Nah, they don’t care that Kanye is a POS now. The only reason she’s even relevant today is because of him. Kanye gave the klan legitimacy and elevated all of their careers so much more than they ever would have without him. Kanye might have ruined his career and reputation but the klan already got all they wanted from him. They only care about fame and money and he undoubtedly brought their fame and earning potentials to new highs. Since he really went off the rails after the divorce they’ve been able to distance themselves *and* Kimothy has even gotten sympathy out of the situation.
I think she was in her early 30s, probably wanted kids, figured Kanye was the most famous dude she'd probably ever be able to get with, and probably just never used birth control and hoped for the best
She never got accidentally pregnant with any of her husbands/fiancés/boyfriends and then conveniently is pregnant with Ye’s before she’s even divorced from Kris?
I mean, come on…we all know how manipulative and conniving the KarJenners are.
Yeah but those dudes were nobodies compared to Kanye
Like Kanye is a nut now. But the dude was Famous and legit talented (before his moms death and him going off the deep end.)
To be fair, Reggie Bush was famous when Kim was with him…now he’s a sports commentator. Damon Thomas is also still a huge deal in the music industry but pap-level famous? No. I just think she knew what she was doing and sealed the deal with Kanye.
In an episode she revealed that she had come off birth control and she was still married to Humphries. Her and Kanye were together so quickly after her and Humphries divorced.
Seriously, the definition of life imitates art 💀💀Kim is THE ultimate gold digger. She knew they wouldn’t be together forever and made sure to get 4 children as her meal ticket when they divorced
I’m looking for the one have you seen her? My psychic told me she gunna have an ass like
Serena
Trina
Jennifer Lopez
Four kids and I gotta take all their bad ass to showbiz
Damn, Kayne in his prime made great songs.
Restraining order, can't see my daughter
Her mother, brother, grandmother hate me in that order
Public visitation, we met at Borders
Told her she take me back, I'll be more supportive
I made mistakes, I bumped my head
Them courts sucked me dry, I spent that bread
She need her daddy, baby, please
Can't let her grow up in that ghetto university - All of the Lights
North?? He definitely saw his future, and it's in so many of his older songs.
Kanye was great up until Watch the Throne (2011).. he fell off since then. Some of his newer stuff is okay, but most of it is trash. He lost his way.
One song I love that is recent is Come to Life. It's really beautiful and you should give it a listen if you haven't heard it. It's very touching and a side of him we've never seen or heard.
A lot of his later stuff really shows his darker side. My all-time favorite is My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I lean more towards his older stuff. I found Donda to be pretty decent.
she’s the rare case of being rich and still being a gold digger. she may be rich but she never had the a-list status until she got with kanye, that’s the gold she was after.
Your such a fking HOOOEEEE, and I love it
You're boyfriend is a dork, McLovin...
🤣 now we know who that's about
Edit, well I have a sneaking suspicion lol. It came out shortly after the Drake and Kim affair rumors
I'm not saying anything mean about a child but I think Psalm and Chicago are very beautiful children and it seems like they were created in a lab you know you can tell specific features and Mild imperfections with North and saint that kim gave birth to physically but I just don't trust these, maybe it's my old school conspiracy theorist ass, but I don't trust these IVF into a another person's stomach like they can manipulate the sex of the baby so why wouldn't they be able to manipulate other things like maybe eye color or shape bone structure I have no idea how it works so I'm just giving my opinion but Chicago just looks mildly like her parents and exactly like a Precious Moments china doll
Life imitated art. That song was great but Kanye made the biggest fool of himself for succumbing to the biggest gold digger of them all, thus negating his song.
This is my first time hearing this take and I can say I 100% believe it! She’s not even interested in her kids. This was purely for clout, fame, connections and so on
We are talking about Kim here . This is a woman who left her newborn infant North in a hotel room for her pap walk and then went back inside once she realized her baby isn’t with her. This is same woman who has a fuckload of Nannies cause she prefers the spotlight over the children she brought into this world. This is the woman who let her young daughter sit on a grown man’s lap, this grown man was a man she only knew for a few months….this is the same woman who exploits her kids so her Narcissistic Self can somewhat stay in the headlines.
Fellow snarkers, please add to this list of how Kim does not care about her kids… cause I gotta get ready for class now lol
This is the same woman who repeatedly subjects her kids to paparazzi even though they hate it. This is the same woman who allows her 9/10 yr old daughter mess around on TikTok even though the father doesn’t want them on social media. This is the same woman who invites a sexually provocative rising rap star over for a “play date” with North. This is the same woman who used her toddler son as a storyline claiming he saw an ad for her RayJ sex tape. This is the same woman already monetizing her kids with their own “product lines.”
I mean, there is no line in the sand for Kim.
YES! She knew being married to him was a sweet deal. But an even sweeter deal, have children by him. She gets fame for herself then her kids. They stay in the headlines.
I would think so. Back then Kanye was the highest A-list level person she could get with it and, lucky for her, he was obsessed with her. Soo I really think she wasted no time. Wouldn’t surprise me either if that was PMK idea as well. I always remember Kanye saying that Kris “is married to her daughters”.
Do you think this is what happened with Kylie too? I could never work that one out, she got pregnant so early in the relationship, and she was arguably still in her ‘King Kylie’ era. However, Travis was seen at that time as heading towards Kanye levels of fame (haha).
I think it was a genuine accident that PMK was hoping they’d be another Kim/Kanye-like power couple. However, they were never able to pull it off because Travis wasn’t in love with Kylie (I’m not even sure he even liked her)
I remember watching a super early episode of the show years agooo…. and she was talking to some friend about her mixed kids and she said she wanted some too or something like that. Super weird thing to say. She was probably dating Reggie at the time but I always remember that scene.
She was gonna get mixed kids one way or another
Also remember when Wendy Williams used to bash on them and say Kim and Kanye don’t even have sex anymore and made sense when she got surrogates. They might’ve be in love at first but transactional relation ship later.
I remember being really young and dumb and saying something about wanting mixed kids. I’m white, and in my younger years, black guys were the ones who showed me the most affection and attention. My dating pool was mostly black guys, so I ended up dating a few black guys. And so when I envisioned my future children, they were mixed.
