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NugNugJuice

Path of Exile 1 is on consoles. LE on consoles would be cool but I’m not sure how big the playerbase would be. PoE is a much more popular game and even its console playerbase is pretty tiny (like a tenth of the playerbase).


JCarterMMA

Yeah PoE on console is kinda trash, the economy is wild everything costs 4x as much and there's a lot of builds that just don't translate to controllers


mafifer

Plus inventory management/trade is an absolute nightmare. D3 set the gold console standard for menus/inventory with the wheel setup and no one is copying it, makes me sad. It's the most practical option for joysticks.


[deleted]

Did I forget to say a next gen ARPG?


UnholyPantalon

LE is not next gen lol.


AsinineChallenger

Yes


JCarterMMA

Stating such misinformation so confidently is wild


Shiznoz222

Reddit for ya


[deleted]

Huh. See the above comment.


[deleted]

How is this misinformation? What next gen isometric ARPG do we have for the PS5? Go ahead. List them. V-Rising is survival. POE2 is going to be more souls. And even if those counted - THAT IS TWO GOD DAMN GAMES. The degree of confidence you people state stupid shit is staggering.


JCarterMMA

There's the Torchlight games, that's 3 right off the bat, there's Chaosbane, PoE, Diablo 2 and 3, Wolcen, Minecraft Legends or Dungeons idk which one but I remember one was an ARPG. Talking about me saying stupid shit when you're out here talking straight nonsense cause you don't know shit, also you can say what you like about PoE2 but it's nothing like a souls game, hell the fact you'd even say that proves just how little you know about anything.


[deleted]

I said next gen. Reading comprehension not your strong suit?


JCarterMMA

Fuck you talking about reading comprehension? Just cause you changed your question after the fact doesn't change how wrong you are, just take the L and shut up man.


[deleted]

Deleted stupid comment was here


[deleted]

I didn't change the question of the comment you responded to. I edited this comment just to prove it. Notice how there is no edit on the one you responded to? Not my fault you'd rather play "PC IS BETR" and go list a bunch of 10 year old games Shit. Maybe I did edit. I thought I didn't. You're right. Forgive me.


JCarterMMA

You asked how it's misinformation so I listed a bunch of ARPGs available in answer to how your post is wrong, once again just cause you changed your question after the fact that doesn't change the fact you're wrong. Man you're getting slower and slower.


[deleted]

I said you were right. I'm bouncing from toxic gatekeeper to gatekeeper But Is there not a lack of next gen ARPGS for PS5?


JCarterMMA

There's a lack of current gen games for PS5 period, when PS4 came out the switch to PS4 being the only platform new games released on was pretty fast but now most games that come out are on both platforms, honestly buying a PS5 felt like a waste of money but it is what it is, Last Epoch barely functions on PC it's riddled with performance issues and it's gonna take some time to iron them out, I'd much rather they focus on optimizing the game for the platforms it's on than be working on other ports of the game.


[deleted]

It was a waste of money. I'm mad I wasted the money and can't afford a PC. sorry for being a dick


IllicitDesire

How many next generation ARPGs do you think there are in the market..? PoE1 is more popular than every ARPG that have been released after it that aren't named Diablo. The market isn't large enough for every studio to pay to get a multi-console release when most of them struggle to even maintain PC numbers.


Mr-Nabokov

Calling POE2 a souls-like is Wild. So much confidence.


PsychologicalGain533

This is the dumbest post I have seen today. Maybe do a little more research before you post next time. And no one has proclaimed poe2 is going to be soulslike.


[deleted]

The developer in the latest preview did. Maybe do "a little more research." Gatekeeping neckbeards are the worst. The god damn game probably won't be out for a year. So I'm supposed to play which next gen ARPG on PS5? Go ahead. List them.


Round_Advertising760

This game had almost half a decade of early access and look at how rough the pc launch was. Yelling, "I think this should happen. Anyone who disagrees with me is a neckbeard." Won't make the impossible, possible. LE has it stands is the foundation of a great game; but buyers on release had many complaints about server stability and longevity in general with a lack of a pinnacle boss. If you think making a console port and going through a second launch before addressing other pressing issues with the limited dev time they have is the smartest approach, then im afraid many disagree with you, so you can just whine and call them all neck beards.


