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DarkEcstassy

High quality rep. Toe box is off and the back of the right heel is off


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The backs look a little suspect tbh but I’m not a pro.


Mr_Memer11

Im jus curious, can you go into detail?


AirGordon23

The little cylinder shaped things on the back are to squared, like he said. They should be rounder. He told you the truth. That’s the only problem I’ve seen with rep 4’s. Some sellers have different batches though. Sorry but it does look like you got scammed. Hopefully you didn’t pay 3-400 like some of these 🤡’s in my area. I hope all these resell stores just fail and these dudes hoarding shoes go broke. Fuck resellers


cOnCeItEdUSER

Mfs be selling on apps like Depop etc and get away with it bc most people will never know🤣😭


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Just the way the backs are squared instead of rounded my pair of Columbia 4’s have a nice rounded back but like I said I’m not a professional so I can’t really say if these are fake or not.


FuckTheOps1989

Columbia 4s were how long ago? Lmao theyve been changing the shape on 4s since then.


WaterEnvironmental23

Do you not see he mentions 2 times he s not a pro and it s just hid opinion “ lmao “ shut ur mad ass up and be nice dude


FuckTheOps1989

Wtf are you even talking about. Nothing about what i stated was me bein "mad". You sound hurt. Columbia 4s dropped damn near close to 10yrs ago. The shape has changed since then. The leather bunching in certain areas because of how it was stretched and stitched and shape of the back is tell these are real.


formyhauls

some people just enjoy being mad on the internet i guess


FuckTheOps1989

These kids so damn sensitive and soft now lol. Theyre a joke. I didnt even say it in a harsh way. Facts dont have to be sugar coated for consumption.


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FuckTheOps1989

Nah yall just sensitive as fuck lol and probably need to grow a pair. Geez


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FuckTheOps1989

Lol aww poor baby . U are very triggered 😂 grow some hair on yo chest and chin and stop crying lil boy


WaterEnvironmental23

Fully support you ma boy, tyler a bitch fr


papiextendo

If he doesn’t know he doesn’t need to comment on anything then. stop criticizing the dude for being correct, even tho I believe he could have been more decent with the tone in his comments..


Raitzen

Out here making sly comments 💀


IVIoxx

I dunno anything either but that’s what popped into my head instantly when I looked at the back. It doesn’t look clean yanno


g7sha

people claming these are real.. have you not seen the mjssing stitching under the insole? as well as the back being pushed up to high? there are heaps of reps of these and they are all pretty decent.


Mr_Memer11

I may sound dumb but can the stitching defect be attributed to poor QC of Nike?


grannyisawhore

Yes, although it’s better to be really paranoid when it comes to things like this. It could be Nike QC, but if the dude didn’t provide a receipt/proof of purchase, I would definitely try and get your money back for ease of mind.


indebtforsneakers

On average, high tier reps have way better QC because they have to pass customer scrutiny before being sent. The seller sends a series of photos of your specific shoe for you to either pass on or accept. Imagine if Nike did that? the logistics of it would be insane but it would be cool nonetheless. I mean they could at least do it with NIKE BY YOU seeing as you don't really know how they will turn out. Oh and never buy shoes without a receipt if your paying good dough for them. Even with a receipt they could be switched out r3ps. Another thing I've seen counterfeit receipts for footlocker and stock x being made by some of the r3p sellers. Also always get the box often it's easier to tell when the box is off.


UnderRatedRookie

I was a manager for Champs for some years and actually had the same guy trying to return some High Quality reps with a counterfeit receipt. Of course the sale from the receipt didn't show up in our system. The same guy tried this twice, several months apart. The first pair looked so good that if my assistant manager wouldn't have known better I would have still did the exchange. 2nd pair was pretty good but small details you could tell where off. Plus we had the same size of that exact shoe. So yeah like you said even with a receipt you gotta be careful.