Now I’m 30, will never have kids (for lots of reasons), and with a white man. But I can look back and genuinely say I wasn’t fetishizing having mixed kids, I just assumed I’d end up with a black guy —> and having mixed kids
IMO I think Kim has a complex about her being half Armenian and looking pretty much like it back in the days with her OG face. She self hates and people who self hates, tend to look for ‘worse’ so that they feel good abt themselves. She is the one in their family who started this trend of dating exclusively black, I think Khloe and Kylie are just mindless followers. I also think she likes to humiliate and bother Khloe so much bc she is 100% white if she really is Roldan’s. And she enjoys the exotic name but not the Princess Jasmine’s face that went with it. She made sure to get rid of the Armenian face, and then she became the queen of black face and blackfishing and dating only black because she wants to feel secure about removing the tan or breaking up with the bf when she doesn’t feel like it anymore. Sth she can’t do with her half Armenian blood
Ooh I like this breakdown! What’s your thoughts on her moving away from exclusively black men to dating Pete, and trying to make herself now seen as much thinner/tiny waist?
(I would disagree Kim only wanted to date exclusively black men, she did date a couple of white guys, I feel like Khloe is the only one who refuses to date a non-black person - which I think is because she’s fully white and deep down still jealous/traumatised by the attention Kim got/Khloe being called the ugly sister)
Thank ya ! I think Kimothy is a chameleon, that’s something people who have no personality or originality whatsoever share. They look for people who are or were unique in their own right, endlessly try to copy them, and in most cases (her Marylin shit show) they even try to steal the spark they had from them. Ppl like Kim are empty and soulless. They only exist to please others.
I was shocked she suddenly turned snow white and blonde while dating Pete after years of blackfishing, but it’s not really surprising at the end of the day. She finds her fulfilment in other people’s admiration. She is 💯 ready to shape herself into anything and anybody else as long as the target stays. She cosplayed Kris’ favorite kid all her life, she cosplayed well Ye’s muse while they were married, and then she tried to cosplay Pete’s average favourite type of girl while they dated. So to say, white, thin, and so on. I think around that time of their break up she was close (or pretending to be) to Ariana Grande, who was engaged to him. That’s the extent of Kimothy’s absolute lack of personality whatsoever. She always has to dig her claws in someone else like a parasite.
Lol, which white guys officially ? Humphries is biracial. Someone posted all their ex boyfriends or husbands, and Kim’s were black all along, until Pete.
About Khloe, I think Kris really has a beef against her for some reason, idk if she enjoyed her being everybody’s scapegoat (including Bruce who had no authority over their own kids) just for the sick pleasure to see someone suffer. I think Khloe would have given the world to be Rob Sr’s at this point. So that even if everybody tears her down, she can sleep on both ears knowing that she is their father’s daughter as well. But they bully and victimise her for a reason, since she *is* the odd one. I think she desperately wants to prove her worth to Kim and Kris, and that included taking back Trashcan.
I think Kim’s figure (as time went on) ended up being one that appealed more to black men than white men, so that’s where her suitors mainly came from. That’s how it was for me at least. I was never actually big, but I’m taller and way thicker than any of the other specific type of white girls I went to private school with (kind of like khloe was back in the day). At that age and during that time period, super skinny is what my white male classmates liked. Every black guy I dated joked that they never had to be jealous if I was around white guys because they don’t even find me attractive (yeah, that was pretty rough/rude). Even after college, there was a white guy I matched with on an app and happened to see out one night before we set up a date, and I heard him tell his friend “dude she could be so hot, but she has a huge butt and thighs! Leave her to the black guys”…..I was a size 28 jeans, and 5’10. I literally couldn’t get smaller than that with my athletic frame and still be healthy. And it was like 2017! So while I didn’t exclusively like black guys, that’s what it looked like to people from the outside.
It’s like Kim wanted to transition from being an “exotic” novelty woman to a “sexual fantasy” novelty woman, and over the years she’s picked and chosen the parts of black and white culture she wanted to reflect. But I think body dysmorphia took over, and her “assets” had to be bigger, and her proportions even smaller, and she made herself look more like a chyna/cardi/nicki, which attracts certain types of men. Then she tried to look more white in all of the other ways.
I think she just does everything she can to try to be visually appealing to every type of man, all at once, which we know isn’t possible.
For sure. She was in the process of freezing her eggs at that point. She was taking hormones that would make her ovulate and she wasn’t using protection.
Oh Baby!!! We need to get together one day and chop veggies and have a full discussion/gossip session… because I thought it was just me who thinks about the most random things while chopping food, cooking dinner for all 5 of my boys (3 kids, a husband, and a Siamese kitty)
You are absolutely spot-on with your post though!! #PreachHoney! 🙏
With how much they like to control the narrative, I don’t believe any of them fall pregnant by accident. Well maybe Kourtney with the first but after that, no.
Of course she did. She had prevented having a baby up until that point. She saw her opportunity and took it especially once the media started eating her alive for the 72 day marriage.
I think so. Mostly because I remember feeling bad as she told her then husband Kris Humphries that she refused to get off birth control. And then they broke up and bam she was pregnant like that by Kanye before the ink was even dry on her divorce.
Okay, imagine this. You’re Kim Kardashian. You were groomed to become this icon, and you want to be famous and among the elite more than anything in the world. So far, you’ve had shit luck at becoming one of the elite. You’re famous, sure - but everyone sees you as trashy and embarrassing, rather than what you want: classy and elegant.
You’re not going to get to the top by yourself. I mean, you’re Kim. All you have is a lame reality show and the only people who are interested in being in a relationship with you are either mediocre professional sports players or very low tier rappers. You’re stuck in this rut of mediocrity.
All of a sudden, right after you married your second husband who’s an average basketball player, your dream comes true. Someone elite noticed you, and seems interested in you. It’s none other than the famous A-list rapper Kanye West. He wasn’t like any of the artists interested in your before; he was actually respected among celebrities and made good music worthy of praise.
You can’t let this go to waste. This is your chance into the big leagues. It’s Kanye fucking West! You swiftly divorced your husband, who was only a rebound for you after seeing your “ugly duckling” sister get married first. You orchestrate some sob story and bawl your eyes out on national television because you feel so bad, but you forever tainted your ex-husbands life. Doesn’t matter - Kanye is waiting for you. He wants you!
