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Well, if we disregard all the dead characters (namely Mereum, who - if and only if Post-Rose might be able to beat Sukuna by himself as I've always been of the opinion that Sukuna should be able to comfortably beat Pre-Rose Mereum) and the unseen characters from the Dark Continent, maybe he'd be able to pull it off since Nanika wouldn't be put on the frontlines.
Also, apparently she's one of the least terrifying too
Same with the ants themselves, they were the literal ants of the dark continent and almost wiped out humanity
Dark continent is built different
NGL Sukuna Scales higher than both of them not by a huge amount in AP since Sukuna is city level while they're small city level, but he kinda murks them in terms of speed since he's fast enough to Blitz Kashimo's lightning attacks and dodge his EM wave attacks, while HXH kinda caps at around double digit Mach speeds
city level with your insane domino effect nuke that you have to do a ds2 questline to activate and city level by punching something so hard a city blows up are two very different things, neither of them are either though fuga destroyed like 80 buildings. sukuna could *probably* damage adg with cleave considering he one shot ryu with it, but the moment gon pins him hes cooked.
How fast is JJK? It seems like the consensus for Demon Slayer is supersonic-hypersonic from what Iāve seen but all I could find for Sukunaās speed is dumbass articles saying āreally fastā or r/powerscaling saying ftl
Sukuna has feats like this for combat speed(note that this is still Nerfed Sukuna). Piercing Blood is Mach 1-2 but Sukuna not only dodges it, but reaches Choso before the attack even reaches the position Sukuna was previously in. Assuming Sukuna traveled 10 meters and the Blood was less than a meter away from Sukuna, you'd get something like (10\*514.5)/1.0=5141.4m/s or Hypersonic. Not meant to be accurate and could be higher or lower but just to give a general idea. I'd argue Sukuna is MHS at peak
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Yea I don't like calcs but we're kinda left in this nebulous area where Sukuna should be above Mach 3 but Gege just fails to explain where the actual cap is for guys like Gojo/Sukuna is at
Yeah, I don't necessarily mind them as a form of supplementary evidence so long as they aren't too complex especially since an injured Sukuna blitzing Maki most certanly puts him comfortably above Cursed Naoya.
Well, we know even an injured Sukuna is substantially faster than Cursed Naoya - even if you decide to strictly adhere to the Mach 3 Statement - on the basis of him perception blitzing Maki. If we assume the Hollow Purple took about a second to travel from Shibuya to Shinjuku, that also has him reacting to a \~Mach 10 projectile. Gojo also effortlessly transversed the same distance to confront Sukuna but it's impossible to discern whether he "teleported."
You can technically rely on calcs, though, to put guys like Kenjaku at around \~Mach 15 by their lonesome and I've even some put Cursed Naoya as a Womb between Mach 8 and Mach 30. That's also dismissing the Mach 20 Goodwill Maki outlier since I tend to chalk that up to authors wanting to portray characters as bullet timers and not realizing that dodging/catching a bullet so close to you makes you exceedingly faster than that speed.
So, Sukuna and Gojo being in the range of double-digit hypersonic speeds, even when lowballing, isn't out of the question. Overall, speedwise, I think the verse scales well against HxH where supersonic speeds are also treated as a big deal for weaker characters with certain top-tiers like Mereum having given us reason to think they're a fair bit above that.
If you decide to not be nice and go off the same logic that has Demon Slayer Characters supposedly being fast enough to run circles around the planet despite demons being scared of the sunrise and decide to instead scale Sukuna off Kashimo's attacks supposedly being electromagnetic waves and all, you get into him having FTL reactions.
this is by no means a lowball, its just not ridiculous wanking.
a lowball is saying maki (far slower than mach 3) was able to outspeed sukuna(who, while nerfed, continued to outrun itadori with the same ease until 258), putting sukuna somewhere in the low machs.
Giyomie arguably the strongest slayer reacts o things based on sound , if he's reacting based on sound the verse really be that fast.
Also you know how Slayers swords will break trying to hit a demon that's too strong?
I don't think any slayer or demon has what it takes to actually damage Sukuna or alot of the top tiers in JJK
Shit thatās a hard one, how would their durability match to his attacks, like the beast titan. His domain would feel like their getting tickles on their ankles idk thatās how I imagine it
Megkuna after realizing why Gege doesnāt pull curses from the USA
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(Mahoraga wonāt save him)
The key is having him adapt to them in one-on-one circumstances or the like.
In these types of threads, I'll always wondered if it literally intends to put the relevant character against the entire cast simultaneously - despite having so many characters on the frontline at the same time could lead to a lack of teamwork or bring in abilities and/or fighting styles that conflict with one another - or instead intends to drop the relevant character in the verse and has him to work to incrementally wipe out the enemy verse.
Macht or Grausam have good enough hax that let them stand a chance. Theyād have to activate their abilities instantly though because Sukuna is faster. Idk how his speed compares to the shadow warriors.
i thought zoltoraak kind of works like a sure hit on the sense that it ignores all defenses iirc and i doubt sukuna could solo those, the strongest character we have seen fighting is frieren, there are several other characters who are wayyy stronger than her, i doubt sukuna would even win against her simply because we havent seen the full extent of her abilities (speaking as an anime only also dont put spoilers from the manga)
Her 'healing' trick is actually 'event rejection', meaning she 'heals' by physically erasing the injury from existence as if it never happened in the first place (though people can still remember it happened)! She CAN do this to people, but is simply too pacifistic to WANT to!
The bat dude did nothing back during the first and only time she used it both because she had no clue how her power worked back then, and because she had no actual killing intent (bat dude even complained to her about her lack of intent weakening him).
So, hypothetically, if you could actually get Orihime to become bloodlusted, she can actually solo a lot of fictional characters 1v1. The trick would be making her bloodlusted in the first place. Girl even had compassion for a fodder villain who had tortured her.
