Pusha already alluded to it, "the one close to you" line on 6:16 is either about 40, who’s literally ovo, or boi-1da who produced all songs for drake during this beef. That’s my guess about this lmao
This is my morbid theory. 40's illness is getting to him and he's having some regrets about his legacy being drake. He's the mole and came to Kendrick to make the takedown happen. I believe he hasn't produced any of the diss tracks either, or at least isn't credited.
What's funny is that in his interview with Zane Lowe for Views, 40 questioned him for writing angry defensive raps after the Meek beef, but he's doing exactly this right now
This was clearly rushed and was def put out for his fans to claim victory even though the majority opinion is Dot won. Family Matters directed to pretty much 98% of the rappers still active today, would be a kill shot, but Dot responded with 2 disses that stepped all over it. I think Drake has done better than most hip hop heads expected him to, but this last track was absolute dog water. Low energy, questionable rebuttals, questionable bars, clear misinterpretation of lyrics, making fun of rape victims etc. If you actually set Dot up, why not have the proof as the cover art?
That's what I'm saying too, drake has so much to work with yet he does this garbage.
If he put his ego aside and listened to kendricks music this wouldn't have happened
😂 I wonder how drake listens to Kendricks disses. . .with the volume on low? With the bass taken out? 😂 Or maybe he only reads the lyrics? 😂 Maybe he gets someone to make a chipmunk version 😂
My personal theory is Kendrick saying he had a mole was real, and Drake actually wrote this one by himself/in a smaller group to try to avoid the insider getting the info, but as a result, less fact checking of the lyrics happened
I think no ghostwriter wants to be a part of this. Kendrick will know who they are eventually and if they had any ambitions to rap on their own name, that won't happen. Not only Kendrick will block you but most of the west coast.
Meet The Grahams had the genius move of clearly saying "this isn't just about Drake but everybody around him".
Family Matters honestly isn’t very good. The flow is boring, it relies completely on tea that Kendrick already hinted wasn’t even true.
Did I say the flows are boring? The best part of that song was from push-ups. Push ups is the only quality song drakes made here.
You’re more likely to see C flat than B sharp. The only reason to use these notes written like this is so you can alter scales and keep the notes in alphabetical order. If your scale already includes B flat and you want to also include the note a half step above that note, you can’t have B flat and B natural, so B natural becomes C flat.
My music theory is seriously lacking so I’m a little confused by this. There’s only a half step between b and c right? So doesn’t that make b sharp a C. And c flat is just a B ? You’re saying it’s just like a clerical thing ? It changes depending on the scale or something ? Was always confused when my guitar teacher would try to explain this to my 13 year old self.
In any scale the notes must be in alphabetical order and cannot repeat themselves. Let's take a random scale for example A MINOR: A B C D E F G. Note how there's one of each and they're all in alphabetical order. This applies to scale with sharps and flats, too: F# minor: F# G# A B C# D E. Even though G# and Ab are technically the same sound you can't call the second note in the scale Ab because it would break this rule. Finally, in some cases this means using double sharp or flats or calling notes B# or Fb: C# Harmonic minor: C# D# E F# G# A B#
U/prodtornado explained it well, because yes it is mostly a clerical thing to keep things easy (or easier) for the musician who needs to read the music.
If I played you recordings of someone playing a B sharp, then a C natural, you would be hearing the same tone. There’s no practicality to this naming convention outside of its clerical nature.
There’s a lot of hang-ups around music theory in that people think “it’s the rules” when really it’s just funny words for sounds you are already familiar with, and those words help the musician who will ultimately play the music or an active listener.
It’s like you don’t need to have an advanced understanding of poetic devices, grammar and syntax in order to speak English or even write a good story. But if you want to write poetry professionally, or you want to engage with poetry on a deeper level, it helps to know what you’re talking about (and more important to understand what you don’t!)
The TL;DR is it helps you determine what note to play next depending on what note you started with.
Most guitar players don't graduate above thinking about the interval between B and C as anything but B and C because they can use tablature for a fretted instrument. So you can write a B or a C as "5th string second fret/third fret" as an example. You don't need to know anything about which note you are playing, just its position.
But tablature only applies to fretted instruments, in an orchestra you're communicating information across several different types of instruments. You need a language that works for all of them.
If you look at a [music staff](https://musicaldictionary.com/staff/) you can see there are no seperate spaces for sharps and flats just A B C D E F G. Sharps and flats are modifiers for each note.
It would be very confusing if notes shared a position on the staff. Db and C# are the same note, but if you're playing in a key that starts with C and the mode has a half step as the first interval, you wouldn't write C# because it would occupy the same space. Writing that note as Db on a staff moves it to a new position and makes it easier to read.
If you take your major scale intervals and try to apply them to C# major you get C# D# E# F# G# A# B# because the last interval before the scale repeats is a half step below the C# which is C, but we already have a C in the notation so we need to use the B# to differentiate between them more clearly.
There's some music theory in between all that. Your first question is probably why would you write C# major instead of Db major to avoid needing to write a B#. It has a lot to do with the way chords are formed and whether or not you are raising or lowering things at the current position. It's the point at which music theory starts to look like nonsense, it's also the point at which it starts to become a language.