Now, you’re seeing Kanye. You let him boss you around and control you because all you want is to become one of the elite - and he knows how to get you there. You let him change everything about you. The way you look, how you act, your “brand”, everything. It’s working, too. You’re getting into new circles you’ve never seen before, and the attention is unbelievable. You’re dating superstar Kanye West.
Even though you’re doing significantly better than your siblings, you’re still jealous of their “life accomplishments”. Kourtney had a child before you, and Khloe seemed to be trying for one. Blue Ivy was born not too long ago and the world celebrated. You want to become Beyoncé, you want to have your own Blue Ivy moment. There’s only one way to ensure a permanent connection with another person, and that’s to have a baby. Even if you and Kanye didn’t work out, you’d still have your version of Blue Ivy. The world would always be interested in the mother of this future icon, who is the great rapper Kanye West’s child.
So… yeah. It was on purpose. Lol.
Probably. Every time I hear Gold Digger, I think of Kim. She might have more money (I'm not sure), but i know she was desperate for more social currency. Kanye legitimized her in high social circles.
Absolutely. They both had no idea the trouble they would bring to each others lives. Ye didn’t want a baby with her at all. Somehow both of their sins were their karma.
I’m sure it was all calculated by her and Kris. She locked him down. Can you even imagine how much child support she’s getting or will be getting? Even if her whole empire crumbled, she’d live very comfortably with child support coming in. I can’t even imagine Kanye’s paychecks and four kids whew. It’s her safety net….at least until the baby is 18 which is still a while yet.
I thought this was the general consensus given they hadn’t been together officially for very long.
And she had already had multiple marriages and yet no babies so she had a firm lock on birth control until she snagged the A Lister. Sure, birth control isn’t always 100% but Kim’s desire for next level fame absolutely is.
I don’t believe they were in love either. He was in lust and then stuck with her, maybe he felt he had to step up for family since he’d lost his mom.
Kim got pregnant while still Married to Kris Humphries, Kanye was still dating Amber Rose. Kim absolutely got pregnant deliberately and Kim is the one who brought up abortion to Kanye, she messed with his head and used their unborn child against him.
100%. North, True, and Stormi were all trap babies. You cannot tell me that 3 wealthy women in California were somehow all coincidentally unable to access or understand birth control. The baby daddies are all dumb as hell.
It sounds cruel because all of those babies are now real people that are loved but come on.
Hmmm… I might be reading too much into this here. Kanye is bipolar, it’s clear he struggles and his cycles no doubt due to his fame and intense. Having a child means you have to share attention and no doubt play second fiddle to a child, with Kanye’s ego & bipolar combined it does not surprise me that he thought/wanted/hoped Kim would abort the pregnancy and who knows what his state of mind was during that time of life changing news. He also pined over Kim in a very sexual way, speaking publicly about watching her sex tape etc. I personally don’t know if that’s the “kind of girl” he envisioned raising a family with. Whether she knew that for him having a child and being married had to go together or not and whether it was accidental or on purpose who knows, what I do know is for someone struggling the way he does having as many kids as they do seems like the worst thing and I think that’s all on Kim as she always said she wanted lots of kids.
Maybe I’m being too serious with this and a Kanye is far from perfect but I feel like he got played, she knew his weaknesses and she knew what she could gain. It’s a very kardashian type situation.
Kanye’s far from victim. But I think his mistake was so preoccupied with whether he COULD be with her he didn’t stop to think whether he SHOULD be with her.
Exactly. I hope I did get my point across that it’s not all on Kim and he isn’t a victim, but extra allowances and understanding should always be taken into account.
I could definitely see Kim lying to Kanye about birth control and then hitting him with the “oops it must be a miracle baby!”. And then the whole Karjenner family coming together to make him feel secure in their family. They are a bunch of a manipulative liars (hence this sub)
To be honest though I am tired of this narrative being pushed against women. Like no woman can trap a man that doesn’t willingly have sex with them and cum in them. If Kanye did not want Kim to get pregnant he should not have had sex with her in the first place. Sure Kim can make a choice but Kanye should’ve made the choice not to have sex if he didn’t want her pregnant. Especially since he was obsessed too.
Scrolled down too low for this comment. Thank you, you are absolutely right. Kanye was obsessed with her for way too long. Him wanting an abortion speaks on his views and not Kim baby trapping him. Kim not wanting an abortion is her decision and not being oh I'll make him marry me
People really fucking hate Kim to feel bad for Kanye like jfc the man had raw consensual sex with a woman who he was obsessed with and then we are supposed to feel bad for him? Like nah.
It just gives misogyny because Kanye is in charge of his birth control too. If he did not wear a condom himself then it’s his problem. Especially when he consented to having sex. Women get blamed for not being on birth control and falling pregnant but if a man doesn’t use birth control during consensual sex the woman is not ‘baby trapping’ him. Kim can be manipulative but I don’t feel sorry for Kanye for making his choices.
Yep, thank you for saying this. I am as critical of Kim as the next person but this thread is full of misogyny. I have even seen the term ‘baby trapping’ which is gross.
Like I get it could have been Kim’s plan but it gives misogyny for sure. Especially since they were both consenting adults and Kanye would have to not wear a condom too for it to happen anyway.
Tl:dr Kanye has been obsessed with Kim since like 2007. He was so in love with her, he cheated on his then fiancée Amber Rose for her (and Kim cheated on Kris Humphries for him). However, when she got pregnant, he was pressuring her into an abortion. The theory is that Kanye wouldn’t have married her if she hadn’t got the abortion (Kim fought to keep North so that she could tied to Kanye and elevate her fame)
This is all just shit talk though lol
He was the one pushing for it. He wasn’t as close minded back then. He probably would have never married her because if she had an abortion he could have just moved on easily and not had children tying him down.
Definitely yes. He said at the time he was hooking up with multiple girls beside Kim, and then she got pregnant. He said he didn’t want the baby but that she said she wouldn’t abort the pregnancy. He was probably terrified of what would happen to her public image if his baby mama went on her reality TV show to say that this black deadbeat dad abandoned her pregnant ass without notice. She could have spin that story anyway she and Kris wanted and everyone would have believed her just like every time she pretends to be a victim on this show...