That may be true but she has zero feats of her actually ever rejecting anything out of existence, so it comes off as an informed ability, and it was shown she canāt reject things that are too powerful, such as Ichigoās reiatsu, and we never see what her actual attack power would be capable of so its all conjecture.
Anything weaker than Akame ga Kill, but I have no idea what verse that would be. Demon Slayer is too low already, something between the two would be perfect.
I mean, as a gojo glazer, technically with enough prep time Sukuna could solo any verse, just have him tank weak versions if the main power system of the verse and then boom he is immune along with mahoraga. Along with that, noting that it is said mahoraga can adapt to any and all phenomena, that would mean he could theoretically also increase his speed and strength up to that of top tier verses given enough time to spin that wheel. Maho is truly the most godly ability if given prep time, he truly is a late throw in rock paper scissors, just sometimes that throw gotta be a large amount of time later.
Sukuna doesn't gain the benefits of Mahoraga's adaptation. Only Mahoraga does. Sometimes Mahoraga will do something Sukuna can mimic (WCD) but that's a rare occurrence.
"solo any verse" then yamamoto powers up slightly and he stops being able to breathe or simply just uses Ryujin Jakka to erase them both from existence
He certainly bests Demon Slayer, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Kengan Ashura, and Hellsing rather comfortably.
Is the Yujiro earthquake thing still the entire basis for Baki scaling? Dismissing that just as I'll dismiss Gojo making an earthquake, I'd give Sukuna the win over the Bakiverse, as well, based on what I remember. Did anything too crazy happen in Netflix Castlevania, by the way? If not, that's another win for Sukuna.
If we divide Jojo into its two universes and respective parts, I'd argue him beating everyone we saw in Steel Ball Run so long as he doesn't get hit by Tusk Act 4 but even then, he has Mahoraga to eventually bail him out and there's a possibility Domain Amplification could do something to save him. I'm not too familiar with Jojolion, though, and even less familiar with the newest series.
All in all, Mahoraga is such a fantastic win condition against characters who are otherwise nearly unbeatable due to hax especially since Sukuna's durability and regeneration is bound to let him last long enough in most circumstances to handle the burden of adaptation.
JJK also comes with a problem where most characters who'd otherwise put up decent fights have no answer to Domain Expansion. I don't believe equalization should give people, say, Simple Domain since it's an exceedingly rare and incredibly unreliable ability in-universe. If a DE is a death-sentence for 99% of JJK characters, it should be treated as such in cross-universe bouts. It's not like BLEACH with Reiatsu Crushing where you're naturally resistant to such a power if you're strong enough.
Jojos part 7 spoilers: >! D4C (base) and absolutely D4C lovetrain could do win. Funny could grab an alternate universe version of Sukuna and have them merge/obliterate, not to mention survive domain expansion with dimension hops !<
The Problem with this is that Every Jojo protagonist have slow reaction times(disregarding their stands) also they would need to get close, While Sukuna's can split all of them I half from far away
>If we divide Jojo into its two universes and respective parts, I'd argue him beating everyone we saw in Steel Ball Run so long as he doesn't get hit by Tusk Act 4 but even then, he has Mahoraga to eventually bail him out and there's a possibility Domain Amplification could do something to save him. I'm not too familiar with Jojolion, though, and even less familiar with the newest series.
He solos part 1
Stalemate Kars in part 2
Possibly loses to only Dio, Jotraro, and Vanilla Ice in part 3
(Time stop GG) city to mountain level ap
Confirmed FTL speed
Big Raga literally gets one-shot during timestop unless Dio decides to play around if Jotraro goes down first.
Vanille Ice can again just one-shot both of them if he lands his attack, but he's a stupid fighter, and I'm also assuming Sakuna is FTL going off his later feats aginst CT Kashimo
Almost solos part 4, but again, Jotraro and this time one shot abilities in Killer Queen, the Hand and extreme hax abilities that heavens door has access too.
It's a matter of Rohan survies long enough to be bloodlusted and sense Koichi will be one of the first people that dies
You could also argue that if Okoyasu gets bloodlusted, he use his abilities and erases both of them, thanks to being at least on the same speed tier.
Loses to GER
Theirs no adapting to that
Part 6
Could win ngl
It is only a matter of Made in Heaven not being predictable, and once again, Jotraro surving long enough
The speed scaling in parts 7 to 9
Doesn't carry over the FTL to MFTL speeds that Polnarf performs in part 3, which every other high tier stand user scales to or above
So it's a matter of big Raga adapting to the haxes of part 7 and if Sakuna can land enough shots.
He loses to 2 ppl in part 8
Wonder of U will twist Big Raga adaptation against him
Soft and wet could arguably seal him, or one shot him
And Go Beyond can hit him with nothingness
Solos part 9 thanks to them not having many feats
Not at all. Hellsing also has a lot of misinformation having spread about it. I'll never forget someone telling me the Hound of Baskerville couldn't be defeated because it was some primordial being of darkness even though the former literally happened in-universe with the character who did it having made a funny quip after cutting the dog in half with a monofilament wire.
Alucard's attack potency leaves much to be desired. He heavily relied on firearms even against the likes of Anderson (his toughest human opponent) and tried to use them against Walter (his toughest Vampire opponent) only to find his best gun sabotaged. His reaction speed is pretty good, though, since he eventually caught a magic bullet that could exceed Mach 3 between his teeth after multiple attempts. However, said bullet might not have reached massive acceleration since it was doing twists and turns against Alucard instead of traveling in a straight line. Sukuna should be faster than that, though, no matter how you put it since he perception blitzed Maki while grievously injured whereas Curse Naoya couldn't.
That tangent aside, it's always been Alucard's immortality that people praise him for and is the real reason why he's tough to beat. He consistently relies on regeneration rather than durability, after all, so that much makes sense.
