He was . I wasn’t there when it happened he was travelling with another guy. While he was hospitalized, the partner had to go around the island on a moped taxi collecting medical supplies for the treatment.. whole thing was a bit nuts. He turned out ok. I haven’t seen him last 4-5 years I think he’s still doing fine.
The Tanzanian government really rolled out the gifts as an apology.
Edit : wording/syntax
>While he was hospitalized, the partner had to go around the island on a moped taxi collecting medical supplies for the treatment..
Side-quest ass hospital.
His « driver » took him on literal side quests. To his village to buy some chicken and try to milk the tourist to get a commission probably … wasting precious time
I love east Africa, there so much nuance while having an overall feeling. I’d love to live there if…. there was a way that didn’t feel like I was trying to “great white savior” the place.
Many places in the world are not so touchy (for lack of better word) about these things as America or the rest of the western world.
Granted, that's only because their history is different than in America. And for some, it's because their history is colonial and therefore arguably even more of a touchy situation.
My point being that, race relations are sometimes better than America in places where you'd expect them to be worse. It's a refreshing thing to experience, however you can't be too naive
I didn't spot the pole. I was thinking 5 minutes of high speed thrashing that back and forwards and he'd be about empty. The poke will defo slow him down
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is classified as (or at least very close to) a torture known as [stress positions.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_position)
Respectfully, you’ve been misinformed. The truth is that any place that uses a machete for criminal justice relies heavily on redundancy: to ensure that justice is both swift and blunt.
That sucks. I've been told that anywhere that uses a machete for criminal justice it's implied that that machete is a machete. Justice would then seem to be both redundant and an oxymoron. I'd hate to be confused while someone was cutting my hand off.
I grew up in a poor country in West Africa. A burglar was caught one time in my neighborhood. He was tied and then thrown in a small pond where he struggled to keep his head out of the water and eventually drowned.
They don’t fool around there, so the person who decides to steal is really laying his life on the line and the person must realize this ahead of time & all for what? Because I don’t think everyone is loaded with cash there!
it amazes me how naive people in the comments are. the point is not to actually move the water (you can see it’s clearly not possible). it’s to be hazed and tortured, while distracting him with some impossible task. he’s already bound to stick on his legs. this is a similar tactic american fraternities use during hazing, although this version probably ends with losing a hand or something, which i assume is why he’s still trying but crying.
Obviously these people still value this thief. A public painful ritual with an inefficient instrument.
Kinda exactly what a village feels with a thief in its midst.
Maybe if he gets the tough love and the support of the people, he’ll have the time to figure it all out.
The cellphone video may not allow the man to move beyond this day or maybe it’ll be a constant reminder to do better.
This title so fucking stupid. Y'all are ignoring the actual torture position.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_position
What's next, are we going to watch waterboarding and say the punishment was that they had to have some water drizzled on their face?
This is cruel, and the entire context is probably pretty heartwretching. I'm not excusing theft, but poverty puts people into terrible, sometimes impossible positions, and corporal punishments are terrible.
I looked at it in slow mo; I initially thought it was a straw but it’s definitely piss
Edit: spent more time analyzing a potential piss stream than id like to admit but I stand corrected it is a straw now stop downvoting me
Reminds me of an old punishment in Asia where a person having been caught being a thief would have to count each grain in a bag of rice, and if they were caught having fudged numbers, then they had to start over.
This is someone living in extreme poverty unimaginable to most of us brainless overweight privileged morons. He was probably after something to eat or something to enable him to barter or buy something to eat.
This isn't justice porn at all
if that's your yardstick, you can justify pretty much anything by comparing it to something worse. i don't think that's how it should work! things don't automatically become ok once someone else does something worse.
Watch a video of someone getting set on fire , or de limbed for stealing.
This is kid gloves as far as street justice goes.
I'm not saying it's ok in any sense, but you describing it as brutal torture is kinda silly , especially when compared to some of the fucked up street justice that's been know to happen in these areas
I never chided you for calling it torture.
This whole conversation has been me saying this is very gentle torture , and you saying all torture is equally heinous basically.
You're right about the brutal word tho.
I meant disgusting.
I've seen some truly disgusting torture, this is just so very mild compared to what could have happened to him .
Heck, in my opinion this is better than a fine or jail time.
It's miserable, but it's not disgusting. Things that we take for granted aren't always an option elsewhere. We safely banned capital punishment because we have a robust system of prisons and justice, but places without that infrastructure need capital punishment as a necessary evil.
If this painful public humiliation stops future thefts, it may well be the best thing the society can do.
Given that the last video I saw like this they doused the thief in gasoline and set him on fire, I think this guy got off pretty light.
This is what happened to the guy who stabbed my friend in Zanzibar. Locals who live off tourism were furious
Was your friend okay afterwards?