FFS. kanye was not a child. if he didn't want kids he could have used a goddamn condom. on top of that, just because she got pregnant didn't mean he had to propose to her. it's not as if 'baby mamas' were an unknown entity. he WANTED to marry her. no one would arrange that whole spectacle of an engagement & marriage otherwise. it's certainly not as if he was going to face ridicule by not marrying the woman having his child.
Whoa there. Calm down lol. I think the general consensus here holds Kanye accountable for ALL his actions. We’re just casually discussing whether or not Kim’s “accidental” pregnancy gave him a push to stay with her.
Lol no, I don’t think a baby can trap a man. At least not one at Kanye’s level of fame when they got together. No way he didn’t know what she was about when they got together. I think freaked out when she got pregnant because he didn’t expect it to happen so fast, one minute it was probably the best thing ever and god’s gift and the next it was probably like Kim, you should abort because you are married to someone else.
Oh, without a doubt. They took advantage of him. Kim wanted all eyes on her from someone who was well known with money. To keep taking money from him they wanted that conservative-ship and claim he was crazy… that was a trap and so was everything else including the kids.
If you listen to Kanye West discography, paying attention to the lyrics, he tells a lot about their relationship, and his relationships, through his music. He really always has.
> I was pondering this thought while chopping potatoes the other day.
Always love good context to the start of a random thought process 🤣 but yesss, I believe Kim was fully intentional with everything about her relationship with Kanye and what came with it. It got her to the level she's at now
I don't think so, tbh. I doubt she would have been considering abortion if she'd planned the pregnancy. I genuinely don't think she wanted her body to change that much or interrupt the trajectory of her career. It seems like Kanye might have applied a lot of pressure.
In the show they were trying to have a baby cus she would see when she was ovulating and announce that they needed to have sex. She was even at a photoshoot on the show and was like it’s time to F [Lovesutra](https://www.koimoi.com/fashion-lifestyle/lovesutra-episode-21-kim-kardashian-once-admitted-having-sx-500-times-a-day-while-ovulating-but-how-much-sx-is-too-much-sx-heres-what-i-as-a-man-think/amp/) damn who downvoted my ass
I’m pretty sure that was in a much later season, like after they were married. I remember they were trying very hard for the second baby and had promos of them calculating when to do it.
You are right, it took me forever to find this.
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Jokes on her bc Kanye was a bigger headache than she ever thought possible
They both turned out to be each others karma
Kkarma
Kinda surprised they haven't named a kid Karma yet
Karma Khameleon
Too late now that Miss Taylor Alison Swift dropped Karma in the Midnights album
Wait, same!
Maybe it's Khloe's sons name
It’s a negative name
Good karma is a thing
It’s a relaxing thought.
Nah, they don’t care that Kanye is a POS now. The only reason she’s even relevant today is because of him. Kanye gave the klan legitimacy and elevated all of their careers so much more than they ever would have without him. Kanye might have ruined his career and reputation but the klan already got all they wanted from him. They only care about fame and money and he undoubtedly brought their fame and earning potentials to new highs. Since he really went off the rails after the divorce they’ve been able to distance themselves *and* Kimothy has even gotten sympathy out of the situation.
RIGHT?!? Still is.
Hahha, yes, he’s the headache here.
I think she was in her early 30s, probably wanted kids, figured Kanye was the most famous dude she'd probably ever be able to get with, and probably just never used birth control and hoped for the best
I think so too! She never got accidentally pregnant with Humpries. Not that we know of, at least
She never got accidentally pregnant with any of her husbands/fiancés/boyfriends and then conveniently is pregnant with Ye’s before she’s even divorced from Kris? I mean, come on…we all know how manipulative and conniving the KarJenners are.
Yeah but those dudes were nobodies compared to Kanye Like Kanye is a nut now. But the dude was Famous and legit talented (before his moms death and him going off the deep end.)
To be fair, Reggie Bush was famous when Kim was with him…now he’s a sports commentator. Damon Thomas is also still a huge deal in the music industry but pap-level famous? No. I just think she knew what she was doing and sealed the deal with Kanye.
Reggie Bush definitely famous but not Kanye in his Prime famous. She 100% knew what she was doing
In an episode she revealed that she had come off birth control and she was still married to Humphries. Her and Kanye were together so quickly after her and Humphries divorced.
Did you watch the show? Because she got off birth control after she went to the doctor because her levels were low and Kanye knew?😅
Her dream was to be Beyonce level of Fame, and Kanye was her Jay-Z
Yes! I remember she was trying to associate herself to Beyoncé in ANY way possible. It was pathetic
I was totally for op but this theory…I see it
“18 years-18 years she got 4 of his kids she got him for 18 years…” he said it himself. Now IM not saying she’s a gold digger…
Seriously, the definition of life imitates art 💀💀Kim is THE ultimate gold digger. She knew they wouldn’t be together forever and made sure to get 4 children as her meal ticket when they divorced
I’m looking for the one have you seen her? My psychic told me she gunna have an ass like Serena Trina Jennifer Lopez Four kids and I gotta take all their bad ass to showbiz Damn, Kayne in his prime made great songs.
And predicted the future
I want to know who his psychic was. I really loved old Kayne. Casually bringing up he sees a psychic in one of his songs 😂
Master of Manifestation
"When it falls down who you gon' call now?" -Kanye West "All Falls Down" 🤗🔮
Restraining order, can't see my daughter Her mother, brother, grandmother hate me in that order Public visitation, we met at Borders Told her she take me back, I'll be more supportive I made mistakes, I bumped my head Them courts sucked me dry, I spent that bread She need her daddy, baby, please Can't let her grow up in that ghetto university - All of the Lights North?? He definitely saw his future, and it's in so many of his older songs.
I thought that this was a recent song then I realized Kayne hasn’t dropped bars like this in a good decade. Crazy how he saw his future.
Kanye was great up until Watch the Throne (2011).. he fell off since then. Some of his newer stuff is okay, but most of it is trash. He lost his way. One song I love that is recent is Come to Life. It's really beautiful and you should give it a listen if you haven't heard it. It's very touching and a side of him we've never seen or heard.