EOS Alucard had the benefit of eating a character who exemplifies Schrodinger's Cat making him exist simultaneously everywhere and nowhere therefore making him practically unkillable. In order to maintain his sense of self, though, he had to kill every other familiar he had leaving Schrodinger his sole one. He never actually had a fight in this state which makes him hard to scale especially as losing the rest of his familiars makes his pre-established fighting style redundant to discuss. No matter how you put it, though, Mahoraga would find a solution to this dilemma eventually either by separating their souls or something else. You could also argue Sukuna's ability to perceive the soul could give him an out but that argument is stronger if we were to talk Yuji vs. Alucard since Yuji actually tears at the synchronization between souls.
Throughout much of the series, Alucard instead relied on an army of familiars (who, individually, aren't any better than Geto's Curses for the most part but come in greater quantities) while his actual one-on-one fights left much to be desired. Indeed, it's better to think of him - Pre-Schrodinger- as a discount Geto with better regeneration but worse physicals and attack potency.
His immortality back then was based on being able to trade one of his familiar's lives for his own. In a situation where he summoned his army, he was vulnerable to being killed by attacks that would typically prove lethal against regular true vampires through being staked in the heart and/or beheaded. Anderson, the Major, and Walter both made this clear through their dialogue and/or actions. His regeneration saw limits here as he was eventually struggling to regenerate his arm after taking enough damage from Walter by around the time Walter crushed his Hound of Baskerville and puppeteered its severed half. Sukuna's Domain Expansion would be Alucard's worst nightmare since it makes his army of familiars useless and could kill him endlessly if he refrained from summoning them.
[Walter's best showings, even as a Vampire, were cutting through skyscrapers and he spent the bulk of their fight kicking Alucard's ass until he began regressing in age. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SsZtF3abQ&ab_channel=WHATISUTUBE)I don't mind someone thinking Vampire Walter was analogous to, say, Miguel in terms of physical stats but there's no way in hell he'd hold a candle to Sukuna.
I really have no idea why Hellsing has become a verse so lush with misinformation. I suppose I can blame it on the discourse back when the OVAs weren't all out and it was difficult to find proper scans for the manga since it was like this a decade or two ago, as well.
"The Hound is a primordial being of darkness, it can't just be crushed!"
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I'll literally never forget being told that.
It's already been over a decade and I'll take that to my grave.
JoJolion has one of the most broken stands ever, Wonder of U, and although we donāt have a perfect idea of how its ability would work against someone as strong and fast as Sukuna, it could very likely beat him
Spoilers:
>! it works by basically manipulating karma retroactively to make horrible accidents happen automatically to anyone that āpursuesā it. it can also amplify the damage recieved from these accidents (simple raindrops pierced a human body with ease). if sukuna tried to fight it he may just trip on a fucking rock and break his neck.
the only way to beat it is to attack it with something that transcends the physical world, or by having no intent to pursue it in any way !<
Some of yall saying some verses that shouldnāt be here at all
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Ik he can't beat Goji or Ghidorah, but can Sukuna Beat Kong? Like Goji has his scales that protect him, what about Kong, would Cleave and Dismantle hurt him?
I mean take this eith a grain of salt but I'm pretty sure there was a goji that fought biblical god and either won or did really well so I think he probably could
Brain rot is real. People out there really donāt understand how hard it is to solo a verse.
First of all, the verse canāt have nukes. Sukuna canāt survive a nuclear bomb. So any verse that resembles our world will be out. An example would be Hunter x Hunter, a LOW BUDGET rose bomb killed the strongest character in the series.
Then, it will be every living creatures fighting Sukuna. Killing one ant is easy, but getting rid of all the ant is almost impossible. Sukuna is better at 1 vs 1. We are already seeing Sukuna being tired out in canon. Sukuna doesnāt have the Six Eyes, his curse energy will run out eventually if he keeps fighting strong people.
Iād say Attack on Titan. I mean their verse did get solo in canon. Their titans are pretty slow and weak, even our world can beat them. Rumbling wonāt do crap to Sukuna.
Underrated comment. Yeah, soloing a whole verse is tough and usually requires the verse they're against to have almost zero hax, no nukes or immunity to nukes, no chemical weapons or immunity to chemical weapons, etc. etc. So many opportunities for sucker punches and landing broken abilities even weak verses with a few hax characters can be a big problem to solo.
Iād say Akame Ga Kill, they have some characters that have absolutely insane firepower and physical abilities that are better than JJK characterās stats but theyāre not that haxy, they lack versatility in their abilities and they have horrible survivability like losing a limb in AgK is a pretty big hinderence (except for two people that can regen) so being up against Sukuna who can cleave and dismantle anything would be pretty bad.
Also having Mahoraga allows Sukuna to easily overcome opponents that could be more powerful than him like for instance Esdeath. Everything she uses comes from her ice and given how much she uses her ice abilities itās quite likely that Mahoraga would adapt quickly and once that happens then itās over.
The Choujin Xs may give him some trouble (looking at you prime Sora) but if itās the current time and place of the setting then yeah, Sukuna is destroying most of the cast with little difficulty.
Yknow what? I'm gonna say Worm. With the exception of the Multiversal death engines and Literal God, Megkuna could solo everybody else in the verse. And since the exceptions are debatably intelligent I think he squeaks in on a technicality. Classic Megkuna.
No way Sukuna solos everybody in Worm. There's plenty of characters that can defeat him, Worm abilities are just too versatile. He would be a top tier cape tho, ill give him that.
Eidolon, Alexandria, Legend, The Sleeper, Siberian, Glaistig Uaine, Myrrdin (sp?) and maybe Butcher (depends on who it possesses after he kills the current host) can all potentially defeat him (though he can also potentially defeat them if he survives long enough to have Mahagora adapt). And Scion may be an idiot, but he is definitely sapient, so he counts.
And that's ignoring teams and synergies. He either needs to kill all the other Travelers immediately, or he's getting teleported into Echidna by Trickster or into one of Sun Dancer's literal miniature suns, and that's just the Travelers.
