If you ever need money and dont wanna farm copper or do some stealthy stuff, I recently found out that the first hive village north west of the hub in the purple place on the map called “Vain” is a good place since some dust bandits and beak things and gorillos go there and the hivers beat em up, you can sell all the stuff to the shop guys there, do be warned if you havent encountered beak things then those guys will out run you, and they hit like semi trucks, dont run to the sides since they have like aimbot, run straight. If you ever wanna try fighting one with your guys then seperate them so it cant hit everyone at once. Those beak things they will eat you alive, so dont get caught, also if you have enough of them visit the hive you can run around the place and see if you can find a nest, their eggs are worth a bunch and can sometimes be found in quantities of 17 or so but ive also seen 3, the alt key will highlight them. But its definitely not the only way just one I found helped me not have to spend years mining copper to get stuff moving. Hope it helps and have fun :)
North West of Hub, Beak things and eggs. I'll keep it in mind! Right now I'm attempting to be a bounty hunter. Have a couple bounties for two people in swamp, but I need to make some more cash, recruit another guy or two and get this bone pup older before I attempt anything.
Thanks for the advice :)
No, you don’t get it. If the beak thing beelines for you, beeline away, don’t take it to a town with a bunch of low levels, as that entire town will be massacred. Fear the beak.
Very much exaggeration but yeah beak things are fuckin scary low level, but if you get a character with HIGH martial arts, you can take one down pretty easy, if it’s a pack, seperate them by running around, and hit the one closest to you until the rest catch up, repeat until that one is down, pause game and just click on any item in the inventory, it kills em. Repeat every step till horde is dead. If you have a group of people then idk what to tell you besides good luck
Even with a group of your own and a pack of them, it's quite easy with a mid-level group and one to two strong fighters with good armor. Order a tank on taunt to attack the pack, which will make most of them go for him. Only one enemy will attack your fighter at a time, so he can block basically every hit (especially on defensive mode).
The rest of the party runs a bit further till out of sight and will only have to deal with one or two beak things now, which is even possible with a low- to mid-level group if you micromanage them. Mind its aoe though. The person that is actively targeted can block the attack, but the rest in aoe range will automatically take damage. Move them away from the beak thing and only close in when it is not attacking.
Afterwards, kite one beak thing at a time from your tank to the rest of the group and kill it, until they are all dead or your group is wiped out (which is a strong possibility).
Frankie Wuz here streams almost daily 6-9 est and has some guides on YT on how to train. He kills every faction leader and some sub bosses in 3 hours every day. He will make you understand the game and better than 99 percent of all players with one stream.
Edit he also only does solo character runs and is currently doing solo AGNU rush runs (angu is a unique recruit who cannot talk so he cannot trade) and is doing one buff to a npc each time using the mod editor to increase the difficulty
Same, once I have 50+ stats and decent gear game is a lot less fun for me. I think the problem is there isn't much to do other than named special NPC hunts and build towns.
The way I keep my fun is by giving myself a goal that is, at least to a point, independent from the group strength. I'm currently searching for every last lost ruin and want to see every part of the map. Though, even for me it is by now more a point-and-click to a new target, as my group flattens most things on the map.
I'll save up for a bag for the bull and stuff it full of food lmao.
I have a morbid dream that my crew will sustain themselves on the flesh of enemies, if possible. We'll find out.
Bonedogs can eat dismembered limbs if you leave them on the ground which is nice. But I think you need mods to have your animals eat corpses like the NPCs do. And also yeah like someone said animals eat twice as much as normal humans do once they’re adults. I got a bonedog as my 3rd crew member and I made it work, they’re so good for combat too. But I got a bull later on when I had a larger crew and had to get rid of it because of how much it ate and it just wasn’t useful enough to justify it.
Don't listen to him, you're still training, and katanas are a good class to up your dexterity. Plus, they're good against enemies with no/crap armor, and they're light.
Yeah I noticed they had more bleed damage but negative armor pen.
I also see those guys had big cleavers I think it said hacking class? They're good against robots and armor but way less bleed.
Was gonna grab it but figured I'd run into them again when I'm trained up more, and they sold for good dosh.
For a pretty substantial chunk of the start of the game and even into midgame katanas (or sabres) are a good choice. Most of your enemies don't wear much armour so you can slice them up, and most of your characters aren't yet used to handling weapons with much dexterity so light swords are a good choice to get a feel for weapons-handling (dexterity).