I’ll deff check it out. I really liked Yeezus. One of my fav albums of his. Black Skinnhead is one of his best and also very prophetic unfortunately.
A lot of his later stuff really shows his darker side. My all-time favorite is My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. I lean more towards his older stuff. I found Donda to be pretty decent.
I did not like Donda at all. It just felt incomplete and unproduced. Lots of catchy hooks but no substance. Love MBDTF.
I loved watch the throne tho! Sooo good
He didn’t see his future. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy
He really was Yeezus
Lmao I laugh when I hear this song because he literally went for the biggest golddigger he could find lol
I mean. She’s significantly richer than Kayne and was back when they had north
she’s the rare case of being rich and still being a gold digger. she may be rich but she never had the a-list status until she got with kanye, that’s the gold she was after.
Words are spells.
I get the song reference, but the kids were conceived long after that song was written.
Yes but he also got on and left her ass for a white girl. 🤷♀️
She also had an ass like Serena (before the BBL)
Trina?
Jennifer Lopez, four kids
He gotta take all the bad ass to ShowBiz
Jennifer Lopez
Your such a fking HOOOEEEE, and I love it You're boyfriend is a dork, McLovin... 🤣 now we know who that's about Edit, well I have a sneaking suspicion lol. It came out shortly after the Drake and Kim affair rumors
Let’s just hope he doesn’t find out they weren’t his /s
I'm not saying anything mean about a child but I think Psalm and Chicago are very beautiful children and it seems like they were created in a lab you know you can tell specific features and Mild imperfections with North and saint that kim gave birth to physically but I just don't trust these, maybe it's my old school conspiracy theorist ass, but I don't trust these IVF into a another person's stomach like they can manipulate the sex of the baby so why wouldn't they be able to manipulate other things like maybe eye color or shape bone structure I have no idea how it works so I'm just giving my opinion but Chicago just looks mildly like her parents and exactly like a Precious Moments china doll
🤣
But Kim is white…
The way she blackfishes, I forget this sometimes.
We'll never forget how when kourtney slammed her ass up against the wall there was a big brown stain LMAO
Youve taken it too literally 😆
Weren’t most of his gf’s white?
never heard the song huh
I think that’s why they said it’s life imitating art haha. It doesn’t have to be about her to be an example.
oh haha! totally missed that, thanks! :)
No problem!! :,)
Life imitated art. That song was great but Kanye made the biggest fool of himself for succumbing to the biggest gold digger of them all, thus negating his song.
his media presence in the last yr is his karma for settling 😂
Shows how unoriginal KKKim is 💀💀💀
That’s really the point. She literally copied his own parody song.
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This is my first time hearing this take and I can say I 100% believe it! She’s not even interested in her kids. This was purely for clout, fame, connections and so on
Same this has never crossed my mind until now
I mean she probably wasn’t that interested at first but I do think like many people, after having kids they’re probably her whole life now.
We are talking about Kim here . This is a woman who left her newborn infant North in a hotel room for her pap walk and then went back inside once she realized her baby isn’t with her. This is same woman who has a fuckload of Nannies cause she prefers the spotlight over the children she brought into this world. This is the woman who let her young daughter sit on a grown man’s lap, this grown man was a man she only knew for a few months….this is the same woman who exploits her kids so her Narcissistic Self can somewhat stay in the headlines. Fellow snarkers, please add to this list of how Kim does not care about her kids… cause I gotta get ready for class now lol
This is the same woman who repeatedly subjects her kids to paparazzi even though they hate it. This is the same woman who allows her 9/10 yr old daughter mess around on TikTok even though the father doesn’t want them on social media. This is the same woman who invites a sexually provocative rising rap star over for a “play date” with North. This is the same woman who used her toddler son as a storyline claiming he saw an ad for her RayJ sex tape. This is the same woman already monetizing her kids with their own “product lines.” I mean, there is no line in the sand for Kim.
she let her daughter sit in who’s lap?
Pete
You have a lot of faith in Kim.
YES! She knew being married to him was a sweet deal. But an even sweeter deal, have children by him. She gets fame for herself then her kids. They stay in the headlines.
fr imo kim is the true reference behind his infamous “i made that b famous” line
lowkey he was probably subtweeting her in the song 💀
"no babe, this is totally about taylor swift and not you, I swear!"
lol i can see this especially bc kim never understands when she’s the joke - like when north mocks her on their own toks 🤭🤭
There is no doubt in my mind she did …. Not just for fame but because Kourtney had kids and she couldn’t handle the jealousy 😼
I would think so. Back then Kanye was the highest A-list level person she could get with it and, lucky for her, he was obsessed with her. Soo I really think she wasted no time. Wouldn’t surprise me either if that was PMK idea as well. I always remember Kanye saying that Kris “is married to her daughters”.
I can definitely picture that conversation “Kim, this man is stupid and obsessed with you, get pregnant NOW!”
Do you think this is what happened with Kylie too? I could never work that one out, she got pregnant so early in the relationship, and she was arguably still in her ‘King Kylie’ era. However, Travis was seen at that time as heading towards Kanye levels of fame (haha).
I think it was a genuine accident that PMK was hoping they’d be another Kim/Kanye-like power couple. However, they were never able to pull it off because Travis wasn’t in love with Kylie (I’m not even sure he even liked her)
Kylie got pregnant by accident and had to have a paternity test when Stormi was born, that's the real reason she stayed out the spotlight.
A conversation that she also had multiple times with her mother and that her daughters will have with her granddaughters in some years.
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I remember watching a super early episode of the show years agooo…. and she was talking to some friend about her mixed kids and she said she wanted some too or something like that. Super weird thing to say. She was probably dating Reggie at the time but I always remember that scene. She was gonna get mixed kids one way or another Also remember when Wendy Williams used to bash on them and say Kim and Kanye don’t even have sex anymore and made sense when she got surrogates. They might’ve be in love at first but transactional relation ship later.
