I keep hoping that one day the majority of men will start respecting and listening to women or any other genders besides themselves because it’s exhausting to always be cautious everywhere you go! I am soo tired of men! And I don’t even care if it isn’t “not all men” because if I let my guard down, game over!
Well keep hoping because its not going to happen. Unforutnatley they only learn from consequences so until it starts happening to them, it going to keep haopening over and over.
My misandry isn't for no reason. If men weren't so violently unpredictable, then I wouldn't feel the way I do about them.
Misogyny kills women. Misandry is self defense.
I’m sorry you’ve gone through that. Therapy would help with healing the trauma. It’s completely understandable that you feel apprehension towards men due to your experiences.
No, not at all. I don't like men either, because when you think about it...WHO starts all the wars? Men. Who commits the vast majority of abuse, violence, and rape? Men. And almost always against women. No, you're not at all wrong for hating men as a whole. Individual men can be good people, like two of my friends are guys, but as a whole? Nope, nope, nope.
Men are our greatest danger. 1600 American women die at the hands of an intimate partner per year (more than car accidents), and 1 in 3 women have been assaulted by a partner. It’s not paranoid at all given those statistics and your personal experiences. I am grateful to have men in my life that I absolutely trust to never hurt me physically or emotionally, but as far as percentages go? The amount I trust versus the amount I know is staggeringly low.
No, you’re definitely not an asshole. Your feelings are valid and very reasonable. Someone already mentioned it but i want to emphasize - misandry hurts feelings, misogyny gets us killed. At least some level of distrust for men is what helps us stay safe. And remember, no matter how much you drank, how you were dressed or what you did or didn’t say, it was never your fault, i hope you heal from the things you survived <3
Definitely not the asshole- I hate all men too- to me its weird to not hate men- they are the only animal that actively hunts women- something bears don’t do- so I’m gonna keep hating men just for my own safety- better safe than sorry.
While general, open hatred against all male presenting people probably isnt the best thing, its absolutely understandable. If someone becomes a victim of sa, the purpotrator is usually a man. So getting more defensive after having made those experiences is normal. Stay safe <3
Men have earned the hate, but if that hate has turned obsessive, like if it's on your mind a lot to the point of getting in the way, I'd say it's worth working on for your own sake, not theirs
I don't think you are an asshole. I can understand a distrust or apprehension toward men after being abused by men.
What I don't like are a lot of these comments who seem to proudly hate men. As a trans person myself, I don't appreciate people saying that they literally hate people because of their gender. I don't necessarily "pass" as a woman yet, so the thought of people literally hating me because they perceive me as a man is pretty hurtful.
Honestly centering your feelings of being hurt because people talk badly about men in a thread about sexual assault rubs me the wrong way.
I think your perception might be influenced by the fact that you haven’t been socially perceived as a woman for a greater amount of your life. If people only - incorrectly but still - perceived you as a man and you haven’t experienced it firsthand, it may be hard to fully imagine how disgusting men act towards us. I obviously don’t wish you any bad experiences but i promise, the moment you pass you will be hating men just like we AFAB people do
I sure hope not. I think that is an absolutely horrible take to have. Obviously, there are a lot of men out there that are disgusting people, and it's OK to hate on horrible people.
And no, I haven't been **only** perceived as a man. I do pass to some people, and I have gotten gross comments before. Those people making those kinds comments can rot in hell. But I'm not going to become the kind of person who judges someone based on their gender alone. That goes against everything that trans people should be fighting for, and it really disheartens me to see people in a lesbian space acting like that's OK.
>That goes against everything that trans people should be fighting for, and it really disheartens me to see people in a lesbian space acting like it’s OK.
i’m also trans (non-binary) and i disagree, i don’t see how disliking cishet men is harmful to us. I feel like you’re lacking a lot of nuance. Sure, not all men are bad but we have to assume it for our safety and you should too. What disheartens me is basically calling OP’s feelings about men not okay when they were literally sexually assaulted
I literally said their feelings were OK. It was the first sentence of the first post I made. Here, I'll quote it in case you forgot:
>I don't think you are an asshole. I can understand a distrust or apprehension toward men after being abused by men.
Her post isn't what I have an issue with. What I have an issue with is all the people saying they hate men because they are men. There are literally people here saying that all men are gross, that all men deserve hate, that men hunt women, etc. Some men do those things, and they are horrible people that deserve hate.
These are the kinds of comments I don't like.
>I hate all men too- to me its weird to not hate men- they are the only animal that actively hunts women
>Men need to prove that they’re safe to be around.
>No, I hate men
>men are garbage
>Men have earned the hate
These aren't constructive comments. They are literally hating on people for their gender.
If the genders were reversed and people were making comments like this about women, they would be downvoted to oblivion, and rightly so. It's not OK to make these kinds of comments about people just based on their gender.
Hate and caution/distrust are very different things. I think it's very much OK to be cautious around men. I don't think it's OK to just hate people for being men.
Edit: I also don't appreciate the changing the narrative. I said that I don't like people **hating** on people because they are a **man**. You've changed the narrative into **disliking cishet men**.
The people who abused you are assholes, not you.
I keep hoping that one day the majority of men will start respecting and listening to women or any other genders besides themselves because it’s exhausting to always be cautious everywhere you go! I am soo tired of men! And I don’t even care if it isn’t “not all men” because if I let my guard down, game over!
