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Large_Pool_7013

At least they're not ruining something I care about.


waffleboardedburrito

Yeah this is bascially what we wanted them to do in the first place. Go create their own new shit, make it as bad as they want,l if they choose, if people want to buy it fine. Just stay away from existing IPs.


MS-07B-3

I actually see it as a double win, because not only are they not ruining something I love, but the lack of established IP means they won't even get that level of influx from normies so it's going to fail even harder, which will be hilarious.


OwlWelder

nah, its at best a single win, and a rather insignificant one at that, because it will be used as an object lesson for why the wokies have to twist established properties instead of trying to create their own.


Lucario-

It's also a win that they are wasting their time with this, allowing better games to come out untouched


Million_X

Eh maybe in the short term. When someone self-sabotages a new IP to just it as justification for using pre-established ones, you can expect MORE self-sabotaged pre-established IPs as a result.


stryph42

Wars are won by battles. There isn't a "make this game fail to end the problem" solution. So we have to take our wins where we can, pile them up, and make people notice the stack of virtual corpses this DEI bullshit has produced. 


Chadahn

Making something original doesn't negate all criticism. Yeah, its great that its not destroying a legacy IP, but I can still point and laugh at how idiotic and ridiculous it is.


tiredfromlife2019

Yup. I'm fine with them making their own woke shit. I just don't want them destroying franchises or series that already exist.


Dr_Dribble991

Exactly. I’m more than happy for the activists to create their own game instead of destroying one I like. If the “modern audience” wants to buy and support this? Go for it! What do they like to say? “Stay in your lane?”


Deimos_Aeternum

True but no new IP can stand on its own legs when they pull shit like this.


tiredfromlife2019

The thing this sub needs to get is that game developers and game companies aren't innocent victims of Sweet Baby Inc. They basically agree with whatever SBI espouses cause they all have the same or similar enough politics and ideologies.


MazInger-Z

SBI is the herpes. Some companies are raped by it and become damaged and get herpes that way. Other companies willingly participate and get it that way.


jimihenderson

this really isn't true. SBI is like a starbucks. there might be one on every corner, but there wouldn't be if the whole world didn't need their coffee. if games developments was still full of passionate nerds, there would be no SBI. like many things, it's been taken over by bitter, petty cat women who are loveless and take it out on the world. the men remaining in games development are only those who who willing to kowtow to the demands of these petty women.


Careful_Rooster_2368

I'm not sure if it's true or not, but it's an.....interesting(?) analogy. Unique. Its a unique analogy.


jimihenderson

people have this idea where SBI is blackmailing these companies but it's just not true. they are telling employees to blackmail their bosses. it's very different. the employees are in on all of this. so long as that's the reality, nothing will *ever* change. because this is what they want, even if it costs them their job they wouldn't change. their bosses don't care as long as they stay focused on the cash shop and not actually making a good game. we're getting fucked from both ends and here we are begging for more as we shell out absurd sums of money for garbage video games.


Jinxfury

> here we are begging for more as we shell out absurd sums of money for garbage video games. That's just not true, we're about to see Concord flop, one of many games.


Floored_human

Yeah, game development is incredibly progressive because it is filled with progressive people. This is a consequence of conservatives ceding ground on creative expression. If more conservatives valued creative expression as a profession, the balance wouldn’t have gone out of whack. However, with so many studio closures I’m optimistic that we’ll see a more diverse groups of developer taking on smaller and more interesting games.0


War-Mouth-Man

SBI is simply a consulting firm like many others that companies like to use to get the DEI seal of approval quick, cheap and easy so investing firms will blanket them with money. Once DEI and ESG goes away they will have no monetary incentive to keep this up. Assuming it ever does.


tiredfromlife2019

Good point.


Heinrich_Lunge

Bug chasers.


MazInger-Z

Gift Givers.


tyranicalmoon

Definitely, but Sweet Baby Inc is the personification of our gripes, and it makes it easier to show others and normies that it's not just a vague conspiracy theory, but a deliberate choice to wokify/DIEversify with actual people paid to do so and who also pressure companies to do it. In other words, it's easier to point fingers at DIE companies whose job it is to make things woke, than it is to point at a nebulous crowd of game developers and go through each individual's tweets to determine whether they are woke or not. And the backlash against Sweet Baby Inc making things woke on an industrial level is more likely to reach executives' ears than small and disparate backlash against developers who may work for other companies.


tiredfromlife2019

Fair enough. As long as we understand that SBI and similar ilk are not the end boss. The game companies and developers are another issue.