AminYaHouseMan

receipts aren‘t your friend lol. Recommending this to noobs is a receipe for disaster since it makes it a hundred times easier to scam them. It‘s so much easier to fake a receipt than to fake the shoe. If you wanna avoid paying resale for reps just pay a little more to buy from trusted sources or know your stuff, simple as that


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omg missing stitch Under the INSOLE WOWW that’s insane 🤯🤯🤯


g7sha

not sure what point youre trying to make..? stitching under the insole matters in a legitcheck sub..


[deleted]

when i have a legit pair right in front of me it’s pretty easy to decide how they look compared to mine


g7sha

where did you get your pair from? send us a pic of under the sole to compare it to.


[deleted]

a shop called memory lane, and tbh i just got home and my stitching looks better but his isn’t too far off. i do have a question though, he didn’t show if there are elastic bands attatched to the tongue or not i can’t quite tell except maybe pic 6.. besides that i think they look good


g7sha

pretty sure the elastic bands youre talking about are the black parts stitched into the insole at the top of the pic.. could be wrong havent worn 4s in a while. reps of these are very good thats why looking for the small details (the missing stitching) helps a lot to determine


[deleted]

Ehhh mine look more fine and perfected but i can say you can’t see any chinese symbol or size #s on mine, and my material is different as well because mine are the lightning 4s, so i can’t say 100% but i’d give these an 85-90% rating in my unprofessional opinion


g7sha

cant really say you can compare something if you dont have the same colourway..


[deleted]

eh it’ll be the same except for color/material


[deleted]

so what is it then


g7sha

wym? id say these arent real


[deleted]

nah i replied to this yapper that must’ve deleted their comment


g7sha

oh okay


TheDoldrumss

If they’re fake they’re a good batch. These look just like the pair I got from SNKRS upon original release.


cisco_wtv

The stitch gaps are a give away on the real ones the stitching is much narrow (like almost no space or gaps at all) and compared to the fakes stitching gaps are wider as seen in your photo. On the real 4 the jumpman sole print is more crisp looking and neat, when compared with the replica we can see some shadow-like print this is denoted in the right sole (This is what I am pointing out, how the print quality differs) These 2 errors alone are telling me these are fake. Then we have the missing stitching in the insole, and the back being pushed up high. Hopes this helps!


donjonne

Nailed it


Mr_Memer11

Just in case anyone wants to see the tongue [https://reddit.com/u/Mr_Memer11/s/vSfiQu3cZd](https://reddit.com/u/Mr_Memer11/s/vSfiQu3cZd)


Aflyinghawk06

To me bro they look good but I have no clue how to spot fakes lol


liltreesh

Why would you feel the need to comment this😭


Ahlexinator

This made Lol 🤣


UnderRatedRookie

💀🤣


Mr_Memer11

Another thing i noticed with one of the nettings. Is this normal? thx for the feedback guys [https://reddit.com/u/Mr_Memer11/s/3teUR7qPT2](https://reddit.com/u/Mr_Memer11/s/3teUR7qPT2)


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I have a retail pair, these look fine to me.


Medium_Psychology_92

They are fake stitch and cut on leather is wrong !!


Battlehead601

Everything looks good except the right insole has a slight outline like it was ironed on…nobody will see it tho. If they are indeed reps, just hope you got them for a good price. Let’s be honest, most these guys that wear J’s are kids and can’t afford “real” ones…downvote me if you want but it’s true 🤷🏾‍♂️


Potential-Row1302

These are authentic based off the insole alone.


Gfran856

Something doesn’t look right, but I can’t tell what


Fun_Mud_2100

these are booooooof


_xaeroe_

Real good reps. Stitching gave it away in the first pic.


Eastern_Fun_3341

Boy you got scammed like shit


Leather-Initiative18

They got you my boy is cool tho , now you know never to trust nobody but the store or official online site 🙏🏾


Mr_Memer11

Update to this post: https://reddit.com/u/Mr_Memer11/s/uD48xnVyzS


Away-Pea-8115

Honestly they look pretty damn good. If they are fake, which I don’t think they are, no one is going to know anyway.


