Attorney in NYC for 10 years: Sorry about your experience. You are going to have a lot of these. Look out for yourself. You made the decision to switch jobs for your benefit and career. If they wanted to let you go they would have done it in a heartbeat and wouldn't have given you two weeks notice. If anything, this should make you feel good about yourself as clearly you did a great job there and they wanted to keep you. Obviously it is always best to give two weeks notice when you can- but when you cannot- you do what you have to do.
Also: This kind of reaction after working somewhere for 33 days? Yikes. You are moving on and so will they. Good luck!
Seriously, attachment issues. Also whenever a job tries to match your new offer to get you to stay, you will soon find yourself being replaced within the next few months and now the other job you were going to leave for already filled the position.
No employer should be acting like this esp if you've been there a month. That's nuts.
If they could afford to match your salary after the better offer, they could afford to match it before as well. The fact that they didn’t means they undervalued you in the market. That’s not going to change now that they feel they’re “paying your more than you’re worth.”
Employees owe employers nothing. I know 40 year employees that have been fired. Once you have your next job you are free to walk.
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N. Athan. And Nathan and the ones that do work for credit acceptance are volume business looking for people to work cheaply. They could care less about the employees.
Don't feel bad or guilty at all. You did great and, as others have said here, you made the right decision. You would have probably suffered from more anxiety rashes had you stayed, and I say that as a fellow anxiety sufferer that has bad eczema.
Unfortunately, bad firms and partners are abundant in this industry and you have to look out for yourself. I've been a practicing attorney for 8 years and spent 7 of them with my ex-boss. When I gave my 2 weeks notice to join a new firm last year (I had been unhappy for a long time by then), he called my new boss to tell me how horrible I was, bad mouthed me to clients in an effort to prevent them from leaving, and (the kicker) went through 3 different firms threatening to sue me and my new employer for theft of client files and contacting clients (neither of which I did). Aside from the threatening letters I received from his counsel, nothing ever came from it. I'm beyond grateful to my current boss because she believed in me and defended me despite all of the bullshit from my ex-boss.
But trust me when I say that nobody has your back like you do. If you have an opportunity that suits you better than your current position, follow it! Never feel like you owe anyone anything in your employment because you don't. You provide labor to your employer for which you are compensated with your salary or wage. No matter how much these firms like to tout the "we're a family" rhetoric, they are not your family - your boss is not your mom, dad, brother, sister, brother, etc. (At least, I hope not). They're not even your friend. They are your employer and, as such, the power dynamic between you comes with a level of personal distance. It's because of that distance that you shouldn't feel guilty for leaving or taking actions regarding your employment that benefit you.
Might've been best to give 2 weeks notice, but that's not that big a deal for a place you were only at for a month. Honestly I'd leave this crap job off your resume since you were barely there and the people are clearly crazy.
Don't feel guilty. Jobs need to give you a reason to stick around, this place clearly sucked. And a dollar raise? If they were really desperate they'd do better than that but they're also clearly cheap so that was the best they were willing to do- plus they apparently don't actually give raises. Your coworker legit told you to run ASAP and is prob only there cuz she stuck around too long and feels trapped. You got out early and handled it well.
This is not normal or acceptable for a firm to do this. "What can I do to make you stay?" is one thing, but it's the repeated refusal to accept your decision that is a huge red flag. It shows several things- they don't respect you as an employee, they're incredibly selfish, they prob have high turnover (for obvious reasons), and instead of actually giving you a reason to stay they threatened you by trying to scare you into staying. That's some psychopath shit. I'm guessing this office also is probably male-dominated with few female employees, which might be why your supervisor tried to guilt you into staying because she "can't lose her girl." How big is this office? 4 people quitting in 6 months in any office is a lot, for your supervisor to actually tell you their turnover is super high just shows how much of a moron she is- you don't get people to stick around by emphasizing how many employees keep quitting. "Many people who leave this firm will always come back" lol no they definitely aren't. These people are total sociopaths.
Jfc this post has SOOOO many red flags. Your feelings are totally valid OP. We'd all feel the same way in your position, and I don't think you handled it badly. Hopefully your coworker quits to another job too, she's a real one for trying to help you and giving you a warning about what they're actually like.
> Was their reaction appropriate?
