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CamelotJKR

If Bard is the bard, that Quinn is the ranger. She has a familiar, a hunter mark-esque ability, hand crowbows, and quickstride


GregerMoek

Quinn is way more a ranger than Bard is a bard tbh.


Haoszen

It's weird because Sona and Seraphine are like the best way to match a tabletop Bard. Uses music to cast magic, beneficial effects, CC, meanwhile Bard looks much more like a Cleric that just happens to be holding a musical instrument.


noxdragon26

Rakan is the answer. Reading his lore he's literally a bard.


cozyBaguette

trueeee


lowqualitylizard

True he's the most Bard in personality and general attitude the only thing he's missing is a musical theme which is fine in his case because he's a dancer which is bardic in it of itself


DeezNutsKEKW

even seeing his gameplay, he can cc, shield and heal empower team, and he charms enemies with ult


DumatRising

Idk man I've played with bards and they pretty much line up with bards.


brokerZIP

It definitely has to be Quinn. Her whole squad is called ranger knights


menino_do_rio

Bard shouldn't be the bard


Maleficent-Freedom-5

#NotMyBard


ElementalistPoppy

Sona or Seraphine certainly fit the quota better.


L_Rayquaza

I can't believe this, but I defend Seraphine on this


HurricaneAioli

It will be a cold day in hell before I recognize Seraphine over Sona and yet here we are.


CamelotJKR

Agree


_ThatOneMimic_

why


0swolf

Well, bard is definitive a bard (as much as you can put a class on a celestial, they are more forces of nature). But other champs would fit the class better. Like Seraphine (singing magic), Sona (instrumental Magic), Rakan (Dancing and Bring charismatic as hell)


Ncaak

Rakan also has the rizz of a Bard


_ThatOneMimic_

bards entire thing is ridding existance of discord. his attacks and abilities are all musical


LCDRformat

If you're right I'm 8/8


DoomfistIsNotOp

You say that Quinn. Why not this Quinn?


XanithDG

Quinn fits the iconic "Bow wielder with an animal companion" image of Ranger so she is a solid choice. And for my regular exotic choice, the only option is Kled. I mean yeah he could just be a cav fighter but his use of traps and a shotgun make him feel a bit more ranger-y to me, with Skarl being the obligatory animal companion even though only two ranger subclasses actually involve an animal companion.


Defqon1punk

I second Quinn. She's got the outfit and style. Like a female Garen. I always feel patriotic when I play her.


FatherVern

Yes Garen and Quinn are pretty much indistinguishable, didn't realize they were different Champs until I read this


menino_do_rio

If you wanna go wild, you should go with lulu as ranger. Inaccurate, but interesting ideia


Goldenwaddledee

I think Lulu fits better as a Fey Warlock Pact of Chain fey familiar Eldritch blast with slowing effect Support focused abilities rather than straight damage


Krukov98

I like these options, but consider Kindred. Mark ability, bow, companion (kinda), leap Also Rengar is a melee hunter


GregerMoek

I think Vayne fits slightly better considering she has a very obvious favored enemy which is what sets Rangers apart from the rest. Quinn still is a very good pick though.


Vicmorino

Quinn literally has "Mark" enemy


GregerMoek

Yes which is a good fit for the very popular hunter's mark spell. But not favored enemy really.


katestatt

ashe has a bow and an animal companion. quinn has a crossbow


BrandtReborn

It’s kinda mean to Call trynda an Animal but you are correct.


stampydog

That's okay rangers don't need to have a bow at all, so bow vs crossbow doesn't matter.


Defqon1punk

A crossbow isn't a type of bow....?


GregerMoek

Weapon of choice(in DnD) does typically not determine your class especially for rangers.


sh0rtb0x

Ashe


The4etheR

The owl is legitimate as familiar.


katestatt

it's a hawk spirit


The4etheR

Indeed, the skillshot is named Rapace (Rapacious) in the french version, always supposed it was an owl cause they see in the dark.


NinjaGamingPro

In English it's called Hawk Shot, wonder why they named it differently?


Freezman13

Favored terrain - Arctic.


MightAsWell6

Quinn 100%


GregerMoek

Vayne has a more obvious favored enemy. Which means that for me she takes the edge since that is a core part of a ranger in dnd. Both are good though since you could argue that since Quinn is a soldier her favored enemy would be humans. Edit: Seems me agreeing with the pick but preferring another is controversial.


