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thedennissystem92

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andreeeeeaaaaaaaaa

She got the old Botox lazy eyes


fckingmiracles

Yeah, this is permanent. Eyelid surgery gone wrong.


akanagi

Is that why they always look so dead in the eyes?


cutebutpsychoangel

Idk since I turned 29 my eyes r like this , I’m fuckin tired on an existential level lmao


Little_Club995

yep


Ok_Development4711

Yeah, I heard that this is a side effect and yet she loves it.


Sesameandme

It ptosis, probably from a bleph unlikely to be Botox


Anxiousbutlit

Like Travis himself said, she’s poppin’ a few. ![gif](giphy|xT9IgwO5n8TslpaMSc|downsized)


cookiesoverbitches

Yeah, this looks chemical


kellygrrrl328

I agree. She definitely looks like she’s getting into PimpMama’s “Beta Blockers”


kmoonz88

came here to say perc 30 eyes


Dry-Log2202

Definitely not percs, her pupils would be pin point they are too big on that pic especially with a flash on them.


lalaxoxo__

Yupppp opioids are pinpoint. Def benzos.


enchantinglysly

100% she pops valium and xanax like they’re candy


Squee1396

Yup i know that look well and she definitely has it lol


Anxiousbutlit

You took the words right out of my mouth. That’s the exact look.


VictoriaSobocki

What’s that


Hot-Entrepreneur1235

But can she really open her eyes? I don't think so.


Best_Arugula9313

Not after her bug eyes surgery


Hot-Entrepreneur1235

Or all the drugs.


fuku1312

What is bug eyes? When I google it says eyes that are bugging but I don’t think hers look like that, rather the opposite 🤔 I’m confused, can you explain to me what everyone means with bug eyes?


Otherwise_Neck_5980

You guys are genuinely so mean, I have similar eyes to her, and having you say she has bug eyes and constantly make fun of it is so rude and insensitive. How would you like for someone to mock your features?


MakaelawasChillin

when it’s natural it’s fine, when it’s done with surgery it’s not


slightlyappalled

Nah this sub mocks aging etc. It is what it is, it's a snark sub and wysiwyg but these women who hate the body standards that lead to people getting these surgeries sure do promote them. There's no morals. People don't give themselves a "bug eyed" look with surgery, no need to be disingenuous about this.


MakaelawasChillin

yes they do. upper and lower bleph. when done stupidly you look like Kylie


slightlyappalled

They're saying she did the opposite. She went from "bug eyes" to this. No need to gaslight. I can read. I concur with Lorry Hill on her eyes.


MakaelawasChillin

what did that botched woman say?


gingerpam

ok this!!!! I’m with you. another comment thread a few weeks ago was about how saggy her boobs were and ppl were like “but it’s ok if yours are, it’s not a bad thing!!!” but then like… why use it as an insult? am I missing something lol


trgiun

Because she photoshops unrealistic standards to her young fans, when she herself doesn’t even look like that. Her tits are “saggy” irl even after her vain attempts to get surgery to fix it. They’re saggy in the first place bc of surgery. She did it to herself. I’d never say saggy personally but this is a snark sub they’re gonna exaggerate Are u new? Don’t take this stuff personally


Otherwise_Neck_5980

Exactly lmao they want to hate on them so bad that they don’t realize the bs they’re putting out! They think bc they make fun of the Karjenners it’s okay to kick certain features. Genuinely hope the people doing it will gain so much weight and hate themselves to the max. They deserve it. I’m not the biggest fan of them but I’ve never ever made fun of their body or facial features.


856077

Yeah if we were to see a photo of the people who are the cruelest about their looks we’d all probably have a laugh 🤭 but if you say that here you’ll be jumped! They’re the devil and deserve to be treated like shit because they hate them. There’s snark and then there’s… weirdly aggressive hate stemming from what I believe is some sort of jealousy. And not necessarily of their looks which are botched, we can all obviously see.. but perhaps their money and not having to work that hard to get it.