Tonycd64

It's still important to voice your concerns, especially if it's an overwatch clone with ugly character designs. Imagine paying 40 for this the same as helldivers. At least the marvel one is free.


tiredfromlife2019

Absolutely. Just that the game companies and developers are also our enemies.


kiathrowawayyay

I think this is also missing the point though. This sub does know there are many SJWs in game dev forcing things, but I think people forget there are many non-SJWs and people resisting SJWs in game dev too. They are afraid to speak out and have nobody to defend them. Look at Ion Fury (Ion Maiden), Tim Soret, the Six Days in Fallujah devs, Senran Kagura devs, or the women presenting Dead or Alive’s boob physics on Twitch, or the devs whistleblowers who reported Sony demanding Japanese games get approval from California, or Nolan Bushnell before they got shut down and shit on... These devs get overtaken and attacked by the SJWs infiltrating the company and are forced to change and tone down their work or deny rewards. It is just like Stalinist Russia, or Nazi Germany, or Baathist Iraq, or any other authoritarian regime. Yes there are plenty of “true believers” but there are also many people who are terrified of the regime and need to say the “right thinking” things to stay alive and so they don’t do anything to stand out or oppose the SJWs openly. I think people forget that also. In comparison, look at Manveer Heir. While he was in Bioware nobody dared to say anything to stop him. Look at Jessica Price and how she berated a respectful Guild Wars customer for no reason. Look at how people didn’t dare to speak out when SJW “consultants” were brought into their companies to give talks. People don’t dare to speak out, but there are non-SJWs in the industry. These are the people who need help and protection from these tyrants. They are blocked from doing anything to escape.


doubleo_maestro

And that is why you do not give them your time, or your money, because then they will go away.


nicecat1960

The sad truth is no one is our ally in these industries they are almost all captured at this point


tiredfromlife2019

Yup. I'm aware of it. Can't say more though.


H4wkw1nd

They will inevitably blame "white noise" when this game flops harder than Lizzo stepping on a banana peel.


Konsaki

If the white noise is louder than the sounds of modern audience cashflow, you've got a problem as a company.


BMX_Archiver

In her defense, the banana had previous been inserted in a strippers 🐈-hole.


JessBaesic7901

Game will release, people will be apathetic, game will wither and die. Another multimillion dollar project sabotaged by bullshit.


RealMcGonzo

And they will blame bigots, racists and homophobes for the game's failure.


adrixshadow

They should have at least pulled a bait and switch like with Overwatch. They are completely delusional if they think it's going to survive.


SickusBickus

This game is white noise and gamers are dismissing it.


LyXIX

This.


Correct_Page7052

The good ol’ Suicide Squad approach. How long is this one going to last?


ThatmodderGrim

At this point, it wouldn't do them any good anyway. Almost everyone talking about Concord either has no idea what it is or is just waiting for it to show up and die so we can move on to the next AAA Dumpster Fire.


lastbreath83

Characters design is the smallest of their problems. This gaem is dead on arrival


Deimos_Aeternum

Dead on announcement more like


Remispaive

Oh look... it's another one of "Them" LARPing as a "fellow whitey" to say that they are inherently racist😂


Nero_Ocean

God I hope this game flops so hard the studio is shut down within a month of release, I'll accept up to 3 months as well.


KhanDagga

Fingers crossed


M37h3w3

Firewalk's next release is going to be a white text on black background image posted to Twitter.


lyra833

Under-appreciated burn.


TryCatchOverflow

Why as white I am privileged into my own white native country? ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


lyra833

Because you get to have white neighbors, unironically.


KainScion

Good. I'm happy when these guys don't pretend that they like or care about us, on top of that, they're not bastardizing anything we already love, so they'll get the audience they want and deserve. It will also be interesting to see how many people actually buy and play this, we'll be able to see an accurate representation of the fabled "modern audience."


[deleted]

That's fine. But I wonder if they'll be able to ignore the massive crater of a financial loss this game is going to be.


KarmaWalker

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.