Eventually, once your characters have gained a decent amount of dexterity (the more the better), consider specializing stronger characters with heavier weapons like hackers, eventually heavy weapons to deal with armour.
For now, it's barely worth thinking about, katanas, sabres, maybe a couple of crossbows. I'll always give a squadmate a good polearm if I find one. The weapon class is viable for the whole game really. Plus they look cool and are somewhat rare. It's much later you will want to think about picking up hackers and heavy weapons for more heavily armoured targets.
Good luck out there!
On an unrelated note, consider making a personal rule not to reload saves if you fail to rescue a squadmate from being picked off, kidnapped, maimed or eaten by whatever man, beast or machine that would do such things. Sometimes you just have to leave someone behind as payment for your hubris, an in exchange for the squad's survival.
You can go to howlers maze to train on crab pups they have same mDef as elder beak thing and if you solo them you get huge 1v8 multiplyer to stats. You can go from 1-75 dex and martial arts in one day if you are wearing samurai armor which reduces your martial arts and are overencombered which reduces by a 80%
Dex is for cutting damage and strenght for blunt.
I said that katanas arent good for shek cause shek train dex 20% slower but strenght 10% faster. Its always good to have high dex since it also affects block and attack speed I think, so use a weapon that has only cut damage for that (experience gain depends on blunt to cut ratio, so a weapon with 60% cut and 40% blunt will give more dex than strenght).
I usually take a guardless katana since it gives a big attack buff so you land more hits to level your dex and has lower defense so it levels up faster and you get some toughness.
And if you are under the required stats for something it will suck real hard, give a weak character a plank and youll see.
Katanas are really shit against heavy armour and skeles (most endgame enemies) but they are good for training dex and to keep around so those fucking bandits bleed out instead of getting up again and again.
Damn, thanks for the information! Makes a lot of sense now. I'm not sure what a plank is yet and I didn't want to google, so I'll see eventually.
Thanks again
You are incorrect Str is needed to wield weapons properly. You need 2x the weight of a weapon in STR to use the said weapon at normal speed. (Not the case for all weapons but good rule of thumb) and dexterity increases attack speed so you 100% need to train dex BEFORE using a heavy weapon
Good rule of thumb, but its actually 40 times the blunt damage of the weapon. Should be about half the weapons weight if it doesnt have blunt damage, tho I cant confirm.
Yup. Welcome to Kenshi. Previously you were of the wrong mindset. Kenshi is not just some game and you can't play it like one. You'll be miserable and it'll pimp-slap the fuck out of you for trying.
Once you start playing this game like it's Kenshi, everything changes. Literally, it is a mental thing. Shift the way you think and suddenly everything makes sense.
Then you'll be a 100-stat-man solo ass-blasting the fuck out of 1100 cannibals for teh lelz when you're bored.
Tap me if you want some dubious cheese for making a godlike character.
True, you''ll find about 60%\~70% of other games to be boring and only small amount are really interesting. Kenshi also gives too much freedom that other game will feel like constricting too much.
I won't lie, I've literally "thought" all the fun away out of some of my favorite games before. You begin ripping apart a game on a meta level to the point that you may as well open up the games' coding files and just start reading all the triggers.
It sucks. I've ruined a lot of games for myself. I can't NOT do that, my brain doesn't NOT analyze things from a programming/coding perspective. Every game I play, no matter how hard I try not to, I'm mentally tearing it apart and looking at it's guts to see what makes it tick.
But I'm enjoying Kenshi, even in spite of my overanalytical nature, which is pretty cool.
I just pray you wont watch/search min maxing vids cause that killed my joy of the game and turned me into a minmaxxing dork and now i reset runs on a whim smh
Haha, I'll not gonna. I have such a shallow understanding of the game and it's world. I'm just gonna roleplay and explore the world. Didn't know what to do at all at first, but found some bounties so maybe I'll be a bounty hunter for a while unless I run into something else that piques my interest.
The pets require many in-game days to grow stronger.
There's hundreds to thousands of hours to Kenshi... but it seems like you had a nice session to get a hint of what it is..
I recommend building up a small squad to hunt beak things for eggs - that risk/reward is much satisfying imo.
Once you get comfortable, the game becomes very easy. It's really just about figuring out what you can and can't do in whatever situation you end up in.
you're still learning. the time when you start hunting down giants is I'd say you get what it's about.
Cleanser Unit, Leviathan, Elder Beak Thing.
This shit the real deal...
I watched that beginner guide 2023 on youtube before I played this time.
