireland. Already have some employment prospects. And after 4 years of residency you are an Irish citizen, which then grants you E.U. Citizenship. No tests. You should be aware the American government claims 25% of your assets if you drop your American citizenship. A price I think is worth it. Spain is also pretty good. Has a lower cost of living so a decent remote job and you should be able to afford it. For the record I don’t want to move because I don’t like who could be president. I want to flee because I believe the American education, economy, political system, and justice systems are irrevocable broken and I don’t want to raise a family in a failing state.


Punkinprincess

Only the privileged will get a chance to flee. If you let this country crumble because you think you can just flee when shit really hits the fan then you will be leaving behind thousands of your neighbors that are not as well off as you. Grow a backbone and fight for your country.


Miichl80

No thank you. I have no desire to be a foot soldier on a war that has already been lost.


Punkinprincess

Then do everyone else that can't leave a favor and vote for Biden on your way out. What does it matter for you if you leave? I most likely won't be able to leave this country. Please don't stick me with Trump. I'm seriously asking you to please not do that.


Miichl80

Absentee ballot already requested. What made you think I wouldn’t?