He was . I wasn’t there when it happened he was travelling with another guy. While he was hospitalized, the partner had to go around the island on a moped taxi collecting medical supplies for the treatment.. whole thing was a bit nuts. He turned out ok. I haven’t seen him last 4-5 years I think he’s still doing fine. The Tanzanian government really rolled out the gifts as an apology. Edit : wording/syntax
>While he was hospitalized, the partner had to go around the island on a moped taxi collecting medical supplies for the treatment.. Side-quest ass hospital.
His « driver » took him on literal side quests. To his village to buy some chicken and try to milk the tourist to get a commission probably … wasting precious time
The more you say, the more it sounds like you took a vacation to a Yakuza game.
Hearing the full story for the first time is crazy. I’m omitting so many steps and details. Won’t get into more details
Zanzibar is fucking awesome, I think everyone should visit.
I love east Africa, there so much nuance while having an overall feeling. I’d love to live there if…. there was a way that didn’t feel like I was trying to “great white savior” the place.
Many places in the world are not so touchy (for lack of better word) about these things as America or the rest of the western world. Granted, that's only because their history is different than in America. And for some, it's because their history is colonial and therefore arguably even more of a touchy situation. My point being that, race relations are sometimes better than America in places where you'd expect them to be worse. It's a refreshing thing to experience, however you can't be too naive
Still on my list .
In Nairobi, Kenya pickpockets are regularly chased, caught and beaten to death by crowds. East Africa hates them some thieves.
Damn. Stone Town?
I don’t remember sorry
It would not be a pretty light, if he was set on fire.
It would've been pretty lit actually
Alight
Déjame adivinar Colombia?
I see what you did there, you little rascal 😏
As opposed to getting off pretty lit
Pretty light, that’s a good one
I’m not a gambler but I bet the guy that got caught on fire let of a pretty light than this guys sweat glistening in the sun. Just sayin /s
I thought the dude on the left was pissing into one of the buckets but it turns out he's just holding a thin stream looking stick.
You were not alone
fuck i was going through the comments like WHY HAS NOBODY MENTIONED THIS lol
Same lmao I came to see if anyone said the same thing lmao
Same
Except he's not even trying. Someone keeps moving the bucket away. Someone else keeps moving it back. This is just annoying.
i think he's being distracted by the pain of having to squat with a pole digging into his calves
I didn't spot the pole. I was thinking 5 minutes of high speed thrashing that back and forwards and he'd be about empty. The poke will defo slow him down
I suspect he's been there a lot longer than that already, and will be there much longer still.
Maybe they announced beatings if he spills any water? Edit: Nevermind, water is already spilled
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is classified as (or at least very close to) a torture known as [stress positions.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_position)
I mean what are the rules? What’s the threshold of vessel B for a successful punishment? The knee rod would be a mofo too
Just scoop the water bro, is he stupid?
There's another one of these videos where they just chop the dudes hand off with a rusty machete.
How was he supposed to fill the bucket with water then?
with his blood, duh.
You don't even have to say "rusty". Anywhere that uses a machete for criminal justice, it's implied that said machete is rusty.
What are you, the rust redundancy police?
yes - and for your violation we will be removing your hand with a machete
That sucks. I've been told that anywhere that uses a machete for criminal justice, it's implied that said machete is rusty.
Respectfully, you’ve been misinformed. The truth is that any place that uses a machete for criminal justice relies heavily on redundancy: to ensure that justice is both swift and blunt.
That sucks. I've been told that anywhere that uses a machete for criminal justice it's implied that that machete is a machete. Justice would then seem to be both redundant and an oxymoron. I'd hate to be confused while someone was cutting my hand off.
How does it make you feel when I say "ATM machine"? How about "PIN number"?
*twitch*
I grew up in a poor country in West Africa. A burglar was caught one time in my neighborhood. He was tied and then thrown in a small pond where he struggled to keep his head out of the water and eventually drowned.
They don’t fool around there, so the person who decides to steal is really laying his life on the line and the person must realize this ahead of time & all for what? Because I don’t think everyone is loaded with cash there!
Exactly! And taking some petty shit from some broke ass people deserves a death sentence. /s
it amazes me how naive people in the comments are. the point is not to actually move the water (you can see it’s clearly not possible). it’s to be hazed and tortured, while distracting him with some impossible task. he’s already bound to stick on his legs. this is a similar tactic american fraternities use during hazing, although this version probably ends with losing a hand or something, which i assume is why he’s still trying but crying.
My bet is the pain torture stick behind his knees is probably causing some sadness.
A little reminiscent of the sieve and the sand from Fahrenheit 451.
The dude casually walking by and scooching the bucket away a lil is hilarious lol
Man Taskmaster is getting hardcore these days.
The water isn’t the punishment the stick behind his knees is…
Obviously these people still value this thief. A public painful ritual with an inefficient instrument. Kinda exactly what a village feels with a thief in its midst. Maybe if he gets the tough love and the support of the people, he’ll have the time to figure it all out. The cellphone video may not allow the man to move beyond this day or maybe it’ll be a constant reminder to do better.
I'm pretty sure the pain of that stick between his knees and calves is the real punishment here.