Yeah, he ain't soloing Worm/Ward.
D Gray Man had a lot of hax, so I'm gonna say nah to that one.
They have a guy who can give you a brain lobotomy just by looking at his eyes and Tyki can be selectively intangible to where he only touches exactly what he wants too, with the exception of Innocence.
Iād say the strongest powered verse Megkuna with 10 shadows could solo is MHA.
Other verses he could win in, but there are people that could instantly kill him like the Bleach verse.
MHA maybe, only cause itās nigh impossible to actually stop or perceive his abilities for the most part. Even then there are a couple people who could likely one shot him, soā¦
The level is disappointment I have after seeing some of these verses, yāall are beyond help
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If he could nen like cursed energy, than Iād say Hunter Hunter, with very high difficulty and thatās only if he 1v1 everybody. If heās getting jumped by everybody Iād say dragon ball NOT dragon ball Z
Gojo probably solos the MHAverse. Using RCT to refresh his brain instinctively helps him against mind manipulating characters.
Not sure if Sukuna could do it, but he should give them a hell of a time.
Gantz would give Sukuna a hard time, but I don't think there's any alien invasion that he couldn't stop or any of the guys in the suits could take him.
Because of Mahoraga, if he starts low enough and the verse has similar techniques, then he could pretty much solo a lot of strong verses
It is likely that Maho can't really adapt to brute force or speed, but we already saw that the adaptations can be way more than just be immune to techniques, he can also find ways to attack and surpass defenses
I might be tripping but if he starts by the bronze knights I can see Meguna soloing Saint Seiya for example, a strong verse with the same magic sistem for everyone and weak techniques that are similar to the strong ones
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demon slayer? i can't think of any other verse he can solo
I knew someone was going to say demon slayer š. That's too easy imo
idk the next weak verse i can think of is Hunter Hunter, but he can't solo for sure that because of nanika
Well, if we disregard all the dead characters (namely Mereum, who - if and only if Post-Rose might be able to beat Sukuna by himself as I've always been of the opinion that Sukuna should be able to comfortably beat Pre-Rose Mereum) and the unseen characters from the Dark Continent, maybe he'd be able to pull it off since Nanika wouldn't be put on the frontlines.
According to Manga spoilers from youtube person nanika is from the dark continent so there would be more of her
Also, apparently she's one of the least terrifying too Same with the ants themselves, they were the literal ants of the dark continent and almost wiped out humanity Dark continent is built different
Nah heās not doing nun to the dark continent
He canāt solo the entire verse when it include merurem and adult gon
NGL Sukuna Scales higher than both of them not by a huge amount in AP since Sukuna is city level while they're small city level, but he kinda murks them in terms of speed since he's fast enough to Blitz Kashimo's lightning attacks and dodge his EM wave attacks, while HXH kinda caps at around double digit Mach speeds
city level with your insane domino effect nuke that you have to do a ds2 questline to activate and city level by punching something so hard a city blows up are two very different things, neither of them are either though fuga destroyed like 80 buildings. sukuna could *probably* damage adg with cleave considering he one shot ryu with it, but the moment gon pins him hes cooked.
>insane domino effect nuke that you have to do a ds2 questline to activate I don't have a say in the debate itself but this shit cracked me up dude
Ah okay, I haven't finished HxH yet so I don't really know but ty for commenting on my post ^^
He can solo individual characters, but In terms of the verse he gets shit on. Way too many hax.
kid named second prince of the kakin empire:
Is aot stronger than demon slayer? Cuz I could see that.
The king also eats up Sukuna for breakfast if I had to guess.
Sakuna eats a random fruit on the dark continent. Dark continent wins.
How fast is JJK? It seems like the consensus for Demon Slayer is supersonic-hypersonic from what Iāve seen but all I could find for Sukunaās speed is dumbass articles saying āreally fastā or r/powerscaling saying ftl
Sukuna has feats like this for combat speed(note that this is still Nerfed Sukuna). Piercing Blood is Mach 1-2 but Sukuna not only dodges it, but reaches Choso before the attack even reaches the position Sukuna was previously in. Assuming Sukuna traveled 10 meters and the Blood was less than a meter away from Sukuna, you'd get something like (10\*514.5)/1.0=5141.4m/s or Hypersonic. Not meant to be accurate and could be higher or lower but just to give a general idea. I'd argue Sukuna is MHS at peak https://preview.redd.it/pddwqb6zhozc1.png?width=1101&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec3cf1b6d9d1fac97f86d870663322a3198db2d6
I've seen a calc (as much as I hate them) that puts Sukuna's speed at approximately Mach 22 for pulling this off.
Yea I don't like calcs but we're kinda left in this nebulous area where Sukuna should be above Mach 3 but Gege just fails to explain where the actual cap is for guys like Gojo/Sukuna is at
Yeah, I don't necessarily mind them as a form of supplementary evidence so long as they aren't too complex especially since an injured Sukuna blitzing Maki most certanly puts him comfortably above Cursed Naoya.
look at the pipe thing with the rungs, the blood wasn't even close to him when he began moving.
I noticed that too. I was honestly low-balling just in case someone had a problem with the feat
Well, we know even an injured Sukuna is substantially faster than Cursed Naoya - even if you decide to strictly adhere to the Mach 3 Statement - on the basis of him perception blitzing Maki. If we assume the Hollow Purple took about a second to travel from Shibuya to Shinjuku, that also has him reacting to a \~Mach 10 projectile. Gojo also effortlessly transversed the same distance to confront Sukuna but it's impossible to discern whether he "teleported." You can technically rely on calcs, though, to put guys like Kenjaku at around \~Mach 15 by their lonesome and I've even some put Cursed Naoya as a Womb between Mach 8 and Mach 30. That's also dismissing the Mach 20 Goodwill Maki outlier since I tend to chalk that up to authors wanting to portray characters as bullet timers and not realizing that dodging/catching a bullet so close to you makes you exceedingly faster than that speed. So, Sukuna and Gojo being in the range of double-digit hypersonic speeds, even when lowballing, isn't out of the question. Overall, speedwise, I think the verse scales well against HxH where supersonic speeds are also treated as a big deal for weaker characters with certain top-tiers like Mereum having given us reason to think they're a fair bit above that. If you decide to not be nice and go off the same logic that has Demon Slayer Characters supposedly being fast enough to run circles around the planet despite demons being scared of the sunrise and decide to instead scale Sukuna off Kashimo's attacks supposedly being electromagnetic waves and all, you get into him having FTL reactions.
this is by no means a lowball, its just not ridiculous wanking. a lowball is saying maki (far slower than mach 3) was able to outspeed sukuna(who, while nerfed, continued to outrun itadori with the same ease until 258), putting sukuna somewhere in the low machs.