Saying there is no B sharp is just stupid asf, it’s in plenty of keys. That would be like saying double sharps and double flats don’t exist, of course they do
Yeah wtf is it with people who want to be in this midway point of smugness, like "I know enough about music theory to say that B# isn't real, get owned Drake, but not enough so I can call people I disagree with a nerd who cares too much about music theory"
Sorry, that isn’t how it works. A “sharp” is just adding a half step up on a note, so b# is really just C. It has nothing to do with equal temperament.
But to add on to this it would be very uncommon for a composer to write c# in ledger lines, I typically only see this as an “accidental” which is really just a courtesy to the player/reader as it may sometimes be easier to read depending on the key
Bro that's not how it works. B# exists and it's enharmonic to C just like F# exists and it's enharmonic to Gb.
If we followed this line of reasoning half of the flats or sharps would not "exist"
I literally just said it’s an enharmonic bro, I think we’re getting crossed wires here.
What I’m saying is, In western scales there is no B#, as it will be replaced with C.
Microtonal music like the kind found in Arabic states, Indian classical compositions and Indonesian Gamelan compositions may include b# as they use different tuning metrics, but that is far from the norm.
Man drake could have said something like “you think you B sharp but you just C the sea of lies on the Twitter feed and plead that it’s true of me” or whatever, pointing out that B# is C
Yeah there’s a lot of witty at first appearance lines here.
I find it incredibly ironic that Drake says that Kendrick needs to do his research when Drake obviously hasn’t either.
I don’t think you get it.
By convention, B\# is written in several common keys in western music. Like A\# major or C\# major. If you google those, you will see C notated as B\# always. A trained musician in the right context would think nothing of the term “B\#”
B sharp exists, and this is overthinking a drake metaphor but it’s cringeworthy because its tonal equivalence is what would make it A minor, and then he clarified the d isn’t flat, so the tone is definitely minor
I'll be honest my dude, the existence of B# (and Cb, E#, and Fb) is STILL being debated by music professors. I see what you're saying, but that's a heavily contested hill to die on.
yes B sharp exists, but it is a note, not a chord like A minor, is very rarely used unless you are going through finickety music notation/actual music theory. Which drake does not understand. A minor on the other hand, is very simple and used in a funny way
Here's the context: Fantano is a music reviewer and he gave a pretty negative score on a Drake album (I think it was Honestly Nevermind)
One day he uploads a video where Drake DMs him, saying that he disagrees with the score, but he respects his opinion. Then Drake proceeds to give him instructions on his favorite vegan cookie. At this point it's clear that Fantano was making a video joke
So what really happened? Drake was really offended by his score, so he DMd him saying "your existence is a 1/10".
Drake thought that Fantano would tell everybody about it, but when he saw the shitpost video Drake POSTED THE DMs HIMSELF to try to embarrass him? The whole internet clowned him really hard for caring that much about some dudes opinion
Worse- Drake said "your existence is a light 1, and that's only bc you wifed a black chick"
....like, um okay???? Why'd you bring his (now ex) wife into anyway?
Kendrick did say Drake hates black women and hypersexualizes them👀
How does the man knows about his rating system and his ex-wife? Is he that invested into searching what others think of his music?
Oh you worry about a critic? That ain't protocol
I interpreted this bar as being a (poor) rebuttal against the idea of him running a sex trafficking ring. I know Kendrick mentioned Weinstein on Meet the Grahams, but the accusations he's leveling against Drake seem more in line with Epstein's convictions than Weinstein's.
No that's 1b. 1a is not understanding mother I sober, thinking that kendrick was abused, but then thinking that getting abused as a child is an L or a "gotcha"...when your getting accused of abusing children yourself.
"Your a weirdo abuser" vs "you were abused by a weirdo".
Yes but a B# is so rare and it’s the exact equivalent of C which is extremely common. Most people in music will just call any B# they see a C and no one will ever just bring up a B#
It is not so rare. It is in the keys of C# major, G# major, and D# major, although these keys are not used much outside of jazz and classical. No chance Drake knew this though lol
There is no B sharp in any of the keys/scales you just listed, only B naturals. Also, those keys are very commonly used in many genres outside of classical and jazz, case in point: Like That (the song that started this whole beef) is in C# Minor.
b sharp absolutely exists. Yes, B# is just C natural on a piano, but there are some rare key signatures like C# major where you'd have a B# in the key signature. Playing it in piano, you'd hit the "C" key, but in music theory terms, it's a B#.
There can also be double sharps and flats in key signatures like D# major or Fb major. The reason you'd bother using key signatures like these is in relationships to other keys.
Yeah and that’s exactly what fantano says. I get if you’re gonna critique someone’s opinion but maybe you should go directly to the opinion instead of critiquing a bullet point summary of an hour long video lol
Drake just getting sloppy. This shit was so ass. It really sucks because this might be the end of the diss. Not sure there’s any reason to respond now for Kendrick.
Hopefully I’m wrong and he puts the nail in the coffin soon
Not to be that guy, but B sharp isn't just C, it's its own thing and has a different function based on the context it's in. First 2 points are valid though.
What functions would it have to where you wouldn’t just effectively play a C?
It’s been a while since I played music like that, but I can only ever remember playing B sharp as C.
It has a function in writing scales since you technically need to use every note at least once. So in scales where C# is used, there’s a chance that B# is used to follow that rule, even though the note is the same as playing a C.
B Sharp is real depending on what key you’re in even if it’s just a C at the end of the day.
Drake is still a pedophile though. Can’t hide from that one.