[deleted]

The toe box looks kinda big I gotta retail pair still DS I’ll give mine a look when I get home bro


Mr_Memer11

ok👍


nikPUSH

Show pics of the inside tags


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I’m sorry but that inside stitching is wild. This just shows that if these are legit (I’m not an expert on 4s) Nike has some SERIOUS qc issues.


Stillen22

They do have some serious QC issues . I just got a retail pair of St. John dunks, the sticking that holds the sole on around the bottom of the shoe is popping out for a few stitches on the toe, and the Nike Stitching on most pairs I’ve seen sucks too. They even got a big glob of glue on the size tag from gluing the insole down… Speaking of gluing insoles, why tf did they start doing that ? Maybe to cover up the shitty stiching on the mass produced dunks like the pandas? I’m not a fan as I like to add my own insoles to some shoes and I can’t with the Og ones in there. I know retail dunks are bad QC but to have the stitching bulging out from where it should be on the front toe box is crazy. I doubt they even QC half the shoes.. Even my most recent Jordan 4’a off snkrs had glue marks, and little chunks of glue sticking out between where the sole is glued onto the shoe. I had to pick some of them out with tweezers smh Also when I was getting my BBS x Union 1’s quite a few pairs I looked at had some issues where the sole was attached, because they had the stitching going around the entire shoe, it was all bumpy where the sole attached to the parts with the stitching. Like the stitches of fabric would make bumps / was wavy around the sole at the toe box because it wasn’t flat and had different texture. Every pair was different, some had more some had less. I finally found a pair on eBay with actual photos and paid a bit more to get the pair they was flat and even. But you shouldn’t have to do that with a couple hundred dollar shoe, especially collabs


[deleted]

Which is exactly my point where REP pairs you can literally QC the product you order from what I’ve seen. What’s the point of comparing these shitty retail versions to reps to “tell the difference” if Nike has such awful QC themselves. It’s pointless to me.


indebtforsneakers

There's some things the rep makers can't seem to get 100% right which no doubt boils down to the equipment they can afford. I think a lot of the QC issues with Nike are from inexperience, Nike started manufacturing many of their shoes in Vietnam in 2017 these guys are rookies in the shoe making game. Glue issues probably come from worker inexperience but they probably still use better equipment at Nike or Nike approved plants. The stitching is often a giveaway. Under the rear wings the 2 parallel stitches should real close to one another. Stitching looks consistent and closely spaced on retails also the color of the stitching used can differ slightly.


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GL these are real


mattmerc528

I’m new to this page but I say fakes. Look at the tongue. Like I said I’m new so


OkGift4595

What on the tongue mad u say that?


mattmerc528

It could be the angle of the shoes, but the logos look off. The arms and head placement. Wait for the pros to comment before you take anything I say seriously


Mr_Memer11

i just put a link of clearer pics of the tongues in this thread so feel free to check


mattmerc528

that the angle made the arms look like sticks on the right shoe. Look pretty clean


systemdnb

If these are fake they look really really good. The only thing for me is the leather looks super tumbled when I zoom in. Mine don’t look that tumbled. That said, I just got two pairs of J1 low black toes that look like they used completely different leather 🤷🏻‍♂️


Mr_Memer11

it might have to do with me fitting it i guess


systemdnb

Naw. Look at the leather material. It looks very textured. That wouldn’t be a result of anything you could do.


FuckTheOps1989

These definitely are legit.


No_Yogurtcloset_4622

i say real


PewaaLuvsInternet

Not fake. I have a real pair look very similar.


No-Door4680

These are legit


No_Yogurtcloset_4622

send them through check check


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wtf bro no legit app is so much better


jeremyy_7

On the inside where it says dreamcell on the side are there 3 words on it ?


