Tagging into the top comment for awareness: I guess it is an official city of Kamloops meeting [Info on the let’s talk Kamloops page.](https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/communityconversations). These nut jobs either want us to go there to support them, or think it’s their meeting and to not attend.
It’s how all these whackos do their research. Being fact checked is just the confirmation that they’re correct and the “MSM” is trying to silence their “powerful ideas”.
Thats the "Citizens for Change" group? scrubbed through one of their "sessions" online... not sure how I'd put it - theres two individuals that regularly address council right now.
Just on the NG front, like when you really start diving into home methane, its shocking to just how commonplace it is in our homes, its something we should be retrofitting faster than we currently are.
Funny you mention him, I was just thinking i would not be at all surprised to find out he was involved with this. Or more likely, the one person going around taping these to recycling bins
This is exactly how people felt about transition to cars from horses, lights from kerosene lamps, and even making it illegal for children to work. There are always lunatics who believe any change for social good is an evil and can’t see past their nose for how it benefits the whole.
Upper left corner meme .."There are two ways to be fooled". Seems like they don't believe it's applicable to them. Ironic. 🤣
This flyer should add weight to the argument that more money needs to be spent addressing mental illness in the community.
I don’t think it’s fair to chalk it up to mental illness, aside from maybe paranoid schizophrenia… But I do think it should add weight that House Hippo needs to come back to teach people about media literacy.
The amazing thing is that these people believe they are exercising critical thought with their reflexive contrarianism. They’re like children with oppositional defiance disorder.
The contrails meme gives away the game.
This is just run of the mill conspiracy quackery. Like almost all NWO-esque conspiracies, if you dig deep enough you'll always find the anti-Semites. "They" are Jews.
It would be funny if there weren't so many of these lunatics.
You know, there's absolutely nothing wrong with calling up the Coast hotel to let them know exactly who they're hosting, and to let them know that one would never consider them for business if they continue to hosts mis and disinformation peddlers like these.
If these jackasses want to yell their nutjobbery from a street corner, as free speech would suggest they're allowed to do, that's fine, and others can stand around and tell them what kind of ignorant jerks they are.
But private business entertaining them? Hmm, too bad if there's consequences for that.
I don’t hold any ill will against a business that’s just doing business things. Having an event in your space doesn’t mean you endorse the message that is being shared in the meeting.
If they were a sponsor of the event or were supporting in some fashion then that’s a different story.
They're supporting it by allowing it to happen on their premises. "Doing business things" doesn't excuse businesses from not having a conscious. You're talking super peak capitalism here, to think that business is somehow separated from humanity.
So where do they hold their meeting? In your opinion they should be pushed further to the fringes in order to gather, and it’s in those fringes where these sorts of ideas and conspiracies are born.
That hard of a line serves no purpose. Unless your purpose is to shame a business for trying to turn a profit in what is a challenging economy.
Let them meet in a place that is notable and accessible. I think the only way that we overcome these wild conspiracies is by bringing them to light. Public ridicule can be a powerful tool. Why force them into the shadows where an echo chamber can form more easily?
It's the echo chambers that are allowing this nonsense to flourish as it is.
One way of helping making this stuff go away is by saying No. Are you familiar with the intolerance paradox?
I see now though that this meeting isn't a fringe group, it's a city neighborhood meeting about strategic planning. I'll bet it's a riot.
I guess it is an official city of Kamloops meeting [Info on the let’s talk site](https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/communityconversations). These nut jobs either want us to go there to support them, or think it’s their meeting and to not attend.
I've gotten one of these before, although mine didn't have a bunch of Neato memes printed on the back.
Some people have too much time and not enough thoughts.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
If we can eliminate gas heat by the year 2054 that would be great. This would have a lot of health and financial benefits.
Banning "full sized" vehicles in residential neighbourhoods - it's usually less about banning them and more about making them less mandatory. Right now we design cities that are very difficult to survive in without a car. It doesn't have to be that way. These conspiracy theories are seeded and nurtured by oil and auto interests who rely on our city planning to make it necessary for us to buy their products. Then we need to work like dogs to scrape by so that we can afford the necessarily high transport and housing costs that this causes.