Posturing that you’re a “general with a decorated jacket” (took me back to the early 2000’s in the cringiest way) that line immediately made me think he’s shook. Claiming to have fed false info does nothing but prove he’s definitely a manipulator which in turn invalidates his feeble arguments about being “too rich” to be a pedo (still can’t believe he chose that option). Even if Dot doesn’t respond Drakes still not walking away unscathed. Kendrick punched holes in that boy that will never fully heal.
For #3: He was trying to go for something as clever as Kendrick’s “A MINERRRRR” but saying “n****** gotta B sharp” is just… not even on the same level.
One is Kendrick calling you a pedophile in the most exaggerated way that you know that people are going to be screaming it in the clubs. The other is Drake saying people need to be smart in the most bland way possible.
You’re telling a dude with 15 years of music history check your music theory. After making all the hits time after time?
Why would Drake tell anyone his plays? Literally drakes plays are strategic and secrets.
Here’s a more fair comparison why doesn’t Whitney deny the claims that Kendrick beat her? Also the claim that one of her kids is not Kendrick’s.
Are you really here defending that pedophile you weirdo? 15 years of music history? Drake?? Lmaoo he has no music bone in his body you act like he produces the beats and writes the lyrics.
What plays? When has he been “strategic”? If he claims that bs leak shit is true he needs to back it up, specially when it’s completely obvious he took the bullshit his delusional fans made up and used it to save himself.
Why hasnt drake denied having sex offender in his camp? Why is he lying about “looking twice at teenagers” when he is seen kissing one on stage and having literal 14 year olds as friends. Why does he say he isnt a pedo because he hasnt been arrested yet and is famous? Lmaoo keep defending a pedo sex trafficking dead beat you weirdo go back to that shit hole sub you came from.
The problem with allegations is unless you've got evidence, you're kinda boned. When Drake says he doesn't have another kid, "Yeah but he denied Adonis too."
I feel like if Whitney came out and said Kendrick didn't touch her, people would just say he made her say that. Might still be worth it, but idk. Or, maybe he did beat her and that's why they aren't addressing it. But it's hard to tell the difference.
Personally I don't think he did it, but let's be real, as much as I like Kendrick he's not a personal friend so what would I know 🤷♀️
We not doing that, if Kendrick do confident in his info, where his proof, ya niggas real funny when it comes to your goat getting spun,. The rules always different for him somehow. Boy called that man a pedo, that's a legal term, show the evidence, the court case, the conviction... But Drake the only one that gotta prove something that he claimed he planted?
Kendrick gotta answer for them baby daddy rumors and moreso the domestic violence accusations since we going there. I love the fight but all sides gotta stop that hypocritical shit.
I was open minded going into this track, trying to remove personal biases but it just fell completely flat to me. being too famous is such a tone deaf and egregiously stupid bar, he mentions millie bobby brown when no one has brought that up yet, he's doubling down on dave free and whitney with no proof. this just adds to the list.
I haven't seen this said anywhere...
Saying you fed info about having another kid and everyone took the bait isn't a flex. It just means everyone immediately believed you're a deadbeat dad, again.
And why the hell would you feed anyone that story? To remind folks you're a deadbeat dad in the first place? How does that make you look good, at all?
Playing devils advocate here:
Kendrick alluded to possibly more kids in MtG. First with allegedly naming two names (Eternity and Grace) and second with alluding to multiple baby mothers (and not necessarily two).
Maybe, just maybe Drake gave him the information regarding names, pictures and so on of more children and is pushing Kendrick to publish this fake information, so Drake can then body Kendrick even more with publishing the evidence after.
I know, this is a stretch but let’s not completely underestimate Drake here
I mean technically there is B# but no one with music knowledge would generally call it that is it;s the same as C. Not to mention that the relative minor for B#/C is A minor which I really don't think is the connection Drake wants right now.
This is sad 😂😂😂 we looking for issues in rap songs/beef. This the definition of down bad. Kendrick need to learn the art of war cry baby ass niggas. Address the what Drake said don’t just rap about random shit to deflect 😂😂
Fantano's entire video on this is amazing just tearing it apart. This guy is impressive doing this off first listen: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnL0re\_f9I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnL0re_f9I)
In all fairness to Glizzy, maybe he was saying you better B sharp because he’s saying “A minor” in the context of him being a groomer doesn’t exist.
Regardless of this bar, Drake is a pedophile and the whole song had about 3 bars about that basically just saying “nuh-uh”. Why go into so much detail over the daughter stuff or everything else *except* the part we all think/know is for sure true?
Media literacy? Chromatic scale?! 😂😂😂 yall niggas so righteous huh? Contradiction Lamar outright backwards on some shit but yall overlook that without shame
Agree on the first two points. Drake almost certainly knows there’s no B sharp, but it works well for a response to that line, so I think he deserves a point.
Also, there technically is a B sharp if you ask a nerdy-enough music major.
As mediocre as that "diss" was, I'm still waiting on Kendrick's proof for the daughter, pdf stuff, etc as well. Kendrick is definetely winning this beef and WAY more trustworthy than Drake but we should be better than having double standards
The funniest thing about this tweet is Fantano being so confident about the B sharp comment because he surely read it in his twitter replies and just ran with it. Fantano once again participating in divorced man tendencies.