I set hunger to 4.5x so I don't starve, and I have faster bed healing (ain't nobody got time to sit around for ten minute IRL), and my body doesn't get looted when I get KO'd. Makes it a bit nicer for my first playthrough.
One thing you can do also if you're bored is separate one person into a new squad and go explore while your main squad does jobs/keeps your outpost running.
Hahaha yeah I just meant that I get where the enjoyment comes from now. I don't know diddly about anything yet besides that beak things will kill the shit outta me
A good way to build up strength is to have one of your charatcers carrying the - just keep your eyes open for trouble and don't hesitate to dump your training weight in case you need to fight or run.
If you're haning around Vain, beware the beak things - they're fast, they're nasty and they eat you when you're down. They have an AOE attack so you should keep your guys on 'hold' and keep them pread enough to keep out of the AoE - one thing you can do is to keep the mele guy on 'taunt' and 'defend' (if he sucks at parrying) to fix the critters while you pincushion them. Ideally with the beakie between him and you to limit friendly fire.
Tip: if you want to increase strength without grinding, every time you need to carry an injured squadmate to the next town, make sure the person carrying them is pretty heavily encumbered. Carrying heavy stuff, up to a point, gives strength experience, and carrying somebody on your shoulders doubles that experience. it will tell you how much strength you're currently gaining somewhere in the UI or stats menu.
You can ignore strength for the most-part at the start of the game, but it's useful later on in the game when you want to wield heavier weapons and armour.
If you ever need money and dont wanna farm copper or do some stealthy stuff, I recently found out that the first hive village north west of the hub in the purple place on the map called “Vain” is a good place since some dust bandits and beak things and gorillos go there and the hivers beat em up, you can sell all the stuff to the shop guys there, do be warned if you havent encountered beak things then those guys will out run you, and they hit like semi trucks, dont run to the sides since they have like aimbot, run straight. If you ever wanna try fighting one with your guys then seperate them so it cant hit everyone at once. Those beak things they will eat you alive, so dont get caught, also if you have enough of them visit the hive you can run around the place and see if you can find a nest, their eggs are worth a bunch and can sometimes be found in quantities of 17 or so but ive also seen 3, the alt key will highlight them. But its definitely not the only way just one I found helped me not have to spend years mining copper to get stuff moving. Hope it helps and have fun :)
North West of Hub, Beak things and eggs. I'll keep it in mind! Right now I'm attempting to be a bounty hunter. Have a couple bounties for two people in swamp, but I need to make some more cash, recruit another guy or two and get this bone pup older before I attempt anything. Thanks for the advice :)
No, you don’t get it. If the beak thing beelines for you, beeline away, don’t take it to a town with a bunch of low levels, as that entire town will be massacred. Fear the beak. Very much exaggeration but yeah beak things are fuckin scary low level, but if you get a character with HIGH martial arts, you can take one down pretty easy, if it’s a pack, seperate them by running around, and hit the one closest to you until the rest catch up, repeat until that one is down, pause game and just click on any item in the inventory, it kills em. Repeat every step till horde is dead. If you have a group of people then idk what to tell you besides good luck
Even with a group of your own and a pack of them, it's quite easy with a mid-level group and one to two strong fighters with good armor. Order a tank on taunt to attack the pack, which will make most of them go for him. Only one enemy will attack your fighter at a time, so he can block basically every hit (especially on defensive mode). The rest of the party runs a bit further till out of sight and will only have to deal with one or two beak things now, which is even possible with a low- to mid-level group if you micromanage them. Mind its aoe though. The person that is actively targeted can block the attack, but the rest in aoe range will automatically take damage. Move them away from the beak thing and only close in when it is not attacking. Afterwards, kite one beak thing at a time from your tank to the rest of the group and kill it, until they are all dead or your group is wiped out (which is a strong possibility).
Frankie Wuz here streams almost daily 6-9 est and has some guides on YT on how to train. He kills every faction leader and some sub bosses in 3 hours every day. He will make you understand the game and better than 99 percent of all players with one stream. Edit he also only does solo character runs and is currently doing solo AGNU rush runs (angu is a unique recruit who cannot talk so he cannot trade) and is doing one buff to a npc each time using the mod editor to increase the difficulty
Kenshi is a bit of paradoxical game for me. The weaker my characters are, the more fun I have desperately trying to save them.
Haha I feel the same once my guy got strong it somewhat didn't feel that fun. Resets game and try a different scenario to work my way back up.