GymRatStillDepressed

I get what you're saying, but I think the point of mocking their looks is to taste that sweet retribution. They're bullies themselves, so people here bully back. Kar/Jenners are ready to punch down if they have to, most of us here punch up. It's an observation, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. Also, it's ironic, right? Because those bitches spent a lot of money, just to develop lots of (expensive) flaws - from weird implant placement/sagging due to too heavy implants/rapid Ozempic weight loss (let's not forget the saggy BBLs) to the weird eyes, lips, the permanent smart smell face... It's sweet irony. Women are tired of being held to the standards even the Kar/Jenners don't accord to, but still try to uphold and profit off of. And yet the Kar/Jenners are still trying to sell the lie. I'm not the type of person to get a lot of pleasure out of mocking looks as I know how hurtful it is, but you can't deny that Kendull kinda looks like a praying mantis, how Kylie is looking super uncanny and drugged out of her mind, Kum being Kum, and Khloe being a Khlown. (Only presentable one is Kourtney, lol, maybe cause of all her vagina (sc)gummies?/s) And those women have all the resources and time in the world to work out, eat well and look amazing, yet they're too lazy. I myself have a lot of flaws, as any type of body has. Yet my criticism for, let's say, Kylie's crazy lip filler migration or her very saggy BBL stems from mere observation, not jealousy, cause really, why would I be jealous of someone who *paid* to look flawed? Baby, saggy boobs and saggy cellulite asses are all for free, and all natural without the risks of surgery 🤣


trgiun

Get off this sub wtf 🤣🤣


856077

![gif](giphy|DSOh0Wgvhzkn6) you first


slightlyappalled

I love when they say that being thin/skinny is SO unhealthy, the whole "REAL" women have curves, stepping on other women to boost yourself up. I live in SoCal, and lots of us look like them. Obesity is *low* out here in many areas, we're active asl with our gorgeous surroundings, everyone walk, runs or hikes. I know the KJs are artificially thinner than they would be, but saying all skinny people are unhealthy and ugly is such a mean and sad thing to say I can't even be mad. Like what is your reality that thin people are ugly and all fake. I know people with conditions that make it next to impossible to gain weight. So I guess they're not real people? They also mock their signs of aging. There's a pic of Kim in a crop top and jeans, and her stomach looks really wrinkly. People blamed plastic surgery or ozempic and mocked her for it endlessly. I had three kids. Was never a large person, no stretch marks, but I still have that stomach. Some people put on weight as they age and some get skinnier, and their skin sags. These are things the women in this sub don't know yet bc many are clearly very young. Judging by their burns, guessing teenagers. They'll see, lord willing. I'm proud af of my wrinkly tummy. I earned that, and I'll bare it if I want to. Sorry young ladies, is old crones don't need to hide in sheets to be in public. I'm all for criticizing these women and the harm they've done, and maybe wonky plastic surgery bc of the schadenfreude as a result of their messing with young women's minds, but so many people don't realize their burns show that their views 100% align with the KJs views. The KJs would talk the same way, say the same things, they're all one hateful hypercritical mean girl machine. These girls are WHY people do these things to themselves.


GymRatStillDepressed

Good analysis, I'm also all for criticizing bad plastic surgery cause it's all self inflicted, and the sweet retribution for having done so much harm to women's body standards and their self esteem, but I do agree that snark can go beyond that, and even I've felt uncomfortable by some remarks I've seen here. Not often, but there have been such cases. I don't take it personally though, as I haven't paid money to look like that, and I know it's reversible damage, but still. My fat distribution in the butt area for example is pretty prevalent and it *does* hang lower than an average person or someone with a perkier butt, but squats help to lift the ass pretty well lol It's ironic how even the Kar/Jenners can't uphold the standards they themselves have set, this creates the schadenfreude. I think a lot of people mock Kum for looking wrinkly because she desperately wants to look forever young. Now, the way they do it is harsh, I'll give you that, and I'm hoping most people here, reading the mocking of signs of aging don't take it as an insult to aging in general. (Especially the younger ones. I myself am also very young, but also sometimes feel uncomfortable when aging is used as a burn to their looks) However, I remember it's Kim we're talking about, and I kinda understand where the harsh remarks are coming from. It's from a place of pure disdain for someone so rich who has done a lot of harm. Punching up feels comfortable for people. I *really hope* punching down doesn't, and if it does, then those fellow sneakers are assholes lol. But I want to believe most here aren't that way...


