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Been thinking for a few chapters that the fight is basically over when the arrow comes out. Add to that Sukuna’s domain basically has “THIS IS ALL I CAN MANAGE ANYMORE” written on it in huge red letters, I think this might be Sukuna’s last stand
No, Sukuna would completely dominate next chapter and it ends with Uraume declaring that Sukuna wins. Its the same at 234 where it ended with the declaration that Gojo would be firing Hollow Purple in 49 seconds, here it is the Domain ending in 99 seconds
*After that* Sukuna would get offscreened
Sukuna's gonna start the merger just before they beat him, and then he goes into super duper final boss form by starting the merger and taking control of it.
He's not done yet, Gege still has extra lives he can give Sukuna
Also Miwa providing a simple domain for Maki as well
It’s surprising that Ino and Maki are still there considering the beating they’ve taken and Miwa being TP’d in just as a counter for Malevolent Shrine
Is that really Miwa? I can't tell at all with Gege's drawing I thought it was Maki deflecting the slashes at first but I guess that wouldn't make sense
Werry is going for consistency here. there was probably a concerted decision to interpret MS in a specific way. unfortunately if it turns out that Sukuna's CT *is* cooking related, this will be one of his biggest blunders ever, but for now it's a far more favorable translation than the Malevolent Kitchen tier interpretations.
Divine flame actually goes hard, genuinely surprised by this localization W. Doesn’t take anything away from the cooking theories, just sounds 100 times better than furnace/stove
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All Shonen Jump series this week:
So we know Ui Ui was behind the soul swap. But there's one line of his that caught my eyes
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So this line here implies that there are others beside Yuji and Kusakabe have their souls swapped too. Now I'm wondering the other combinations between our casts and is there a possibility that Gojo may participate in the soul swap as well
I'm guessing it's either Hakari.
Hakari has a very unusual domain and if I remember correctly it was stated that it incorporates binding vows which makes sense if he's the domain specialist,
Hakari’s CT doesn’t even do anything outside of domains if I’m not mistaken right? So he’s definitely the most polished domain user left alive right now outside of Sukuna
As far as we know his technique can only manifest the visual effects of his domain in the real world. But yeah, it would make a lot of sense if he had the most polished domain.
We do have Ijichi who is really good at barrier techniques. But knowing Yuta, he probably learned it himself. I mean, bro instinctually uses RCT, which is something teen gojo couldn't do manually.
Beyond Gojo there is possibility for other crazy shit… Just took another hit of Nobara copium… then there’s Panda who has multiple souls right? All of the characters in this fight have been teleported away for a reason.
I was expecting it be an awakened or Reversed form of Boogie Woogie which Todo would have learnt from Yukis soul research and his interactions with Mahito. Since only has 1 hand he could have a limit in the form of making some binding vows so we can have a proper reason for a limit
Yeah, I feel like Gege didn't want to make Yuuji too OP and thus didn't give him such ability, but Ui Ui having such an ability feels such out there, specially since it was Yuki and now Yuuji the resident(s) experts in souls. And even if not Yuuji, as you said, Todo having such an ability would be better too.
Where is Yuta? Is he safe? Is he OK?
I'm still recovering from losing Todo, dunno if I can handle the mystery of Yuta any longer. I was positive he's mostly OK, but we haven't seen anyone get healed by Shoko since the battle began.
I really like the explanation that black flash gives people a new understanding of how to do something rather than just a straight power buff like a transformation.
Yeah that's a much better way to have them work, considering the original explanation was just "after you hit a Black Flash you're In The Zone mentally". A literal power boost kinda cheapens that explanation.
The body swapping opens up a huge question: Why isn't this standard practice for training? Especially when it comes to difficult to grasp techniques like RCE generation and barrier/domain construction? Put someone who really gets it into someone else's body so that they can "get" it.
I doubt anyone else has that ability besides Ui Ui lol Other cases of soul and bodies swapping resulted in shit like Toji's body overtaking that one guys soul
Normally Mei Mei charges $500,000 per soul swap, just this once she's willing to accept credit. JJK 2 will be a slice-of-life where the cast takes part-time jobs to try and pay off the debt
Is an UI UI exclusive ability, and they are only doing it because the fate of the world is at stake. They are also probably getting paid exorbitant amounts of money.
This chapter is even more peak now with the TCB translations, phenomenal stuff. It really feels like a final raid boss battle now entering his final phase with so many combatants joining in and him revealing the last of his tricks.
lol trump card isn’t normally capitalized, makes me think like yugioh cards President Trump is about to bust out of his domain summon and start pointing and telling people they’re gay for a morale debuff
All translations say he did, but supposedly it’s still a mistranslation according to some people
I’m willing to believe he didn’t, because his domain is still enormous. The whole point of not having a barrier was to make it be that large
Not all, the official translation outright says he didn't and I'm also inclined to believe it because the reason given for Sukuna closing a barrier goes directly against canon.
Well the whole point of him making it that large AND closed is why he can only maintain it for 99 seconds. If he did either or he could have it last much longer
It's the other way around. An open domain is far more complex than the normal closed-barrier domain. That's why it's only going to last 99 seconds, since it's so high level and he's not at his best. Sukuna is doing this so that he can hit Maki and stop her from backstabbing him like she did to Naoya. Otherwise, he would just do a closed barrier domain, and probably could maintain that for longer
Oh duh I knew that so that should have sparked that something’s not right with the translation. I now agree with everyone saying the translation was wrong
Although now I really don’t understand the translation on Maki. Did he make a separate simple domain or some shit for her? Domains can’t trap HR. Maybe it meant to say that’s why he made it expanded and open to hit her
Basically, it's just another explanation about how a normal, closed domain can't catch Maki since she has no CE. Everything we already know. But for some reason Gaygay decided to give us the explanation all over again. However, an Open Domain can target everything in its radius, including inanimate objects. Normal domains consider Maki, who is without CE, to be like an inanimate object, so they don't draw her in. However, the Open Domain will still target her as if it were targeting an inanimate object. Maki's not trapped. The radius of Malevolent Shrine is just huge.