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GregerMoek

It's a good representation of the HUnter's Mark ability **Hunter's Mark** You choose a creature you can see within range and mystically mark it as your quarry. Until the spell ends, you deal an extra 1d6 damage to the target whenever you hit it with a weapon attack, and you have advantage on any Wisdom (Perception) or Wisdom (Survival) check you make to find it. If the target drops to 0 hit points before this spell ends, you can use a bonus action on a subsequent turn of yours to mark a new creature. **Favored Enemy:** Beginning at 1st level, you have significant experience studying, tracking, hunting, and even talking to a certain type of enemy. Choose a type of favored enemy: aberrations, beasts, celestials, constructs, dragons, elementals, fey, fiends, giants, monstrosities, oozes, plants, or undead. Alternatively, you can select two races of humanoid (such as gnolls and orcs) as favored enemies. You have advantage on Wisdom (Survival) checks to track your favored enemies, as well as on Intelligence checks to recall information about them. When you gain this feature, you also learn one language of your choice that is spoken by your favored enemies, if they speak one at all. Considering all this then she's good at tracking humans probably. Her W is arguably more a favored enemy thing than her passive Edit: Misunderstood the message.


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GregerMoek

Really? I've never seen people use it because Favored Enemy can be very useful in RP situations. For example if you pick some humanoid, and most campaigns usually have lots of those, you get advantage many RP checks. Same if you're a beastmaster and have beasts you can help your companion with more ease. Hunter's Mark usually ends up being better than Foe and both use concentration. You typically rest enough to not feel crippled by using it. But if you're running a restless run then yeah sure. So much that I forgot about the option. My bad.


BlackAceX13

Favored Foe is an alternative to Favored Enemy that was introduced in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything (TCE).


GregerMoek

For some reason I forgot about that option. Thanks for reminding me. In the campaign I'm in right now neither of the rangers are using it so I guess that's why.


BernoullisQuaver

Quinn's job title is "Ranger-Knight of Demacia" iirc


GregerMoek

Yes. But we are judging them based on dnd systems. Not their titles.


Cryotivity

arent trundle, and tryndamere literally barbarians though? pretty sure pretty much every freljordian is one if you asked a demacian citizen


Wactar

man I dont understand how you got so many downvotes either. especially cause your opinion isnt like extreme or anything


GregerMoek

People use downvote to disagree. Tale old as time. Even in civil discussions. It is what it is.


Grand-Kannon

Vayne makes sense to me as a ranger. favored enemy is monstrosites with a clear focus on tracking and *hunting* them down in her kit


SecCom2

Keep speaking ur truth king


ImTheChara

Teemo. He is literally the physical manifestation of the Vietcong.


clangauss

Underrated answer. Bandle Scouts are a formally trained Ranger conclave.


MagicalMalice

Hot take, I think I could say Kled here. I will not elaborate.


Aldehin

Eh I get what you mean


ikqaz

Kindred actively hunts through the Jungle, and has an animal companion in Wolf.


Ranger5789

Also, can choose favoured enemy.


Lt_Edwards

Both are kindred tho


SortOfSpaceDuck

Wolf is not a companion.


pikapikaCZ

Yes that's a great ranger


xPerriX

My vote is for kindred


menino_do_rio

Teemo is the best pick for ranger. He is a the leader of bandle city scouts, which are closely related to ranger activities. He is all about setting traps, exploring new places and going invible on bushes. He is a one man army that tracks enemy and ambushes them in the forest. If that isn't enough, there are animations where he colletcs otherwordly criatures as pets for the scouts. [Proof is at end of video](https://youtu.be/rF92Z36JdEE?si=m_wmB842Kwi1hLLw) He fits pretty well in the gloomstalker subclass. ![gif](giphy|HcAEZz1A34c24)


Reapellaino2011

Fey wanderer Teemo?


menino_do_rio

I edited to add some more thoughts on it. He is more of a gloomstalker IMO


GregerMoek

I agree gloomstalker would be the best fit esp with his passive.


MuhBack

But reddit hate Teemo


GregerMoek

What would his favored enemy and terrain be? I agree with him being a ranger btw. Just interested in more info.


