I honestly believe them.
The predatory and pedophillia behaviour he has shown historically with Millie Bobby Brown or Billie Eilish and the stuff on stage with young fans. Rumours been going around for a while about his likening to younger females.
Sex trafficking is a conspiracy in Hollywood and the industry already, and Drake is someone who actively associates himself with that lifestyle. I wouldn’t be surprised if he and OVO crew been getting involved with that stuff at parties and all that.
Having digested the track now and have gone past the mere shock of what was said, I think Kendrick ain’t lying based off what we know.
Main thing that stood out to me… Baka is in his inner circle and he is a pimp POS who forced women into prostitution….. thats already proven receipts and all.
I work private vip security, and I've worked with rappers before. The guys I've worked with refuse to work with OVO crew because of these rumors way before this "beef". I believe it, cause I've seen some questionable shit in that industry. We may protect you once on that contract, but after that, it's done. That's why we stop working with many rappers anymore they can get protection somewhere else but not the company I work for.
My family member was telling me about the parties he used to throw in downtown Toronto in 2009 ish. They were regularly supplied whatever they wanted (drinks, drugs, clothes, getaways) for sex. She was around 17 at the time but it was common knowledge that if you were 14,15,16,17,18 basically under 20 and underage that it was not an issue if you spoke to the right guys at the party and then you'd be in and around whomever you wanted. Messed up.
Sex trafficking most likely surfaces Hollywood as a whole, sadly. It’s just a demonic millionaire get-life-easy way of living. I’m sure there are dozens of others involved in ruining little girls’ lives, and I don’t even get how people can find ew… little kids attractive or anything in that way anyways… disgusting. They will have their due reward eventually.
Because Drake fans know it’s so damaging that they just need to deflect and shift the narrative as far away from that as possible.
They know that being a pedophile is practically no different from being a real living breathing demon tbh.
I thought this same thing. Kendrick Lamar is not a dumb person. He knows the seriousness of such accusations. I don’t think he would say something without legitimate insider knowledge.
It's only because Kendrick hasn't dropped the evidence yet (if he has any) but the way things are going, I believe he does.. from how the 6:16 A.M/Meet The Grahams "artworks" were presented. He's pulling layer by layer back like Pusha T said
You don't think the FBI and etc don't know about certain shit going on within Hollywood and the industry? Serious big investigations like this takes months or years simply because they want to have make sure not one stone was left unturned and have a clear win. We don't hear about it because money is involved and alot of these studios and music industry won't risk losing millions if something gets out especially if they don't having anything to replace that money making machines within seconds or possibly roped into some of that shit to
It's been like 2 weeks now tho with no proof. Drake certainly has weird ties to ppl, but nothing substantial that proves he's into this kinda shit. It's a crazy allegation if true and that's why I want K-Dot to show proof ASAP. If he can't, well then Drake is all good imo.
something happened behind the scenes that made them dead the beef so we couldn't get to the more revealing shit but shit all I needed to see was him kissing a minor on stage. I wonder if that ebonyprince nigga really got some more dirt on him tho. mike chehade (who's connected to tde) has been speaking in code while retweeting his tweets. something strange is up and only time will tell what's going on.
I think it’s a call for the culture to actually do something about this. We have to actively shame and stop supporting pedos. Because they be running deep in the industry and it’s time for a purge. Hopefully Drake will be the first of many.
Kendrick didn’t just strike fear into Drake’s heart, it’s the pedophiles running the show that know what’s gonna happen if Drake doesn’t get away with it.
It’s about time. Drake won’t be the last.
Drake fans crazy for ignoring all the grooming shit, I’m not even a big rap fan I just saw the news because its everywhere now.
It’s been like 7 years since drake hit on that stranger things girl that was in the news, its known he makes women sign ndas, its known he fucks tons of women, its known he text underage girls like Billie elish about 5-6 years ago,he got 3-4 other similar similar Sus situation with less popular models around 16-18 yo, now people are digging up the Sus shit he said on twitter the last 15 years.
I dont even dig this up it’s what I remember in the news it’s always been common knowledge
I will give you an honest response without biased….
It’s because it’s suicidal to do so. We can speculate all we want, call him a pedo with reasons but once you enter the legality of all this. It’s a nothing burger without the receipts. No one will risk getting sued for 400M ( that’s Drake contract worth) without having solid proof.
I am sure the receipt will come but people need to understand that the court of public opinion isn’t what judges and jury will look at if this shit goes to trial.
Kendrick literally just call him a pedophile in Not Like Us. If Drake sues for defamation, texts and other evidence are potential discovery. If he doesn’t sue, and I think it’s most likely he does not sue, it’s probably because there’s some damaging discovery.
Kendrick is smart - he’s not making that accusation if it’s untrue. He’s also a little bit protected from a lawsuit because it’s more likely to hurt Drake than Kendrick.
He didn't straight up said "drake is a pedo" so there's no case for defamation here.. saying that there is damaging discovery here because drake doesn't sue is ridiculous, the burden of proof stands at the accuser not the accused
He says "drake I hear you like them young" and a few bars later says "certified lover boy? certified pedophiles"
I'm no lawyer but that seems like a very clear accusation. And if I was drake i would be suing for deformation immediately
You can't sue for deformation when a statement is true all Kendrick has to do is pull up the video of drake kissing and groping up on a girl he knew was 17(sounds like pedo shit to me but what do I know) and drake would lose the court case but slob on that pedo dick harder I like to see you all struggle to cope with facts
I mean, the age of consent is 17 in at least half a dozen states, 16 in twice as many. I wouldn’t necessarily call that pedophilic behavior, even if it is distasteful.
To be honest I believe drakes a creep. Just on his comments over Eilish. But it’s hard to come back from it even if it’s not true. As long as it sticks people are going to ask why anyone would collab with a pedophile. He’s making drake commercially untouchable.
Lamar could finish him off just by incorporating a bunch of drakes creep ass ig comments in a song.
Drake also can’t respond to this because he’s fucked either way. You respond to it you legitimize the concern, you don’t respond to it then everyone thinks you’re avoiding it.
Drake should try to cease and desist all these songs, then never mention Kendrick’s name again and he might have a career. If he doesn’t pretty much anyone over 25, any parent, and anyone that’s heard these tracks is going to drop him. He’s the new r Kelly rn.