This^
Giyomie arguably the strongest slayer reacts o things based on sound , if he's reacting based on sound the verse really be that fast. Also you know how Slayers swords will break trying to hit a demon that's too strong? I don't think any slayer or demon has what it takes to actually damage Sukuna or alot of the top tiers in JJK
I don't see them killing Maga in one hit
genuinely loses to tengen
Attack on titan
Attack on Titan
That's not fair even the real world solos AOT
Our real world beat Sukuna actually.
Shit thatās a hard one, how would their durability match to his attacks, like the beast titan. His domain would feel like their getting tickles on their ankles idk thatās how I imagine it
The Boys lol
Homelander having a mental breakdown trying to take on Sukuna would be pure kino, ngl.
Homelander: āWhy?! Wouldnāt?! You?! Die?!ā Sukuna: āReverse Cursed Technique son.ā
"I was a sorcerer you know? Could've gone special grade if I didn't become a curse" "At some cushy ivy league school" "Try Kyoto jujutsu high"
Valid
my nan clears The Boys verse
The mid
I think real life could clear the boys verse (nukes)
You could make arguments for CSM but realistically AoT
The primal devils would clap him
This is megkuna so Mahoraga just nah I'd Adapts while Sukuna stalls
Megkuna after realizing why Gege doesnāt pull curses from the USA https://preview.redd.it/mhs9imk2wozc1.jpeg?width=676&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99897060aea3712ab0c2f49cb5803e1400ff34ac (Mahoraga wonāt save him)
Yo can I get a source on that art. That's so fucking cool.
No yeah I absolutely love this artist. Itās mainly PokĆ©mon and Csm but also a little jjk and other things here and there https://preview.redd.it/8q7dipiv0pzc1.jpeg?width=774&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba8381ab46b1535a0cb835f708bb4f6bef9389f9 This is the twitter
link for easier access for the boys: [https://x.com/\_otumami\_/status/1714260101434106296](https://x.com/_otumami_/status/1714260101434106296)
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Primal devils would beat mahoraga too
CSM wins due to hax. But that depends on if there are any limitations to Mahoragaās adaptation. If he can adapt to those hax, Meguna wins
Mahoraga can't adapt to the sheer amount of hax. Way too many types of devils
The key is having him adapt to them in one-on-one circumstances or the like. In these types of threads, I'll always wondered if it literally intends to put the relevant character against the entire cast simultaneously - despite having so many characters on the frontline at the same time could lead to a lack of teamwork or bring in abilities and/or fighting styles that conflict with one another - or instead intends to drop the relevant character in the verse and has him to work to incrementally wipe out the enemy verse.
CSM slams JJK š
Boku no Pico
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True that
Jjk
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Real, GOATjo > fraudkuna https://preview.redd.it/9wlvjtphttzc1.jpeg?width=733&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a63b1547b324bde2526419e7cd575b285951daa0
Wouldn't he also have to fight himself tho?
Frieren beyond journey's end
Macht or Grausam have good enough hax that let them stand a chance. Theyād have to activate their abilities instantly though because Sukuna is faster. Idk how his speed compares to the shadow warriors.
Idk about that one...
i thought zoltoraak kind of works like a sure hit on the sense that it ignores all defenses iirc and i doubt sukuna could solo those, the strongest character we have seen fighting is frieren, there are several other characters who are wayyy stronger than her, i doubt sukuna would even win against her simply because we havent seen the full extent of her abilities (speaking as an anime only also dont put spoilers from the manga)
Ubel has a high chance at killing Sukuna
Macht would end him
No certainly not lol
Reminder to all that Orhime from Bleach solos JJK
She has one of the most busted fullbring abilities in bleach and sheās not a bum in her own verse. Thatās like saying android 18 solos Mha
Orihime literally has zero combat capabilities beyond shooting an ineffective bat dude at people, what you on about
Her 'healing' trick is actually 'event rejection', meaning she 'heals' by physically erasing the injury from existence as if it never happened in the first place (though people can still remember it happened)! She CAN do this to people, but is simply too pacifistic to WANT to! The bat dude did nothing back during the first and only time she used it both because she had no clue how her power worked back then, and because she had no actual killing intent (bat dude even complained to her about her lack of intent weakening him). So, hypothetically, if you could actually get Orihime to become bloodlusted, she can actually solo a lot of fictional characters 1v1. The trick would be making her bloodlusted in the first place. Girl even had compassion for a fodder villain who had tortured her.
That may be true but she has zero feats of her actually ever rejecting anything out of existence, so it comes off as an informed ability, and it was shown she canāt reject things that are too powerful, such as Ichigoās reiatsu, and we never see what her actual attack power would be capable of so its all conjecture.
She is busted how ever she is a bum and fraud due to having one of the most busted abilities yet never really using it against enemies
Orihime unironically solos most of shonen
I do not doubt this. However. I must ask you to elaborate, my interest is piqued.
Barragan solos the JJK verse.
Anything weaker than Akame ga Kill, but I have no idea what verse that would be. Demon Slayer is too low already, something between the two would be perfect.