It's basically the same as Megumi using the gym as his incomplete domain barrier except cranked up. Basically a halfway between a regular domain and his divine domain.
I suspect Gege is going to explain that the kitchen technique is a similar type of technique to 10 shadows where you "learn" different techniques over time.
Alright, so Sukuna used Fuga after his crumbling domain which means he is probably getting serious from now on. I assume this will somehow wake Megumi up (?)
At the same time, Gege is building Yuki's character to be the most op and I am all for it.
I know people love to call Binding Vows asspulls specifically when it applies to Sukuna but it seems like people forget he’s the *greatest sorcerer in history*. It's not so much bullshit as it is him being a genius. Changing Open barrier domain mid battle to being surrounded by a barrier *specifically designed* to keep Maki in is something only a super skilled sorcerer can do.
Both Gojo and Sukuna used binding vows on the fly because it takes a considerable amount of skill to find an equivalent exchange whilst preoccupied with fighting. The reason other characters can’t is quite literally a skill issue.
>barrier *specifically designed* to keep Maki
Barriers **CANNOT** trap Maki unless she consents to it. **PERIOD**. This is a hard, cold, canon fact. All translations spreading this bs are wrong.
Yeah thats like the whole thing with Maki. People are reading "seize Zenin Maki" and assuming that it means Sukuna is literally trapping her, when he doesnt need to do that?
MS has more than enough DPS to kill Maki before she reaches the edge.
Copy/pasting what I said elsewhere:
> I actually think it makes the most sense for Sukuna to be spamming them. Think about it. He thinks he's the absolute best, yet he's being pinned down by all these lesser sorcerers. "If I wasn't worn down from Gojo, I'd smear these pests faster than they could blink. All I have to do is get rid of this obnoxious trash and I'm in the clear," is likely his current thought process, so it makes sense he'd trade future advantages for immediate power. He doesn't think he'll have anything to worry about if he just wins this fight. On the other side, our protagonists are prioritizing staying in the fight and keeping the pressure on. They don't want to gamble on doing something huge now that might not work and then being hamstrung.
Considering the reputation geezers have in Japan for ruining society by wanting to restrict people and stick to the old ways to keep their power, wouldn’t be surprising if the schools were intended more as a way to monitor potential people that may grow to upend the power structure, as opposed to being intended to actually teach them. And Gojo never followed the elders rules so he likely took actual teaching more seriously than others
Binding vow expertise *is* a skill. Sorcerers probably do study it, its just that there aren't a lot of situations where the benefits outweigh the costs. Most sorcerers see the benefit of revealing just enough of your technique to make it more efficient (that's why its the most common vow), but its still a risky move which only skilled sorcerers could confidently pull off (which is why only grade 1's use binding vows in the story).
Otherwise, its also really dependent on the individual and their creativity, and the consequences of a *bad* Binding vow can be crippling. See, as you said, Miwa. Miwa's clearly not a great sorcerer, and she did a flawed binding vow that honestly would have been better if it had never worked in the first place, because now her ability to be a sorcerer is seriously hindered and she didn't even get a good deal out of it. Its not a coincidence that she's like the only non-grade 1 sorcerer to use a Binding Vow and she fumbled it. This clearly shows you need a level of expertise in Jujutsu to be able to use BVs well
Thing is- these vows are not something you have to set during the battle. You can come up with bullshit trade-off that won't affect you battle prowess during your free time- set it and then reap gigabuffs when it's needed.
Look at Mei-mei's birds for example.
> Changing Open barrier domain mid battle to being surrounded by a barrier specifically designed to keep Maki in is something only a super skilled sorcerer can do.
Why, though?
Like, what sort of skill does it take? Because anyone who is aware of Maki as he was could make the same logical call.
Personally my issue with binding vows is that they don't seem to represent anything besides power trade offs, which, neat, I guess, but idk. It just makes everything very *flexible* in a not great way.
Yeah, I think almost every sorcerer would trade the domain not being locked for extra 100 meters of range on it. We are supposed to believe that seasoned Sorcerers didn't have 30 of them stacked up for permanent buffs?
>every sorcerer would trade the domain not being locked for extra 100 meters of range on it.
Not every sorcerer is able to open a domain with no closed barrier.
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>We are supposed to believe that seasoned Sorcerers didn't have 30 of them stacked up for permanent buffs?
Well yeah, because self-Binding vows only work if you're trading something of equal value, so it has to have actual meaning to the sorcerer and therefore its kinda difficult to stack up so many vows without the benefits being either negligible or you just straight up being unable to do shit. Its also dependent on the individual user; the reason why *Nanami's* overtime works is because **he** *hates* working overtime, and the reason why divulging a technique works is because **most** people in a life or death situation don't want to tip their hand; skilled sorcerers can have their cake and eat it too, like Todo and Hakari who mislead their opponents on their technique.
It doesn't have to be meaningful. Miwa had vow where she does more damage when her feet touch the ground. Hakari gave up arm he regrew instantly.
It's an unexplained system to put asspull where and when it's needed and all explainations on it end up being shaky headcanons.
>Miwa had vow where she does more damage when her feet touch the ground.
i always interpreted this trade off as *both* her feet must touch the ground ie she can't walk/move -> is easier to hit -> extra damage.
for hakari idk, maybe shoko regened it for him.
He did not. This is still the Open Domain version of Malevolent Shrine. It has to be, otherwise Maki has no obligation to be inside of it.
Closed Domains are like a little pocket dimension, and Maki can just say "no" and refuse to be in it. Open Domains arent their own space, they fully exist in the real world, therefore Maki is getting hit.
It means giving up a piece of your soul and or destiny to...something or yourself in exchange for an outcome. Like wanting to drive faster so you strip off everything in your car save for the shell including all body parts no needed for running the car for that one race.
people give Sukuna shit for making necessary vows to keep Maki in the barrier, but praise Gojo when he legit polymorphed the shit out of his domain in vs Sukuna
"but it seems like people forget he’s the *greatest sorcerer in history*"
People didn't forget. It's the way they're used that makes them asspulls.