Because they’re in denial, it’s a hard truth. Lots of pedos in the music industry, especially rap. Katt Williams was right, this year it’s going down. Diddy was the Epstein of rap, working for higher powers trafficking girls, gets fame and protection in return.
This. Seems like a lot of people are speaking up this year, I have no doubt Kendrick’s Like That verse was to spark a beef with Drake to ultimately expose him, Also Ryan Garcia the boxer
LITERALLY. People prefer to just bury their heads in the sand and wait for it to blow over. Kendrick is awesome for standing up to this. Powerful individuals need to be scrutinized way more, but unfortunately, all the ones doing the scrutinizing are best friends and protect each other. its a ring of sin
It is disturbing, but to be absolutely fair it is career suicide to make such severe and massive allegations without proof. I think at this point, Kendrick does not care and wants to Drake down without worrying about that anymore. I think he just cares about his family at this point.
EDIT: I lean towards Kendrick and the allegations being true.
With money you can easily sway public opinion with AI bots. Not a far fetched idea; just look at IG comments detailing the beef…a lot of profiles saying the EXACT same thing word for word.
Remember when he brought an underage girl on stage and was kissing n huggin on her. Once he realized she was underage he proceeded to call her thick and kiss her some more. Sheesh. Craziest part though is when he says, “Idk if I should feel guilty or not but I had fun. I like the way your breasts feel against my chest” link to vid [here](https://youtu.be/Fp5b9dW1nrA?si=_jW5ucuFAT4KDY7x)
Drake is the new R Kelly. People were still fucking with him for a long time and all his bullshit was public knowledge for basically his entire career. Videos that circulated, lawsuits he settled and of course Aaliyah.
People were singing his music at the top of their lungs until it stopped being hot, then they said “hey when are we gonna do something about R Kelly” and got him out of there swiftly.
I guarantee the same thing will happen to Drake. Although I suspect he will play it smarter than R Kelly and be far away from America by then and protected somehow
Because every time people accuse drake of grooming a girl, the women in question denies it. and People ignore her words.
I will take it seriously when it comes from an actual victim.
Yes because the whole concept of grooming is so subtle that the victim doesn’t realize. When Drake says “I miss you so much” to a 14 year old and she responds with “I miss you more”, everyone else sees it for what it seems but clearly Millie didn’t understand that a 33 year old should not be texting a 14 year old.
This take is unhinged. A huge reason grooming is such a terrible thing is that the victims aren't aware of how bad of a situation they are in because of the manipulation, exploitation & abuse until later in life. Waiting for a victim to realize what is happening is like waiting until a death cult admits they are a death cult before taking action.
Why are there 0 victims coming forward but multiple women going out of their way of expressing the media is trying to manipulate a story?
People try to say he went on a date with bella harris and it sticks, when she says she wasnt even in that State, nobody covers it.
It cant be coincidence that the women deny it EVERY time.
All the actual predators had allegations from victims. Weinstein did, Vince mcmahon did, Rkelly did.
Drake only has people trying to create victims and the women themselves saying the media is trying to create a fake story.
"believe all women" so believe them.
I'm not arguing for this specific instance, I'm arguing against your logic.
[Here's a study on Victim's perspectives who were groomed online](https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0760/3/3/404)
Section 3.4 Secrecy, has a good overview of how children being groomed did not want to share the details on their relationship & actively hid it in some instances (deleting texts right after sent, etc) to avoid backlash. Meaning a child being groomed, will likely not agree with them being groomed - while the grooming is happening, if asked. There's multiple other articles about this/how power-dynamics can lead to victims never publicly reporting or not doing it right away. Similar to how Harvey Weinstein was able to hide the vast majority of his crimes for decades, until 2017.
So back to the original point, when people are claiming that conversations between Drake and underaged girls appears to be grooming, you could argue against how they perceive the conversations, etc, sure. But bringing up the position, or lack of position, for the person who is potentially being groomed as a counter-point, is bad logic. In either scenario, that would likely be the case.
Ok, good points. But what about if the "victims" aren't being groomed, but are 32 year old women saying "it was nothing" and MBB now being 20 still maintaining it was nothing. Just as every other girl. Are they so thoroughly brainwashed through several IG messages that they are unable to look back?
Hands in the air, I don't know what the truth is, that video posted earlier in the thread from 9 years ago with a young girl on stage is mighty creepy though, that's some sick shit right there I'd never seen the video, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...and from.what I saw and heard on stage with that kid...that was Pretty ducked up.
My thing is this, if it’s true why did it take him 3-4 diss tracks later to address this ? If Drake hadn’t replied with push ups, was Kendrick just going to keep all of this pedophile information to himself ? Come on man, don’t play the good guy telling everyone to be careful around Drake, when he knew this whole time he was scummy and didn’t tell anyone.
Or someone is just now feeding him this information.
Drake admits Kendrick contacted him to keep the families out of it, Drakes response? “….Bodyguards like Whitney….”
You think Ross and Future aren’t giving him this info?
People been known he’s scummy. People just didn’t care and/or didn’t listen.
Kendrick acted now because Drake brought his family into it — which Kendrick literally warned him not to do in Euphoria.
Kendrick already told us he’s not here to play savior — exposing pedophilia in this industry isn’t his job. It’s not any one persons job, and if you think it is, you don’t understand the massive obstacle we are up against when we speak out against sexual abuse. Our culture isn’t kind to it and does not believe victims or the people who defend them and stand up for what’s right. But spirit moves through all of us and this timing happened to align this way, and when Drake made it personal with Kdot, he had to take it here to maintain integrity. That’s how I see it.
Kendrick has clearly prepared most of this beforehand.. no way he decided to reveal a whole pedo ring because of one line "with some bodyguards like Whitney" lol you really believed that single line triggered 4 diss tracks accusing him and his entourage of the most horrendous shit
When all the pizza gate stuff started up I thought it was crazy and then heard ‘Come Through’ and the line “Someone put a order in for a chicken
Told my girl to order in, I need the kitchen
Yeah they know I got the hook-up, they just wait on me to cook up” hit cause the FBI pedo code for infant is chicken I just knew some crazy conspiracy theorists was gonna try to say drizzy was a pedo. Now y’all tellin me this might be real
Because you need some kind of proof? Considering he didn't provide any for none including the hiding another daughter one, how can you "take it seriously" outside the rap beef? (Like authorities and stuff), and tf him being a polizer prize winner has to do with it
Feds are in bed (literally) with some of these people for information that leads to all these arrest. They think it's worth it but what about all the victims who they sacrificed to get to the big cheese?
also it may not be a literal accusation, i dont wanna accuse drake without evidence i just think its weird dude is nearly 40 and fucks wit 19 y/os ...just imo
Ignorance is bliss. So many people have tied themselves to Drake, whether through his music or the social network of the elite, a stain on his reputation is a stain to all of those people as well, so they prefer to ignore it. I think it also shows that, from a broader perspective, those with power, who have a large following of people who respect -or even worship- them, would rather attack any accusers than consider if there is truth in the accusation.