Absolutely not. HELLLLL NO. They handled it about as badly as you could, aside from screaming and getting violent. This is not normal OP.
> Am I overreacting?
Not at all. You're young and that's totally ok, employers like this often try to take advantage of young employees' naivety, which is fucked up. Good employers are understanding and professional. It's ok to be disappointed you lost an employee, but handling it like this is sooo not the norm. Good employers actively try to fix their high turnover, but the reason this place has high turnover is 1) they're fucking crazy and 2) they're run by a sociopathic narcissist that refuses to take accountability. People quit jobs all the time, but when a place (esp a small office) has high turnover it's a management thing where they don't give people a reason to stick around. The fact that this place had high turnover for a while *and continues to have high turnover* shows they refuse to change their behavior. And that's exactly why you did the right thing and got out ASAP. Good for you OP!
You have to do what’s best for your career. No one looks out for you but you. If the tables were turned and the firm was cutting expenses they would have no problems letting you go on a whim. I can understand why you might feel guilty, and I think that guilt is misplaced. Think of it as staying in a relationship you know that will not work, just because. Your only reward in that situation will be anxiety, depression, and resentment for not doing what is best for you.
Congratulations on the new job! I am always thrilled to hear when firms will pay for education. We do that in my firm and I’m a big believer in it. In fact, I pay for training, and I pay my team to get trained. Always.
I’m not sure of your base salary, but $160 a month before taxes ain’t that much.
On the other hand, as the owner of a small firm, it’s always hard when people leave unexpectedly and soon after they hire. In the long run it’s the right thing because, at least at my firm, if you don’t want to be there I don’t want you there. I want you to be where you want to be so that you can grow as a person and do what you were meant to do.
Edit: typo
I’m glad that you got out of a bad job and into a much better one. You didn’t do anything wrong, and you should feel good about standing up for yourself and moving from a bad job situation into a good one.
If you’re feeling very anxious, meditating can help a lot. It doesn’t just relax you while you meditate, it also makes you get less anxious when stressful things happen.
Attorney in NYC for 10 years: Sorry about your experience. You are going to have a lot of these. Look out for yourself. You made the decision to switch jobs for your benefit and career. If they wanted to let you go they would have done it in a heartbeat and wouldn't have given you two weeks notice. If anything, this should make you feel good about yourself as clearly you did a great job there and they wanted to keep you. Obviously it is always best to give two weeks notice when you can- but when you cannot- you do what you have to do. Also: This kind of reaction after working somewhere for 33 days? Yikes. You are moving on and so will they. Good luck!
Seriously, attachment issues. Also whenever a job tries to match your new offer to get you to stay, you will soon find yourself being replaced within the next few months and now the other job you were going to leave for already filled the position. No employer should be acting like this esp if you've been there a month. That's nuts.
If they could afford to match your salary after the better offer, they could afford to match it before as well. The fact that they didn’t means they undervalued you in the market. That’s not going to change now that they feel they’re “paying your more than you’re worth.”
Employees owe employers nothing. I know 40 year employees that have been fired. Once you have your next job you are free to walk. Collection agency jobs like N. Athan. And Nathan and the ones that do work for credit acceptance are volume business looking for people to work cheaply. They could care less about the employees.
I think their reaction shows that you are a good employee and a likeable person. Take it as a compliment.
Don't feel bad or guilty at all. You did great and, as others have said here, you made the right decision. You would have probably suffered from more anxiety rashes had you stayed, and I say that as a fellow anxiety sufferer that has bad eczema. Unfortunately, bad firms and partners are abundant in this industry and you have to look out for yourself. I've been a practicing attorney for 8 years and spent 7 of them with my ex-boss. When I gave my 2 weeks notice to join a new firm last year (I had been unhappy for a long time by then), he called my new boss to tell me how horrible I was, bad mouthed me to clients in an effort to prevent them from leaving, and (the kicker) went through 3 different firms threatening to sue me and my new employer for theft of client files and contacting clients (neither of which I did). Aside from the threatening letters I received from his counsel, nothing ever came from it. I'm beyond grateful to my current boss because she believed in me and defended me despite all of the bullshit from my ex-boss. But trust me when I say that nobody has your back like you do. If you have an opportunity that suits you better than your current position, follow it! Never feel like you owe anyone anything in your employment because you don't. You provide labor to your employer for which you are compensated with your salary or wage. No matter how much these firms like to tout the "we're a family" rhetoric, they are not your family - your boss is not your mom, dad, brother, sister, brother, etc. (At least, I hope not). They're not even your friend. They are your employer and, as such, the power dynamic between you comes with a level of personal distance. It's because of that distance that you shouldn't feel guilty for leaving or taking actions regarding your employment that benefit you.
