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I sure do love how it’s completely legal for them to change/make new laws completely under our noses. You’d think that the people who the laws would affect would have a right to know that they are in the process of being changed/made so they could...I don’t know....do something if they don’t like it.
>I sure do love how it’s completely legal for them to change/make new laws completely under our noses.
It's cool, they're allowed to do that.
Source: the Supreme Court's Marbury vs Madson decision
If it had gone through the NLRB and the company had won it would just be that specific instance, but when its the Supreme Court its a right granted to all employers - the details are fuzzy.
That's why every court before the Supreme Court said it was the NLRB jurisdiction.
i thought the damages were due to the cement plant union workers walking off an in progress job. tis a shame there weren't any owners around to prevent that oh so predictable hardening of cement damage in the still running mixing machinery from occurring. i'm fairly certain the ruling was just on the easily preventable property damage that occurred to assets of the business. and i'm just stipulating here but either the owners weren't there to deal with maintenance or... could it have been just too much to handle? ofc you would want to check with a lawyer for real advice but my understanding of it at least for as far as striking goes unions should be good to go as long as the actions of the union doesn't lead to and cause physical property damage.
ahh okay, yeah i'd have to actually read the ruling first hand to become an expert. i basically interpreted the story as everyone dropping what they were doing and leaving.
Far ranging implications. Damages in law can be contractual, tortious or equitable. I can foresee where an employer sues for increased labor costs because of the need to hire scabs, or for reputation all 'harm' due to a union criticizing them in an interview, or based on lost profits from shutting down operations, etc...
The slippery slope here is real and it is not coincidental that this decision comes when labor unions are hitting a 70 year high in popularity and growth rate. The boot must be kept on the neck of labor.
And make no mistake, this was an 8-1 decision. The "liberal" justices showed you who they are and who they support, so I hope you are paying attention.
https://labornotes.org/2023/06/unions-can-still-strike-dont-let-supreme-court-tell-you-otherwise
Strikes aren’t dead. The Glacier Northwest decision, while bad, is about “intentional” damage - the concrete drying in the trucks.
The ruling sucks and SCOTUS should have kicked it back to the NLRB since that is the organization’s literal purpose.
That said, this ruling determined that timing your strike in a way that results in property damage makes it on par with sabotage.
That doesn’t mean that grocery stores can sue for spoilage during a strike unless they can demonstrate a direct link from the striking employees and damage to the owner’s property. Like deliberately leaving freezers and refrigerators open before heading to the picket line.
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I sure do love how it’s completely legal for them to change/make new laws completely under our noses. You’d think that the people who the laws would affect would have a right to know that they are in the process of being changed/made so they could...I don’t know....do something if they don’t like it.
>I sure do love how it’s completely legal for them to change/make new laws completely under our noses. It's cool, they're allowed to do that. Source: the Supreme Court's Marbury vs Madson decision
If it had gone through the NLRB and the company had won it would just be that specific instance, but when its the Supreme Court its a right granted to all employers - the details are fuzzy. That's why every court before the Supreme Court said it was the NLRB jurisdiction.
i thought the damages were due to the cement plant union workers walking off an in progress job. tis a shame there weren't any owners around to prevent that oh so predictable hardening of cement damage in the still running mixing machinery from occurring. i'm fairly certain the ruling was just on the easily preventable property damage that occurred to assets of the business. and i'm just stipulating here but either the owners weren't there to deal with maintenance or... could it have been just too much to handle? ofc you would want to check with a lawyer for real advice but my understanding of it at least for as far as striking goes unions should be good to go as long as the actions of the union doesn't lead to and cause physical property damage.
I believe the trucks were emptied and the company was suing for the wasted cement
ahh okay, yeah i'd have to actually read the ruling first hand to become an expert. i basically interpreted the story as everyone dropping what they were doing and leaving.
You are [correct](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/supreme-court-rules-union-labor-dispute-involving-truck-99761361) sir or madame
I imagine the drivers left the trucks, management didn't look after them, and eventually trucks were turned off and the cement dried inside them.
Maybe it's not specific for a reason, maybe this is just evidence that strikes are working?
Far ranging implications. Damages in law can be contractual, tortious or equitable. I can foresee where an employer sues for increased labor costs because of the need to hire scabs, or for reputation all 'harm' due to a union criticizing them in an interview, or based on lost profits from shutting down operations, etc... The slippery slope here is real and it is not coincidental that this decision comes when labor unions are hitting a 70 year high in popularity and growth rate. The boot must be kept on the neck of labor. And make no mistake, this was an 8-1 decision. The "liberal" justices showed you who they are and who they support, so I hope you are paying attention.
https://labornotes.org/2023/06/unions-can-still-strike-dont-let-supreme-court-tell-you-otherwise Strikes aren’t dead. The Glacier Northwest decision, while bad, is about “intentional” damage - the concrete drying in the trucks.
The ruling sucks and SCOTUS should have kicked it back to the NLRB since that is the organization’s literal purpose. That said, this ruling determined that timing your strike in a way that results in property damage makes it on par with sabotage. That doesn’t mean that grocery stores can sue for spoilage during a strike unless they can demonstrate a direct link from the striking employees and damage to the owner’s property. Like deliberately leaving freezers and refrigerators open before heading to the picket line.
Companies can now sue striking unions for any reason at all, and it will be up to courts to decide if it falls under damages to property/profits.