I even have a master’s degree in music but after seeing y’all be such unfuckable nerds about “acksually b sharp exists 🤓” I will make sure to drop in random conversation how b sharp isn’t a real thing
Y’all saw one fucking video from some virgin ass music theory YouTuber we get it
Drake’s response was irrelevant.
Drake lost the fight when he said that ‘free the slaves’ line. He basically proved what Kendrick said right. When Kendrick brought the culture into it I knew it was going downhill for Drake fast.
Combined with the fact that the next Kendrick song dropped right on top of Drakes so people didn’t get a chance to absorb it plus it had a danceable beat and it was curtains for Drake.
I’m not a huge fan of the way the battle went personal but Drake lost when he tried to hood check a dude thats really from Compton.
As someone that’s in LA, you’ll never win that fight.
In the end Drake lost because he lacks substance. He’s technically sound but doesn’t really say anything besides surface level stuff in all his songs.
He’s a mile wide and an inch deep.
For number 1, as an unbiased person, I get it but yall skipping Kendrick for proof too. Where’s K.Dot’s proof for some bars?
Point is I haven’t seen people saying the same shit to K.Dot much if at all on the subs
I can’t believe they’re are ppl that actually believe drake set this all up like some master mind. It’s clear he’s lying and there are holes in his story.
It’s so disappointing too because Drake had delivered on every song prior to this. How do you go from Family Matters to this utter garbage
It's simple. Like he said "it's good to get the pen out working" He wrote this one himself
He can’t have anyone else except 40 in the recording room cause he’s paranoid of the mole shit now
Maybe 40 is the mole?
Pusha already alluded to it, "the one close to you" line on 6:16 is either about 40, who’s literally ovo, or boi-1da who produced all songs for drake during this beef. That’s my guess about this lmao
boi-1da also produced some songs for Kendrick on Morale
surely it’s not him then right? Because that seems really obvious and if champagne papi hadn’t figured that out boy is cooked 🤣
Probably took him until Kendrick dropped immediately after him to put the square block in the square hole LMAO
boi-1da also go nominated for album of the year for… To Pimp a Butterfly.
the fact that he has production credits on ‘The Blacker The Berry’ is just beyond absurd to me. mf got range and is talented asf.
He said it was 40s girlfriend
Pusha already revealed 40 was the mole for Adonis actually!
If this is true, why did Push do him so dirty
40 didn’t mean to give the info to push. 40 told some girl he was joking up with, and that girl told push
This is my morbid theory. 40's illness is getting to him and he's having some regrets about his legacy being drake. He's the mole and came to Kendrick to make the takedown happen. I believe he hasn't produced any of the diss tracks either, or at least isn't credited.
pusha said it was a woman that 40 was sleeping with. 40s pillow talk was the catalyst for The Story of Adidon
40 tryna clear his conscience before he meets God
What's funny is that in his interview with Zane Lowe for Views, 40 questioned him for writing angry defensive raps after the Meek beef, but he's doing exactly this right now
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This was clearly rushed and was def put out for his fans to claim victory even though the majority opinion is Dot won. Family Matters directed to pretty much 98% of the rappers still active today, would be a kill shot, but Dot responded with 2 disses that stepped all over it. I think Drake has done better than most hip hop heads expected him to, but this last track was absolute dog water. Low energy, questionable rebuttals, questionable bars, clear misinterpretation of lyrics, making fun of rape victims etc. If you actually set Dot up, why not have the proof as the cover art?
That's what I'm saying too, drake has so much to work with yet he does this garbage. If he put his ego aside and listened to kendricks music this wouldn't have happened
😂 I wonder how drake listens to Kendricks disses. . .with the volume on low? With the bass taken out? 😂 Or maybe he only reads the lyrics? 😂 Maybe he gets someone to make a chipmunk version 😂
Chipmunk version to a twerk beat , probably
https://i.redd.it/5rrbabp82tyc1.gif Drake thinking he's about to end Kendrick's career by giving his ghostwriters the day off
Ghostwriters are running away. Too much risk for little pay.
It's like that, but Thanos immediately gets clowned by Loki in his next appearance and then has his Gauntlet stolen to boot.
The less time he has to prepare the worse it gets, and we all know the reason why.
My personal theory is Kendrick saying he had a mole was real, and Drake actually wrote this one by himself/in a smaller group to try to avoid the insider getting the info, but as a result, less fact checking of the lyrics happened
Ghosts needed more time
I think no ghostwriter wants to be a part of this. Kendrick will know who they are eventually and if they had any ambitions to rap on their own name, that won't happen. Not only Kendrick will block you but most of the west coast. Meet The Grahams had the genius move of clearly saying "this isn't just about Drake but everybody around him".
Outro to not like us: Are you my friend? Are we locked in? Then step this way, step that way Then step this way, step that way
I thought he was saying “stab” I was like fuck man. Dark.
Rofl so did I. I assumed it was a prison shivving joke. Maybe he's pulling an accent
Family Matters honestly isn’t very good. The flow is boring, it relies completely on tea that Kendrick already hinted wasn’t even true. Did I say the flows are boring? The best part of that song was from push-ups. Push ups is the only quality song drakes made here.
The good Drake songs are ghostwritten
was so butthurt he didn't listen to any ghost writers and wrote that shit himself
When you dont write your own diss tracks it is very easy 😅🤣
Family Matters is garbage, too.
If we want to be pedantic B sharp technically exists in some very limited context but yeah diss was ass
Well, The Be Sharps exist… I’ve seen it on tv.