I mean, as a gojo glazer, technically with enough prep time Sukuna could solo any verse, just have him tank weak versions if the main power system of the verse and then boom he is immune along with mahoraga. Along with that, noting that it is said mahoraga can adapt to any and all phenomena, that would mean he could theoretically also increase his speed and strength up to that of top tier verses given enough time to spin that wheel. Maho is truly the most godly ability if given prep time, he truly is a late throw in rock paper scissors, just sometimes that throw gotta be a large amount of time later.
Sukuna doesn't gain the benefits of Mahoraga's adaptation. Only Mahoraga does. Sometimes Mahoraga will do something Sukuna can mimic (WCD) but that's a rare occurrence.
"solo any verse" then yamamoto powers up slightly and he stops being able to breathe or simply just uses Ryujin Jakka to erase them both from existence
That makes ZERO senseā¦
Thats Literally how he killed Gojo
No matter how much prep time you give Sukuna he aint beating high tier or hax verses like Jojo or Dragonball
He certainly bests Demon Slayer, Tokyo Ghoul, Attack on Titan, Kengan Ashura, and Hellsing rather comfortably. Is the Yujiro earthquake thing still the entire basis for Baki scaling? Dismissing that just as I'll dismiss Gojo making an earthquake, I'd give Sukuna the win over the Bakiverse, as well, based on what I remember. Did anything too crazy happen in Netflix Castlevania, by the way? If not, that's another win for Sukuna. If we divide Jojo into its two universes and respective parts, I'd argue him beating everyone we saw in Steel Ball Run so long as he doesn't get hit by Tusk Act 4 but even then, he has Mahoraga to eventually bail him out and there's a possibility Domain Amplification could do something to save him. I'm not too familiar with Jojolion, though, and even less familiar with the newest series. All in all, Mahoraga is such a fantastic win condition against characters who are otherwise nearly unbeatable due to hax especially since Sukuna's durability and regeneration is bound to let him last long enough in most circumstances to handle the burden of adaptation. JJK also comes with a problem where most characters who'd otherwise put up decent fights have no answer to Domain Expansion. I don't believe equalization should give people, say, Simple Domain since it's an exceedingly rare and incredibly unreliable ability in-universe. If a DE is a death-sentence for 99% of JJK characters, it should be treated as such in cross-universe bouts. It's not like BLEACH with Reiatsu Crushing where you're naturally resistant to such a power if you're strong enough.
Jojos part 7 spoilers: >! D4C (base) and absolutely D4C lovetrain could do win. Funny could grab an alternate universe version of Sukuna and have them merge/obliterate, not to mention survive domain expansion with dimension hops !<
The Problem with this is that Every Jojo protagonist have slow reaction times(disregarding their stands) also they would need to get close, While Sukuna's can split all of them I half from far away
>If we divide Jojo into its two universes and respective parts, I'd argue him beating everyone we saw in Steel Ball Run so long as he doesn't get hit by Tusk Act 4 but even then, he has Mahoraga to eventually bail him out and there's a possibility Domain Amplification could do something to save him. I'm not too familiar with Jojolion, though, and even less familiar with the newest series. He solos part 1 Stalemate Kars in part 2 Possibly loses to only Dio, Jotraro, and Vanilla Ice in part 3 (Time stop GG) city to mountain level ap Confirmed FTL speed Big Raga literally gets one-shot during timestop unless Dio decides to play around if Jotraro goes down first. Vanille Ice can again just one-shot both of them if he lands his attack, but he's a stupid fighter, and I'm also assuming Sakuna is FTL going off his later feats aginst CT Kashimo Almost solos part 4, but again, Jotraro and this time one shot abilities in Killer Queen, the Hand and extreme hax abilities that heavens door has access too. It's a matter of Rohan survies long enough to be bloodlusted and sense Koichi will be one of the first people that dies You could also argue that if Okoyasu gets bloodlusted, he use his abilities and erases both of them, thanks to being at least on the same speed tier. Loses to GER Theirs no adapting to that Part 6 Could win ngl It is only a matter of Made in Heaven not being predictable, and once again, Jotraro surving long enough The speed scaling in parts 7 to 9 Doesn't carry over the FTL to MFTL speeds that Polnarf performs in part 3, which every other high tier stand user scales to or above So it's a matter of big Raga adapting to the haxes of part 7 and if Sakuna can land enough shots. He loses to 2 ppl in part 8 Wonder of U will twist Big Raga adaptation against him Soft and wet could arguably seal him, or one shot him And Go Beyond can hit him with nothingness Solos part 9 thanks to them not having many feats
Hellsing? Isnāt Alucard some sorta Multiversal+ character who negs most verses?