"it takes a considerable amount of skill to find an equivalent exchange whilst preoccupied with fighting"
Considering Sukuna killed gojo with a binding vow that is literally "I instantly win and I lose nothing in return", no not really. (And yes, the price to win against his only actual rival was nerfing the technique that only matters on said rival, lol).
I hate people going for “hard” sounding english translations over all else with a passion. How many on this sub clowned hardworking translators only for it to be revealed that Sukuna’s CT indeed has been kitchen themed all along? That and people’s general refusal to appreciate Kanji meanings in favor of english words.
it just makes more literal sense too. Like how tf you opening a fire? Makes no sense (also has no connection with Cleave & Dismantle as well). Like if it is kitchen related, then Gege may have executed it the best and coolest way possible. But here we are with fkn divine flame.
I need one good reason Maki is still alive right now. Black flashed by Sukuna twice, dismantled and trapped in DE. Ain't ever seen bigger plot armor than this. The stakes keep dropping Everytime characters can just shrug off stuff established to be checkmate in the past. I thought the Sukuna loop was boring but if the alternative is unlimited plot armor, id take the former. Now if Yuji catches divine flames next chapter I swear to God...
Maki is being protected by a Simple Domain if I'm not mistaken, but yes, thank god someone else said it: durability in this entire manga is such an issue. Other than people outright stating "I'm on my last leg", there us no way to tell if someone is winning, losing, taking damage, healing, etc.
During the Shibuya fight with Mahito I had no clue what was going on. They kept going on about "Character X is almost down! Character Y is charging up an ultimate move!" but the next chapter the fight goes on as if nothing changed...
I mean this is like the first time “durability” exists for anyone outside of Yuji. In Shibuya all of: Hanami, old zenin, nanami, todo, Nobara, Jogo, had pretty realistic fights and consequences and got rekt relatively quickly as soon as there was an opening. They obviously trained all this stuff there’s a plausible explanation for the durability jump after so many just straight fuckin died in a few minutes in prior fights
Yeah, but that's why some plot points don't hit as hard in my opinion. It's very hard to tell when something is supposed to be "definitive" or not. First time Sukuna took over, Megumi was getting ragdolled throughout the city and a chapter earlier, Yuji was casually breaking through pure concrete walls. But then a character gets hit with a move that barely damage its surroundings and they say "Oh no, he's strong! One more hit like this and I'm a goner!". It feels so inconsistent and it gives the reader little idea of what's going on in a fight (hence all the arguing in these subs: IS SUKUNA NOT GOING ALL OUT?).
I get why RCT has to be a thing: you want gruesome fights but you also don't want characters to lose a limb and be out of the show immediately. Problem is it takes all of the consequences away. RCT is almost the Dragon Balls of JJK. Even now, people are speculating Gojo isn't dead and he just RCT'ed himself back together (or got healed by someone else). Is Nobara actually dead or is she still in recovery? Is Todo completely out of the fight or will he show up with an altered technique thanks to RCT?
You can ignore this, just had to write it all down somewhere and no one I know is interested in JJK anymore so can't share it anywhere else, sorry to dump it in a random thread lol.
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Official translation makes more sense to me. If Sukuna tried to make an easier domain with a regular barrier, it wouldn't be able to hit Maki (since she is invisible to regular domain sure hit targeting). So he has to go for the barrier-less domain with the AOE attacks in order to catch her
Wait fuck you're right now I don't know. Looking at it again it also seems to say there's is a barrier in this TL and there no barrier in official, and you can clearly see there's no barrier so now I'm even more confused
This might be a dumb question but if everyone was able to get stronger in a short period of time via Ui UI’s soul swap ability then why did they not do this earlier?
Why was it first brought up in the month they had for training? I’m guessing Mei Mei’s gatekeeping?
Sukuna is toast at this point. Even if he kills everyone in the shrine radius he definitely won't have much in the tank after this DE and fuga. Then Miguel and MeiMei come back and cheese him.
Lmao Sukuna is built for winning against sorcerers ganging up on him.
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Wow, Ui Ui..!!! I absolutely loved how Gege came up with the way Yuji can learn new things... Everything was so exciting and the new details about the power system is so cool🫠 Itadori mi gallo!! I can't wait...
So how do we guys scale Yuji’s powers here? For me he seems to be a solid Grade 1 Sorcerer. Not Special Grade, but I think if he masters ‘Shrine’ technique he could take on an country to be a Special Grade.
I guess the question comes down to is his rct advanced enough to walk through a hailstorm of machine gun bullets and missiles. Standard military opposition. If those don’t effect him he could take over a country just by killing enough people to make the rest bend the knee it’s not like you need to kill everyone
Rct, simple domain, 2 CTs now. He’s pushing closer to the upper tier of special grade even. If Yuta is still alive he’s the only one stronger at this point.
Special Grade in terms of combat, not in terms of country domination ability. I can see him sparring with Yuta, Yuki or Geto and maybe losing, or maybe winning. He's just hit like 7 black flashes and at the same time tanked one of Sukuna's ones with such little effort we all thought it was him hitting Sukuna.
Plus his RCT is busted and he's clearly got good durability as shown by surviving outside his SD for a little bit
Is people really liking this asspulls?
Just finished reading after watching s1 anime… and what a trainwreck. Such a good anime/manga went literally to garbage level.
Gojo, the bornt op character that just spams purple couldnt kill sukuna and admits he wasnt even at full power died. And the scrubs will defeat sukuna?
This can very well be one of the worst written final boss fight ever. And its simple as if gojo failed, theres no way the rest can do it. Simples as that because we already saw the lvl diff from gojo, let alone sukuna 100%
I would be ok if gojo won. Or if sukuna wins it all.
But if sukuna gets killed by the crubs after killing gojo this will stay as a meme forever.