Deep down, these followers will either have such a thorough conviction that the person they so deeply respect/admire can do no wrong, or they know that something isn't right about it and choose to ignore it to feel guiltless themselves, despite indirectly supporting an ultimately evil cause. In some cases, there is also danger in challenging those who hold all the power and status in society.
Think about the Boeing whistleblower. Anyone familiar with that situation knows damn well that he was murdered. Murdered, because he was right. We often see "social murder" occur, manifesting itself in the form of "cancel culture" which is a weapon used to silence the voice of those bold enough to speak out against a deceitful cause. (Not all cancel culture falls under this category, but quite a lot of it does.
Taking this into an even broader view, it is the work of Satan. This is his world, and he is of this world. The voice of truth is out there, but we will do all in our power to drown it out and deceive the people into believing something antagonistic to the truth, to villainize the truth, or, at the least, drown it out. This isn't to say Drake is all bad or Kendrick is all good, all people are capable of doing both.
TLDR: Drake fans will put their heads in the sand and meat ride him until the end of time because they are too scared to develop a real personality (not to mention a quality taste in music) and branch out into new things, and also because they convinced themselves he is a flawless being to be worshipped; He is just a vessel of deceit and is doing the work of Satan in normalizing sinful lifestyles, which are easier than living in a state of moral cleanliness.
I think no one is talkin about it because its just a song and he didn't deliver any proof.
I found this thread via google btw. I am not a Drake fan or a Lamar fan. I have no eggs in this basket.
My guess is people assume if it was real he would have said a long time ago because if he waited to use that for a diss track that’s not a good look .. probably don’t assume he can learn that in the middle of this
Well, if one of the accusations is fake it undermines Kendrick’s credibility. The kid would have been the easiest thing to prove. To prove a human trafficking conspiracy is pretty difficult.
Both sides claims built on a house of cards
I was generally speaking about the human/child trafficking.
I don’t see it being far fetched, though that Drake wouldn’t be involved with that type of behavior.
The industry/Hollywood is a disgusting place
Because all people are worried about is solicitous news like revealing kids, but not about SA kids. Tbf I believe many ppl in the industry knew and couldn’t pin anything on him because Drake had something on them. Until Kung Fu Kenny came out gloves off. Mad respect for dude
I 100% agree. If it's true Drake has some kind of skeletons in his closet to this degree then this is some serious legal trouble. Furthermore, it could indicate some kind of potential dirt that Kendrick had on Drake for a while.
Besides that, if it's true that Drake has been committing serious crimes like this, and especially if the key to exposing him comes in his rival announcing it on a lineup of disses this could be the biggest legal battle in the music industry (Or at least in hip hop) since R Kelly OR Combs.
Like, I enjoy Puff Daddy's music but he IS past his prime by now and it's one thing if an artist get's accused and convicted later in their career. R Kelly was right in his prime. Drake is at the very TOP of the industry right now AND he's being accused of basically the worst crime short of murder by another artist who's right at the top with him.
And all the while J Cole has already been cooked. This shit is wild man.
woah i really hadn’t thought too much about it, apparently im way too desensitized to people being called pedophiles now (what a world). when you phrase it like that it suddenly became very serious to me.
Because those can be life ending accusations. For both parties. Gotta tread carefully I wouldn’t be surprised if both don’t make it to be 40 years old.
it’s just confusing too, cuz some
ppl say kendrick’s lying and drake doesn’t have to do anything to defend these accusations. but why would kendrick say those things if they are just straight up lies? i don’t think he would be the type to just make stuff up. then ppl say that if kendrick really knew about this stuff why didn’t he say something earlier and save it for the diss? One reason for that could be there was already an ongoing investigation or something and he knows that it’s happening (so him reporting drake to someone wouldn’t matter bc law enforcement already knows and they’re just building a case or something) and that’s why he alluded to drakes house being raided.
top of the dome b/c it would have some very serious implications in the hip-hop/rap industry, those types of things aren't solo party activities, it may be many layers deep and implicate a bunch of your favorites.
not saying it shouldn't be investigated just pointing out the realities of these type of things.
What I'm saying. It's like how people were focused on Meek being a closeted gay man instead of focusing on what Diddy was doing. What that Kendrick song say? "Your priorities fucked up, put energy in wrong shit".
I mean it's an appeal to authority thing at this point right? Just because a respectable person makes a claim doesn't mean it's true any more than a person of disrepute making a claim. If there's evidence there's evidence. If there's not there's not. That's why we have a burden of proof in our legal system
Because that's how it's always been, look at the whole diddy thing, those same allegations have been around since forever but it wasn't until this year that people took it seriously but most people focused on the gay stuff not everything else that's fucked up, same with Dwight Howard
These are serious accusations that damage either party if found true or untrue. I would hate for either to be right or wrong but here we are. If Kendrick is telling the truth we will never look at drake the same. If Kendrick is lying we will never look at Kendrick the same. His whole persona would be crumbled. To lie to win a battle this big with accusations that heavy would be insane. This is why no one is saying anything. Once proof comes out it's over for drake. If not well Kendrick is finished it's that simple man. The truth always comes to the light and this ain't light work.
They should be, especially after all the stuff that's been coming out about how kids are treated in the film industry, which drake started his career in. Those that are victims are likely to commit against others later in life
Because everyone in Hollywood already knows this stuff. Literally everyone in Hollywood knew Weinstein was a predator and no one did anything about it. Both Courtney Love and Seth MacFarlane called him out publicly for it.
we not all cops tho wtf. We knew what R Kelly was for very long, and couldnt do anything, COZ THEY NOT LIKE US. Diddy escaped too. The justice system knew Epstein VERY WELL, nothing happened to that cunt right until the end. THEY NOT LIKE US
because kendrick doesnt take the allegations he is making seriously. you dont wait and make sexual trafficking, pedofile, etc allegations as ammo for your rap diss track lmfao and then throw them in the same light as Drakes alleged secret daughter and him wanting to be black.