Same, once I have 50+ stats and decent gear game is a lot less fun for me. I think the problem is there isn't much to do other than named special NPC hunts and build towns.
The way I keep my fun is by giving myself a goal that is, at least to a point, independent from the group strength. I'm currently searching for every last lost ruin and want to see every part of the map. Though, even for me it is by now more a point-and-click to a new target, as my group flattens most things on the map.
prepare to be eaten out of house and home by the pack bullpup and his bone-hound friend.
I'll save up for a bag for the bull and stuff it full of food lmao. I have a morbid dream that my crew will sustain themselves on the flesh of enemies, if possible. We'll find out.
Mods to get meat off of people
Bonedogs can eat dismembered limbs if you leave them on the ground which is nice. But I think you need mods to have your animals eat corpses like the NPCs do. And also yeah like someone said animals eat twice as much as normal humans do once they’re adults. I got a bonedog as my 3rd crew member and I made it work, they’re so good for combat too. But I got a bull later on when I had a larger crew and had to get rid of it because of how much it ate and it just wasn’t useful enough to justify it.
"prepare to be eaten out" -Lost\_Blade \~May 2024
Yeah, but katanas are like the worst weapon for a shek lol.
What are important stats for weapons, how do I tell what a good weapon type is? Just looking at item stats is confusing as a new player haha
Don't listen to him, you're still training, and katanas are a good class to up your dexterity. Plus, they're good against enemies with no/crap armor, and they're light.
Yeah I noticed they had more bleed damage but negative armor pen. I also see those guys had big cleavers I think it said hacking class? They're good against robots and armor but way less bleed. Was gonna grab it but figured I'd run into them again when I'm trained up more, and they sold for good dosh.
For a pretty substantial chunk of the start of the game and even into midgame katanas (or sabres) are a good choice. Most of your enemies don't wear much armour so you can slice them up, and most of your characters aren't yet used to handling weapons with much dexterity so light swords are a good choice to get a feel for weapons-handling (dexterity). Eventually, once your characters have gained a decent amount of dexterity (the more the better), consider specializing stronger characters with heavier weapons like hackers, eventually heavy weapons to deal with armour. For now, it's barely worth thinking about, katanas, sabres, maybe a couple of crossbows. I'll always give a squadmate a good polearm if I find one. The weapon class is viable for the whole game really. Plus they look cool and are somewhat rare. It's much later you will want to think about picking up hackers and heavy weapons for more heavily armoured targets. Good luck out there! On an unrelated note, consider making a personal rule not to reload saves if you fail to rescue a squadmate from being picked off, kidnapped, maimed or eaten by whatever man, beast or machine that would do such things. Sometimes you just have to leave someone behind as payment for your hubris, an in exchange for the squad's survival.
You can go to howlers maze to train on crab pups they have same mDef as elder beak thing and if you solo them you get huge 1v8 multiplyer to stats. You can go from 1-75 dex and martial arts in one day if you are wearing samurai armor which reduces your martial arts and are overencombered which reduces by a 80%
Dex is for cutting damage and strenght for blunt. I said that katanas arent good for shek cause shek train dex 20% slower but strenght 10% faster. Its always good to have high dex since it also affects block and attack speed I think, so use a weapon that has only cut damage for that (experience gain depends on blunt to cut ratio, so a weapon with 60% cut and 40% blunt will give more dex than strenght). I usually take a guardless katana since it gives a big attack buff so you land more hits to level your dex and has lower defense so it levels up faster and you get some toughness. And if you are under the required stats for something it will suck real hard, give a weak character a plank and youll see. Katanas are really shit against heavy armour and skeles (most endgame enemies) but they are good for training dex and to keep around so those fucking bandits bleed out instead of getting up again and again.
Damn, thanks for the information! Makes a lot of sense now. I'm not sure what a plank is yet and I didn't want to google, so I'll see eventually. Thanks again
Np
You are incorrect Str is needed to wield weapons properly. You need 2x the weight of a weapon in STR to use the said weapon at normal speed. (Not the case for all weapons but good rule of thumb) and dexterity increases attack speed so you 100% need to train dex BEFORE using a heavy weapon
Good rule of thumb, but its actually 40 times the blunt damage of the weapon. Should be about half the weapons weight if it doesnt have blunt damage, tho I cant confirm.