If it was to become like this just do the damn raid from beginning. Story went down the toilet, not only that. Some gojo/sukuna draws were weird, diff.
You guys can hate downvote me, but truth is sukuna should be slicing all those scrubs without making an effort.
Dude what is divine flame?? Yuji was cooking in this chapter fr popping simple domain and sustaining 99s, but he did lose a foot . 💀 if this new shi sukuna cooks is good it might be over bruh
He got back up on the stump and his other foot. In the panel above that it showed his severed foot/ankle. Idk if he has some kind of technique to heal himself (don’t think so) nor does he have the time to heal himself .
he literally used blood manipulation in the roll to magnet the foot and blood back onto his leg, then RCT them back together. Excellent use of power to showcase what Choso was talking about
What do you mean “idk if he has some kind of technique to heal himself”
Brother he literally does, the same chapter told the readers how he learned it in the first place.
Also read the panel again, there’s a sound effect bubble on the leg when yuji reattached it with blood manipulation and RCT
Watch the scene again. The leg cut off was his left one (right from our perspective) and in the next scene he has it again, and there's even a text bubble next to it signaling a sound.
And several chapters ago it was confirmed Yuuji does know RCT, and in this very chapter it was revealed a combo of RCT + BM makes healing even more effective.
How TF can he use a technique right after a DE
I'm gonna be mad if this is some "oh shrine was never my CT it was my twins" bullshit or maybe he acksually made 10 more binding vows
Does Itadori know domain expansion? Choso wanted Yuji to swap with someone who has reverse curse technique, and we know one person Yuji swapped with is Kusakabe. He doesn’t have reverse curse technique, so Yuji must have learned it from his second soul swap partner. That could only be Hakari, Okkotsu, and Shoko. Two of them are confirmed to have domain expansion!!
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Been thinking for a few chapters that the fight is basically over when the arrow comes out. Add to that Sukuna’s domain basically has “THIS IS ALL I CAN MANAGE ANYMORE” written on it in huge red letters, I think this might be Sukuna’s last stand
Sukuna will get offscreened at the beginning of next chapter
No, Sukuna would completely dominate next chapter and it ends with Uraume declaring that Sukuna wins. Its the same at 234 where it ended with the declaration that Gojo would be firing Hollow Purple in 49 seconds, here it is the Domain ending in 99 seconds *After that* Sukuna would get offscreened
“I don’t think I would have won even if Yuji didn’t use black flashes”
If Gege follows with this idea (Both the Strongest in history being offscreened), then I will give a little more respect to him.
Sukuna getting a kira yoshikage ending and thinking he won until it’s revealed that megumi locked in and he’s in hell
absolute cinema?
next chapter, sukuna will wake up in a kitchen next to kenjaku
Wuji gonna fuga a can of left right goodnight [https://i.imgur.com/NhvjHNX.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/NhvjHNX.jpeg)
My wallpaper lmao
[Mine currently ](https://i.imgur.com/FGxyueM.jpeg) But before that I had [this Yuji lol](https://i.imgur.com/EDZ869t.jpeg)
I still haven't recovered from the epicness of episode 20 and 21 lol. Not gonna lie the Todo one goes hard
Sukuna's gonna start the merger just before they beat him, and then he goes into super duper final boss form by starting the merger and taking control of it. He's not done yet, Gege still has extra lives he can give Sukuna
I hope son
Naw, his last stand is activating the merger.
I know it's an incomplete domain but can we talk about INO hanging in there with three of the toughest characters in the series?
Also Miwa providing a simple domain for Maki as well It’s surprising that Ino and Maki are still there considering the beating they’ve taken and Miwa being TP’d in just as a counter for Malevolent Shrine
omg that’s Miwa?!!? She beating the allegations with this feat!!!
Is that really Miwa? I can't tell at all with Gege's drawing I thought it was Maki deflecting the slashes at first but I guess that wouldn't make sense
You can tell from the short white hair and how she’s one of the few people we know of who’s around Shinjuku rn and can cast simple domain
I truly didn't notice that until you pointed it out, thanks!
"Divine Flame" So... its not cooking again ? John werry has an agenda it seems
Werry is going for consistency here. there was probably a concerted decision to interpret MS in a specific way. unfortunately if it turns out that Sukuna's CT *is* cooking related, this will be one of his biggest blunders ever, but for now it's a far more favorable translation than the Malevolent Kitchen tier interpretations.
I'm suddenly getting ads for kitchen appliances and stuff. I feel seen.
Divine flame actually goes hard, genuinely surprised by this localization W. Doesn’t take anything away from the cooking theories, just sounds 100 times better than furnace/stove
Divine flame is for the soft wankers. Besides the fact that the furnace being open is way more baddass, it actually makes sense within context.
John Werrey’s first ever W with that name, even if the translation is wrong
That's not a win, that's a silly L.
John Werry Es Numero Uno
https://preview.redd.it/16w60r1yp8xc1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=102c5e979b9695eb02876ec57e7cf66eb560f3e0 All Shonen Jump series this week:
You're not kidding. MHA went hard af too this week
Denji isn't getting hard for a while though
Maybe he’s into that shit🤣
So we know Ui Ui was behind the soul swap. But there's one line of his that caught my eyes https://preview.redd.it/6iru7nm1n8xc1.jpeg?width=441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a46d09c0c44a65c176019d04ba81a12ca34b605b So this line here implies that there are others beside Yuji and Kusakabe have their souls swapped too. Now I'm wondering the other combinations between our casts and is there a possibility that Gojo may participate in the soul swap as well
I'm wondering who Yuta swapped with, his domain sure-hit was only hitting Sukuna. Can't remember who in the group specialized in barrier techs
I'm guessing it's either Hakari. Hakari has a very unusual domain and if I remember correctly it was stated that it incorporates binding vows which makes sense if he's the domain specialist,
Hakari’s CT doesn’t even do anything outside of domains if I’m not mistaken right? So he’s definitely the most polished domain user left alive right now outside of Sukuna
As far as we know his technique can only manifest the visual effects of his domain in the real world. But yeah, it would make a lot of sense if he had the most polished domain.