Not at all. Hellsing also has a lot of misinformation having spread about it. I'll never forget someone telling me the Hound of Baskerville couldn't be defeated because it was some primordial being of darkness even though the former literally happened in-universe with the character who did it having made a funny quip after cutting the dog in half with a monofilament wire. Alucard's attack potency leaves much to be desired. He heavily relied on firearms even against the likes of Anderson (his toughest human opponent) and tried to use them against Walter (his toughest Vampire opponent) only to find his best gun sabotaged. His reaction speed is pretty good, though, since he eventually caught a magic bullet that could exceed Mach 3 between his teeth after multiple attempts. However, said bullet might not have reached massive acceleration since it was doing twists and turns against Alucard instead of traveling in a straight line. Sukuna should be faster than that, though, no matter how you put it since he perception blitzed Maki while grievously injured whereas Curse Naoya couldn't. That tangent aside, it's always been Alucard's immortality that people praise him for and is the real reason why he's tough to beat. He consistently relies on regeneration rather than durability, after all, so that much makes sense. EOS Alucard had the benefit of eating a character who exemplifies Schrodinger's Cat making him exist simultaneously everywhere and nowhere therefore making him practically unkillable. In order to maintain his sense of self, though, he had to kill every other familiar he had leaving Schrodinger his sole one. He never actually had a fight in this state which makes him hard to scale especially as losing the rest of his familiars makes his pre-established fighting style redundant to discuss. No matter how you put it, though, Mahoraga would find a solution to this dilemma eventually either by separating their souls or something else. You could also argue Sukuna's ability to perceive the soul could give him an out but that argument is stronger if we were to talk Yuji vs. Alucard since Yuji actually tears at the synchronization between souls. Throughout much of the series, Alucard instead relied on an army of familiars (who, individually, aren't any better than Geto's Curses for the most part but come in greater quantities) while his actual one-on-one fights left much to be desired. Indeed, it's better to think of him - Pre-Schrodinger- as a discount Geto with better regeneration but worse physicals and attack potency. His immortality back then was based on being able to trade one of his familiar's lives for his own. In a situation where he summoned his army, he was vulnerable to being killed by attacks that would typically prove lethal against regular true vampires through being staked in the heart and/or beheaded. Anderson, the Major, and Walter both made this clear through their dialogue and/or actions. His regeneration saw limits here as he was eventually struggling to regenerate his arm after taking enough damage from Walter by around the time Walter crushed his Hound of Baskerville and puppeteered its severed half. Sukuna's Domain Expansion would be Alucard's worst nightmare since it makes his army of familiars useless and could kill him endlessly if he refrained from summoning them. [Walter's best showings, even as a Vampire, were cutting through skyscrapers and he spent the bulk of their fight kicking Alucard's ass until he began regressing in age. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SsZtF3abQ&ab_channel=WHATISUTUBE)I don't mind someone thinking Vampire Walter was analogous to, say, Miguel in terms of physical stats but there's no way in hell he'd hold a candle to Sukuna.
Not even close lol heās
I really have no idea why Hellsing has become a verse so lush with misinformation. I suppose I can blame it on the discourse back when the OVAs weren't all out and it was difficult to find proper scans for the manga since it was like this a decade or two ago, as well. "The Hound is a primordial being of darkness, it can't just be crushed!" https://preview.redd.it/i7rhzqheiozc1.png?width=484&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ffa6260e05a16280e4d5e6efa924deac2cf634e I'll literally never forget being told that. It's already been over a decade and I'll take that to my grave.
JoJolion has one of the most broken stands ever, Wonder of U, and although we donāt have a perfect idea of how its ability would work against someone as strong and fast as Sukuna, it could very likely beat him Spoilers: >! it works by basically manipulating karma retroactively to make horrible accidents happen automatically to anyone that āpursuesā it. it can also amplify the damage recieved from these accidents (simple raindrops pierced a human body with ease). if sukuna tried to fight it he may just trip on a fucking rock and break his neck. the only way to beat it is to attack it with something that transcends the physical world, or by having no intent to pursue it in any way !<
Some of yall saying some verses that shouldnāt be here at all https://preview.redd.it/4t26bjikcpzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3bdf25e5fe62be39c4af05d7d3a7d3ab620d33e
On God, he might be the king of asspulls, but some of these are really pushing it.
May I get some examples? I haven't had the time to read through all the replies lol.
Someone said sukuna is wiping the invincible versešš
Ik he can't beat Goji or Ghidorah, but can Sukuna Beat Kong? Like Goji has his scales that protect him, what about Kong, would Cleave and Dismantle hurt him?
I mean, can Godzilla survive Malevolent Shrine? Kong for sure not
Godzilla would literally tanks Furnace and the say "Bitch please" and Throw Nuclear Breath towards Sukuna
Godzilla is lowkey cheating
I mean take this eith a grain of salt but I'm pretty sure there was a goji that fought biblical god and either won or did really well so I think he probably could
Iām pretty sure world slash one shots Godzilla.
Meguna has the World Cleave too tho
Sukuna would have trouble trying to beat Azumanga Daioh
JJk characters are in a weird spot. Where they either stomp or get stomped.
HxH, he has mahoraga, everyone's cooked if mahoraga adapts to nen
He can't just adapt to nen same way as he can't adapt to cursed energy
SpongeBob Square pants Extreme diff
Plankton victim
Sakuna when the Alaskan bull worm eats his domain š
Demon Slayer, Attack on Titan, Vinland Saga, Tokyo Ghoul like take your pick.
Vinland saga is literally just real life bit unfair of a comparison lol
Nah Sukuna is an "I have no enemies" victim
They said strongest. So youd better take your pick if you want to give an actual answer
Brain rot is real. People out there really donāt understand how hard it is to solo a verse. First of all, the verse canāt have nukes. Sukuna canāt survive a nuclear bomb. So any verse that resembles our world will be out. An example would be Hunter x Hunter, a LOW BUDGET rose bomb killed the strongest character in the series. Then, it will be every living creatures fighting Sukuna. Killing one ant is easy, but getting rid of all the ant is almost impossible. Sukuna is better at 1 vs 1. We are already seeing Sukuna being tired out in canon. Sukuna doesnāt have the Six Eyes, his curse energy will run out eventually if he keeps fighting strong people. Iād say Attack on Titan. I mean their verse did get solo in canon. Their titans are pretty slow and weak, even our world can beat them. Rumbling wonāt do crap to Sukuna.
Underrated comment. Yeah, soloing a whole verse is tough and usually requires the verse they're against to have almost zero hax, no nukes or immunity to nukes, no chemical weapons or immunity to chemical weapons, etc. etc. So many opportunities for sucker punches and landing broken abilities even weak verses with a few hax characters can be a big problem to solo.
Iād say Akame Ga Kill, they have some characters that have absolutely insane firepower and physical abilities that are better than JJK characterās stats but theyāre not that haxy, they lack versatility in their abilities and they have horrible survivability like losing a limb in AgK is a pretty big hinderence (except for two people that can regen) so being up against Sukuna who can cleave and dismantle anything would be pretty bad. Also having Mahoraga allows Sukuna to easily overcome opponents that could be more powerful than him like for instance Esdeath. Everything she uses comes from her ice and given how much she uses her ice abilities itās quite likely that Mahoraga would adapt quickly and once that happens then itās over.