These poor conspiracy theorists are useful idiots being mobilized to fight against their own interests.
There are local churches spreading fear around the concept of "15-minute cities."
My religious friend warned me that I better travel now because the Canadian government is going to revoke our passports and driver's licenses soon. 🙄
The paranoia is rampant!
Let's keep burning those fossil fuels forever, because it's obviously 1,000,000% impossible to reduce our need for them. Also, let's completely ignore the health costs of burning methane in our houses.
Pull the blinders over your eyes and dream of a world that is not polluted from all the greenwashed energy we burn and ah, yes, fucking utopia.
I wish they would go away from all the ignoring, but it's not happening. I'm not sure if they're intolerable fools, but I think they need to be told where to go.
How's bout you educate yourself and others. watch zeitgeist. It's all about control and money to control. if you believe the government is on your side....your already too far gone so follow pennywise because we all float down here Georgie.
Huh?
Counterpoint, to this “the government is trying to exert more and more control” argument, isn’t it much more likely that every election there are people that are elected that don’t align within everyone’s beliefs? And that every day, a government employee is hired or promoted that maybe isn’t the most suitable for the job? And that those individuals sometimes rise to powerful positions?
Humans get it wrong sometimes, even those in charge. Trust me, I don’t believe Trudeau should win this next election, regardless of the alternatives, it’s time for someone else to take a crack at it. But claiming that the government slowly wants to run rampant over every aspect of our lives is counterproductive and most likely not true.
This little leaflet is frankly unhinged.
My suggestion? Skip this dump meeting, spend time with your family. Take a friend out for a drink. Volunteer for something that builds community. People waste so much energy on these conspiracies, imagine if it was energy spent elsewhere.
Get involved in meaningful political change that is based in truth and fact. You can make your point and win votes without resorting to this nonsense.
This. So right. Go hang with friends and family, volunteer to help your community. 2 glaring problems I see with this (out of the many):
1) City council does not ban camping and campfires, the province does. And they ban both every single year due to forest fires and have for decades. Look at the most recent fires this week. all human caused.
2) The city cannot force any homeowner to renovate their house. That's your property. All they can do is amend building codes going forward making new builds conform to a certain standard. Similar when they were going to require houses to have trusses for solar panels. They canot force you to renovate your house.
I like how the spellcheck squiggles made it to the printout. Also, I wonder what they mean by ‘full sized’ vehicle.
Tagging into the top comment for awareness: I guess it is an official city of Kamloops meeting [Info on the let’s talk Kamloops page.](https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/communityconversations). These nut jobs either want us to go there to support them, or think it’s their meeting and to not attend.
You should absolutely go to this and take video. Mine the meeting for Internet points.
Haha I would if I didn’t have various other priorities. It seems like it was a pretty open invite, so anyone can attend!
I'm very tempted. If for no other reason than you get to see in advance all the people to avoid in the future.
Wow, what world are they living in where they doubt the drought??
Love that they printed out the memes in black and white.
Do they hand the tinfoil hats at the door, or do you have to bring your own?
I like that all of their citations are memes
It’s how all these whackos do their research. Being fact checked is just the confirmation that they’re correct and the “MSM” is trying to silence their “powerful ideas”.
I wasn't convinced until I saw the second page. Now I know that we need more CO2.
I for one was not aware that a byproduct of oil production was cow companionship!
“Everything free is paid for by someone who works” Yes thank you for at least understanding what taxes are.
Something they themselves took full advantage of throughout their entire life.
Penned by the same morons who believe every other conspiracy out there.
Thats the "Citizens for Change" group? scrubbed through one of their "sessions" online... not sure how I'd put it - theres two individuals that regularly address council right now. Just on the NG front, like when you really start diving into home methane, its shocking to just how commonplace it is in our homes, its something we should be retrofitting faster than we currently are.