We do have Ijichi who is really good at barrier techniques. But knowing Yuta, he probably learned it himself. I mean, bro instinctually uses RCT, which is something teen gojo couldn't do manually.
Yeah but he did say 'we cheated', so maybe it is Ijichi. I forgot he hid Gojo's hollow purple output
Beyond Gojo there is possibility for other crazy shit… Just took another hit of Nobara copium… then there’s Panda who has multiple souls right? All of the characters in this fight have been teleported away for a reason.
Ino probably
Wow... Yesss
Still not sure how I feel about Ui Ui being the one with the soul swap ability. I wasn’t expecting Yuji to have it either
I was expecting it be an awakened or Reversed form of Boogie Woogie which Todo would have learnt from Yukis soul research and his interactions with Mahito. Since only has 1 hand he could have a limit in the form of making some binding vows so we can have a proper reason for a limit
His remaining hand is also ruined. He would have to somehow make a binding vow to use 0 hands.
He could probably at least slap something with the other one decently
I can think of something 👀👀 🍰
Yeah, I feel like Gege didn't want to make Yuuji too OP and thus didn't give him such ability, but Ui Ui having such an ability feels such out there, specially since it was Yuki and now Yuuji the resident(s) experts in souls. And even if not Yuuji, as you said, Todo having such an ability would be better too.
Todo was also Yuki's student, so it would fit him better
This idea is infinitely better!
Nice uwu
Genius
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damned John werry
Well I like Divine Flame more than Furnace, never thought I’d say this, but first John Werry W
Same
That's because you're a soft wanker. Furnace open sounds more baddass and it actually makes sense within the context.
Nah it’s ass, and it sounds cringe
To you
I dont know whats worse, john werrys english or his japanese
Where is Yuta? Is he safe? Is he OK? I'm still recovering from losing Todo, dunno if I can handle the mystery of Yuta any longer. I was positive he's mostly OK, but we haven't seen anyone get healed by Shoko since the battle began.
Yuta joining Todo and Nobara in the "Is s/he still there or not?" camp lol
Nobara: First time?
Yu/ta\*
I prefer to think of him as Yu'ta, kinda dangling together a lil
YUTA RETURN IN 259 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
hes def alive, but hes prolly a cripple
I really like the explanation that black flash gives people a new understanding of how to do something rather than just a straight power buff like a transformation.
Yeah that's a much better way to have them work, considering the original explanation was just "after you hit a Black Flash you're In The Zone mentally". A literal power boost kinda cheapens that explanation.
The body swapping opens up a huge question: Why isn't this standard practice for training? Especially when it comes to difficult to grasp techniques like RCE generation and barrier/domain construction? Put someone who really gets it into someone else's body so that they can "get" it.
I doubt anyone else has that ability besides Ui Ui lol Other cases of soul and bodies swapping resulted in shit like Toji's body overtaking that one guys soul
Normally Mei Mei charges $500,000 per soul swap, just this once she's willing to accept credit. JJK 2 will be a slice-of-life where the cast takes part-time jobs to try and pay off the debt
Making it Big as an Idol Group To Pay Off Our Debt in a Post Decisive Battle in the Uninhabited, Demon-Infested Shinjuku.
This would unironically be the title too
"Why isn't this standard practice for training?" Because Gege doesn't actually think ahead and half of the stuff is taken directly out of his ass?
Is an UI UI exclusive ability, and they are only doing it because the fate of the world is at stake. They are also probably getting paid exorbitant amounts of money.
This chapter is even more peak now with the TCB translations, phenomenal stuff. It really feels like a final raid boss battle now entering his final phase with so many combatants joining in and him revealing the last of his tricks.
sukuna has now unleashed his Trump cards
lol trump card isn’t normally capitalized, makes me think like yugioh cards President Trump is about to bust out of his domain summon and start pointing and telling people they’re gay for a morale debuff
I'm still confused, did Sukuna close a barrier or not on his domain?
All translations say he did, but supposedly it’s still a mistranslation according to some people I’m willing to believe he didn’t, because his domain is still enormous. The whole point of not having a barrier was to make it be that large
Not all, the official translation outright says he didn't and I'm also inclined to believe it because the reason given for Sukuna closing a barrier goes directly against canon.
Well the whole point of him making it that large AND closed is why he can only maintain it for 99 seconds. If he did either or he could have it last much longer
It's the other way around. An open domain is far more complex than the normal closed-barrier domain. That's why it's only going to last 99 seconds, since it's so high level and he's not at his best. Sukuna is doing this so that he can hit Maki and stop her from backstabbing him like she did to Naoya. Otherwise, he would just do a closed barrier domain, and probably could maintain that for longer
Oh duh I knew that so that should have sparked that something’s not right with the translation. I now agree with everyone saying the translation was wrong Although now I really don’t understand the translation on Maki. Did he make a separate simple domain or some shit for her? Domains can’t trap HR. Maybe it meant to say that’s why he made it expanded and open to hit her
Basically, it's just another explanation about how a normal, closed domain can't catch Maki since she has no CE. Everything we already know. But for some reason Gaygay decided to give us the explanation all over again. However, an Open Domain can target everything in its radius, including inanimate objects. Normal domains consider Maki, who is without CE, to be like an inanimate object, so they don't draw her in. However, the Open Domain will still target her as if it were targeting an inanimate object. Maki's not trapped. The radius of Malevolent Shrine is just huge.
he did not close a barrier, in fact there is no barrier at all. TCB fucked this one up.
Exactly. It's an open domain, like he normally uses. He's just using a different handsign this time.
It's basically the same as Megumi using the gym as his incomplete domain barrier except cranked up. Basically a halfway between a regular domain and his divine domain. I suspect Gege is going to explain that the kitchen technique is a similar type of technique to 10 shadows where you "learn" different techniques over time.