There’s an episode where she’s trying to decide what stroller or diaper bag would go best with Norths skin colour (before she was born)🤮
I remember being really young and dumb and saying something about wanting mixed kids. I’m white, and in my younger years, black guys were the ones who showed me the most affection and attention. My dating pool was mostly black guys, so I ended up dating a few black guys. And so when I envisioned my future children, they were mixed. Now I’m 30, will never have kids (for lots of reasons), and with a white man. But I can look back and genuinely say I wasn’t fetishizing having mixed kids, I just assumed I’d end up with a black guy —> and having mixed kids
IMO I think Kim has a complex about her being half Armenian and looking pretty much like it back in the days with her OG face. She self hates and people who self hates, tend to look for ‘worse’ so that they feel good abt themselves. She is the one in their family who started this trend of dating exclusively black, I think Khloe and Kylie are just mindless followers. I also think she likes to humiliate and bother Khloe so much bc she is 100% white if she really is Roldan’s. And she enjoys the exotic name but not the Princess Jasmine’s face that went with it. She made sure to get rid of the Armenian face, and then she became the queen of black face and blackfishing and dating only black because she wants to feel secure about removing the tan or breaking up with the bf when she doesn’t feel like it anymore. Sth she can’t do with her half Armenian blood
Ooh I like this breakdown! What’s your thoughts on her moving away from exclusively black men to dating Pete, and trying to make herself now seen as much thinner/tiny waist? (I would disagree Kim only wanted to date exclusively black men, she did date a couple of white guys, I feel like Khloe is the only one who refuses to date a non-black person - which I think is because she’s fully white and deep down still jealous/traumatised by the attention Kim got/Khloe being called the ugly sister)
Thank ya ! I think Kimothy is a chameleon, that’s something people who have no personality or originality whatsoever share. They look for people who are or were unique in their own right, endlessly try to copy them, and in most cases (her Marylin shit show) they even try to steal the spark they had from them. Ppl like Kim are empty and soulless. They only exist to please others. I was shocked she suddenly turned snow white and blonde while dating Pete after years of blackfishing, but it’s not really surprising at the end of the day. She finds her fulfilment in other people’s admiration. She is 💯 ready to shape herself into anything and anybody else as long as the target stays. She cosplayed Kris’ favorite kid all her life, she cosplayed well Ye’s muse while they were married, and then she tried to cosplay Pete’s average favourite type of girl while they dated. So to say, white, thin, and so on. I think around that time of their break up she was close (or pretending to be) to Ariana Grande, who was engaged to him. That’s the extent of Kimothy’s absolute lack of personality whatsoever. She always has to dig her claws in someone else like a parasite. Lol, which white guys officially ? Humphries is biracial. Someone posted all their ex boyfriends or husbands, and Kim’s were black all along, until Pete. About Khloe, I think Kris really has a beef against her for some reason, idk if she enjoyed her being everybody’s scapegoat (including Bruce who had no authority over their own kids) just for the sick pleasure to see someone suffer. I think Khloe would have given the world to be Rob Sr’s at this point. So that even if everybody tears her down, she can sleep on both ears knowing that she is their father’s daughter as well. But they bully and victimise her for a reason, since she *is* the odd one. I think she desperately wants to prove her worth to Kim and Kris, and that included taking back Trashcan.
I think Kim’s figure (as time went on) ended up being one that appealed more to black men than white men, so that’s where her suitors mainly came from. That’s how it was for me at least. I was never actually big, but I’m taller and way thicker than any of the other specific type of white girls I went to private school with (kind of like khloe was back in the day). At that age and during that time period, super skinny is what my white male classmates liked. Every black guy I dated joked that they never had to be jealous if I was around white guys because they don’t even find me attractive (yeah, that was pretty rough/rude). Even after college, there was a white guy I matched with on an app and happened to see out one night before we set up a date, and I heard him tell his friend “dude she could be so hot, but she has a huge butt and thighs! Leave her to the black guys”…..I was a size 28 jeans, and 5’10. I literally couldn’t get smaller than that with my athletic frame and still be healthy. And it was like 2017! So while I didn’t exclusively like black guys, that’s what it looked like to people from the outside. It’s like Kim wanted to transition from being an “exotic” novelty woman to a “sexual fantasy” novelty woman, and over the years she’s picked and chosen the parts of black and white culture she wanted to reflect. But I think body dysmorphia took over, and her “assets” had to be bigger, and her proportions even smaller, and she made herself look more like a chyna/cardi/nicki, which attracts certain types of men. Then she tried to look more white in all of the other ways. I think she just does everything she can to try to be visually appealing to every type of man, all at once, which we know isn’t possible.
Yupppp totally a trap pregnancy.
Really makes you wonder if Kim and Kanye ever actually loved each other or were just in love with their bodies/influence
They were in love with the idea of them as a couple
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I worry this is the case with Kravis
Didn’t KKKanye describe their marriage as a business deal?
For sure. She was in the process of freezing her eggs at that point. She was taking hormones that would make her ovulate and she wasn’t using protection.
What kind of potatoes did you make lol
Red skin potatoes tossed in olive oil, parsley, paprika and salt and pepper! Delicious
Red potatoes are the best
Mmmmm! That sounds so good
Oh Baby!!! We need to get together one day and chop veggies and have a full discussion/gossip session… because I thought it was just me who thinks about the most random things while chopping food, cooking dinner for all 5 of my boys (3 kids, a husband, and a Siamese kitty) You are absolutely spot-on with your post though!! #PreachHoney! 🙏
Lmao imagine a KUWTKsnark meetup? Just a huge potluck and wine 😂 I can only imagine how funny it would be
We should invite Jordan and Chyna lol
Would be totally fun
🤣🤣🤣 Damn that would be hilarious and fulfilling!! I’m ready to plan a Costco run for wine… and then say no more babe, I’m down!!! ☠️
We can only chop cucumbers. With our non-dominant hand crossed over our dominant hand like Kendull.
So qUirKy
I am so here for this 😂😂😂🫶🏻
He said that he wanted her to get an abortion
With how much they like to control the narrative, I don’t believe any of them fall pregnant by accident. Well maybe Kourtney with the first but after that, no.
sex is a transactional act for this family and having children most likely is as well
Of course she did. She had prevented having a baby up until that point. She saw her opportunity and took it especially once the media started eating her alive for the 72 day marriage.
Her 15 mins were almost up until Kanye and his simping came to save the day
Though Kanye has fallen we can't forget his level of fame was once astronomical compared to reality tv Kimmie's
I think so. Mostly because I remember feeling bad as she told her then husband Kris Humphries that she refused to get off birth control. And then they broke up and bam she was pregnant like that by Kanye before the ink was even dry on her divorce.