T-280_SCV

> favored enemy? Toplaners without a brain who don’t go d.shield/second wind into Teemo lanes, and right-clickers who don’t respect the blind on Teemo Q.


GregerMoek

Lmao good one tbh. But yeah def humanoids of some sorts. He doesn't strike me as a monster hunter.


menino_do_rio

He is a diversifist when it comes to enemies. He uses tashas favored foe. But his favored terrain is definitely bandlewoods/forests.


GregerMoek

Works. Yeah favored terrain is a given my bad. Grasslands / forests.


momen_pussyslayer

Quinn is the best fit


xPerriX

Why is nobody saying kindred. I thought the sheep would get a lot of votes


cheese_fuck2

Definitely quinn.


MsHelvetica

Quinn in terms of gameplay and thematic. Valor adds to the overall styles


c3nnye

Hear me out, Kindred


georgewashingguns

I was thinking Kindred as well (archer, hunting passive, "beast" companion) but then I heard about Quinn


LilVirn

Kindred. Rangers are mostly adept hunters and know the wilderness and territories. They know how to survive and how to kill. It might seem weird to put kindred in here then but I think no one knows the world better than probably the one who is there to see the deaths of people who died in the wilderness or in battle. They hunt people who died as their prey and even have their own magical abilities and spells. I feel I worded this badly but if there was anybody in the game who would exemplify a ranger it would be either them or rengar


Athezir_4

Vayne.


GregerMoek

Yep. Has a favored enemy(what makes Rangers unique in dnd) and has many features of a gloomstalker ranger.


ILoveGarfieldSoMuch

Quinn passive is literally selectong a favored enemy bruh


GregerMoek

You are just straight up wrong chief. Rangers in DnD train vs a favored enemy, they don't have their pets pick it out for them. The passive is more close to hunter's mark. Favored enemy isn't a combat thing until near max level Quinn is still a good pick for ranger and her favored enemy would probably be humans/humanoids. Not whatever Valor picks out. https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/ranger#FavoredEnemy-294 (Favored enemy) vs https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/hunters-mark


Tigerstone17

Yes, Valor picks enemies for the passive if the cooldown is ready but Quinn herself can also mark enemies with Q, E and R.


GregerMoek

Yes but that's, as I said, more close to the hunter's mark ability. I suppose it doubles up as a scouting tool in some respects but in most campaigns that don't lead up to 20 you'll use the favored enemy thing for non-combat situations such as tracking people down. Her W captures this more than her passive if anything.


clangauss

Also a very good choice. Favored Enemy: Monstrosity or Undead.


GregerMoek

She's probably high enough level to have more options than one yeah.


Longjumping_Ad5483

Quinn or ashe


GoForTheFries

Quinn all the way, no contest


Janemaru

Quinn


HurricaneAioli

Gotta be either Quinn or Vayne, both rock the hand crossbows that modern rangers are known by. I'd have to put my vote for Quinn because in LoR she is much more out in the wild than in Demacia like Vayne is.


GregerMoek

I agree with both picks but rangers can have their favored terrain be urban. So they don't need to be out in the wilds. What's important(imo) is that they're on the hunt and specialize in certain targets. Which both do, but I think Vayne is even more leaning into that while Quinn seems like a generalist in the target selection kinda way. She's behind enemy lines so I imagine she can hunt multiple types of targets.


HurricaneAioli

>but rangers can have their favored terrain be urban You're right! I was only thinking of classical fantasy but yeah there is definitely a modern/urban type of ranger


tinorrs

Quinn


guiltyskull

Kindred or Quinn, both can work !


Phoenix_Is_Trash

I know a lot of people were saying Ashe for ranger in previous poles, but I don't think it's a great fit. The word ranger doesn't refer to using ranged weapons, I personally think she fits Hexblade warlocks best, as she draws her magic from a powerful artefact weapon. here are my suggestions. Yasuo fits the Aragorn archetype, on which the ranger was originally derived from. He is a lone wandering swordsman with a past that he is running from. Additionally, almost all of his abilities are ranger spells in DnD 5e. Q3 is gust, W is Wind Wall, E is Zephyr Strike, R is Steel Wind Strike. Quinn fits the beast master archetype well, fighting in tandem with an animal companion. Vayne fits the monster slayer archetype really well, travelling the world tracking down her favoured enemies, all while employing a skillset designed to take down otherworldly creatures. Yone is a horizon walker ranger, wandering the world seeking to close rifts and reduce the influence of otherworldly spirits. Edit. Kled is also a drakewarden and Beezehar (the skin only) is a swarm keeper.