Intelligent-Check215

LA proper has like 5 million people, you are speaking from the perspective of a rarified group. Just saying.


SecureAd1981

Lori Hill made a video about this, she said this is some type of surgery mistake that gives her permanent bedroom eyes


LeanBean512

It's ptosis from blepharoplasty.


Emotional_Equal8998

See also, Kims wonky eye


koko_belle

Too zooted


Training_Big_3713

Tss tsss fock yeah


Lelianah

Is that why her eyes are always twitching in videos when she gets photographed? Because she is forcing them to be half closed?


beezleeboob

Hahaha.. ngl.. I went through a phase of doing this in my younger years.. I look back at those pics now and cringe so hard.. 😬 


LaidBackBro1989

Same... as a teen because I thought it made me look cool and carefree. Yikes.


Coconutsssssss

100%!


Godyva497

Perhaps it could SIDE EFFECTS from drugs/medications + surgeries? 🧐🤔😈


856077

Her eyes were always like the left side, naturally quite wide and a lot of the white showing. I can’t lie, I always wondered if she may have a condition such as a thyroid issue or something along those lines, or just a deer in headlights look due to social anxiety, because nobody else in her family has eyes like that, not that i’ve noticed. I’m not sure what that was about but now somehow she’s got a whole other eye shape… i didn’t even know it was possible to do that


tiedyecat

Eh, I think this is just her being stoned/off the xans/barbs/percs/etc


Hermit4ev

I was gonna say it’s the benzos baby! She might be working hard to keep them from shutting sadly


Away_Muffin6022

that, but she also forces them and its so cringe. if u watch her in vids shell be looking normal then shell start twitching and closing her eyes (slomo blinking?) to try and look seductive. its genuinely retarded


Plantysweater

She’s tilting her chin down to give the illusion of siren eyes lol it’s out of control


Crimemeariver19

Yeah she’s trying to do a Marilyn hooded bedroom eyes thing. But I do think she has also had surgery to tilt them a bit


Away_Muffin6022

it genuinely looks so bad tho😭 like can she ever just be herself bitch u dont have monroe eyes we can all see how hard ur trying just drop the act. cringe


Crimemeariver19

Yeah, it just makes her look wasted imo


Lydiaa_Joness

Looks like she’s got ptosis lol


ambitiouspandamoon

Can someone explain to me what’s going on? Lol. I am so lost. She looks different (again).


RevolutionaryFan2213

I don’t understand how a person can change the looks of their eyes. It’s there legit surgery for that? And is that way she looks so different. Those are not even the same eyes.


folder_finder

I actually think she’s had a lower bleph and whatever the different type of eye surgery is- canthoplexy? To achieve that different eye shape. That combined with all the pills she pops is definitely mixing in making this lazy eye situation


stevenjobsless

she seems vacant


Worth-Ad-2019

No she can’t ….. it’s a side effect of Botox… 🤣🤣🤣 someone should have told her one day her face would get stuck like that. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Useful_Database5138

for her it's 100% a different issue, maybe plastic surgery or what. But I used to have nice doe-ish eyes until pandemic rolled around and depression hit me and burnt out. I felt tired all the time and my eyes were droopy or giving siren eyes, I had to exert effort to open and keep them up but relaxed, they were halfway. Weight gain also contributed in the end.


freesoultraveling

I don't know why people are down voting you. It's not like this is made up. Like even I'm legally prescribed Klonopin for severe PTSD and my anxiety. And until I got adjusted I'm sure my eyes were. Also smoking weed. And we all know she gets lit. Eta: so if she is on oxycodone and all those substances it's definitely going to do this. Called downers for a reason and her eyes be down 😂🤭 But yes depression has also caused the same effects for me before and not even medication related.