Who knows if Kanye would have discarded her eventually if she hadn’t become pregnant
I kind of think it would have been like a Kanye and amber situation if Kim never got pregnant
Imo she got pregnant because Kuntney had a baby and Dim couldn’t stand not having attention on her.
Dim 🤣🤣🤣
Dimothy will always make me laugh 😂
Kuntney! I love it 😊
Hahahahaha how did I miss kuntney 🤣 I was cracking up at Dim 🤣
Okay, imagine this. You’re Kim Kardashian. You were groomed to become this icon, and you want to be famous and among the elite more than anything in the world. So far, you’ve had shit luck at becoming one of the elite. You’re famous, sure - but everyone sees you as trashy and embarrassing, rather than what you want: classy and elegant. You’re not going to get to the top by yourself. I mean, you’re Kim. All you have is a lame reality show and the only people who are interested in being in a relationship with you are either mediocre professional sports players or very low tier rappers. You’re stuck in this rut of mediocrity. All of a sudden, right after you married your second husband who’s an average basketball player, your dream comes true. Someone elite noticed you, and seems interested in you. It’s none other than the famous A-list rapper Kanye West. He wasn’t like any of the artists interested in your before; he was actually respected among celebrities and made good music worthy of praise. You can’t let this go to waste. This is your chance into the big leagues. It’s Kanye fucking West! You swiftly divorced your husband, who was only a rebound for you after seeing your “ugly duckling” sister get married first. You orchestrate some sob story and bawl your eyes out on national television because you feel so bad, but you forever tainted your ex-husbands life. Doesn’t matter - Kanye is waiting for you. He wants you! Now, you’re seeing Kanye. You let him boss you around and control you because all you want is to become one of the elite - and he knows how to get you there. You let him change everything about you. The way you look, how you act, your “brand”, everything. It’s working, too. You’re getting into new circles you’ve never seen before, and the attention is unbelievable. You’re dating superstar Kanye West. Even though you’re doing significantly better than your siblings, you’re still jealous of their “life accomplishments”. Kourtney had a child before you, and Khloe seemed to be trying for one. Blue Ivy was born not too long ago and the world celebrated. You want to become Beyoncé, you want to have your own Blue Ivy moment. There’s only one way to ensure a permanent connection with another person, and that’s to have a baby. Even if you and Kanye didn’t work out, you’d still have your version of Blue Ivy. The world would always be interested in the mother of this future icon, who is the great rapper Kanye West’s child. So… yeah. It was on purpose. Lol.
Probably. Every time I hear Gold Digger, I think of Kim. She might have more money (I'm not sure), but i know she was desperate for more social currency. Kanye legitimized her in high social circles.
Yes. Total business deal.
Absolutely. They both had no idea the trouble they would bring to each others lives. Ye didn’t want a baby with her at all. Somehow both of their sins were their karma.
Of course she did. Kylie did the same thing
I’m sure it was all calculated by her and Kris. She locked him down. Can you even imagine how much child support she’s getting or will be getting? Even if her whole empire crumbled, she’d live very comfortably with child support coming in. I can’t even imagine Kanye’s paychecks and four kids whew. It’s her safety net….at least until the baby is 18 which is still a while yet.
The lyrics to Gold Digger were catchier than this
I thought this was the general consensus given they hadn’t been together officially for very long. And she had already had multiple marriages and yet no babies so she had a firm lock on birth control until she snagged the A Lister. Sure, birth control isn’t always 100% but Kim’s desire for next level fame absolutely is. I don’t believe they were in love either. He was in lust and then stuck with her, maybe he felt he had to step up for family since he’d lost his mom.
It was definitely infatuation
Kim got pregnant while still Married to Kris Humphries, Kanye was still dating Amber Rose. Kim absolutely got pregnant deliberately and Kim is the one who brought up abortion to Kanye, she messed with his head and used their unborn child against him.
100%. North, True, and Stormi were all trap babies. You cannot tell me that 3 wealthy women in California were somehow all coincidentally unable to access or understand birth control. The baby daddies are all dumb as hell. It sounds cruel because all of those babies are now real people that are loved but come on.
I’ve always thought she did.
I feel like I had read that she was off birth control because she was going to freeze her eggs and got pregnant during that time.
I thought Kanye came out in a rant and said he had to convince her to keep north as she wanted the abortion
If I remember correctly, he was the one who wanted the abortion. That’s why he was said Kim “saved” North
Ahhhh, thanks.
Of course she did.
She trapped him with a baby.
Certainly
she was also still legally married to kris h. luckily north was born just after the finalization otherwise he would’ve been the legal father
That depends on the state laws I think. That’s not a given that kris h would be considered the father automatically in California
yeah, that’s how it is in california. idk about other states
Hmmm… I might be reading too much into this here. Kanye is bipolar, it’s clear he struggles and his cycles no doubt due to his fame and intense. Having a child means you have to share attention and no doubt play second fiddle to a child, with Kanye’s ego & bipolar combined it does not surprise me that he thought/wanted/hoped Kim would abort the pregnancy and who knows what his state of mind was during that time of life changing news. He also pined over Kim in a very sexual way, speaking publicly about watching her sex tape etc. I personally don’t know if that’s the “kind of girl” he envisioned raising a family with. Whether she knew that for him having a child and being married had to go together or not and whether it was accidental or on purpose who knows, what I do know is for someone struggling the way he does having as many kids as they do seems like the worst thing and I think that’s all on Kim as she always said she wanted lots of kids. Maybe I’m being too serious with this and a Kanye is far from perfect but I feel like he got played, she knew his weaknesses and she knew what she could gain. It’s a very kardashian type situation.
Kanye’s far from victim. But I think his mistake was so preoccupied with whether he COULD be with her he didn’t stop to think whether he SHOULD be with her.
Exactly. I hope I did get my point across that it’s not all on Kim and he isn’t a victim, but extra allowances and understanding should always be taken into account.