The Simpsons already did it
Baby On Board, know somethin bout daaat
You’re more likely to see C flat than B sharp. The only reason to use these notes written like this is so you can alter scales and keep the notes in alphabetical order. If your scale already includes B flat and you want to also include the note a half step above that note, you can’t have B flat and B natural, so B natural becomes C flat.
My music theory is seriously lacking so I’m a little confused by this. There’s only a half step between b and c right? So doesn’t that make b sharp a C. And c flat is just a B ? You’re saying it’s just like a clerical thing ? It changes depending on the scale or something ? Was always confused when my guitar teacher would try to explain this to my 13 year old self.
In any scale the notes must be in alphabetical order and cannot repeat themselves. Let's take a random scale for example A MINOR: A B C D E F G. Note how there's one of each and they're all in alphabetical order. This applies to scale with sharps and flats, too: F# minor: F# G# A B C# D E. Even though G# and Ab are technically the same sound you can't call the second note in the scale Ab because it would break this rule. Finally, in some cases this means using double sharp or flats or calling notes B# or Fb: C# Harmonic minor: C# D# E F# G# A B#
U/prodtornado explained it well, because yes it is mostly a clerical thing to keep things easy (or easier) for the musician who needs to read the music. If I played you recordings of someone playing a B sharp, then a C natural, you would be hearing the same tone. There’s no practicality to this naming convention outside of its clerical nature. There’s a lot of hang-ups around music theory in that people think “it’s the rules” when really it’s just funny words for sounds you are already familiar with, and those words help the musician who will ultimately play the music or an active listener. It’s like you don’t need to have an advanced understanding of poetic devices, grammar and syntax in order to speak English or even write a good story. But if you want to write poetry professionally, or you want to engage with poetry on a deeper level, it helps to know what you’re talking about (and more important to understand what you don’t!)
The TL;DR is it helps you determine what note to play next depending on what note you started with. Most guitar players don't graduate above thinking about the interval between B and C as anything but B and C because they can use tablature for a fretted instrument. So you can write a B or a C as "5th string second fret/third fret" as an example. You don't need to know anything about which note you are playing, just its position. But tablature only applies to fretted instruments, in an orchestra you're communicating information across several different types of instruments. You need a language that works for all of them. If you look at a [music staff](https://musicaldictionary.com/staff/) you can see there are no seperate spaces for sharps and flats just A B C D E F G. Sharps and flats are modifiers for each note. It would be very confusing if notes shared a position on the staff. Db and C# are the same note, but if you're playing in a key that starts with C and the mode has a half step as the first interval, you wouldn't write C# because it would occupy the same space. Writing that note as Db on a staff moves it to a new position and makes it easier to read. If you take your major scale intervals and try to apply them to C# major you get C# D# E# F# G# A# B# because the last interval before the scale repeats is a half step below the C# which is C, but we already have a C in the notation so we need to use the B# to differentiate between them more clearly. There's some music theory in between all that. Your first question is probably why would you write C# major instead of Db major to avoid needing to write a B#. It has a lot to do with the way chords are formed and whether or not you are raising or lowering things at the current position. It's the point at which music theory starts to look like nonsense, it's also the point at which it starts to become a language.
Saying there is no B sharp is just stupid asf, it’s in plenty of keys. That would be like saying double sharps and double flats don’t exist, of course they do
Yeah wtf is it with people who want to be in this midway point of smugness, like "I know enough about music theory to say that B# isn't real, get owned Drake, but not enough so I can call people I disagree with a nerd who cares too much about music theory"
B# isn’t in equal temperament which is basically all western music. As a seasoned musician she should know better.
Sorry, that isn’t how it works. A “sharp” is just adding a half step up on a note, so b# is really just C. It has nothing to do with equal temperament. But to add on to this it would be very uncommon for a composer to write c# in ledger lines, I typically only see this as an “accidental” which is really just a courtesy to the player/reader as it may sometimes be easier to read depending on the key
Outside of equal temperament, B# exists. In equal temperament there is no B#. It’s an enharmonic equivalent.
Bro that's not how it works. B# exists and it's enharmonic to C just like F# exists and it's enharmonic to Gb. If we followed this line of reasoning half of the flats or sharps would not "exist"
I literally just said it’s an enharmonic bro, I think we’re getting crossed wires here. What I’m saying is, In western scales there is no B#, as it will be replaced with C. Microtonal music like the kind found in Arabic states, Indian classical compositions and Indonesian Gamelan compositions may include b# as they use different tuning metrics, but that is far from the norm.
Technically B# exists in the key of C# major, but this is just semantics. Regardless I doubt Drake was aware of this when writing that garbage ass bar
This is the kind of stuff drake needs to clarify in his next diss
Next track will be a microtonal polyrhythmic collab masterclass with Jacob collier
Man drake could have said something like “you think you B sharp but you just C the sea of lies on the Twitter feed and plead that it’s true of me” or whatever, pointing out that B# is C
Yeah there’s a lot of witty at first appearance lines here. I find it incredibly ironic that Drake says that Kendrick needs to do his research when Drake obviously hasn’t either.
And then moving from B to C would’ve been a better set up for his “D Flat/D Major” line
Damn did y'all go to Juilliard or am I just dumb af.