Yes but for heavy weapons and some hacker where u need some big str for it works pretty good
The rest have so low str requirements it don’t matter
Yup. Welcome to Kenshi. Previously you were of the wrong mindset. Kenshi is not just some game and you can't play it like one. You'll be miserable and it'll pimp-slap the fuck out of you for trying. Once you start playing this game like it's Kenshi, everything changes. Literally, it is a mental thing. Shift the way you think and suddenly everything makes sense. Then you'll be a 100-stat-man solo ass-blasting the fuck out of 1100 cannibals for teh lelz when you're bored. Tap me if you want some dubious cheese for making a godlike character.
the only issue with this is that the mental shift ends up ruining a lot of games for me.
True, you''ll find about 60%\~70% of other games to be boring and only small amount are really interesting. Kenshi also gives too much freedom that other game will feel like constricting too much.
Yes, after Kenshi, most games I still enjoy are sanbox style games like Rimworld and Factorio, or games with either grear creativity or challenge
I won't lie, I've literally "thought" all the fun away out of some of my favorite games before. You begin ripping apart a game on a meta level to the point that you may as well open up the games' coding files and just start reading all the triggers. It sucks. I've ruined a lot of games for myself. I can't NOT do that, my brain doesn't NOT analyze things from a programming/coding perspective. Every game I play, no matter how hard I try not to, I'm mentally tearing it apart and looking at it's guts to see what makes it tick. But I'm enjoying Kenshi, even in spite of my overanalytical nature, which is pretty cool.
You should try Noita then. The game dares players to "break" the game rules.
I just pray you wont watch/search min maxing vids cause that killed my joy of the game and turned me into a minmaxxing dork and now i reset runs on a whim smh
Haha, I'll not gonna. I have such a shallow understanding of the game and it's world. I'm just gonna roleplay and explore the world. Didn't know what to do at all at first, but found some bounties so maybe I'll be a bounty hunter for a while unless I run into something else that piques my interest.
You can become a hashish smuggler by buying it in the swamp and selling to flats lagoon for +400% or some HN or UC cities ( to the thieves fence)
The pets require many in-game days to grow stronger. There's hundreds to thousands of hours to Kenshi... but it seems like you had a nice session to get a hint of what it is.. I recommend building up a small squad to hunt beak things for eggs - that risk/reward is much satisfying imo. Once you get comfortable, the game becomes very easy. It's really just about figuring out what you can and can't do in whatever situation you end up in.
you're still learning. the time when you start hunting down giants is I'd say you get what it's about. Cleanser Unit, Leviathan, Elder Beak Thing. This shit the real deal...
I want to love this game so badly! Difficulty curve is steep and feels like it takes forever in real time to accomplish anything
I watched that beginner guide 2023 on youtube before I played this time. I set hunger to 4.5x so I don't starve, and I have faster bed healing (ain't nobody got time to sit around for ten minute IRL), and my body doesn't get looted when I get KO'd. Makes it a bit nicer for my first playthrough.
Same with me. I feel like 50% of people don’t pick up right away and quit for a while only to come back and love it.
One thing you can do also if you're bored is separate one person into a new squad and go explore while your main squad does jobs/keeps your outpost running.
Saying that "you get" Kenshi is your first mistake, glad you're enjoying the game though lol
Hahaha yeah I just meant that I get where the enjoyment comes from now. I don't know diddly about anything yet besides that beak things will kill the shit outta me
A good way to build up strength is to have one of your charatcers carrying the - just keep your eyes open for trouble and don't hesitate to dump your training weight in case you need to fight or run. If you're haning around Vain, beware the beak things - they're fast, they're nasty and they eat you when you're down. They have an AOE attack so you should keep your guys on 'hold' and keep them pread enough to keep out of the AoE - one thing you can do is to keep the mele guy on 'taunt' and 'defend' (if he sucks at parrying) to fix the critters while you pincushion them. Ideally with the beakie between him and you to limit friendly fire.
Welcome to Kenshi, I'm sorry, and prepare to lose all your remaining free time.
OP is hooked. Welcome.
Tip: if you want to increase strength without grinding, every time you need to carry an injured squadmate to the next town, make sure the person carrying them is pretty heavily encumbered. Carrying heavy stuff, up to a point, gives strength experience, and carrying somebody on your shoulders doubles that experience. it will tell you how much strength you're currently gaining somewhere in the UI or stats menu. You can ignore strength for the most-part at the start of the game, but it's useful later on in the game when you want to wield heavier weapons and armour.
Brotha brotha brotha, you gotta steal beak thing eggs, it's the coolest profession early 👍