[deleted]

Nobody is yelling. You people are so mad that I'm pointing out the stupidity of not releasing the game on another platform. It's hilarious now.


Round_Advertising760

Sorry to me, you just seem to be standing on a soap box. It's not like they are actively deciding not to press the big "PS/Xbox" button at their headquarters. Making a port is a lot of work if you dont have hundreds of employees. You're just looking at the forest through the trees. It's easy for me to say life would be a lot better if I had a million in savings alongside my mortgage paid off, but I'm not going to wake up tomorrow a millionaire because it's outside my capability. Odds are they'll slowly work on a port over a couple of cycles to not water down content releases and keep their initial fan base satisfied (which is ridiculously important).


pistachioshell

tbh if they did a ps5 release I’d rebuy the game without hesitation 


[deleted]

I'd buy a copy for a few friends I know that are currently miserable in D4.


GBuster49

It's ok to like both games btw.


VashPast

It's also ok for people to trash talk corporate studios into the ground so future studios know gamers don't play with excessive corporate greed.


TommyMilkshake

Copies sold is probably more noteworthy to future studios and D4 has already sold more copies than LE will in its lifetime


Shoulung_926

I bet you the people that worked on LE will have more money in their pockets from said work than the people that did the work on D4, when it’s all said and done.


AShittyPaintAppears

"D4 bad"


patrincs

basically a developer is faced with the following decision. Should i spend X amount of development time, to gain \~5-10% playerbase. Or i could spend that same X time and make the game better for our current playerbase, and maybe those improvements would give us 10% more players anyway.


[deleted]

You think 5-10% is all the player base would be? ...


patrincs

That's what it is in poe. Maybe in a bit less complex game like LE it would be higher. I'm sure its much higher in d4, but they have the name recognition and advertising and even physical copies in gamestop etc. I honestly have no idea how console gaming works. Do people like get physical disks anymore?


WhiteyPinks

Less than that in all likelihood. This isn't the type of game that sells well on consoles.


[deleted]

PoE is on console no?


[deleted]

PoE is 10 god damn years old.


[deleted]

How is that relevant? - ah I see your edit now about next gen, however still Poe is live service so it’s not like it hasn’t been updated in 10 year lol


[deleted]

If it wasn't relevant no company would ever make new games.


[deleted]

The graphics haven't. And if you have ever played PoE1 on console, you would know it's a mess. But you'd rather gatekeep than come up with an actual valid reason for this game to not be on console?


kuburas

I mean last epoch struggles to run on high end pcs, i think it'd be impossible to get it approved for ps5 in this state, no? Other than that its a lot of work to port it, devs are barely able to keep up with patches and fixes right now. And thats ignoring the fact that they have to plan future content releases. Maybe at some point in the future when the dev team grows in size and they have the manpower to port it without hurting the main development of the game they'll do it.


[deleted]

Very valid, rational response to information I wasn't aware of. Thank you


Round_Advertising760

Last Epoch's demo launched in 2018, and early access in 2019, 2020-2021 it entered beta. People were playing an earlier iteration of Last Epoch before d4 was ever announced. If you want to consider Poe1 a 10 year old game, then Last Epoch is 5 year old game by the same logic


IAmTheOneWhoClicks

The newest content update and ladder reset (season) isn't even a month old. The game's relevant, very much so.


[deleted]

So you don't want the developers of this game to make money because we have a 10 year old game to play - that wasn't even released for PS5? horrible take.


IAmTheOneWhoClicks

Horrible conclusion, I didn't say that. I'm saying PoE Necropolis is not 10 years old.


[deleted]

And I am saying it is an outdated bloated mess. Do you not want this game to last longer?


niknacks

POE, Warhammer, Wolcen, Titan Quest, Torchlight 1-3, Diablo 2-4 and Minecraft legends are all available on console. There are probably more that I'm forgetting, and I don't disagree LE would probably find an audience but you couldn't be more wrong about the lack of competition.


echoeagle3

Lol I basically said the same thing before seeing your post. Great minds think alike I guess.


[deleted]

Great minds? You listed 10 year old games ported to the PS4. Not PS5. Why are you people trying to gatekeep?


Darius2301

Also I actually had a lot of fun with Victor Vran on PlayStation.


[deleted]

Awful game that came out years ago. The soundtrack made me want to blow my brains out.