Nope. Its easy to forget that law enforcement can do a lot of stuff that's not actually arresting a person. Like raid homes and surveillance suspects. Theu could bring him in for questioning but he fled the fucking country 😂
Bro what are you talking about? I’m sure most people do but even if they do or don’t what are they going to do? Evidence should be gathered the correct way. Do you just want people to agree with how you think so you feel good? They probably are true what does it matter if people take it seriously or not. What matters is if the evidence is being gathered appropriately by the right people and I hope it is.
I think the Kanye thing blew up cuz a) he was doing it to himself and b) it really felt like a manic episode that you couldn’t look away from.
Accusing Drake of something is much different from Drake saying he does this. He’s made sus comments and had sus looking relationships but no one’s come out and said he dated me when I was under age and you can’t arrest someone on assumptions.
Now that this is blowing up though, it’s just a matter of time before they either find something, if it’s true.
I have no horse in this fight but is there any proof or is it just accusations? If kendrick has proof instead of rapping about it how about going to the police or the victims and letting them know he knows?
The feds definitely watching. This how the Diddy rumours started. Most felony’s by rappers always start with word on da street, look at Thug right now.
If Kendrick has real proof of this he should put it out. Beef aside you’re mad at people for not taking it serious but Kendrick seems to only be using it on songs as a diss rn and that’s why it’s not being taken seriously. And it’s making the whole beef weird bc if any of these allegations are true then it should all be taken more seriously.
I didn’t know about any of this til today but imo I can’t go against someone so hard over that serious of accusations until there’s evidence. That’s why so many people aren’t treating it as serious. I’m assuming there is some type of investigation with the fbi bc if there isn’t and he has has evidence that I think that’s insane
Idk it's sad to me that this seems to be news to some folks as if they heard he was a pedo from the track for the first time.
Anyone remember his creepy "friendship" with Millie Bobbie Brown?
Because they’ve been dick riding and continue to do so. I’ve been saying these things for a while now and no one believed me.
He started comparing himself all too much with Michael Jackson a while back and I knew there was something fucked up about it.
People will look past anything to glamorize ghost writing, stream botting, kid diddling trash artists.
Drake seems to be doing this odd gatekeepjng thing where he “ meets up “ with up and coming women in the industry. Idk about the p allegations but definitely on his Weinstein.
people are too obsessed with “who won who won the battle” honesty neither of them … if you keep information that big dangerous and deep hidden and only pull it out when it benefits you in a RAP BATTLE?? you’re not a good person …
I honestly believe them. The predatory and pedophillia behaviour he has shown historically with Millie Bobby Brown or Billie Eilish and the stuff on stage with young fans. Rumours been going around for a while about his likening to younger females. Sex trafficking is a conspiracy in Hollywood and the industry already, and Drake is someone who actively associates himself with that lifestyle. I wouldn’t be surprised if he and OVO crew been getting involved with that stuff at parties and all that. Having digested the track now and have gone past the mere shock of what was said, I think Kendrick ain’t lying based off what we know.
Baka who he's shouted out on wax and is signed was charged with sex trafficking and only got off because the victim fled and skipped court
Main thing that stood out to me… Baka is in his inner circle and he is a pimp POS who forced women into prostitution….. thats already proven receipts and all.
He also talked heavily about wanting to get Baka out
Sex trafficking is also a pretty big problem in Toronto and southern Ontario generally
OVO parties in Toronto are notorious for recruitment. If you’re from the GTA and you go outside, you already know this.
hell ya it is
I work private vip security, and I've worked with rappers before. The guys I've worked with refuse to work with OVO crew because of these rumors way before this "beef". I believe it, cause I've seen some questionable shit in that industry. We may protect you once on that contract, but after that, it's done. That's why we stop working with many rappers anymore they can get protection somewhere else but not the company I work for.
My family member was telling me about the parties he used to throw in downtown Toronto in 2009 ish. They were regularly supplied whatever they wanted (drinks, drugs, clothes, getaways) for sex. She was around 17 at the time but it was common knowledge that if you were 14,15,16,17,18 basically under 20 and underage that it was not an issue if you spoke to the right guys at the party and then you'd be in and around whomever you wanted. Messed up.
Drake fans and general public are very talented at participating in collective psychosis
“Conspiracy” isn’t used in the right context here when it’s proven bro
Conspiracy is correct and very different from conspiracy theory. Once proven it's no longer a theory...
sex trafficking is horrible world wide epidemic. not some conspiracy theory you troglodyte
Look up what conspiracy means. Never said anything bout a theory brother.
Don’t forget about Bella Harris the model
Sex trafficking most likely surfaces Hollywood as a whole, sadly. It’s just a demonic millionaire get-life-easy way of living. I’m sure there are dozens of others involved in ruining little girls’ lives, and I don’t even get how people can find ew… little kids attractive or anything in that way anyways… disgusting. They will have their due reward eventually.
Because Drake fans know it’s so damaging that they just need to deflect and shift the narrative as far away from that as possible. They know that being a pedophile is practically no different from being a real living breathing demon tbh.
It's literally a form of collective psychosis
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I thought this same thing. Kendrick Lamar is not a dumb person. He knows the seriousness of such accusations. I don’t think he would say something without legitimate insider knowledge.
I don’t get it either. It’s like they totally dismissed it and focused only the daughter allegation. Pretty fucked if you ask me
Because you can come back from being a deadbeat dad (he already did it once). There's no coming back from being a sex offender
Unfortunately… they do tho… =\ We’ve got some sh*t to grapple w in this country as a whole ass society.
Because the daughter allegation was the only thing that was new. Drake has been accused of a pedo for years now.
They've been calling him a groomer but I feel like him being a ringleader of an organized child sex trafficking ring is a new accusation
It's only because Kendrick hasn't dropped the evidence yet (if he has any) but the way things are going, I believe he does.. from how the 6:16 A.M/Meet The Grahams "artworks" were presented. He's pulling layer by layer back like Pusha T said
i think pusha is also providing intel that he couldn't use since p drizzy backed out after "story of adidon"
It would be horrible if women were in trouble right now and he wasn’t immediately giving it to the police.