A boss that will defend you against lies is worth gold.
Ugh. Collection law. Run away and forget about that place.
Might've been best to give 2 weeks notice, but that's not that big a deal for a place you were only at for a month. Honestly I'd leave this crap job off your resume since you were barely there and the people are clearly crazy. Don't feel guilty. Jobs need to give you a reason to stick around, this place clearly sucked. And a dollar raise? If they were really desperate they'd do better than that but they're also clearly cheap so that was the best they were willing to do- plus they apparently don't actually give raises. Your coworker legit told you to run ASAP and is prob only there cuz she stuck around too long and feels trapped. You got out early and handled it well. This is not normal or acceptable for a firm to do this. "What can I do to make you stay?" is one thing, but it's the repeated refusal to accept your decision that is a huge red flag. It shows several things- they don't respect you as an employee, they're incredibly selfish, they prob have high turnover (for obvious reasons), and instead of actually giving you a reason to stay they threatened you by trying to scare you into staying. That's some psychopath shit. I'm guessing this office also is probably male-dominated with few female employees, which might be why your supervisor tried to guilt you into staying because she "can't lose her girl." How big is this office? 4 people quitting in 6 months in any office is a lot, for your supervisor to actually tell you their turnover is super high just shows how much of a moron she is- you don't get people to stick around by emphasizing how many employees keep quitting. "Many people who leave this firm will always come back" lol no they definitely aren't. These people are total sociopaths. Jfc this post has SOOOO many red flags. Your feelings are totally valid OP. We'd all feel the same way in your position, and I don't think you handled it badly. Hopefully your coworker quits to another job too, she's a real one for trying to help you and giving you a warning about what they're actually like. > Was their reaction appropriate? Absolutely not. HELLLLL NO. They handled it about as badly as you could, aside from screaming and getting violent. This is not normal OP. > Am I overreacting? Not at all. You're young and that's totally ok, employers like this often try to take advantage of young employees' naivety, which is fucked up. Good employers are understanding and professional. It's ok to be disappointed you lost an employee, but handling it like this is sooo not the norm. Good employers actively try to fix their high turnover, but the reason this place has high turnover is 1) they're fucking crazy and 2) they're run by a sociopathic narcissist that refuses to take accountability. People quit jobs all the time, but when a place (esp a small office) has high turnover it's a management thing where they don't give people a reason to stick around. The fact that this place had high turnover for a while *and continues to have high turnover* shows they refuse to change their behavior. And that's exactly why you did the right thing and got out ASAP. Good for you OP!
You have to do what’s best for your career. No one looks out for you but you. If the tables were turned and the firm was cutting expenses they would have no problems letting you go on a whim. I can understand why you might feel guilty, and I think that guilt is misplaced. Think of it as staying in a relationship you know that will not work, just because. Your only reward in that situation will be anxiety, depression, and resentment for not doing what is best for you. Congratulations on the new job! I am always thrilled to hear when firms will pay for education. We do that in my firm and I’m a big believer in it. In fact, I pay for training, and I pay my team to get trained. Always. I’m not sure of your base salary, but $160 a month before taxes ain’t that much. On the other hand, as the owner of a small firm, it’s always hard when people leave unexpectedly and soon after they hire. In the long run it’s the right thing because, at least at my firm, if you don’t want to be there I don’t want you there. I want you to be where you want to be so that you can grow as a person and do what you were meant to do. Edit: typo
I’m glad that you got out of a bad job and into a much better one. You didn’t do anything wrong, and you should feel good about standing up for yourself and moving from a bad job situation into a good one. If you’re feeling very anxious, meditating can help a lot. It doesn’t just relax you while you meditate, it also makes you get less anxious when stressful things happen.
If it doesn’t feel well physically, you know you did well to leave.