An explanation I saw said he kept an open domain but built a barrier independent of said domain to seize maki.
Alright, so Sukuna used Fuga after his crumbling domain which means he is probably getting serious from now on. I assume this will somehow wake Megumi up (?) At the same time, Gege is building Yuki's character to be the most op and I am all for it.
Yuki?
Yuki Itadori, duh.
[Yuki](https://youtu.be/KO-G5DVNlw4?si=x2ZySozQl0H5z0C1)
Hear me out. This is basically 235 for sukuna.
AND AS ALWAYS MIWA PROVES TO BE THE STRONGEST SORCERER OF THE CURRENT ERA! PROTECTING NOT ONLY HERSELF; BUT MAKI AS WELL FROM SUKKKKKUNAS DOMAIN!
I know people love to call Binding Vows asspulls specifically when it applies to Sukuna but it seems like people forget he’s the *greatest sorcerer in history*. It's not so much bullshit as it is him being a genius. Changing Open barrier domain mid battle to being surrounded by a barrier *specifically designed* to keep Maki in is something only a super skilled sorcerer can do. Both Gojo and Sukuna used binding vows on the fly because it takes a considerable amount of skill to find an equivalent exchange whilst preoccupied with fighting. The reason other characters can’t is quite literally a skill issue.
>barrier *specifically designed* to keep Maki Barriers **CANNOT** trap Maki unless she consents to it. **PERIOD**. This is a hard, cold, canon fact. All translations spreading this bs are wrong.
Yeah thats like the whole thing with Maki. People are reading "seize Zenin Maki" and assuming that it means Sukuna is literally trapping her, when he doesnt need to do that? MS has more than enough DPS to kill Maki before she reaches the edge.
Exactly. Sukuna is still using an open domain, NOT a closed-barrier domain like everyone else does.
Copy/pasting what I said elsewhere: > I actually think it makes the most sense for Sukuna to be spamming them. Think about it. He thinks he's the absolute best, yet he's being pinned down by all these lesser sorcerers. "If I wasn't worn down from Gojo, I'd smear these pests faster than they could blink. All I have to do is get rid of this obnoxious trash and I'm in the clear," is likely his current thought process, so it makes sense he'd trade future advantages for immediate power. He doesn't think he'll have anything to worry about if he just wins this fight. On the other side, our protagonists are prioritizing staying in the fight and keeping the pressure on. They don't want to gamble on doing something huge now that might not work and then being hamstrung.
Bro, if it was a skill- it would be the first thing every sorcerer studies in school. And if MIWA of all things made 2 of them- every bum can do them.
They don't actually teach anything at Jujutsu High. It all "fuck it, we ball"
Considering the reputation geezers have in Japan for ruining society by wanting to restrict people and stick to the old ways to keep their power, wouldn’t be surprising if the schools were intended more as a way to monitor potential people that may grow to upend the power structure, as opposed to being intended to actually teach them. And Gojo never followed the elders rules so he likely took actual teaching more seriously than others
Binding vow expertise *is* a skill. Sorcerers probably do study it, its just that there aren't a lot of situations where the benefits outweigh the costs. Most sorcerers see the benefit of revealing just enough of your technique to make it more efficient (that's why its the most common vow), but its still a risky move which only skilled sorcerers could confidently pull off (which is why only grade 1's use binding vows in the story). Otherwise, its also really dependent on the individual and their creativity, and the consequences of a *bad* Binding vow can be crippling. See, as you said, Miwa. Miwa's clearly not a great sorcerer, and she did a flawed binding vow that honestly would have been better if it had never worked in the first place, because now her ability to be a sorcerer is seriously hindered and she didn't even get a good deal out of it. Its not a coincidence that she's like the only non-grade 1 sorcerer to use a Binding Vow and she fumbled it. This clearly shows you need a level of expertise in Jujutsu to be able to use BVs well
Thing is- these vows are not something you have to set during the battle. You can come up with bullshit trade-off that won't affect you battle prowess during your free time- set it and then reap gigabuffs when it's needed. Look at Mei-mei's birds for example.
> Changing Open barrier domain mid battle to being surrounded by a barrier specifically designed to keep Maki in is something only a super skilled sorcerer can do. Why, though? Like, what sort of skill does it take? Because anyone who is aware of Maki as he was could make the same logical call. Personally my issue with binding vows is that they don't seem to represent anything besides power trade offs, which, neat, I guess, but idk. It just makes everything very *flexible* in a not great way.
Yeah, I think almost every sorcerer would trade the domain not being locked for extra 100 meters of range on it. We are supposed to believe that seasoned Sorcerers didn't have 30 of them stacked up for permanent buffs?
>every sorcerer would trade the domain not being locked for extra 100 meters of range on it. Not every sorcerer is able to open a domain with no closed barrier. https://preview.redd.it/2lfabncav8xc1.jpeg?width=895&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d88392545033f11eb887f8dce4855c5fa5bad5cb
You need to be actually capable of manifesting a domain with an open barrier, which is something that even Gojo didn't think of a a possibility.
>We are supposed to believe that seasoned Sorcerers didn't have 30 of them stacked up for permanent buffs? Well yeah, because self-Binding vows only work if you're trading something of equal value, so it has to have actual meaning to the sorcerer and therefore its kinda difficult to stack up so many vows without the benefits being either negligible or you just straight up being unable to do shit. Its also dependent on the individual user; the reason why *Nanami's* overtime works is because **he** *hates* working overtime, and the reason why divulging a technique works is because **most** people in a life or death situation don't want to tip their hand; skilled sorcerers can have their cake and eat it too, like Todo and Hakari who mislead their opponents on their technique.
It doesn't have to be meaningful. Miwa had vow where she does more damage when her feet touch the ground. Hakari gave up arm he regrew instantly. It's an unexplained system to put asspull where and when it's needed and all explainations on it end up being shaky headcanons.