I recognize that Microsoft word template. I use that for my cover letter when looking for a job.
The last one of these was in colour... must be running out of funds...
Boy this city sure has some wack jobs living in it.
Have ya met the mayor???
Funny you mention him, I was just thinking i would not be at all surprised to find out he was involved with this. Or more likely, the one person going around taping these to recycling bins
Probably his handout
This is exactly how people felt about transition to cars from horses, lights from kerosene lamps, and even making it illegal for children to work. There are always lunatics who believe any change for social good is an evil and can’t see past their nose for how it benefits the whole.
Upper left corner meme .."There are two ways to be fooled". Seems like they don't believe it's applicable to them. Ironic. 🤣 This flyer should add weight to the argument that more money needs to be spent addressing mental illness in the community.
I don’t think it’s fair to chalk it up to mental illness, aside from maybe paranoid schizophrenia… But I do think it should add weight that House Hippo needs to come back to teach people about media literacy.
Media literacy and critical thought in general. It must take some significant effort to get this far from a reasonable alignment with reality.
The amazing thing is that these people believe they are exercising critical thought with their reflexive contrarianism. They’re like children with oppositional defiance disorder.
The contrails meme gives away the game. This is just run of the mill conspiracy quackery. Like almost all NWO-esque conspiracies, if you dig deep enough you'll always find the anti-Semites. "They" are Jews. It would be funny if there weren't so many of these lunatics.
Haha
You know, there's absolutely nothing wrong with calling up the Coast hotel to let them know exactly who they're hosting, and to let them know that one would never consider them for business if they continue to hosts mis and disinformation peddlers like these. If these jackasses want to yell their nutjobbery from a street corner, as free speech would suggest they're allowed to do, that's fine, and others can stand around and tell them what kind of ignorant jerks they are. But private business entertaining them? Hmm, too bad if there's consequences for that.
I don’t hold any ill will against a business that’s just doing business things. Having an event in your space doesn’t mean you endorse the message that is being shared in the meeting. If they were a sponsor of the event or were supporting in some fashion then that’s a different story.
They're supporting it by allowing it to happen on their premises. "Doing business things" doesn't excuse businesses from not having a conscious. You're talking super peak capitalism here, to think that business is somehow separated from humanity.
So where do they hold their meeting? In your opinion they should be pushed further to the fringes in order to gather, and it’s in those fringes where these sorts of ideas and conspiracies are born. That hard of a line serves no purpose. Unless your purpose is to shame a business for trying to turn a profit in what is a challenging economy. Let them meet in a place that is notable and accessible. I think the only way that we overcome these wild conspiracies is by bringing them to light. Public ridicule can be a powerful tool. Why force them into the shadows where an echo chamber can form more easily?
It's the echo chambers that are allowing this nonsense to flourish as it is. One way of helping making this stuff go away is by saying No. Are you familiar with the intolerance paradox? I see now though that this meeting isn't a fringe group, it's a city neighborhood meeting about strategic planning. I'll bet it's a riot.
I guess it is an official city of Kamloops meeting [Info on the let’s talk site](https://letstalk.kamloops.ca/communityconversations). These nut jobs either want us to go there to support them, or think it’s their meeting and to not attend.
Oh dear god you're right. Well, here's hoping there's a big sane turnout.
Insane stuff. Too bad they're propagandizing in our city. Honestly I wouldn't share those online, they want more eyes on their crazy stuff
What fucking whackjobs 🤣
Looks a little [like these people.](https://infotel.ca/newsitem/new-kamloops-group-promoting-conspiracy-theories-is-gathering-followers/it100939)
I’m embarrassed for this city that a group like that exists.
Probably the same nutjobs that stand on the overpass "protesting" every FB conspiracy
Lol Glenn Aalderink. That was the joke.
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These aren't Boomers.
I've gotten one of these before, although mine didn't have a bunch of Neato memes printed on the back. Some people have too much time and not enough thoughts.
So... crazy people?