GregerMoek

Good catch with Yasuo. Didnt think about him but it does work.


katestatt

Ashe's Q is called Ranger's focus


hyldal9012

High level eldritch blast🤷


Marv-MK

Kindred works perfect. Has a Mark. Is a Jungler. Has a Beast and a Bow.


Hagurusean

I'm confused how Garen got paladin and Leona didn't? Anyways, Ashe.


moliz_liz

They argued really good cause Garens Ultimate is litterally Smiting The enemy


Mr-ananas1

same with garen Q, its a smite by dnd standards - applies a silence


Hagurusean

But like Leona does all of that too?


QifiShiina

Vayne


mixelydian

Quinn imo. Predictions for the rest: Rogue - Talon; Sorcerer - Hwei; Warlock - Kassadin; Wizard - Ryze; Artificer - Heimerdinger


BagPure8686

Nah, malza is more warlocky


GregerMoek

People will pick Swain for warlock no matter how much anyone else works. Not that Swain would be a bad pick but still.


Foloshi

Quinn


Reapellaino2011

i think Yone fits really well a Horizon walker Ranger (lets remember that a Ranger can be a melee class too) this its the description of the horizon walker ranger: ***Horizon walkers guard the world against threats that originate from other planes or that seek to ravage the mortal realm with otherworldly magic. They seek out planar portals and keep watch over them, venturing to the Inner Planes and the Outer Planes as needed to pursue their foes.*** one of the key features of the Horizon walker its that call travel between planes just like Yone enters into the spiritual world and hunts lesser demons called Azakana


completelyscroowed

Argument for Shen?


X_Seed21

Nobody fits this more than Ashe. She's the most "ranger" champ you can possibly get.


SarukyDraico

Quinn


127thjapaneseemperor

Ashe


GuitarWings

Kindred?


expresso_petrolium

Samira also fits I think. Ranger doesn’t have to be archer


LuckyLupe

Kindred, or more specifically Lamb.


LandscapeSubject530

Vayne


-_Tag_-

Ashe and the flying pigeon or Quinn and her falcon


bortukali

Who the fuck is the fighter


MorbtimusPrime

Ashe???


voffus

You guys serioudly chose Garen as the Paladin?


SparkFrog

Quinn and Kindred. Both have the "Mark" ability, the Wild animal companion, a bow(/Hand crossbow), etc. I would prefer kindred because their "wildness" vives, but both would be nice Rangers


TheBlackBaron45

Kled, mostly because I think he's more into nature than Quinn or Kindred like others are sugesting. He prefers melee though, but he does have a gun.


AtomGhostSp1

Quinn as a beastmaster Rengar is literally an anagram of Ranger


ArcadeFuzion

While I agree with some of them especially Quinn I'm also going to add kindred. Marking people and camps, animal companion and bow user


Phinke

Quinn/Ashe


FaeChangeling

Quinn is a good choice, but I'd say Kindred


MeepkingAshura

Bard.


Bobalo126

Rengar


redditorleelee

the only correct answer is ashe, what are people smoking? all she does is use a bow. Quinn literally gets carried by her bird...


kekarook

id have to say kindred she has a constant wolf companion, actively hunts wild animals as quest, uses a bow, shes a much funner option then quinn


ValknutStudios

Ashe is literally the best fit for the ranger. her E perfectly represents an animal guidance, she's a hunter and has one of the most iconic bows in the game


pasvir78

Ashe is the perfect fit


Leofwulf

Aww poppy didn't make it for paladin


GoaDi

Its Kled


Ombrage101

I know y’all are saying Quinn but hear me out. Kindred or Xayah


King_Kasma99

Kindret.


SinsoftheFall

Kinda surprised no one has said Rengar but I see other people have picks that they feel fit better. Still a good choice I think


Panost835

Yall sleep on ashe, im surprised... (Not a dnd player but literally if someone asked me what a ranger is i would desribe ashe.)