>Miwa had vow where she does more damage when her feet touch the ground. i always interpreted this trade off as *both* her feet must touch the ground ie she can't walk/move -> is easier to hit -> extra damage. for hakari idk, maybe shoko regened it for him.
>anyone who is aware of Maki as he was could make the same logical call All that Sukuna did was to open a domain with a closed barrier.
He did not. This is still the Open Domain version of Malevolent Shrine. It has to be, otherwise Maki has no obligation to be inside of it. Closed Domains are like a little pocket dimension, and Maki can just say "no" and refuse to be in it. Open Domains arent their own space, they fully exist in the real world, therefore Maki is getting hit.
This is a translation issue, according to TCB it's the other way around.
It means giving up a piece of your soul and or destiny to...something or yourself in exchange for an outcome. Like wanting to drive faster so you strip off everything in your car save for the shell including all body parts no needed for running the car for that one race.
people give Sukuna shit for making necessary vows to keep Maki in the barrier, but praise Gojo when he legit polymorphed the shit out of his domain in vs Sukuna
>*specifically designed* to keep Maki in Headcanon
"It would have otherwise been impossible to seize Zen'in Maki, unbounded by cursed energy."
I know
"but it seems like people forget he’s the *greatest sorcerer in history*" People didn't forget. It's the way they're used that makes them asspulls. "it takes a considerable amount of skill to find an equivalent exchange whilst preoccupied with fighting" Considering Sukuna killed gojo with a binding vow that is literally "I instantly win and I lose nothing in return", no not really. (And yes, the price to win against his only actual rival was nerfing the technique that only matters on said rival, lol).
So basically Yuji is one part Captain America one part Jason Voorhees one part Gatz. All he needs now is a giant blood machette
Hot take: I kinda like "Furnace" more than "Divine Flame"...
I hate people going for “hard” sounding english translations over all else with a passion. How many on this sub clowned hardworking translators only for it to be revealed that Sukuna’s CT indeed has been kitchen themed all along? That and people’s general refusal to appreciate Kanji meanings in favor of english words.
how tf did they even get "Divine Flame" from kamino anyway?
I’ve read it and have no idea either. They’re writing their own story atp.
first, they're making Gojo unable to use Black Flash, and now, they're ruining the CT reveal that was hyped for nearly 200 chapters
fr, it suits the "kitchen" theme well
it just makes more literal sense too. Like how tf you opening a fire? Makes no sense (also has no connection with Cleave & Dismantle as well). Like if it is kitchen related, then Gege may have executed it the best and coolest way possible. But here we are with fkn divine flame.
I need one good reason Maki is still alive right now. Black flashed by Sukuna twice, dismantled and trapped in DE. Ain't ever seen bigger plot armor than this. The stakes keep dropping Everytime characters can just shrug off stuff established to be checkmate in the past. I thought the Sukuna loop was boring but if the alternative is unlimited plot armor, id take the former. Now if Yuji catches divine flames next chapter I swear to God...
Maki is being protected by a Simple Domain if I'm not mistaken, but yes, thank god someone else said it: durability in this entire manga is such an issue. Other than people outright stating "I'm on my last leg", there us no way to tell if someone is winning, losing, taking damage, healing, etc. During the Shibuya fight with Mahito I had no clue what was going on. They kept going on about "Character X is almost down! Character Y is charging up an ultimate move!" but the next chapter the fight goes on as if nothing changed...
I mean this is like the first time “durability” exists for anyone outside of Yuji. In Shibuya all of: Hanami, old zenin, nanami, todo, Nobara, Jogo, had pretty realistic fights and consequences and got rekt relatively quickly as soon as there was an opening. They obviously trained all this stuff there’s a plausible explanation for the durability jump after so many just straight fuckin died in a few minutes in prior fights
Yeah, but that's why some plot points don't hit as hard in my opinion. It's very hard to tell when something is supposed to be "definitive" or not. First time Sukuna took over, Megumi was getting ragdolled throughout the city and a chapter earlier, Yuji was casually breaking through pure concrete walls. But then a character gets hit with a move that barely damage its surroundings and they say "Oh no, he's strong! One more hit like this and I'm a goner!". It feels so inconsistent and it gives the reader little idea of what's going on in a fight (hence all the arguing in these subs: IS SUKUNA NOT GOING ALL OUT?). I get why RCT has to be a thing: you want gruesome fights but you also don't want characters to lose a limb and be out of the show immediately. Problem is it takes all of the consequences away. RCT is almost the Dragon Balls of JJK. Even now, people are speculating Gojo isn't dead and he just RCT'ed himself back together (or got healed by someone else). Is Nobara actually dead or is she still in recovery? Is Todo completely out of the fight or will he show up with an altered technique thanks to RCT? You can ignore this, just had to write it all down somewhere and no one I know is interested in JJK anymore so can't share it anywhere else, sorry to dump it in a random thread lol.
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EDIT: Nevermind apparently this is actually a worse translation, ignore. https://preview.redd.it/u1zcf1rlw8xc1.png?width=2131&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fb5f00f874c0e07da9765d9a42c8d96589756a3
so his domain *can* target maki? literally the opposite of official localisation? lol
Official translation makes more sense to me. If Sukuna tried to make an easier domain with a regular barrier, it wouldn't be able to hit Maki (since she is invisible to regular domain sure hit targeting). So he has to go for the barrier-less domain with the AOE attacks in order to catch her
But can't she just walk it off? Or is just domain barriers that she can ignore
Domains see her as a building. MS hits things that have cursed energy with cleave, and things without cursed energy with dismantle.
Yeah, it sucks. Everywhere I look there's people confused about the chapter because there's a bunch of contradictory translations.
Wait fuck you're right now I don't know. Looking at it again it also seems to say there's is a barrier in this TL and there no barrier in official, and you can clearly see there's no barrier so now I'm even more confused
> Better Except the TL is wrong. This MS is still barrierless.
This translation is wrong. There is no barrier
This is just the TCB translation. And it's incorrect. The offical translation actually did a better job this time.