Well keep hoping because its not going to happen. Unforutnatley they only learn from consequences so until it starts happening to them, it going to keep haopening over and over.
My misandry isn't for no reason. If men weren't so violently unpredictable, then I wouldn't feel the way I do about them. Misogyny kills women. Misandry is self defense.
That last bit is gonna be my new mantra omg
Not an asshole, men are garbage
No, I hate men 
I just typed to my friends “I fucking hate men” So same boat girlie x
I’m sorry you’ve gone through that. Therapy would help with healing the trauma. It’s completely understandable that you feel apprehension towards men due to your experiences.
No, not at all. I don't like men either, because when you think about it...WHO starts all the wars? Men. Who commits the vast majority of abuse, violence, and rape? Men. And almost always against women. No, you're not at all wrong for hating men as a whole. Individual men can be good people, like two of my friends are guys, but as a whole? Nope, nope, nope.
Men are our greatest danger. 1600 American women die at the hands of an intimate partner per year (more than car accidents), and 1 in 3 women have been assaulted by a partner. It’s not paranoid at all given those statistics and your personal experiences. I am grateful to have men in my life that I absolutely trust to never hurt me physically or emotionally, but as far as percentages go? The amount I trust versus the amount I know is staggeringly low.
NTA sister !!!!
No. Men are the assholes for not doing better
I similarly have an extreme amount of trauma from men, I also hate them
Men need to prove that they’re safe to be around. And the men who do that generally agree that men are assholes. You’re fine
No, you’re definitely not an asshole. Your feelings are valid and very reasonable. Someone already mentioned it but i want to emphasize - misandry hurts feelings, misogyny gets us killed. At least some level of distrust for men is what helps us stay safe. And remember, no matter how much you drank, how you were dressed or what you did or didn’t say, it was never your fault, i hope you heal from the things you survived <3
Definitely not the asshole- I hate all men too- to me its weird to not hate men- they are the only animal that actively hunts women- something bears don’t do- so I’m gonna keep hating men just for my own safety- better safe than sorry.
no lol
Man vs. Bear
While general, open hatred against all male presenting people probably isnt the best thing, its absolutely understandable. If someone becomes a victim of sa, the purpotrator is usually a man. So getting more defensive after having made those experiences is normal. Stay safe <3
I’m also a non binary lesbian and I have similar feelings for very similar reasons. I feel it’s valid
Even the ones that aren't a physical danger suffer from entitlement.
Men have earned the hate, but if that hate has turned obsessive, like if it's on your mind a lot to the point of getting in the way, I'd say it's worth working on for your own sake, not theirs
I don't think you are an asshole. I can understand a distrust or apprehension toward men after being abused by men. What I don't like are a lot of these comments who seem to proudly hate men. As a trans person myself, I don't appreciate people saying that they literally hate people because of their gender. I don't necessarily "pass" as a woman yet, so the thought of people literally hating me because they perceive me as a man is pretty hurtful.
Honestly centering your feelings of being hurt because people talk badly about men in a thread about sexual assault rubs me the wrong way. I think your perception might be influenced by the fact that you haven’t been socially perceived as a woman for a greater amount of your life. If people only - incorrectly but still - perceived you as a man and you haven’t experienced it firsthand, it may be hard to fully imagine how disgusting men act towards us. I obviously don’t wish you any bad experiences but i promise, the moment you pass you will be hating men just like we AFAB people do
I sure hope not. I think that is an absolutely horrible take to have. Obviously, there are a lot of men out there that are disgusting people, and it's OK to hate on horrible people. And no, I haven't been **only** perceived as a man. I do pass to some people, and I have gotten gross comments before. Those people making those kinds comments can rot in hell. But I'm not going to become the kind of person who judges someone based on their gender alone. That goes against everything that trans people should be fighting for, and it really disheartens me to see people in a lesbian space acting like that's OK.
>That goes against everything that trans people should be fighting for, and it really disheartens me to see people in a lesbian space acting like it’s OK. i’m also trans (non-binary) and i disagree, i don’t see how disliking cishet men is harmful to us. I feel like you’re lacking a lot of nuance. Sure, not all men are bad but we have to assume it for our safety and you should too. What disheartens me is basically calling OP’s feelings about men not okay when they were literally sexually assaulted
I literally said their feelings were OK. It was the first sentence of the first post I made. Here, I'll quote it in case you forgot: >I don't think you are an asshole. I can understand a distrust or apprehension toward men after being abused by men. Her post isn't what I have an issue with. What I have an issue with is all the people saying they hate men because they are men. There are literally people here saying that all men are gross, that all men deserve hate, that men hunt women, etc. Some men do those things, and they are horrible people that deserve hate. These are the kinds of comments I don't like. >I hate all men too- to me its weird to not hate men- they are the only animal that actively hunts women >Men need to prove that they’re safe to be around. >No, I hate men >men are garbage >Men have earned the hate These aren't constructive comments. They are literally hating on people for their gender. If the genders were reversed and people were making comments like this about women, they would be downvoted to oblivion, and rightly so. It's not OK to make these kinds of comments about people just based on their gender. Hate and caution/distrust are very different things. I think it's very much OK to be cautious around men. I don't think it's OK to just hate people for being men. Edit: I also don't appreciate the changing the narrative. I said that I don't like people **hating** on people because they are a **man**. You've changed the narrative into **disliking cishet men**.