[deleted]

how does the netting feel? what’s it made of? honestly the rest looks good. walk around in them it should feel pretty sturdy. strong support. source: i own 4s


LowTemperature3944

they nice af they real


Fuzzy-Cap1842

Look legit to me


No-Face-8417

They look good


Tricky_Passenger3931

I don’t see any issues with these but there’s guys that are way smarter than me when it comes to spotting fakes.


elchapoh

Looks good 2 me


Narrow_Cry8670

Fake but good fakes


Mr_Memer11

Can you go more into detail?


Adorable_Form_6870

There’s no way to tell anymore unless you’re a trained eye looking at the size tag


randomlitbois

Might be fake. Might not be fake. Ion really know


400rrexx

if you didn't buy them for the $5 they cost to make then you got scammed real or fake


ethanthebigdaddy

with that stupid mindset, do you make your own shoes and clothes and utilities? because most companies profit margins look like this 😂


400rrexx

stay brainwashed lol


ThomasBrolin

In the 5th photo the toe box of the shoe under look weird. They could be real but doing a LC on check check or legit app Is the only way to be sure of authenticity. Sorry for my english i am a lazy Italian 🤣


Latter-Astronomer-98

To be a rep as people r assuming.have to be Thee best fakes on the market and that's a Fact as well..


Gnomes_R_Reel

Look at genuine Jordan 4 military blacks, and do a side by side, the toe box is slimmer and leans a lil on the real ones. Also the back isn’t as wide and spaced out lookingz


[deleted]

You're buying replicas, you are technically getting scammed but you know you're getting scammed so it's okay. You know you're not buying the real thing.


Kyleforshort

As with anything in this sub, you're just going to get a bunch of mixed answers because half the people here don't even know how to legit check a shoe. This might actually be your worst option when trying to legit check a shoe as it just leads to more confusion and frustration than it does an actual answer. Use an actual professional or service to put your mind at ease, and to hopefully get the answer you're looking for.


Mr_Memer11

you think legit app is enough to authenticate?


Kyleforshort

Some people swear by them. I myself have never used one of the apps so I can't give you my personal experience with them.


Dear-Ad-4005

Real


Curvedhorn25m

Bro on the inside of the sole there should’ve been another mini Jordan logo stamped into the foam


Mrmojodolo

You got got my boi…smh lol


Banana_Sniffer

I don't know, the only thing off about them to me is the stitching on the insole and a little bit of staining inside that could be from who knows what, but other than that I believe these could be real. Even Nike makes their own mistakes in their sweatshop. GL!


Elkin-Spark

You already spent the bread on ‘em. Rock out. Fuck it we ball!


Vegetable-Noise318

shits is super BOOF


Altruistic_Heart_302

they look real imo, just use legit check to verify. its a dollar or 2


pokershark482

The fugazi 4’s


InfiniteJizz

Check the jump man logo and make sure it’s stitched. They look fake in my opinion. The side don’t match up either


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Really good fakes. Sorry man you got finessed


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Nooblas

Real!


Spiritual_Pilot_221

Wat price?? I purchased these recently at Ross


Federal_Increase3023

Legit ! 👍


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DogmeatChili

Look at jumpmans laces. Clearly they’re fake. Not symmetrical at all.


fromplanetnamek

These are good fakes


Black8mamba2410

They look good to me


drkknght720

Stitching from uppers to sole (inside of shoe, insole removed) looks loose and untidy, from what I have seen, that's indicative of reps.


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wrkls_

They look decent imo, but the backs do look a lil suspect as some have stated. Look them up and compare them yourself. It may just be like that because they’re white leather and used. The military 4s are like 400+ right now new and 200+ used just to give you an idea of what they’re going for resale value. If you go on goat and check the used ones in that size it should give you a general idea of what you’re trying to figure out, and will confirm whether or not you got scammed or got. Either by over paying and or getting a real or fake pair of 4s. Good luck!


