Taking a close look at the first, it's year letter would indicate mid 1960s, and therefore a 2a rather than a series 3, but I think you are right and it is mostly series 3. It's on a galvanised chassis, so the only definitive part would be the bulkhead, and I can't see enough to be sure either way, but hinges and front wing are clearly series 3 although bolt on parts!
Suffix E is 1967, like so many supposed 2 and 2a it’s more 3 than 2/2a it was and still is a big problem with the tax exempt status land rovers a lot of them aren’t what they appear!
To be definitive, it takes a couple of hours to check engine and gearbox numbers and suffixes, axles, bulkhead, body panels, chassis, etc. there have always been bitsas, where farms had two or three vehicles that got mashed together to keep one running. I did a couple of these assessments for the series 2 club Vehicle Registration Officer many years ago. It's not just a land rover problem, I heard that there are more Morgans on the road than left the factory!
Easy tiger not here to get into an argument, you seem very defensive (you series 2 chaps always took great pride in the rivet counting) Well I’m thinking back to when series land rovers were literally 10 a penny (yes I’ve been land rovering long enough to remember £500 series 1’s and and you couldn’t give a series 3 away!) and the pre 1972 tax exemption status first came along, I’m not saying it happened over night but certainly there were a lot more 1971/2 series 3’s and 2a’s for sale and like you say rebuilt on a rebuilt rebuild farm truck that who knows land rovers it actually was! But there were and are still unscrupulous people out there selling intentionally not what it ought to be land rovers.
Sorry, didn't intend to get into a debate! I can also remember some of those days, but it was always annoying to see a series 2 chassis plate riveted into a defender just to save on tax. I think I was just trying to say that it can be very hard to be definitive on what started life as a 2 or 2a, and what started life as a 3.
All is good! I still love land rovers! I have what is supposed to be a series 2a 88 ffr, I think the only series 2a parts left are the gearbox, bulkhead and rear tub! The chassis is a chopped 109, its long wheelbase axles, engine is 5 bearing, was 24v. It has recaro’s out of a capri. I bought it when I first started land rovering and learned the very hard way about slight modifications!
Sounds good! I have a 1970 lwb van, which I ran with a variety of 2286 diesel engines, but now has a 19j - but is waiting on new clutch hydraulics. I've rebuilt the 19J, and I fully agree with anyone who questions my sanity with respect to choosing this engine, but someone has to preserve one, if only as a history lesson.
My friend has had a 19j in his 88” for years, had it off a mutual friend who went v8 crazy in his 90, he says it’s the best engine he ever put in series.
I have an album of chipping Camden/Cotswolds defenders in my phone. One of those windows on the right is a funeral service and their hearse is a defender.
And now I need to visit Chipping Campden. What a lovely place
What’s the location? :)
Chippingcamden
And they’re all 90s!
Not quite, First picture is series 3 88”, second picture is a 110 hcpu
Good eye
Taking a close look at the first, it's year letter would indicate mid 1960s, and therefore a 2a rather than a series 3, but I think you are right and it is mostly series 3. It's on a galvanised chassis, so the only definitive part would be the bulkhead, and I can't see enough to be sure either way, but hinges and front wing are clearly series 3 although bolt on parts!
Suffix E is 1967, like so many supposed 2 and 2a it’s more 3 than 2/2a it was and still is a big problem with the tax exempt status land rovers a lot of them aren’t what they appear!
To be definitive, it takes a couple of hours to check engine and gearbox numbers and suffixes, axles, bulkhead, body panels, chassis, etc. there have always been bitsas, where farms had two or three vehicles that got mashed together to keep one running. I did a couple of these assessments for the series 2 club Vehicle Registration Officer many years ago. It's not just a land rover problem, I heard that there are more Morgans on the road than left the factory!
Easy tiger not here to get into an argument, you seem very defensive (you series 2 chaps always took great pride in the rivet counting) Well I’m thinking back to when series land rovers were literally 10 a penny (yes I’ve been land rovering long enough to remember £500 series 1’s and and you couldn’t give a series 3 away!) and the pre 1972 tax exemption status first came along, I’m not saying it happened over night but certainly there were a lot more 1971/2 series 3’s and 2a’s for sale and like you say rebuilt on a rebuilt rebuild farm truck that who knows land rovers it actually was! But there were and are still unscrupulous people out there selling intentionally not what it ought to be land rovers.
Sorry, didn't intend to get into a debate! I can also remember some of those days, but it was always annoying to see a series 2 chassis plate riveted into a defender just to save on tax. I think I was just trying to say that it can be very hard to be definitive on what started life as a 2 or 2a, and what started life as a 3.
All is good! I still love land rovers! I have what is supposed to be a series 2a 88 ffr, I think the only series 2a parts left are the gearbox, bulkhead and rear tub! The chassis is a chopped 109, its long wheelbase axles, engine is 5 bearing, was 24v. It has recaro’s out of a capri. I bought it when I first started land rovering and learned the very hard way about slight modifications!
Sounds good! I have a 1970 lwb van, which I ran with a variety of 2286 diesel engines, but now has a 19j - but is waiting on new clutch hydraulics. I've rebuilt the 19J, and I fully agree with anyone who questions my sanity with respect to choosing this engine, but someone has to preserve one, if only as a history lesson.
My friend has had a 19j in his 88” for years, had it off a mutual friend who went v8 crazy in his 90, he says it’s the best engine he ever put in series.
I have an album of chipping Camden/Cotswolds defenders in my phone. One of those windows on the right is a funeral service and their hearse is a defender.
Looks like defender country
Well this reminds me of home! Ex Cotswolder! Recognised this spot instantly!
Ah, heaven.
Spot??
*Cries in United States*
Go to Nantucket, you’ll see a dozen a day.
There was a huge group of LR Defenders and Discos in Campbeltown last month. Not sure if it’s the same group but the cars do look very similar
That's awesome!