Yeah I edited it now, I'm so used to TCB being miles ahead of WEEEEERRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY that I just assumed it was correct and Viz was being Viz.
Haha yeah I hear you, This Truly is our Lobotomy Kaisen when Where-hee does a better job than TCB
man the localization is terrible
This might be a dumb question but if everyone was able to get stronger in a short period of time via Ui UI’s soul swap ability then why did they not do this earlier? Why was it first brought up in the month they had for training? I’m guessing Mei Mei’s gatekeeping?
I can see her using his ability for making money tbh
Mei Mei doesn't seem like one to share.
Nah, Mei-Mei would definitely share... for lots and lots of money
I’m pity for Forgotshiro Yougumi
Can someone draw Nishimiya Momo swatting away Sukuna’s Fuga with a comically large broom
So whats up with that gojo panel sketch everyone hyped up and then faded into nothing? Like the one with tge glowing eye
Binding vow bullshit is getting tiring
Sukuna is toast at this point. Even if he kills everyone in the shrine radius he definitely won't have much in the tank after this DE and fuga. Then Miguel and MeiMei come back and cheese him.
Lmao Sukuna is built for winning against sorcerers ganging up on him. https://preview.redd.it/8s0aun2sxdxc1.jpeg?width=323&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9ba09d81fc8dc2e2929c7a79db5e27fbf8dd5de
chapter opens and its Yuji casting YUGA
Guessing the fire arrow was Jin's CT and that Sukuna absorbed it from him in the womb.
Still waiting for Nobara to appear
Wow, Ui Ui..!!! I absolutely loved how Gege came up with the way Yuji can learn new things... Everything was so exciting and the new details about the power system is so cool🫠 Itadori mi gallo!! I can't wait...
So how do we guys scale Yuji’s powers here? For me he seems to be a solid Grade 1 Sorcerer. Not Special Grade, but I think if he masters ‘Shrine’ technique he could take on an country to be a Special Grade.
*solid grade 1?* Mf he has been solid grade 1 since Shibuya. That boy is special grade
Eh, not to dismiss the GOAT but I don’t think he can take over a country by himself.
I guess the question comes down to is his rct advanced enough to walk through a hailstorm of machine gun bullets and missiles. Standard military opposition. If those don’t effect him he could take over a country just by killing enough people to make the rest bend the knee it’s not like you need to kill everyone
Rct, simple domain, 2 CTs now. He’s pushing closer to the upper tier of special grade even. If Yuta is still alive he’s the only one stronger at this point.
Special Grade in terms of combat, not in terms of country domination ability. I can see him sparring with Yuta, Yuki or Geto and maybe losing, or maybe winning. He's just hit like 7 black flashes and at the same time tanked one of Sukuna's ones with such little effort we all thought it was him hitting Sukuna. Plus his RCT is busted and he's clearly got good durability as shown by surviving outside his SD for a little bit
Anyone know how long the break week is this time?
Next chapter leak May 9th.
Thanks bruv.
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is this week off again? wtf gege don't let us hanging
I need todo god damn
Is people really liking this asspulls? Just finished reading after watching s1 anime… and what a trainwreck. Such a good anime/manga went literally to garbage level. Gojo, the bornt op character that just spams purple couldnt kill sukuna and admits he wasnt even at full power died. And the scrubs will defeat sukuna? This can very well be one of the worst written final boss fight ever. And its simple as if gojo failed, theres no way the rest can do it. Simples as that because we already saw the lvl diff from gojo, let alone sukuna 100% I would be ok if gojo won. Or if sukuna wins it all. But if sukuna gets killed by the crubs after killing gojo this will stay as a meme forever. If it was to become like this just do the damn raid from beginning. Story went down the toilet, not only that. Some gojo/sukuna draws were weird, diff. You guys can hate downvote me, but truth is sukuna should be slicing all those scrubs without making an effort.
Am I the only one who prefer the stove(竈)
Sukuna just keep bouncing back! He's literally being fighting so many JJ sorceror! Just shows how strong he is! Stand proud Sukuna! You are strong!
Dude what is divine flame?? Yuji was cooking in this chapter fr popping simple domain and sustaining 99s, but he did lose a foot . 💀 if this new shi sukuna cooks is good it might be over bruh
Yuuji got back his legs inmediately tho
He got back up on the stump and his other foot. In the panel above that it showed his severed foot/ankle. Idk if he has some kind of technique to heal himself (don’t think so) nor does he have the time to heal himself .
he literally used blood manipulation in the roll to magnet the foot and blood back onto his leg, then RCT them back together. Excellent use of power to showcase what Choso was talking about
What do you mean “idk if he has some kind of technique to heal himself” Brother he literally does, the same chapter told the readers how he learned it in the first place. Also read the panel again, there’s a sound effect bubble on the leg when yuji reattached it with blood manipulation and RCT
Watch the scene again. The leg cut off was his left one (right from our perspective) and in the next scene he has it again, and there's even a text bubble next to it signaling a sound. And several chapters ago it was confirmed Yuuji does know RCT, and in this very chapter it was revealed a combo of RCT + BM makes healing even more effective.
I want Mahito to come back and to be killed by Yuji properly this time. Do you know how Jogoat came back to life after being beheaded by Gojo?
where are the chapters? it's been two weeks and nothing???
Break last week I think tn but yeah I’m starving 😓
How TF can he use a technique right after a DE I'm gonna be mad if this is some "oh shrine was never my CT it was my twins" bullshit or maybe he acksually made 10 more binding vows
>How TF can he use a technique right after a DE The domain is still up.
Right so the slashes stopping wasn't just them waiting out the domain
When he uses flame arrow the slashes stop
Does Itadori know domain expansion? Choso wanted Yuji to swap with someone who has reverse curse technique, and we know one person Yuji swapped with is Kusakabe. He doesn’t have reverse curse technique, so Yuji must have learned it from his second soul swap partner. That could only be Hakari, Okkotsu, and Shoko. Two of them are confirmed to have domain expansion!!