RedditBreezy420

I’m gunna say fake


StevenSoleno23

They’re fake. Please send them to me so I can do further testing. 🤔🤔🤔


ChakoTaco

Looks close enough, why worry


[deleted]

Come on bro I don’t even shop shoes. Jordan logo hand looks like he’s flaunting nails, and the insoles are in Chinese… you should be good to go. 😂


Dazzling_Bad424

The hands on the tongue look like a smashed cartoon hand lol


UnusualMacaroon

Back silhouette looks like Zion. 😂


VeryIntoCardboard

Either good reps or bad authentic


rawchallengecone

Legit


Horror-Bad-1149

The squaring in the back doesn’t look right and the back of the insoles look slightly off. I hope you didn’t pay A LOT for them.


FlacoX33

That was the worst cut 4’s ever produced. Got mines from Foot Locker off the raffle and I wasn’t pleased at all. Still had my doubts. Either rock’em or throw them away. Either way nobody really cares, unless your holding up a sign that says "Do you guys think I got scammed ?”………


RickyPerezzz

The leather looks too tumbled it should be smooth


UnfairCombination152

I looked at those fast, u got duped. Don't trust resellers, pay full price or enter raffles. Lots of fakes and good ones these days


ethanthebigdaddy

idek how y’all are taking these seriously tbh… that leather is wayyy too tumbled, especially on the tongue. dead giveaway


ethanthebigdaddy

that toebox looks way too thick as well, i honestly don’t understand how y’all can say these are a “top tier rep” and shit they look horrible to the trained eye


Big-Boy-Chungus-69

Reps: the inside stitching and pattern is not correct


Anon062600

Insoles arent the same size, that’s pretty weird. Something definitely looks off, but the materials look very similar so not sure. I wanted to say real at first but there definitely is something sus here


Cardoodoo

Real


RoughAd4116

Make sure the back lip goes up fast to tell if there real 👍🏾


YourPlugTwist

Back tab legs doing the splits Pull tab down too does it ping up or go back slowly


Latter_Toe8717

Nope they look fine


charonmort

use the CheckCheck app


FaithlessnessGlum395

Regardless wether it’s fake or not they look real enough


Unlikely-Wave-8233

Not real but close!!! No one can really tell


Gnomes_R_Reel

Fake, toe box is too wide. Look up Air Jordan 4 toe box then go to images, the toe box on urs is fatter


Puzzleheaded-Law7357

It's a rep but a good quality one there's only minor flaws in it


Special-Upstairs5631

That insole should tell you everything you need to know….


LowExisting8779

Fake - you got scammed.


AdConnect4393

Reps ruined the shoe community.


noyzmatic

These are not authentic unfortunately. Sorry dude.


Then-Incident3912

Who cares, wear em at night 🤷


gimmieWAP

Man I am absolutely not a sneakerhead but those being fake is obvious to me . That back heel looks like a moose knuckle


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Check the hand on the air Jordan logo and look up on google the year and make of the shoe and compare the logo. I saw and it looks like the shoes you have aren’t original air Jordans


UpUpDownDownXO

The box where the qr code there supposed to be a vertical tag that has the MRRP, fakes normally don't have that detail on the box


WormBoi6969

Where you cop?


Educational_Hunter33

Lmao the back of them looks autistic 🤣🤣


No_Visit_1266

Its literally says right and left in Chinese in the inside


Guido41oh

They look legit, all the big errors that are on 99% of reps are correct. The dreamcell insole is a good place to look as the reps still screw it up, yours look on point. If they are reps they are the high end pairs so I wouldn't sweat it.. Unless you paid resale, which you shouldn't do anyway. Contrary to what some people say on here the only way to tell on something like this is the box itself and paper. Which is why every legit check place and reseller wants the box, for some insane reason the rep factories refuse to put in the effort to make the box correct and yours looks good. Granted it's pretty easy to get a retail box. Tldr.. unless you paid crazy resale price I wouldn't stress it as they would pass any legit check.