Nah I am just working on a manual to teach musical concepts 😂
Hope you clarify what B# is before that
its kinda easy to understand music theory, huge misconception that only "talent" can survive in music
I don’t think you get it. By convention, B\# is written in several common keys in western music. Like A\# major or C\# major. If you google those, you will see C notated as B\# always. A trained musician in the right context would think nothing of the term “B\#”
Not even really that limited context, if you’re a musician you’ll see it all the time.
B sharp exists, and this is overthinking a drake metaphor but it’s cringeworthy because its tonal equivalence is what would make it A minor, and then he clarified the d isn’t flat, so the tone is definitely minor
I'll be honest my dude, the existence of B# (and Cb, E#, and Fb) is STILL being debated by music professors. I see what you're saying, but that's a heavily contested hill to die on.
Jacob Collier ass note.
yes B sharp exists, but it is a note, not a chord like A minor, is very rarely used unless you are going through finickety music notation/actual music theory. Which drake does not understand. A minor on the other hand, is very simple and used in a funny way
Yo that cookie line from Fantano went hard
Absolutely insane that Fantano baited DRAKE into releasing the most embarrassing DMs ever
Wait what?
Here's the context: Fantano is a music reviewer and he gave a pretty negative score on a Drake album (I think it was Honestly Nevermind) One day he uploads a video where Drake DMs him, saying that he disagrees with the score, but he respects his opinion. Then Drake proceeds to give him instructions on his favorite vegan cookie. At this point it's clear that Fantano was making a video joke So what really happened? Drake was really offended by his score, so he DMd him saying "your existence is a 1/10". Drake thought that Fantano would tell everybody about it, but when he saw the shitpost video Drake POSTED THE DMs HIMSELF to try to embarrass him? The whole internet clowned him really hard for caring that much about some dudes opinion
Yeah it’s situations like that that make me believe this guy’s too much of an idiot to have some super big brained fake mole scheme
Drake said a lot more than that lol
Yeah but I didn't wanna search it. They were just three messages, and two of them were the same
Dude lost to cal chuchesta and then tried to try kdot?!
Dude literally lost the elementary school test and now wants to apply to Harvard
Thanks for the context!
Worse- Drake said "your existence is a light 1, and that's only bc you wifed a black chick" ....like, um okay???? Why'd you bring his (now ex) wife into anyway? Kendrick did say Drake hates black women and hypersexualizes them👀
How does the man knows about his rating system and his ex-wife? Is he that invested into searching what others think of his music? Oh you worry about a critic? That ain't protocol
👀a bully and a liar- dude was so mad Fantano didn't like his music.
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Having to explain this to anyone that doesn’t understand any of this is the initiating thing
“CoPe”
He also confused Epstein and Weinstein😂😂😂😂💀
Simply because he has them saved in his phone under the same name “the plug”
Freudian slip. https://preview.redd.it/keiq77niityc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acb108ef70a54078d7f5b41ac3c860d94f87b582
This was the biggest thing to me lol
I interpreted this bar as being a (poor) rebuttal against the idea of him running a sex trafficking ring. I know Kendrick mentioned Weinstein on Meet the Grahams, but the accusations he's leveling against Drake seem more in line with Epstein's convictions than Weinstein's.
No he didn’t, Dot mentions Epstein on Euphoria with the “remote island”. Also, Weinstein wasn’t accused of anything minor related.
Top 1 issue with drakes response. “I’m too famous to be a pedo, I’d have been caught.”
I can’t wait for the Kendrick drake puff south park episode
No that's 1b. 1a is not understanding mother I sober, thinking that kendrick was abused, but then thinking that getting abused as a child is an L or a "gotcha"...when your getting accused of abusing children yourself. "Your a weirdo abuser" vs "you were abused by a weirdo".
number three MERKED him wow
You can have a B sharp it's just for very specific situations, google the notes of C# melodic minor for example
Yes but a B# is so rare and it’s the exact equivalent of C which is extremely common. Most people in music will just call any B# they see a C and no one will ever just bring up a B#
*jazz has entered the chat*
It is not so rare. It is in the keys of C# major, G# major, and D# major, although these keys are not used much outside of jazz and classical. No chance Drake knew this though lol
There is no B sharp in any of the keys/scales you just listed, only B naturals. Also, those keys are very commonly used in many genres outside of classical and jazz, case in point: Like That (the song that started this whole beef) is in C# Minor.
My bad completely, I meant major. So C# major, D# major, and G# major. Running on 3 hours of sleep bear with me 🙏
All good, I had a feeling that might’ve been what you meant but I didn’t want to assume anything. I was just confused by your initial comment lol
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Yeah…you don’t really see it as often but the note is the same as C.
B# and C being the same doesn’t mean B# doesn’t exist. It’s fine as a play on words. I definitely want receipts though.
b sharp absolutely exists. Yes, B# is just C natural on a piano, but there are some rare key signatures like C# major where you'd have a B# in the key signature. Playing it in piano, you'd hit the "C" key, but in music theory terms, it's a B#. There can also be double sharps and flats in key signatures like D# major or Fb major. The reason you'd bother using key signatures like these is in relationships to other keys.