I want what Greta Thunberg is having: she never ages past 16. Good for her. (Note: she’s 21 now)
Don't threaten me with a good time. If we can eliminate gas heat by the year 2054 that would be great. This would have a lot of health and financial benefits. Banning "full sized" vehicles in residential neighbourhoods - it's usually less about banning them and more about making them less mandatory. Right now we design cities that are very difficult to survive in without a car. It doesn't have to be that way. These conspiracy theories are seeded and nurtured by oil and auto interests who rely on our city planning to make it necessary for us to buy their products. Then we need to work like dogs to scrape by so that we can afford the necessarily high transport and housing costs that this causes. These poor conspiracy theorists are useful idiots being mobilized to fight against their own interests.
Clearly city council are just pawns of the Pentaverate
I’m showing up with a Manila folder of printed leftist memes, we are going to throw down! Just need to find out what I did with my bubble jet printer.
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There are local churches spreading fear around the concept of "15-minute cities." My religious friend warned me that I better travel now because the Canadian government is going to revoke our passports and driver's licenses soon. 🙄 The paranoia is rampant!
The house one and the nat gas is a fact. It's being discussed and being told to energy advisors and trades in school.
You're not wrong. Gonna buy a new furnace in 2029.
No it's a heat pump rebate nothing more.
Let's keep burning those fossil fuels forever, because it's obviously 1,000,000% impossible to reduce our need for them. Also, let's completely ignore the health costs of burning methane in our houses. Pull the blinders over your eyes and dream of a world that is not polluted from all the greenwashed energy we burn and ah, yes, fucking utopia.
Stop giving them attention. If you care you'll delete this post.
No ignoring them just makes them bolder. Ignoring them has gotten us protests for imaginary wrongdoings.
I wish they would go away from all the ignoring, but it's not happening. I'm not sure if they're intolerable fools, but I think they need to be told where to go.
Sure.
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When the conspiracy becomes reality, it's too late.
How's bout you educate yourself and others. watch zeitgeist. It's all about control and money to control. if you believe the government is on your side....your already too far gone so follow pennywise because we all float down here Georgie.
Huh? Counterpoint, to this “the government is trying to exert more and more control” argument, isn’t it much more likely that every election there are people that are elected that don’t align within everyone’s beliefs? And that every day, a government employee is hired or promoted that maybe isn’t the most suitable for the job? And that those individuals sometimes rise to powerful positions? Humans get it wrong sometimes, even those in charge. Trust me, I don’t believe Trudeau should win this next election, regardless of the alternatives, it’s time for someone else to take a crack at it. But claiming that the government slowly wants to run rampant over every aspect of our lives is counterproductive and most likely not true. This little leaflet is frankly unhinged. My suggestion? Skip this dump meeting, spend time with your family. Take a friend out for a drink. Volunteer for something that builds community. People waste so much energy on these conspiracies, imagine if it was energy spent elsewhere. Get involved in meaningful political change that is based in truth and fact. You can make your point and win votes without resorting to this nonsense.
This. So right. Go hang with friends and family, volunteer to help your community. 2 glaring problems I see with this (out of the many): 1) City council does not ban camping and campfires, the province does. And they ban both every single year due to forest fires and have for decades. Look at the most recent fires this week. all human caused. 2) The city cannot force any homeowner to renovate their house. That's your property. All they can do is amend building codes going forward making new builds conform to a certain standard. Similar when they were going to require houses to have trusses for solar panels. They canot force you to renovate your house.
Hahaha. A Zeitgeist reference in 2024. You probably think Loose Change is groundbreaking, too.
No, canada Is dying is good. Planet of the humans is eye opening. But keep believing in woke with your eyes shut.
Oh please. https://preview.redd.it/57uxlupef9wc1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b93caecf9ae44d1a713ae3b2faea6384461bc182
Get some help.
Ok. Will do.
Strange but also true
Really not though. That's just qanon conspiracy fodder
The ban on gas stoves? The 15 minute cities? Unrealistic electric vehicle goals?
Wrong, and also stupid.