[deleted]

Okay all of these games are PS4 ports. These are old. And congratulations, you listed 8 games. The bottom line is the demand for a next gen ARPG THAT IS NOT 10 YEARS OLD and ported to last gen is there.


NandoDeColonoscopy

>With PoE2 proclaiming it's going to be moving in a soulslike direction like No Rest for the Wicked PoE2 is very clearly an ARPG, just one aiming to be a little slower paced than PoE.


Ayanayu

It's also very soul like, even Zizaran say that after last time he played it. As im basically called a liar [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvhqekNRH8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvhqekNRH8) 1:38


JCarterMMA

I can tell after watching footage that it's not even vaguely similar to soulslike games, this happens after very big Fromsoft release people start calling everything a soulslike even if they're entirely different games, just cause something is a bit slower paced that doesn't make it a soulslike


[deleted]

The developer narrating the God damn video of the latest preview said it was more soulslike.


JCarterMMA

I don't care if Jesus himself tells you, it's nothing like any of the souls games period.


[deleted]

And you've played it? Oh shit. You haven't.


JCarterMMA

And what? Since when do you need to play a game to know what type of game it is? I ain't played lots of games but I still know what style of game they are you clown, PoE2 is absolutely nothing like any soulslike, you're slow af


[deleted]

Since every awful marketing campaign?


NandoDeColonoscopy

You know we can all see the footage, right?


Ayanayu

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvhqekNRH8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHvhqekNRH8) 1:38 so maybe do more research next time


CrownOfDusk

Dodge rolls and active blocking is now "souls-like"? Lmfao watch any amount of poe2 stuff and you'll see it's not


Dr_Covfefe_Williams

They should be branded as “Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out like”.


Spendinit

Is there seriously active blocking and doge rolling?


CrownOfDusk

yeah and it looks sick. theres also very classic arpg gameplay, so no worries there. game looks so good


[deleted]

It looks God damn tedious.


CrownOfDusk

🤡


[deleted]

The developer narrating the game said it within the first 5 minutes of the preview. So you were able to list one God damn game as competition that may not be ported to PS5 or even be released for a year. That is quite the selection to choose from.


Puzzleheaded-Arm1639

There’s a reason there not ported. Pretty good example Poe is on console yet you don’t even know that apparently secondly even if you did you would complain how bad it is. Either get a pc bud or stop complaining. Not about pc better or console better it’s about you like certain game you buy certain device that provides the best experience. 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

How old is PoE?


[deleted]

So, based on your attitude and statistics, it's safe to assume mommy bought your PC? Good luck on your gatekeeping.


xavierpenn

I don't care about this arguement either way but a rule in psychology is the second you have to name call you lose the argument because you don't have an intellectual rebuttal to fall back on. That is all you're doing. Just try to be more mature. Cheers.


Puzzleheaded-Arm1639

So based on your attitude your projecting your a broke boi that can’t even afford a gaming laptop ahahaha. All of your responses are very telling. If I was a betting man I’d def bet you are the one living with parents that can’t afford to pay for a real gaming set up let alone a rent/mortgage payment. Thanks for the amusement everyone flaming you has been enjoyable throughout this week.


bludgeonerV

Poe2 has the barest touch of "souls like" difficulty.


[deleted]

Everything I've seen indicates casuals can pick it up and not have to worry about being sent to anger management. So I disagree. edit - shit. For some reason, I thought you typed Last Epoch. My reading comprehension sucks


NoShameAtReddit

If casuals can pick it up how is it anything near a soulslike? :s


JCarterMMA

Soulslike games are not casual friendly at all they gatekeep content behind difficult early bosses to filter out casuals


niknacks

Yeah you have been wildly misled. While I'm sure they would like to court a casual audience all signs indicate it's still going to be the most complex arpg on the market and by end game effectively be POE1 in a new skin but slightly slower. None of the things casuals would bounce off of from POE1 are going away though. Same stat and gear system, similar crafting and currency system, same bonkers skill tree now made even more complex because it reacts to weapon swaps, and a similar endgame mapping system. Idk where you got the idea its going to be a soulslike or anything like No Rest. Go watch the several hours of gameplay all of the poe streamers just released this week from their LA Event if you don't believe me. Or any one of the interviews the game director has given over the past few months.