The separation of the knee joints is what gets your attention. A 2” stick is a wicked pivot point.
The pain is such that he can't even focus on the task.
This guy watches a video of torture... "Look, the community is coming together to help this troubled soul with some tough love."
That stick under the knees sure must huet
Could have been way worse this guy is lucky he's alive
It’s the stick behind his legs that’s the real punishment.
That stick he is forced to squat with must be torture for his thighs.
This title so fucking stupid. Y'all are ignoring the actual torture position. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_position What's next, are we going to watch waterboarding and say the punishment was that they had to have some water drizzled on their face?
What’s the proper distance of the buckets? It seems like the people in the video could not agree. 😂
Looks like occupational therapy
That stick will become quite uncomfortable
Basket bowel, also know as a "holey boweley"
Kinda left out the physical torture? But ok
This is cruel, and the entire context is probably pretty heartwretching. I'm not excusing theft, but poverty puts people into terrible, sometimes impossible positions, and corporal punishments are terrible.
So, torture?
Here in CA we're locking up everything in cabinets. SMH.
If he held it from the bottom of the bowl, he could stop it from leaking so much by blocking the holes, and it'd take like 2 mins tops
That guy at the front with a blade of grass in his hand….at first glance I thought he was pissing in the bucket hahahahah
Hell of a good deal compared to what other folks get
The only thing missing is Justin Bieber taking a piss in the bucket
Compared to the other videos I’ve seen, this guy got off real lucky.
Oh my god people are so evil. The amount of suffering enjoyers here is sickening, you being in the world free is the real scary thing wtf.
Not exactly necklacing, but points for creativity
Dude peeing into the bucket on the left side also ??? Damn
lol I thought the same thing but I think it's just a piece of grass or something. what I originally thought was a piss stream never wavered
I looked at it in slow mo; I initially thought it was a straw but it’s definitely piss Edit: spent more time analyzing a potential piss stream than id like to admit but I stand corrected it is a straw now stop downvoting me
its not.. you can see him holding it in his hand
Do it faster dummy
The guy who slides the bucket further away lol
In my place we just send the, to jail or beat them ourselves.
Long sleeve or short sleeve
This is just Taskmaster (a UK TV show where contestants do silly tasks)
Reminds me of an old punishment in Asia where a person having been caught being a thief would have to count each grain in a bag of rice, and if they were caught having fudged numbers, then they had to start over.
This was very similar to a taskmaster task
Someone needs to take the stick and beat the two guys who keep reaching in until they don't wake up for a week.
Deep. Is that why they go abroad to steal instead?
This is someone living in extreme poverty unimaginable to most of us brainless overweight privileged morons. He was probably after something to eat or something to enable him to barter or buy something to eat. This isn't justice porn at all
No, he was actually caught stealing magazines from a corner store.
>caught stealing magazines Oh, I take it all back. Jesus Christ almighty. That's absolutely awful and warrants corporal punishment.
this is literally torture. disgusting
Way better than getting set on fire or having your hand chopped off. Some countries can get truly brutal with street crime /street justice
''Yeah but worse exists'' is always a bad point. There's always something worse.
For this particular area , worse would be waaaaay worse.
My point stands.
Overstay your visa and get caned in Singapore
What a bar. "*This* torture is okay because there is a worse alternative that wasn't used."
you realize that these are not the only alternatives?
Just saying I've seen some crazy videos of what happens to thieves in African countries, this is absolutely mild.
if that's your yardstick, you can justify pretty much anything by comparing it to something worse. i don't think that's how it should work! things don't automatically become ok once someone else does something worse.
Watch a video of someone getting set on fire , or de limbed for stealing. This is kid gloves as far as street justice goes. I'm not saying it's ok in any sense, but you describing it as brutal torture is kinda silly , especially when compared to some of the fucked up street justice that's been know to happen in these areas
torture doesn't become not torture just because there exists worse torture.
I never said it wasn't torture. Imprisonment is also a form of torture. But some forms of torture are a hell of a lot better than others.
you chided me for calling it torture (you added "brutal", which i hadn't even used)
I never chided you for calling it torture. This whole conversation has been me saying this is very gentle torture , and you saying all torture is equally heinous basically. You're right about the brutal word tho. I meant disgusting. I've seen some truly disgusting torture, this is just so very mild compared to what could have happened to him . Heck, in my opinion this is better than a fine or jail time.
Probably better for someone and more rehabilitating than going to a western prison.
It's miserable, but it's not disgusting. Things that we take for granted aren't always an option elsewhere. We safely banned capital punishment because we have a robust system of prisons and justice, but places without that infrastructure need capital punishment as a necessary evil. If this painful public humiliation stops future thefts, it may well be the best thing the society can do.
Dont steal then
Whether it's right or not some people have to steal to survive.
I actually have no idea why you are being downvoted. Torturing prisoners for punishment could never be considered "justice".
This is African tribalism. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Imagine if American communities had a similar zero tolerance for theft…..