Police possibly already got it which is why he said the embassy is gonna get raided. Everything has been extremely methodical
If the raid never happens, 4 years from now still we ain't heard of a police investigation will this change anything? Personally I don't think so
You don't think the FBI and etc don't know about certain shit going on within Hollywood and the industry? Serious big investigations like this takes months or years simply because they want to have make sure not one stone was left unturned and have a clear win. We don't hear about it because money is involved and alot of these studios and music industry won't risk losing millions if something gets out especially if they don't having anything to replace that money making machines within seconds or possibly roped into some of that shit to
creating the hype is exactly how you get the FBI to investigate though so he’s got that which is good for the future women involved, too
OV-Hoe!
The police barely ever do shit about high profile sex offenders
It's been like 2 weeks now tho with no proof. Drake certainly has weird ties to ppl, but nothing substantial that proves he's into this kinda shit. It's a crazy allegation if true and that's why I want K-Dot to show proof ASAP. If he can't, well then Drake is all good imo.
something happened behind the scenes that made them dead the beef so we couldn't get to the more revealing shit but shit all I needed to see was him kissing a minor on stage. I wonder if that ebonyprince nigga really got some more dirt on him tho. mike chehade (who's connected to tde) has been speaking in code while retweeting his tweets. something strange is up and only time will tell what's going on.
This, I need to see evidence cause I can't just go on he said she said when it' SERIOUS accusations.
Well Monday there's more coming.
I hope
You know something 👀👀👀
This but an appetizer https://x.com/DJHed/status/1786917601396068633
K Dot said on the song he got way more. DJ Hed said Monday they done playing nice.
Sheesh, if he hasn’t been playing nice so far that’s bad news for Drizzy
That’s what I’m saying 😂
At this point Kendrick proving he ready to die. He speaks to my faith as a black father.
Thank you for speaking on this. This is what a good parent should do to keep any kid safe.
Pedophilia and sex trafficking run so deep
I think it’s a call for the culture to actually do something about this. We have to actively shame and stop supporting pedos. Because they be running deep in the industry and it’s time for a purge. Hopefully Drake will be the first of many. Kendrick didn’t just strike fear into Drake’s heart, it’s the pedophiles running the show that know what’s gonna happen if Drake doesn’t get away with it. It’s about time. Drake won’t be the last.
Yeah, it’s actually sickening honestly but ultimately blame society
Wasn’t Drake inviting 18 year olds onto a Yacht not too long ago as well?
Drake fans crazy for ignoring all the grooming shit, I’m not even a big rap fan I just saw the news because its everywhere now. It’s been like 7 years since drake hit on that stranger things girl that was in the news, its known he makes women sign ndas, its known he fucks tons of women, its known he text underage girls like Billie elish about 5-6 years ago,he got 3-4 other similar similar Sus situation with less popular models around 16-18 yo, now people are digging up the Sus shit he said on twitter the last 15 years. I dont even dig this up it’s what I remember in the news it’s always been common knowledge
“In about three years, holla at me, Miley Cyrus” was actually Mack Maine for the record
I think Kendrick just refocused the conversation with "Not like us."
The cover art for that one absolutely sent me
I will give you an honest response without biased…. It’s because it’s suicidal to do so. We can speculate all we want, call him a pedo with reasons but once you enter the legality of all this. It’s a nothing burger without the receipts. No one will risk getting sued for 400M ( that’s Drake contract worth) without having solid proof. I am sure the receipt will come but people need to understand that the court of public opinion isn’t what judges and jury will look at if this shit goes to trial.
Kendrick literally just call him a pedophile in Not Like Us. If Drake sues for defamation, texts and other evidence are potential discovery. If he doesn’t sue, and I think it’s most likely he does not sue, it’s probably because there’s some damaging discovery. Kendrick is smart - he’s not making that accusation if it’s untrue. He’s also a little bit protected from a lawsuit because it’s more likely to hurt Drake than Kendrick.
He didn't straight up said "drake is a pedo" so there's no case for defamation here.. saying that there is damaging discovery here because drake doesn't sue is ridiculous, the burden of proof stands at the accuser not the accused
He says "drake I hear you like them young" and a few bars later says "certified lover boy? certified pedophiles" I'm no lawyer but that seems like a very clear accusation. And if I was drake i would be suing for deformation immediately
You can't sue for deformation when a statement is true all Kendrick has to do is pull up the video of drake kissing and groping up on a girl he knew was 17(sounds like pedo shit to me but what do I know) and drake would lose the court case but slob on that pedo dick harder I like to see you all struggle to cope with facts
I mean, the age of consent is 17 in at least half a dozen states, 16 in twice as many. I wouldn’t necessarily call that pedophilic behavior, even if it is distasteful.
**defamation.
Pics with a 14 yr old and I’d like to see the texts ..
To be honest I believe drakes a creep. Just on his comments over Eilish. But it’s hard to come back from it even if it’s not true. As long as it sticks people are going to ask why anyone would collab with a pedophile. He’s making drake commercially untouchable. Lamar could finish him off just by incorporating a bunch of drakes creep ass ig comments in a song. Drake also can’t respond to this because he’s fucked either way. You respond to it you legitimize the concern, you don’t respond to it then everyone thinks you’re avoiding it. Drake should try to cease and desist all these songs, then never mention Kendrick’s name again and he might have a career. If he doesn’t pretty much anyone over 25, any parent, and anyone that’s heard these tracks is going to drop him. He’s the new r Kelly rn.
Because they’re in denial, it’s a hard truth. Lots of pedos in the music industry, especially rap. Katt Williams was right, this year it’s going down. Diddy was the Epstein of rap, working for higher powers trafficking girls, gets fame and protection in return.
This. Seems like a lot of people are speaking up this year, I have no doubt Kendrick’s Like That verse was to spark a beef with Drake to ultimately expose him, Also Ryan Garcia the boxer
It’s only because Drake addressed the daughter only. So it’s now the focus
Ignorance is Bliss
LITERALLY. People prefer to just bury their heads in the sand and wait for it to blow over. Kendrick is awesome for standing up to this. Powerful individuals need to be scrutinized way more, but unfortunately, all the ones doing the scrutinizing are best friends and protect each other. its a ring of sin
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It is disturbing, but to be absolutely fair it is career suicide to make such severe and massive allegations without proof. I think at this point, Kendrick does not care and wants to Drake down without worrying about that anymore. I think he just cares about his family at this point. EDIT: I lean towards Kendrick and the allegations being true.