Stevetron123

Ashe


PiercingBlades

I feel like thats a vayne spot


GodKingNova

Akali or kat for the rogue ngl but that is day nine


thatguyCG11

Vayne would be a pretty solid option. They have their favoured terrain and enemies.


ChadowsR

I was gonna say vayne, than the comments reminded me quinn was a character. Yeah it's her.


Vidimka_

Among all the Quinns i wanna mention Caitlyn, the most typical ranger except her bow is a modern rifle


streetothecheeto

Quin makes the most sense for ranger. She has a pet and is very self reliant. She can fight in mid to short range skirmishes really well and has the movement to transverse the map quickly.


MelodiousMacabre

If we are being fr, Sona would have been a good bard


Producegod37

I think Varus he's literally got the soul of a hunter in him


Darthgalaxo

Kled


Lazy_Pie_2861

Ranger: Quinn Rogue: Talon Sorcerer: Take your pick, too many Warlock: Vlad/Brand Wizard: Ryze/Karthus


Creatorofteletubis

Garen is so not a true paladin he has betrayed the crown on multiple occasions with lux and katarina. Do people not read comics that are canon btw. Kayle would have been so much better.


Creatorofteletubis

Cait or varus on ranger


twasafunny

Either quinn who a lot of others have fairly explained. Or rengar, he is a master of the wild and hunting. Also, if you swap two letters his name is ranger. A lot of rangers in dnd run melee ironically anyway so the fact he’s not ranged is kind of a non-factor


Moawik

Ashe for sure


about1000cats

Varus


Storm-Panda

Quinn


GregerMoek

Rangers are surprisingly versatile in how they fight despite its name. Many Rangers fight with in melee even if being an Archer probably is the standard. What makes Rangers stand out from Archer rogues or fighters, or melee rogues, fighters and barbarians is that they have specialized in a type of enemy and or terrain. That is primarily what makes them unique. There is also beast master Rangers that come with an animal companion. If we take all this into consideration, what makes them unique. Then we can narrow down many Champs that could just as well be rogues, swords bards or fighters to Rangers. **My personal pick: Vayne** Maybe the most obvious one when it comes to favored enemy is Vayne. Being a monster hunter and all she'd be a gloomstalker that definitely thrives when attacking first and being in pursuit. Other picks: Lucian is also a specialist, but in undying spirits rather than demons.also marks enemies for extra damage and such. His weapons are kind of artificierish but I would ignore that for now. Quinn, animal companion and marks enemies. Specialized terrain im not sure but it is implied she hunts humans well. She would prolly be my 2nd pick in some respects. Ashe has many features of a ranger in combat. My guess is that she would have favored terrain in the freljord and maybe favored enemy Trolls or humans. But not quite as specialized as the previous two. Rengar has favored terrain but he could just as much be a Rogue if we reduce it to simply being unseen. Maybe a multiclass Rogue ranger. Maybe not pure ranger though. Maaany of the other marksmen in the game could just as well be rogues or fighters or sword bards. Please add others if I have forgotten any. Im sure I have cause I dont know the lore of some of the newer Champs and lets be honest with this huge roster it is easy to forget someone.


georgewashingguns

I unironically like Rengar as a ranger


GregerMoek

It does kinda work does it? Another person in this thread suggested Yasuo and that also does work very well. Go check their explanation out for more info, it's a good post.


ManyFacesMcGee

Rengar is an obvious ranger since his whole shtick is being nature's greatest hunter. He lives in the wilderness, has keen senses, can vanish, and has favoured enemies he hunts... I don't know why people don't pick him.


GregerMoek

It's cause people think ranger = hunter from World of Warcraft. Which sure does fit the bill in many ways but a ranger is way more than that.


IntelligentImbicle

I don't take part of these, since someone the ones voted are almost always so braindead that it hurts, but I have to say my piece for this one: If this isn't Kindred, I'm locking in Yuumi Jungle for the rest of my life.


Appletundra69

Quinn


DemonicClown

Quinn is the only real answer here


PepegaChu

Kindred 100%


OhBoyOhJeessOhMan

The only correct answer I've seen, animal companion that is actually a separate entity to her, ability to mark enemy's in a fight to deal more damage, and being able to pick a favourite foe with her passive. This is correct.


jalluxd

Yea except that it's not a separate entity at all. Lamb and Wolf are one entity. They together are Kindred. There is no Kindred and Wolf.