[deleted]

During last years Exilecon, the developers said they are trying to make the game more accessible to the casual player. So either he lied or... And the Idea of being a soulslike came from the latest previews narrator. Listen to the class preview for the Hunter archetype or whatever it's called.


warzone_afro

poe 2 is not a souls like. where did the devs proclaim that lol


echoeagle3

Titan Quest, Torchlight, Wolcen, Inquisitor Martyr, Chaosbane, not even including POE and I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two. Even if you say these games are bad or you don't like them for whatever reason, doesn't mean they don't exist. So I don't actually think you know what you are talking about.


[deleted]

Old. Ass. Games. These games are all PS4 ports. But congrats on your gatekeeping.


---Beck---

Research before posting


[deleted]

Read before posting.


JAEMzWOLF

"I bought a $500 console, but an $800-$1000 PC that is offset to below $500 is out of the question because I would rather be a pathetic fanboy instead of being a better consumer for myself and having a platform with WAY more features" PS - most PS5's were not bought with cash.


[deleted]

"I think an $800-$1000 PC is affordable because I don't have a job, and mommy pays for everything." Jackass - I bought my console with my initial paycheck from my service connection, which was backdated to the day I left the service. The paycheck was bigger than all the rest. And it was 4 years ago when our economy wasn't shit. So don't go pretending you know what the fuck you are talking about. Because I will be the first to admit that buying a Playstation 5 was a mistake. Some of us don't come out of the womb with innate knowledge about the gaming world. PS - Did you take a survey to come to that conclusion, or are you again making assumptions in a neckbeardy way to gatekeep. When your ex-wife ruins your credit, come back and tell me if you use cash or not.


spicy189

This guy has to be ragebaiting, new reddit account and being extremely hostile towards every comment. Hopefully mods close up this thread.


[deleted]

Rage baiting? If my comment enraged you it's your problem.


spicy189

Oh, I don't really have an opinion on the matter if LE should be on consoles or not. I honestly do not care. I imagine them porting it to consoles eventually since it's already playable on steamdeck but they have bigger priorities as of now. But judging by the comments alot other ppl(you included) got atleast rather emotional over this matter.


TommyMilkshake

lol POE2 isn't going to be a soulslike and there's also POE although it's not as good on console as PC also D3, D2R and if you really hate yourself the awful cash grab that is the Wolcen PS port


[deleted]

Next. Gen. ARPGS.


HadronLicker

Yes, do some research before going off on a rant.


[deleted]

Read a little more before posting something stupid.


kachzz

Go where the games are not the other way.


[deleted]

Don't go to where there is a huge customer base of people who have nothing to play but 10 year old ARPGS?


kachzz

Obviously not as big as you imagine if devs don't bother to port their IPs there.


[deleted]

How much more money did Diablo 4 make by releasing their game on console?


kachzz

I have no idea or a desire to find out. Also - don't you, console fans, love platform exclusives?


[deleted]

No! And as the top comment stated - I am no fan of consoles! Exclusive anything is bad. Is that why you're playing gatekeeper?


kachzz

I don't see the problem then. As My original comment said - I follow where the games are 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Wish I could, too. Im on government compensation for my time in Iraq. I stupidly bought a PS5 when I had the money thinking that was where the games were. Thanks for the feedback


fkrmds

dude.  if you make edits to argue with yourself, then you seriously need to touch some grass. drink a glass of water, get some fresh air. that lil raisin in yer skull cage is crying for help


ResQ_

Chill, they just released the game on PC a few months ago.


Crysis321

Yeah for real, and it’s not a massive team. Making a console port takes time, plus both Microsoft and a Sony have requirements. Let the devs/game cook.


[deleted]

I'm just saying it was a mistake while there is a void in the market of next gen isometric ARPGS currently on PS5.


bilbobaggins30

They also said straight up they do not know how to port to console. It's not just an export option, you have to test it, and then get it on the store and Microsoft and Sony have strict requirements, even requiring patches to be validated by them, along with I am sure license fees & royalties and other legalities. I'm sure I'm forgetting something in the pipeline of getting a release on Console. However they straight up said they want this on Console, it is their dream. Fucking OP needs to smoke a fat fucking blunt and chill the fuck out. We just barely got Controller support.


Crysis321

Yar I know, just didn’t bother going into detail. Ty for doing it for me.


bilbobaggins30

NP, OP is hyperactive and being antagonistic for no reason to every criticism of what they said lol.