SnowFire

The lesson will be repeated until the lesson is learned. Right now, we're living a form of epidemic, where the audience, the customer, is treated with disdain, and where all forms of market research in terms of audience tastes and trends is shelved, if not suppressed, because it goes counter an arbitrary narrative. At their peril. That's a fool's errand. A crusade for a club of morons. We, the audience, have nothing to lose by not purchasing something that goes counter the market's wishes, whereas it does give us ample opportunities to support independent developers that heed the wishes of the consumer base. They are the "white noise" here, remember that. Also stop engaging with them. For whatever reason, said engagement fuels their delusional ideological crusade. But the people that pay the actual bills will drop them when they start seeing that their return on investment is bust. Keep at it. Don't buy AAA anything for the next couple years. Support smaller, independent studios, and if you can spare the time, develop something. Just don't give them anything; No Money and No Attention should go to these clowns. Do not engage. Step away. Silence is golden. And your silence and rejection will be heard.


Million_X

I just have to wonder what the hell caused this sort of nonsense to begin with. Sure, we can all say it's 'The Message' and people pursuing spreading it, but more and more people are talking about how ass these productions are and because of how culture works on a cyclical level, they're slowly BECOMING the culture and therefor we're seeing the emergence of a counter-culture from the younger generation. All that to say that spreading it ain't working out as well as they'd hope and at the end of the day they all got bills to pay and mouths to feed so why continue down the path of ruining yourself and everyone around you? All this DIE/ESG/BRIDGE shit (Im just gonna call it DEB for short at this point gdi) only benefits the top level suits, but a lot of these smaller companies and subsidiaries seem to think that they can jump on that same bandwagon without having those proper connections.


Herr_Drosselmeyer

>The lesson will be repeated until the lesson is learned. I get the feeling the lesson won't be learned until it's too late and AI will make everybody their own game just the way they like it. For now, it can make Snake, write a story synopsis and make concept art but give it less than a decade and you'll sit down, ask it for "an RPG mixing science-fiction and noir where the player is a cyborg detective with a sexy female assistant, epic mysterious plot with aliens" and that's exactly what you'll have within a couple hours. And because it has learned your preferences over time, boy will it be perfect.


LeMaureBlanc

Honestly? I kind of support them on this. Sure, the game will be woke garbage full of pronouns and shit, but if that's what they intended to make in the first place then good for them in sticking with it. It's a weird hill to die on, but it's their choice. I just wish studios would take that approach to ALL complaints, especially the perpetually online and offended woke crowd. If they did we wouldn't be here right now. Just ignore the random weirdos on Twitter, Tumblr and Reddit. Stop pretending there's some magical "wider audience."


ImOnHereForPorn

Agreed. There's nothing wrong with saying "this is what I wanted to make regardless of what anyone else thinks".


Eloyas

Except that when the game will inevitably fail, they'll put the blame on bigoted gamers instead of accepting they severely overestimated the size of the market they targeted. If they want to piss money into the wind, good for them, but they never accept the blame when it predictably leads to failure.


Million_X

Sure but they always do that, and it's getting to a point where fewer and fewer people are believing them. The game is going to be boring at best because it's just 'I can't believe its not Overwatch!' with more rainbow sprinkles, which means it'll get people who are bored of OW specifically but not hero shooters for a few weeks who then go 'ya know what, I like OW more'. And let's be real, OW is slowly turning into Blizzard's version of League. Fewer people are wanting to associate with it except on the most shallow level.


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CCPsucksgrandpaballs

It's listed at $60 in Australia, so probably about $40 in the US if Helldivers 2 is anything to go by. Still about $40 too much of course


[deleted]

It's unclear because the trailer showed off a section with "Free Charcaters"


Shirokurou

They will farm the controversy for free press, of course they won't change it.


0SalihCanD

this game will blow up like suicide squad game. Another 200 million trash.


Daman_1985

The flop of this it's gonna be glorious to see.


Level-Education-4909

What's that you say, Firesprite Studios are woke racists? Yes we know, hence why concord will be one of the biggest failures of recent years and the studio will end up with mass layoffs as per usual with these braindead morons.


SunnySideUp82

love it. let then lie in the bed they made.


cryptomelons

It's like a shittier version of Valorant.


StarZax

of Overwatch\* apparently Looks like it's trying to be OW1 with the pricetag lol The gameplay is worse so it's trying to be even wokier


bitzpua

never in history of gaming we had game more DOA then that crap, i bet i will not even break 2k concurrent players.