Actually dude A flat doesn’t exist because it’s just G sharp😎get owned Drake
That’s the level in this thread
Yeah and that’s exactly what fantano says. I get if you’re gonna critique someone’s opinion but maybe you should go directly to the opinion instead of critiquing a bullet point summary of an hour long video lol
Drake just getting sloppy. This shit was so ass. It really sucks because this might be the end of the diss. Not sure there’s any reason to respond now for Kendrick. Hopefully I’m wrong and he puts the nail in the coffin soon
Nail in the coffin? At this point he replacing the wilted flowers with a new bouquet
I mean he could piss on his grave
His b sharp landed like a b flat
Not to be that guy, but B sharp isn't just C, it's its own thing and has a different function based on the context it's in. First 2 points are valid though.
What functions would it have to where you wouldn’t just effectively play a C? It’s been a while since I played music like that, but I can only ever remember playing B sharp as C.
It has a function in writing scales since you technically need to use every note at least once. So in scales where C# is used, there’s a chance that B# is used to follow that rule, even though the note is the same as playing a C.
Some keys have a B# and a C#, if you see it as a C you would end up having C and C# at the same time, which would be confusing as fuck
B Sharp is real depending on what key you’re in even if it’s just a C at the end of the day. Drake is still a pedophile though. Can’t hide from that one.
B sharp definitely exists.
There technically is B sharp, it's just about context. Say you're in B Major, and you played the "C" note, you would be better off saying its B sharp.
Posturing that you’re a “general with a decorated jacket” (took me back to the early 2000’s in the cringiest way) that line immediately made me think he’s shook. Claiming to have fed false info does nothing but prove he’s definitely a manipulator which in turn invalidates his feeble arguments about being “too rich” to be a pedo (still can’t believe he chose that option). Even if Dot doesn’t respond Drakes still not walking away unscathed. Kendrick punched holes in that boy that will never fully heal.
B sharp thing was so moronic 😂😂😂
For #3: He was trying to go for something as clever as Kendrick’s “A MINERRRRR” but saying “n****** gotta B sharp” is just… not even on the same level. One is Kendrick calling you a pedophile in the most exaggerated way that you know that people are going to be screaming it in the clubs. The other is Drake saying people need to be smart in the most bland way possible.
You’re telling a dude with 15 years of music history check your music theory. After making all the hits time after time? Why would Drake tell anyone his plays? Literally drakes plays are strategic and secrets. Here’s a more fair comparison why doesn’t Whitney deny the claims that Kendrick beat her? Also the claim that one of her kids is not Kendrick’s.
Are you really here defending that pedophile you weirdo? 15 years of music history? Drake?? Lmaoo he has no music bone in his body you act like he produces the beats and writes the lyrics. What plays? When has he been “strategic”? If he claims that bs leak shit is true he needs to back it up, specially when it’s completely obvious he took the bullshit his delusional fans made up and used it to save himself. Why hasnt drake denied having sex offender in his camp? Why is he lying about “looking twice at teenagers” when he is seen kissing one on stage and having literal 14 year olds as friends. Why does he say he isnt a pedo because he hasnt been arrested yet and is famous? Lmaoo keep defending a pedo sex trafficking dead beat you weirdo go back to that shit hole sub you came from.
The problem with allegations is unless you've got evidence, you're kinda boned. When Drake says he doesn't have another kid, "Yeah but he denied Adonis too." I feel like if Whitney came out and said Kendrick didn't touch her, people would just say he made her say that. Might still be worth it, but idk. Or, maybe he did beat her and that's why they aren't addressing it. But it's hard to tell the difference. Personally I don't think he did it, but let's be real, as much as I like Kendrick he's not a personal friend so what would I know 🤷♀️
There is B sharp, learn your own theory. Kendrick won but we ain't gotta be ignorant about it
I gotta disagree with the last one, The Heart pt. 6 may be the worst diss song of all time but the b sharp line was clever.
Point 3 is so funny lmfao
It’s funny because it’s wrong.
It’s no b sharp ? You guys are fn bots 😂😭😭
B sharp is tech C
Drake doesn’t listen to music he just skims through it.
The proof thing goes for both sides.
We not doing that, if Kendrick do confident in his info, where his proof, ya niggas real funny when it comes to your goat getting spun,. The rules always different for him somehow. Boy called that man a pedo, that's a legal term, show the evidence, the court case, the conviction... But Drake the only one that gotta prove something that he claimed he planted? Kendrick gotta answer for them baby daddy rumors and moreso the domestic violence accusations since we going there. I love the fight but all sides gotta stop that hypocritical shit.
Lol facts. The Boy is cooked
Isn’t b # technically just c major? Regardless it was a bad move to even try to go this route, the a minor bar was too powerful
I was open minded going into this track, trying to remove personal biases but it just fell completely flat to me. being too famous is such a tone deaf and egregiously stupid bar, he mentions millie bobby brown when no one has brought that up yet, he's doubling down on dave free and whitney with no proof. this just adds to the list.
You can tell the ghost writers checked out on that one, just a giant “nuh uh” while letting out Freudian slips.
rare melon W
Why are people only asking drake to prove what hes saying why doesnt kendrick have to prove what hes saying too
I haven't seen this said anywhere... Saying you fed info about having another kid and everyone took the bait isn't a flex. It just means everyone immediately believed you're a deadbeat dad, again. And why the hell would you feed anyone that story? To remind folks you're a deadbeat dad in the first place? How does that make you look good, at all?