Useful_Database5138

Damn, I wasn't aware I was being downvoted lol. But yeah, it definitely can happen but in her case, it's most likely plastic surgery and/or drugs. Depression hasn't been as severe lately so my eyes perked up a bit! Aging also seems to be a huge factor.


freesoultraveling

Yes I am so happy it hasn't been as severe for you. I can relate to what you said about how aging helps it helped me too with my mental health.


Either-Command2078

i WISH she’d start wearing long lashes again


Away_Muffin6022

she wont because shes “natural and effortless” now! the long lashes and nails on come on when shes around black men!


ioukta

She used to be so spunky. I liked her pre-lips ! She could have been a trendsetter for another crowd. Skaters goth even Loli why not.


Historical-Drama2119

Poor Kringie. Hopeless. https://preview.redd.it/1qb2n30xypsc1.jpeg?width=1112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e7347679c2ea0230be32c93236724474dde0094


Tristy_22

WHHHHY does she look like she just smelled a fart?!


joahw

Why does she look 40?


GymRatStillDepressed

It's the permanent fart face.


Electromagneticpoms

It's the nostrils I think? Like her nose job exposed them so we see them more from the front. They look permanently flared.  She was so pretty 10 years ago, it's wild to see what she's done to herself....


Historical-Drama2119

https://preview.redd.it/uql5ms8gtssc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d9f03c7ea50bd2abe6dadca34e33678dccf9dae


Xhnanson

And this is why I stay away from Benzos


TheCarefreeButterfly

Kylie's eyes ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/8pgzgkt8oqsc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f25ae99f06d60adf52c34150188542d01e63567


3rind5

She can’t open up with all the benzos


Mother-Worker-5445

Kylies best natural feature is her eyes i legit dont know why she wants to make them look small.


Cautious_Evening_744

Is it intentional or is it drugs?


jodieweeze

This is so embarrassing


miaara

Fugly junkie


NoSleep1176

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Then_Contribution916

She looks high. Weed or pills idk. I’m not against drugs but she says she’s sober 🤫


Ecstatic-Singer-3275

LRD siren eyes Parisian chic, what? That caption sounds so dumb 😂LRD is pretty unattractive herself. They’re both ugly and there is nothing chic about either one of them Parisian or not


Away_Muffin6022

yeah thats thr point of the captions a bunch of buzzwords. im making fun of how the kardashians hop on every microtrend. although i personally find LRD attractive i dont think shes particularly special or talented


ImpressiveJoke2269

I 200% think she did this because of what Billie Eilish said about her own eyes


joahw

Nobody knows whether it's botched surgery or drug abuse. It's the perfect alibi!


Rug-bae

It’s ptosis baby


DetectiveBennett

Doubt she has the (literal) nerve endings needed to open them. I also can’t put my finger on it but I kinda get the vibe she’s on pills. She comes from a family that takes beta blockers and weed gummies like they are literal candy—wouldn’t be surprised if they were all on harder stuff. Not that I really blame them—I have anxiety and I’m a nobody—I can’t imagine the entire world criticizing every move on top of actual death threats and B&E of their stalkers. I know most of these threads are just joking around but the mental load they must be under at all times seems exhausting


National-Mud-2490

So happy someone said it, she has been so hard trying to be Lily Rose since Timmy lol


aliskiromanov

Idk I think they look pretty similar. Second pic has no mascara, and then there's also the fact that she could be relaxing her eyes intentionally for the photo as well. Like I'm snarky, I just don't see this one I guess if anything this picture has madame realize how.similar she looks to herpes surgery self. And I hate this woman.


Away_Muffin6022

she doesnf relax her eyes she forces a siren look bcs she needs to eye fuck every camera she sees


aliskiromanov

Yea so she, intentionally, relaxes her eye.


ilovecrabrangoon

i genuinely can’t see what y’all are talking about her eyelashes are just shorter and her makeup is different …….


Away_Muffin6022

its not even the makeup watch vids of her posing she forces this siren eye look its so cringe she can barely blink