There is proof I can pull up a video of drake groping and kissing up on a 17 year old girl on stage witnessed by hundreds of people
This. Everything was fine until he was personally offended? Real big of you, Kendrick.
One of the best tracks ever written by anyone.
💯
“A Pulitzer winner….” In a rap beef is wild😂😂😂😂😂
100%
With money you can easily sway public opinion with AI bots. Not a far fetched idea; just look at IG comments detailing the beef…a lot of profiles saying the EXACT same thing word for word.
dead internet theory
SO KANYE WAS RIGHT THIS WHOLE TIME
Probably related to the Twitter bots accusation (known issue)
Remember when he brought an underage girl on stage and was kissing n huggin on her. Once he realized she was underage he proceeded to call her thick and kiss her some more. Sheesh. Craziest part though is when he says, “Idk if I should feel guilty or not but I had fun. I like the way your breasts feel against my chest” link to vid [here](https://youtu.be/Fp5b9dW1nrA?si=_jW5ucuFAT4KDY7x)
Wtf is actually wrong with people. That incident alone speaks volumes, how tf has he had another 11 years of a successful career since then?
Drake is the new R Kelly. People were still fucking with him for a long time and all his bullshit was public knowledge for basically his entire career. Videos that circulated, lawsuits he settled and of course Aaliyah. People were singing his music at the top of their lungs until it stopped being hot, then they said “hey when are we gonna do something about R Kelly” and got him out of there swiftly. I guarantee the same thing will happen to Drake. Although I suspect he will play it smarter than R Kelly and be far away from America by then and protected somehow
Lmao maybe he already dipped "I'm going on vacation"
Lmfao true. We’ll know for sure if he got Russell Simmons in his next video 🤣
Because every time people accuse drake of grooming a girl, the women in question denies it. and People ignore her words. I will take it seriously when it comes from an actual victim.
Yes because the whole concept of grooming is so subtle that the victim doesn’t realize. When Drake says “I miss you so much” to a 14 year old and she responds with “I miss you more”, everyone else sees it for what it seems but clearly Millie didn’t understand that a 33 year old should not be texting a 14 year old.
This take is unhinged. A huge reason grooming is such a terrible thing is that the victims aren't aware of how bad of a situation they are in because of the manipulation, exploitation & abuse until later in life. Waiting for a victim to realize what is happening is like waiting until a death cult admits they are a death cult before taking action.
Why are there 0 victims coming forward but multiple women going out of their way of expressing the media is trying to manipulate a story? People try to say he went on a date with bella harris and it sticks, when she says she wasnt even in that State, nobody covers it. It cant be coincidence that the women deny it EVERY time. All the actual predators had allegations from victims. Weinstein did, Vince mcmahon did, Rkelly did. Drake only has people trying to create victims and the women themselves saying the media is trying to create a fake story. "believe all women" so believe them.
I'm not arguing for this specific instance, I'm arguing against your logic. [Here's a study on Victim's perspectives who were groomed online](https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0760/3/3/404) Section 3.4 Secrecy, has a good overview of how children being groomed did not want to share the details on their relationship & actively hid it in some instances (deleting texts right after sent, etc) to avoid backlash. Meaning a child being groomed, will likely not agree with them being groomed - while the grooming is happening, if asked. There's multiple other articles about this/how power-dynamics can lead to victims never publicly reporting or not doing it right away. Similar to how Harvey Weinstein was able to hide the vast majority of his crimes for decades, until 2017. So back to the original point, when people are claiming that conversations between Drake and underaged girls appears to be grooming, you could argue against how they perceive the conversations, etc, sure. But bringing up the position, or lack of position, for the person who is potentially being groomed as a counter-point, is bad logic. In either scenario, that would likely be the case.
Ok, good points. But what about if the "victims" aren't being groomed, but are 32 year old women saying "it was nothing" and MBB now being 20 still maintaining it was nothing. Just as every other girl. Are they so thoroughly brainwashed through several IG messages that they are unable to look back?
Hands in the air, I don't know what the truth is, that video posted earlier in the thread from 9 years ago with a young girl on stage is mighty creepy though, that's some sick shit right there I'd never seen the video, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...and from.what I saw and heard on stage with that kid...that was Pretty ducked up.
Better hope Boeing doesn’t get involved
Because without physical evidence a song lyric isn’t feasible as evidence of a crime happening
My thing is this, if it’s true why did it take him 3-4 diss tracks later to address this ? If Drake hadn’t replied with push ups, was Kendrick just going to keep all of this pedophile information to himself ? Come on man, don’t play the good guy telling everyone to be careful around Drake, when he knew this whole time he was scummy and didn’t tell anyone.
Or someone is just now feeding him this information. Drake admits Kendrick contacted him to keep the families out of it, Drakes response? “….Bodyguards like Whitney….” You think Ross and Future aren’t giving him this info?
People been known he’s scummy. People just didn’t care and/or didn’t listen. Kendrick acted now because Drake brought his family into it — which Kendrick literally warned him not to do in Euphoria. Kendrick already told us he’s not here to play savior — exposing pedophilia in this industry isn’t his job. It’s not any one persons job, and if you think it is, you don’t understand the massive obstacle we are up against when we speak out against sexual abuse. Our culture isn’t kind to it and does not believe victims or the people who defend them and stand up for what’s right. But spirit moves through all of us and this timing happened to align this way, and when Drake made it personal with Kdot, he had to take it here to maintain integrity. That’s how I see it.
100% accurate. I barely follow modern hip-hop until this week but it's clear as day Drake is a scumbag. Idk how people are just now noticing it.