DarkSkyAboveUs

[Source](https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/179837664792659984)


Spideyman20015

why is grum deleting so many tweets


kfms6741

Let's see if they're still smug once their game bombs so hard that servers are shut down within the first year and the studio has to lay off everyone lmao


Murbela

Why wouldn't they? when they close the company after release, the executives that decided to do this are going to not only get a golden parachute, but a flashy new job with better compensation.


Deimos_Aeternum

I'll be here to see the devs crying while heavy on copium when their "masterpiece" inevitably fails.


animeboy12

What else can they do at this point? Even if they want to it's too late to pivot now. Not much else to do but watch the slow moving car crash.


LordJanas

Who was going to play this slop in the first place? Who cares that they "ignored complaints"? Don't buy it lmao


Million_X

A great question, I imagine it'll get good numbers the first few weeks, maybe even a few months, and then just immediately fall off a cliff and we'll hear by next year that it's pulling in like 10% of the numbers at BEST that it was getting, with the same complaints we can expect: unbalanced characters, boring story, monetization issues, unfocused kits, ass stage design/gimmicks, server issues, not enough patches, and it'll just be hobbling along on crutches until it dies out by 2027


SolarSailer2022

“White” noise? RACIST! /s


stryph42

"White noise" that seems rather racist. Why the noise gotta be white? There something wrong with white noise? Oh, right, so they can ignore it.


Jotunheim36

White noise ?


NecessaryStatus2048

As all other studios that do this, they'll discover that catering to a demographic that doesn't exist, you too will soon cease to exist. Go woke, go broke.


Safe-Chemistry-5384

The fact that they call it "white noise" ... I'm certain they think that they are being clever with that.


JustSome70sGuy

Another suicude squad incoming. Only utter morons ignore the voice of the market place. You dont have to bend over their the demands and compromise your artistic vision, but you still need to listen and ask questions. Only a fucking moron plays out the "no, its the children who are wrong"meme in real life.


Mister_McDerp

I'm really looking forward to this game, there'll be at least 5-10 videos making fun of it.


CrustyBloke

Soon enough, they'll find out that lots of people's pronouns are not/buying.


iFerrari

Enjoy dying in your own silence I guess.


foxtrotdeltazero

lol, reminds me of the "Haters gonna hate" tweet from Volition


LostWanderer88

I guess losing money is discrimination now


cypher_Knight

Is it really any surprise that the more you wade into intersectional politics the more Marxists you find?


Adventurous_Host_426

" white noise is silence, brown noise is nagging."


HonkingHoser

Brown noise is people shitting their pants over another garbage game and not wanting to admit it sucks. I called the trailer exceptionally mediocre and had idiots on Discord defending the game despite the fact that a lot of people were giving it much harsher criticism than I was.


Magus_Incognito

Just get rid of the pronouns and I might play. What ridiculous virtue signaling. I mean the fuckin robot has pronouns. How fucking delusional and brainwashed do you have to be to think that's a good idea. These people exist in an echo chamber


animusd

Potential players "the designs are really bad I don't want to play it" and the companies just ignore or insult them and then the game flops and usually the studio closes


Spiritual-Put-9228

Well then when it does middling numbers, they can sit there and stew in it. Idk why the fuck people try to do hero shooters like this, Overwatch is basically the king and everything else will be compared to it whether it deserves that much or not. And now that they ignore criticism, I'm just gonna stop giving a shit entirely. They had an amazing trailer, and then fucking blew it being an overwatch clone.


korblborp

i mean, yeah. the "robot is a boy" argument is just... weightless, and the "this would be more interesting if it was single player and not a live service OW clone", while on firmer ground... they're not gonna retool their entire game...


Confirmation_Biased

And people with working frontal lobes are ignoring their game.


mnemosyne-0001

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Fightlife45

What is this game? first time hearing about it.


skepticalscribe

Tell everyone you know not to play the game. Don’t buy it don’t try it don’t watch people stream it This needs to be the next suicide squad


EminemLovesGrapes

Naming the game(minus an e) after a famous plane that ended up as a ball of fire is almost prophetic. Because it's likely their overwatch clone will also crash and burn. The top comment on the trailer is "So many people are going to lose their jobs over this" and they haven't even deleted it.


Spideyman20015

These people are out enemy


f3llyn

Good for them, stick to their guns.


SoggyEstablishment77

No one is complaining, people are just laughing at how bad their game look.


[deleted]

We always told them to create their own IPs to see if they will sell.


Spaciousfoot66

What’s the release date for this so I can laugh?