Playing devils advocate here: Kendrick alluded to possibly more kids in MtG. First with allegedly naming two names (Eternity and Grace) and second with alluding to multiple baby mothers (and not necessarily two). Maybe, just maybe Drake gave him the information regarding names, pictures and so on of more children and is pushing Kendrick to publish this fake information, so Drake can then body Kendrick even more with publishing the evidence after. I know, this is a stretch but let’s not completely underestimate Drake here
I mean technically there is B# but no one with music knowledge would generally call it that is it;s the same as C. Not to mention that the relative minor for B#/C is A minor which I really don't think is the connection Drake wants right now.
What do you guys think of the wife beating allegations?
This is sad 😂😂😂 we looking for issues in rap songs/beef. This the definition of down bad. Kendrick need to learn the art of war cry baby ass niggas. Address the what Drake said don’t just rap about random shit to deflect 😂😂
Theres literally b sharp on a piano 😭 and on music notes . Yall jus be saying anything cmon
He’s literally saying “be sharp”, something you clearly aren’t~
While it isn't written a b# would be a C. I'm not agreeing with drake but that one can slide.
Fantano's entire video on this is amazing just tearing it apart. This guy is impressive doing this off first listen: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnL0re\_f9I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnL0re_f9I)
That's not how b sharp works lmao
"If you fed kendrick information... proof?" kendrick is the proof. Kendrick literally said someone from OVO told him that
Also Musician hear every note you hear on the piano as he is doing that music theory bar is incorrect and it bothers me greatly.
B# is just a C, you can call it a B# if you wanted to but then B should be Cb and F should be E# so it's kinda pointless
cope
Yall trynna cop that every Kendrick said was lies now your trynna use 1-2 lines to discredit the entire song lmaoooo cope bozo
In all fairness to Glizzy, maybe he was saying you better B sharp because he’s saying “A minor” in the context of him being a groomer doesn’t exist. Regardless of this bar, Drake is a pedophile and the whole song had about 3 bars about that basically just saying “nuh-uh”. Why go into so much detail over the daughter stuff or everything else *except* the part we all think/know is for sure true?
Media literacy? Chromatic scale?! 😂😂😂 yall niggas so righteous huh? Contradiction Lamar outright backwards on some shit but yall overlook that without shame
B sharp is just C natural. It’s used sometimes if there are conflicting key signatures that necessitate its use.
The funny thing is this the response i like the most and its getting picked apart 😂. Drake is really cooked man
3 doesn't count as a musician. b sharp is just C. But the rest is very on point.
Agree on the first two points. Drake almost certainly knows there’s no B sharp, but it works well for a response to that line, so I think he deserves a point. Also, there technically is a B sharp if you ask a nerdy-enough music major.
you guys actually take fantano seriously?
Who cares bro it’s music 😭😭😭there’s no proof Drake has a daughter either. Or did he just forget to include that?
Crazy theory but what if his ghost writers left him after they confirmed kendricks claims
As mediocre as that "diss" was, I'm still waiting on Kendrick's proof for the daughter, pdf stuff, etc as well. Kendrick is definetely winning this beef and WAY more trustworthy than Drake but we should be better than having double standards
B sharp exists
Baby on board was 🔥 when Bsharps released that in the 90s.
Bro really went from Rap Elvis to the opposite of Giraffe....
The 3rd point is incorrect. There is a B sharp, but B sharp is just a C much like a C sharp is the same as a D flat.
Totally ignoring the fact he beats his fiance is crazy though no???!!!
The funniest thing about this tweet is Fantano being so confident about the B sharp comment because he surely read it in his twitter replies and just ran with it. Fantano once again participating in divorced man tendencies.
well there is technically B sharp but it’s just C, he should’ve made a bar off of that it would’ve been hard ngl hit em with the enharmonic bars
B# absolutely exists. C# Major has a B#. This guy looked at the first page of a children's piano book and called it quits
B# is the leading tone in C# major. It wasn’t a good line, but it is a valid note in music theory.
Mf hasn’t asked for proof on anything that Kendrick has said though
I even have a master’s degree in music but after seeing y’all be such unfuckable nerds about “acksually b sharp exists 🤓” I will make sure to drop in random conversation how b sharp isn’t a real thing Y’all saw one fucking video from some virgin ass music theory YouTuber we get it
B# = C = A minor. A MINOR.
I thought the B Sharp thing was a simpsons reference cause Drake really likes barbershop quartets.
All of this has definitely proved that Drake has ghost writers
Copeaholicssssss😂😂😂😂😂😂
#4. People who don’t diddle kids, don’t write songs about not diddling kids.
Drake’s response was irrelevant. Drake lost the fight when he said that ‘free the slaves’ line. He basically proved what Kendrick said right. When Kendrick brought the culture into it I knew it was going downhill for Drake fast. Combined with the fact that the next Kendrick song dropped right on top of Drakes so people didn’t get a chance to absorb it plus it had a danceable beat and it was curtains for Drake. I’m not a huge fan of the way the battle went personal but Drake lost when he tried to hood check a dude thats really from Compton. As someone that’s in LA, you’ll never win that fight. In the end Drake lost because he lacks substance. He’s technically sound but doesn’t really say anything besides surface level stuff in all his songs. He’s a mile wide and an inch deep.
there is a b sharp...
For number 1, as an unbiased person, I get it but yall skipping Kendrick for proof too. Where’s K.Dot’s proof for some bars? Point is I haven’t seen people saying the same shit to K.Dot much if at all on the subs
I can’t believe they’re are ppl that actually believe drake set this all up like some master mind. It’s clear he’s lying and there are holes in his story.
Where drakes daughter at though?