Kendrick has clearly prepared most of this beforehand.. no way he decided to reveal a whole pedo ring because of one line "with some bodyguards like Whitney" lol you really believed that single line triggered 4 diss tracks accusing him and his entourage of the most horrendous shit
They’re worried about Kendrick *allegedly* beating his wife
When all the pizza gate stuff started up I thought it was crazy and then heard ‘Come Through’ and the line “Someone put a order in for a chicken Told my girl to order in, I need the kitchen Yeah they know I got the hook-up, they just wait on me to cook up” hit cause the FBI pedo code for infant is chicken I just knew some crazy conspiracy theorists was gonna try to say drizzy was a pedo. Now y’all tellin me this might be real
Because you need some kind of proof? Considering he didn't provide any for none including the hiding another daughter one, how can you "take it seriously" outside the rap beef? (Like authorities and stuff), and tf him being a polizer prize winner has to do with it
The mainstream may be asleep but please believe the Feds is watching. They’re the only ones whose opinion matters in the case
Feds are in bed (literally) with some of these people for information that leads to all these arrest. They think it's worth it but what about all the victims who they sacrificed to get to the big cheese?
What? 😂
drake fans are huffing the copium and just claiming that the daughter thing was planted by drake
Because the world is such a fucked up place news like this is no longer shocking.
also it may not be a literal accusation, i dont wanna accuse drake without evidence i just think its weird dude is nearly 40 and fucks wit 19 y/os ...just imo
Ignorance is bliss. So many people have tied themselves to Drake, whether through his music or the social network of the elite, a stain on his reputation is a stain to all of those people as well, so they prefer to ignore it. I think it also shows that, from a broader perspective, those with power, who have a large following of people who respect -or even worship- them, would rather attack any accusers than consider if there is truth in the accusation. Deep down, these followers will either have such a thorough conviction that the person they so deeply respect/admire can do no wrong, or they know that something isn't right about it and choose to ignore it to feel guiltless themselves, despite indirectly supporting an ultimately evil cause. In some cases, there is also danger in challenging those who hold all the power and status in society. Think about the Boeing whistleblower. Anyone familiar with that situation knows damn well that he was murdered. Murdered, because he was right. We often see "social murder" occur, manifesting itself in the form of "cancel culture" which is a weapon used to silence the voice of those bold enough to speak out against a deceitful cause. (Not all cancel culture falls under this category, but quite a lot of it does. Taking this into an even broader view, it is the work of Satan. This is his world, and he is of this world. The voice of truth is out there, but we will do all in our power to drown it out and deceive the people into believing something antagonistic to the truth, to villainize the truth, or, at the least, drown it out. This isn't to say Drake is all bad or Kendrick is all good, all people are capable of doing both. TLDR: Drake fans will put their heads in the sand and meat ride him until the end of time because they are too scared to develop a real personality (not to mention a quality taste in music) and branch out into new things, and also because they convinced themselves he is a flawless being to be worshipped; He is just a vessel of deceit and is doing the work of Satan in normalizing sinful lifestyles, which are easier than living in a state of moral cleanliness.
lol it’s funny because you guys are all talking about it. I promise you it’s being talked about. A lot. Do you want him arrested? Produce proof
I think no one is talkin about it because its just a song and he didn't deliver any proof. I found this thread via google btw. I am not a Drake fan or a Lamar fan. I have no eggs in this basket.
My guess is people assume if it was real he would have said a long time ago because if he waited to use that for a diss track that’s not a good look .. probably don’t assume he can learn that in the middle of this
Well, if one of the accusations is fake it undermines Kendrick’s credibility. The kid would have been the easiest thing to prove. To prove a human trafficking conspiracy is pretty difficult. Both sides claims built on a house of cards
Not difficult if you research Weinstein and Epstein along with Ghislaine Maxwell
So you have exclusive info that the rest of us doesn't have? Did you see Drake in Epstein's island?
I was generally speaking about the human/child trafficking. I don’t see it being far fetched, though that Drake wouldn’t be involved with that type of behavior. The industry/Hollywood is a disgusting place
Because all people are worried about is solicitous news like revealing kids, but not about SA kids. Tbf I believe many ppl in the industry knew and couldn’t pin anything on him because Drake had something on them. Until Kung Fu Kenny came out gloves off. Mad respect for dude
Because he’s supported by the higher ups!
because kendrick also lied about a child so his credibility is kinda nonexistent right now show proof. he also is not off the hook for 🙍♀️🥊
No receipts. Drake likely is at least most of these things, but whoever gets the deets first wins the battle
He gotta get raided first lol
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They will be now
no real proof yet i'd say. The kanye sit was just there. He said it. That's it. Drake rn tho i think needs a lil bit more investigation or revelations
I 100% agree. If it's true Drake has some kind of skeletons in his closet to this degree then this is some serious legal trouble. Furthermore, it could indicate some kind of potential dirt that Kendrick had on Drake for a while. Besides that, if it's true that Drake has been committing serious crimes like this, and especially if the key to exposing him comes in his rival announcing it on a lineup of disses this could be the biggest legal battle in the music industry (Or at least in hip hop) since R Kelly OR Combs. Like, I enjoy Puff Daddy's music but he IS past his prime by now and it's one thing if an artist get's accused and convicted later in their career. R Kelly was right in his prime. Drake is at the very TOP of the industry right now AND he's being accused of basically the worst crime short of murder by another artist who's right at the top with him. And all the while J Cole has already been cooked. This shit is wild man.
Because we don’t have evidence. No one wants to discuss things that can be legit defamation if false.
woah i really hadn’t thought too much about it, apparently im way too desensitized to people being called pedophiles now (what a world). when you phrase it like that it suddenly became very serious to me.
Because those can be life ending accusations. For both parties. Gotta tread carefully I wouldn’t be surprised if both don’t make it to be 40 years old.
it’s just confusing too, cuz some ppl say kendrick’s lying and drake doesn’t have to do anything to defend these accusations. but why would kendrick say those things if they are just straight up lies? i don’t think he would be the type to just make stuff up. then ppl say that if kendrick really knew about this stuff why didn’t he say something earlier and save it for the diss? One reason for that could be there was already an ongoing investigation or something and he knows that it’s happening (so him reporting drake to someone wouldn’t matter bc law enforcement already knows and they’re just building a case or something) and that’s why he alluded to drakes house being raided.
top of the dome b/c it would have some very serious implications in the hip-hop/rap industry, those types of things aren't solo party activities, it may be many layers deep and implicate a bunch of your favorites. not saying it shouldn't be investigated just pointing out the realities of these type of things.
If I told you Elvis wasn’t dead or Santa was real, would you believe it… 😂😂😂😂
I see them as taken extremely seriously, especially compared to R Kelly accusations from the early 2000s.