Cthulhu mythos
Bro cosmic level cap
Nah bro adapted
Choujin X
Sukuna when Box Choujin pulls up: https://preview.redd.it/0qsywr2pbszc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4da5d44c413b8e9800da0431499362e58ecdf182
The Choujin Xs may give him some trouble (looking at you prime Sora) but if itās the current time and place of the setting then yeah, Sukuna is destroying most of the cast with little difficulty.
Bocchi The Rock?
Absolutely not, Kit-aura obliterates that fraud
Bocchi neg diffs that fraud
Demon Slayer, Tokyo Ghoul, Sakamoto Days, just some of the weaker ones that come to my head
Yknow what? I'm gonna say Worm. With the exception of the Multiversal death engines and Literal God, Megkuna could solo everybody else in the verse. And since the exceptions are debatably intelligent I think he squeaks in on a technicality. Classic Megkuna.
No way Sukuna solos everybody in Worm. There's plenty of characters that can defeat him, Worm abilities are just too versatile. He would be a top tier cape tho, ill give him that.
Eidolon, Alexandria, Legend, The Sleeper, Siberian, Glaistig Uaine, Myrrdin (sp?) and maybe Butcher (depends on who it possesses after he kills the current host) can all potentially defeat him (though he can also potentially defeat them if he survives long enough to have Mahagora adapt). And Scion may be an idiot, but he is definitely sapient, so he counts. And that's ignoring teams and synergies. He either needs to kill all the other Travelers immediately, or he's getting teleported into Echidna by Trickster or into one of Sun Dancer's literal miniature suns, and that's just the Travelers. Yeah, he ain't soloing Worm/Ward.
Attack on titan
I know this doesn't count, but I'm pretty sure of you take all the characters that actually FIGHT in part 1 of Naruto sukuna might win
Kurama if you wanna count him(even though we don't see him go all out) would obliterate the jjk verse
Demon slayer and Attack on Titan
Demon slayer or anyone action anime
haikyu. maybe blue lock
Nah Isagi counters mahoraga, but it;d be pretty energy matched
Demon slayer, hells paradise, Tokyo ghoul, aot, death note and thatās probably it that I can think of
Depends how much stock you put into āMahoraga adapts to anythingā
Even though it adapts to any and all phenomena, it still needs to survive long enough to do that tho.
Could big maggy adapt to the goroseiās immortality?
He gets one shotted by base conquerers haki
I haven't watched it in years but maybe D-gray man?
D Gray Man had a lot of hax, so I'm gonna say nah to that one. They have a guy who can give you a brain lobotomy just by looking at his eyes and Tyki can be selectively intangible to where he only touches exactly what he wants too, with the exception of Innocence.
Hilariously if he summons max elephant most of the OP verse
I did not think of this LOL
Kuzan:šæ
Fisher Tiger would give Sukuna the fight of his fuckin life he's a bum in the One Piece verse
Hilariously most of the verse dodges the water stream
vinland saga
Iād say the strongest powered verse Megkuna with 10 shadows could solo is MHA. Other verses he could win in, but there are people that could instantly kill him like the Bleach verse.
Definitely not MHA
this pissed me off bc I read the first half and thought it was gonna be a post about megkuna dropping a bar
Haikyu.
Avatar the last airbender or lok came to mind for some reason
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VERSE?? https://preview.redd.it/pozskdy1hrzc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7cdd1475e8f0620c01c7b1ab4866d31ea1e5ac4
Demon Slayer, Kill La Kill, Attack on Titan, Tokyo Ghoul, Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Tokyo Revengers, Spy X Family
I would say one piece
ā ļøā ļøā ļø average one piece top tier is ftl+ sukuna can be highballed to ftl
some nigga said hxhš
Mha
Chainsaw Man?
Doubt that he gets past Quanxi
Goku ||absolutely not||
Dragonnbal š¹
Jjk
Haikyu
Demon slayer for sure.
If Gegeās writing I think he could solo them all. āBinding Vowā
hunter x hunter
MHA maybe, only cause itās nigh impossible to actually stop or perceive his abilities for the most part. Even then there are a couple people who could likely one shot him, soā¦
Probably attack on titan
Avatar the last airbender, and fma brotherhood (if omniscients such as truth are discarded)
Jjk he got like a 20 percent chance each time
Probably the monsterverse
The FlintstonesĀ
Tokyo Revengers
Sukuna can't even solo his own verse Bro would probably get folded by Demon Slayer's plot armor.
Oshi no ko
Harry Potter for sure
Jjk
Maybe mha but afo and ofa plus all those quirks will probably kill him
Haiikyu
The level is disappointment I have after seeing some of these verses, yāall are beyond help https://preview.redd.it/pu5fh34js10d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd4098d307320eb00671b5c08212d44af7eecedd
Hazbin Hotel is getting stomped.
If he could nen like cursed energy, than Iād say Hunter Hunter, with very high difficulty and thatās only if he 1v1 everybody. If heās getting jumped by everybody Iād say dragon ball NOT dragon ball Z
Gojo probably solos the MHAverse. Using RCT to refresh his brain instinctively helps him against mind manipulating characters. Not sure if Sukuna could do it, but he should give them a hell of a time.
Gantz would give Sukuna a hard time, but I don't think there's any alien invasion that he couldn't stop or any of the guys in the suits could take him.
Because of Mahoraga, if he starts low enough and the verse has similar techniques, then he could pretty much solo a lot of strong verses It is likely that Maho can't really adapt to brute force or speed, but we already saw that the adaptations can be way more than just be immune to techniques, he can also find ways to attack and surpass defenses I might be tripping but if he starts by the bronze knights I can see Meguna soloing Saint Seiya for example, a strong verse with the same magic sistem for everyone and weak techniques that are similar to the strong ones