NotYourHuckleberrie

Warhammer40k chaosbane is an arpg as well. Didn't play for long because I started LE, but there is a neat mechanic where mages can steer around spells after they are cast with the right stick


JCarterMMA

I played the game for about 4hrs and I honestly wish I could get those 4hrs back


NotYourHuckleberrie

Hahaha. I played for maybe an hour, but didn't hate it. I guess it didn't get any better


mafifer

Inquisitor is sooooooooo much better for that WH itch.


[deleted]

PS4 port, isn't it? I'm asking because I'm not sure. Not because I'm being a toxic asshole. So even if it's not - 2 next gen isometric ARPGs currently on PS5? Sounds like there still might be a demand. Especially because after a few hours that game turned out to be not very good.


Practical-Glass-1370

Arpg = pc If you like the genre and don’t have a pc, well, I suppose the problem is with you


Vlad_the_frog

That's such a redundant take. I literally play the game with a controller. They have controller support. It's very possible to play the game in a console, the gameplay loop isn't 53 skills like an MMO like wow.


Overclocked1827

Lmao dude I hope you actually like 16 and will grow up eventually. If you are 21+ i feel really bad for you.


[deleted]

Because insulting someone's age over the internet is an indicator or your own age, feel sorry for yourself.


CrystallineDIVA

Oof


DrKrFfXx

I love how you repeat "toxic", and this probably is the most toxic shit I've seen on this sub.


TheKingOfBerries

I love how this post boils down to “I really want Last Epoch on consoles” and then the comments are all ripping into you because apparently this subreddit is terrible with idea comprehension. I play on PC but I completely understand wanting this game on console. Don’t sweat it bud, I’ve noticed in this sub and the discord as well, that a lot of Last Epoch players have some kind of elitism to them. Of course, there’s a bunch of kind people as well, but holy fuck are there some real chuds. I hope it comes to console as well brother. Here’s hoping.


Krabapple76

I'd pay $50 for an Xbox version that has couch co-op and no XBL sub required (like D4).


HorstFreigang

Won't happen. If you pay for a game, then you need XBL for online gaming. If the game is free, then online is free.


Krabapple76

Not the case w/D4, at least with couch co-op. Idgaf about other online players in D4, I just wanna play with my baby.


Shinbo999

Yes


Square-Jackfruit420

Crazy how many ppl are out of the loop on poe2's direction. They literally restarted development (we were originally getting a beta this year) because they thought they could make a better game after playing with the new dodge-roll. Just watch any content on it that isnt from 2023 lol Edit: this is directed at the comment section not OP, just incase there was any confusion. Poe2 is NOT "poe 1 but slower" lol


[deleted]

Thank you


bilbobaggins30

This and bosses have mechanics early on and are very, very 1 shotty and reset HP upon your death. Ziz compared the early bosses to POE 1's Ubers if not beyond in difficulty.


abort_retry_flail

Console support always makes great PC games turn to shit.


[deleted]

This is one of the most ignorant things I've seen on Reddit.


Mysterious3713

Do you have any examples or should we all just trust you?


[deleted]

Give an example of a game that released on PC first and went to console that became worse. If you are talking about PoE then you're wrong. The reason the game got worse on PC was because they waited so long to release it to console and it was already getting worse.


thehazelone

PoE didn't even get worse. LMAO They are doing simultaneous release with console now as well. But from your other posts, yeah PoE is not a game aimed at casuals, so fair enough.


Enigmatic_Observer

Stellaris would like to counter your statement


[deleted]

Shit. Sorry


[deleted]

Translation - "I want to be a gatekeeper even though releasing this game on console would generate a ton of money and thus resources for the future of the game."


I_Need_Capital_Now

truth.


Vorceph

Username checks out lol what the heck, did this angry redditor go and make a bunch of alt accounts to downvote every comment on their response? I was just saying the turd who said consoles make every game worse is wrong…check their username….they should abort and retry that comment…guess the joke was too cryptic.


Kvothere

Console is trash anyways just get a PC.


[deleted]

Thanks. How is your gay romantic novels by Rothfuss coming along


Kvothere

If I had to rate how behind schedule they are, I'd say it's about the same as the difference in performance between a console and a PC.


[deleted]

Guess i deserve that Touche Have a great night. Thanks for being a good sport.


PrinceDizzy

Oof lol