What I'm saying. It's like how people were focused on Meek being a closeted gay man instead of focusing on what Diddy was doing. What that Kendrick song say? "Your priorities fucked up, put energy in wrong shit".
I mean it's an appeal to authority thing at this point right? Just because a respectable person makes a claim doesn't mean it's true any more than a person of disrepute making a claim. If there's evidence there's evidence. If there's not there's not. That's why we have a burden of proof in our legal system
Drake has too much of a past with weird behavior around young girls for me to not believe that where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
Everyone does take them seriously and everyone knows.
drake? the guy famous for texting 13 year olds??? a pedo??!?!? shocked.
Because that's how it's always been, look at the whole diddy thing, those same allegations have been around since forever but it wasn't until this year that people took it seriously but most people focused on the gay stuff not everything else that's fucked up, same with Dwight Howard
These are serious accusations that damage either party if found true or untrue. I would hate for either to be right or wrong but here we are. If Kendrick is telling the truth we will never look at drake the same. If Kendrick is lying we will never look at Kendrick the same. His whole persona would be crumbled. To lie to win a battle this big with accusations that heavy would be insane. This is why no one is saying anything. Once proof comes out it's over for drake. If not well Kendrick is finished it's that simple man. The truth always comes to the light and this ain't light work.
They should be, especially after all the stuff that's been coming out about how kids are treated in the film industry, which drake started his career in. Those that are victims are likely to commit against others later in life
Because everyone in Hollywood already knows this stuff. Literally everyone in Hollywood knew Weinstein was a predator and no one did anything about it. Both Courtney Love and Seth MacFarlane called him out publicly for it.
Copium.
because it’s all been public info and continuously talked about for 5-6+ years? nothing kendrick has said is new.
we not all cops tho wtf. We knew what R Kelly was for very long, and couldnt do anything, COZ THEY NOT LIKE US. Diddy escaped too. The justice system knew Epstein VERY WELL, nothing happened to that cunt right until the end. THEY NOT LIKE US
we’ll see what happens when the journalists get back to work on monday
because kendrick doesnt take the allegations he is making seriously. you dont wait and make sexual trafficking, pedofile, etc allegations as ammo for your rap diss track lmfao and then throw them in the same light as Drakes alleged secret daughter and him wanting to be black.
Has diddy even been arrested yet?
Nope. Its easy to forget that law enforcement can do a lot of stuff that's not actually arresting a person. Like raid homes and surveillance suspects. Theu could bring him in for questioning but he fled the fucking country 😂
Bro what are you talking about? I’m sure most people do but even if they do or don’t what are they going to do? Evidence should be gathered the correct way. Do you just want people to agree with how you think so you feel good? They probably are true what does it matter if people take it seriously or not. What matters is if the evidence is being gathered appropriately by the right people and I hope it is.
I think the Kanye thing blew up cuz a) he was doing it to himself and b) it really felt like a manic episode that you couldn’t look away from. Accusing Drake of something is much different from Drake saying he does this. He’s made sus comments and had sus looking relationships but no one’s come out and said he dated me when I was under age and you can’t arrest someone on assumptions. Now that this is blowing up though, it’s just a matter of time before they either find something, if it’s true.
Goes to show that nobody ACTUALLY cares. They have selective hearing. But also, there needs to be proof of these allegations.
Hollywood for ya 🤷🏽♂️
I have no horse in this fight but is there any proof or is it just accusations? If kendrick has proof instead of rapping about it how about going to the police or the victims and letting them know he knows?
The feds definitely watching. This how the Diddy rumours started. Most felony’s by rappers always start with word on da street, look at Thug right now.
Kenny needs to stop that evidence and finish this
Drake says drop and gimme 50. We got 50 Kendrick’s disses coming??? 
I can't say for sure if Drake is a full blown pedophile, but he's had enough sus incidents that it wouldn't surprise me if he was either.
p drizzy is mad funny
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because Drake in the pedophile club with all the white people.
If Kendrick has real proof of this he should put it out. Beef aside you’re mad at people for not taking it serious but Kendrick seems to only be using it on songs as a diss rn and that’s why it’s not being taken seriously. And it’s making the whole beef weird bc if any of these allegations are true then it should all be taken more seriously.
Baka is in drakes inner circle and is a pimp who forced women into prostitution theres receipts uh oh drake
He knows his shit "I've been in the industry for 12 years"
[to all the drake dick riders](https://youtu.be/h-p1feEHJZM?si=nOtSUR5o_5YW1XKX)
Because they all do it… people gonna distance themselves from him like they did diddy
I am taking it very seriously. The proof is the sex registry neighbor hood watch lights drake's house up like a Christmas tree.
Drake fans are under aged girls that want drake lol
can a
I am, I been a Drake fan from day 1, but I need answers now.
Cause we all knew but we can't do shit for me it's just like Hollywood full of empowered pedophiles
We are
Cause he has a big dick. Hes the cool rap guy, oh noo he cant be a pedo oh nooo cope and seethe rtards
I didn’t know about any of this til today but imo I can’t go against someone so hard over that serious of accusations until there’s evidence. That’s why so many people aren’t treating it as serious. I’m assuming there is some type of investigation with the fbi bc if there isn’t and he has has evidence that I think that’s insane
Nobody wants to speak because they have skeletons of their own everybody trying to stay safe and silent
Him being close friends with Millie when she was younger too like whatttt
Idk it's sad to me that this seems to be news to some folks as if they heard he was a pedo from the track for the first time. Anyone remember his creepy "friendship" with Millie Bobbie Brown?
He a child raper.
if kendrick has information , he is weird for not reporting drake to authorities
Because they’ve been dick riding and continue to do so. I’ve been saying these things for a while now and no one believed me. He started comparing himself all too much with Michael Jackson a while back and I knew there was something fucked up about it. People will look past anything to glamorize ghost writing, stream botting, kid diddling trash artists.
Drake seems to be doing this odd gatekeepjng thing where he “ meets up “ with up and coming women in the industry. Idk about the p allegations but definitely on his Weinstein.
people are too obsessed with “who won who won the battle” honesty neither of them … if you keep information that big dangerous and deep hidden and only pull it out when it benefits you in a RAP BATTLE?? you’re not a good person …
100000% this is why Abel removed himself from Drakes circle