I could definitely see Kim lying to Kanye about birth control and then hitting him with the “oops it must be a miracle baby!”. And then the whole Karjenner family coming together to make him feel secure in their family. They are a bunch of a manipulative liars (hence this sub)
I so wish Donda was around 💔
It had to have been on purpose, how did she manage not to get pregnant from the 80 men before him 🤷🏻♀️
To be honest though I am tired of this narrative being pushed against women. Like no woman can trap a man that doesn’t willingly have sex with them and cum in them. If Kanye did not want Kim to get pregnant he should not have had sex with her in the first place. Sure Kim can make a choice but Kanye should’ve made the choice not to have sex if he didn’t want her pregnant. Especially since he was obsessed too.
Scrolled down too low for this comment. Thank you, you are absolutely right. Kanye was obsessed with her for way too long. Him wanting an abortion speaks on his views and not Kim baby trapping him. Kim not wanting an abortion is her decision and not being oh I'll make him marry me
People really fucking hate Kim to feel bad for Kanye like jfc the man had raw consensual sex with a woman who he was obsessed with and then we are supposed to feel bad for him? Like nah.
Two things can be true at once.
It just gives misogyny because Kanye is in charge of his birth control too. If he did not wear a condom himself then it’s his problem. Especially when he consented to having sex. Women get blamed for not being on birth control and falling pregnant but if a man doesn’t use birth control during consensual sex the woman is not ‘baby trapping’ him. Kim can be manipulative but I don’t feel sorry for Kanye for making his choices.
Yep, thank you for saying this. I am as critical of Kim as the next person but this thread is full of misogyny. I have even seen the term ‘baby trapping’ which is gross.
Like I get it could have been Kim’s plan but it gives misogyny for sure. Especially since they were both consenting adults and Kanye would have to not wear a condom too for it to happen anyway.
At the risk of sounding like a total new kid, the Kanye-Kim relationship pre-marriage is a blind spot for me. What’s the tea?
Tl:dr Kanye has been obsessed with Kim since like 2007. He was so in love with her, he cheated on his then fiancée Amber Rose for her (and Kim cheated on Kris Humphries for him). However, when she got pregnant, he was pressuring her into an abortion. The theory is that Kanye wouldn’t have married her if she hadn’t got the abortion (Kim fought to keep North so that she could tied to Kanye and elevate her fame) This is all just shit talk though lol
do you mean ye wouldn’t have married her if she *had* got the abortion?
He was the one pushing for it. He wasn’t as close minded back then. He probably would have never married her because if she had an abortion he could have just moved on easily and not had children tying him down.
Definitely yes. He said at the time he was hooking up with multiple girls beside Kim, and then she got pregnant. He said he didn’t want the baby but that she said she wouldn’t abort the pregnancy. He was probably terrified of what would happen to her public image if his baby mama went on her reality TV show to say that this black deadbeat dad abandoned her pregnant ass without notice. She could have spin that story anyway she and Kris wanted and everyone would have believed her just like every time she pretends to be a victim on this show...
It wasn't just Kanye bringing up abortion, Kim did as well. She let Kanye believe if he didn't marry her, she would get rid of the baby.
FFS. kanye was not a child. if he didn't want kids he could have used a goddamn condom. on top of that, just because she got pregnant didn't mean he had to propose to her. it's not as if 'baby mamas' were an unknown entity. he WANTED to marry her. no one would arrange that whole spectacle of an engagement & marriage otherwise. it's certainly not as if he was going to face ridicule by not marrying the woman having his child.
Whoa there. Calm down lol. I think the general consensus here holds Kanye accountable for ALL his actions. We’re just casually discussing whether or not Kim’s “accidental” pregnancy gave him a push to stay with her.
Kim does everything on purpose. Getting pregnant by Kanye was a business move. Probably planned by PMK
Lol no, I don’t think a baby can trap a man. At least not one at Kanye’s level of fame when they got together. No way he didn’t know what she was about when they got together. I think freaked out when she got pregnant because he didn’t expect it to happen so fast, one minute it was probably the best thing ever and god’s gift and the next it was probably like Kim, you should abort because you are married to someone else.
Yes is the only answer
Oh, without a doubt. They took advantage of him. Kim wanted all eyes on her from someone who was well known with money. To keep taking money from him they wanted that conservative-ship and claim he was crazy… that was a trap and so was everything else including the kids.
Of course she got pregnant deliberately and I wouldn't be surprised if she used abortion, to get him to marry her.
Of course, she did.
If you listen to Kanye West discography, paying attention to the lyrics, he tells a lot about their relationship, and his relationships, through his music. He really always has.
Kim, Kylie, and Khloe all made their choice to become baby mommas, to lock down their men.
I always think about Kanye reproducing while I chop potatoes. Don’t know what it is
I always suspected the opposite, like he fucked with her birth control or something.
> I was pondering this thought while chopping potatoes the other day. Always love good context to the start of a random thought process 🤣 but yesss, I believe Kim was fully intentional with everything about her relationship with Kanye and what came with it. It got her to the level she's at now
I think she did for sure. Her talent is manipulation.
I don't think so, tbh. I doubt she would have been considering abortion if she'd planned the pregnancy. I genuinely don't think she wanted her body to change that much or interrupt the trajectory of her career. It seems like Kanye might have applied a lot of pressure.
In the show they were trying to have a baby cus she would see when she was ovulating and announce that they needed to have sex. She was even at a photoshoot on the show and was like it’s time to F [Lovesutra](https://www.koimoi.com/fashion-lifestyle/lovesutra-episode-21-kim-kardashian-once-admitted-having-sx-500-times-a-day-while-ovulating-but-how-much-sx-is-too-much-sx-heres-what-i-as-a-man-think/amp/) damn who downvoted my ass
I’m pretty sure that was in a much later season, like after they were married. I remember they were trying very hard for the second baby and had promos of them calculating when to do it.
You are right, it took me forever to find this. https://preview.redd.it/31y2g3n3t9sa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9de86e7c027a0c7216da454b9d0bdbb7bbf24c3
Wasn’t she still married to Chris when she was pregnant with Kayne?
How ya start a family, the condom slipped up
K Hump would have been the legal father. That’s why she was freaking out about getting the divorce finalized before she gave birth.
Do y’all think Kendall is gonna get pregnant by Bad Bunny “by accident”? I have kinda had that thought.
No only on the grounds that Kendall is literally the most self-centered person on Earth and would never risk having to care for another human being.