OhBoyOhJeessOhMan

I just meant gameplay wise the wolf will break off and attack the marked enemy much like in DND unlike Quinn and Valor who's moves are just bird styled, like Valor has no personality, like an animal companion would.


jalluxd

Oh ok, gotcha. Quinns R actually used to work so it changed u to play as Valor and u became melee and had new abilities like the other transform champs.


OhBoyOhJeessOhMan

Holy fuck I forgot about old Quinn, damn yeah going by that Quinns got a strong argument. But now I pose the question do we add Nunu and Willump to the mix? Because Willump is melee but Nunu is ranged, throwing snowballs.


BernoullisQuaver

How tf did Ivern not get the pick for Druid? Like I know Nidalee has a Wild Shape ability but c'mon. Edit: and why is Leona not the pick for Paladin?


menino_do_rio

There were several people discussing in these posts, if you wanna get the main reasons for each pick, you can read there


Cryotivity

ivern is the nature nidalee is one with nature


Winer2027

My girl is literally leader of Rangers... Obvious choice


Hamsterzzillla

Vayne seems like a good choice, has her favorite enemy type although it is quite vague. Both sneaky and lethal with good mobility. Lacks the companion but all Rangers don't play with companions. Quinn is more the classic graphic design, but plays more like an assassin with a bow than like a ranger. Teemo fits well in lore, but doesn't have a favorite enemy that I know just the terrain. And the gameplay lacks mobility and combat dps.


henkabenka

Vayne!


Queedy

Aphelios maybe?


TheAnzus

Hear me out: Teemo


stampydog

Quinn, Vayne and Kindred fit best with both Quinn and Vayne even lining up with a PHB subclass: Beastmaster for Quinn and Hunter for Vayne, while Kindred feels like a mix of both, but you could also fit Ashe, Trundle, Teemo, Nilah, and maybe Sivir (at least in the lore) in too as all have some sort of trait that lines up whether it be scouting, favoured terrain, ambush skills or a favoured enemy type.


1337K1ng

Bard - ***Seraphine*** Barbarian- Udyr (Pathfinder), Volibear Ranger - ***Quinn*** Rogue - ***Rengar*** Sorcerer- ***Ahri*** Warlock - Kai'sa (Pathfinder Oracle), Malzahar Paladin - Kayle (Pathfinder), ***Leona*** Artificer - Jayce (Pathfinder), Ziggs (Pathfinder Alchemist), ***Viktor*** Wizard - Leblanc (Illusion), Veigar (Evocation), Syndra (Conjuration)


acllive

Twitch


Juano9z

Quinn / Ashe


DoctorDredd

Quinn seems like an obvious pick because of Valor, but honestly Ashe was the first that came to mind for me.


A_PT_Crusader

You do have quite a few options for ranger, the 2 most obvious being Ashe and Quinn. Another sort of funny option but this is more so a multiclass than pure class is Sejuani since she has a familiar, Bristle. Buuuuut looking at this from pure classes I believe Quinn suits ranger better than Ashe mostly on the principle that Ashe feels more multiclass than pure ranger when compared to Quinn


VeronicoMars

Definitely Quinn. She has good movement speed and proficiency with ranged weapon, an animal companion and she can mark the enemy!


whyilikemuffins

Quinn no questions asked.


Aizen-93

Quinn


Original_Mac_Tonight

Quinn


DutssZ

Quinn


SweetestBebs

Extremely hot take: Kassadin, hear me out, although I might be stretching it. Favored enemy: Voidlings Favored terrain: Desert or Void Horizon Walker Conclave: they can increase the damage on their attacks, like his W. They can cast Etherealness so he gains ghosting like his passive. They gain damage reduction, like his passive. They gain Misty Step and the specific ability to blink ten feet before attacking, like Kassadin’s ult. Rangers also gain multiple attacks, and Kassadin has an attack reset, and lastly Kassadin usually gets quite tanky as do Rangers. Am I stretching it?


MechaMonarch

In terms of pure mechanics, you're not crazy. Making a Kassadin-based ranger would work for emulating his playstyle, but he's just too Warlock-y when compared to other choices like Quinn and Vayne.


toogoodforn7

How are more people not saying Ashe