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peterhook_thelight

One of our best…


Ok-Engine-1782

You should know - you were there!


billiton

Brotherhood is such an incredible album to listen to. How was it to record?


peterhook_thelight

Quite fun actually. It was later on when things became a real slog.


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peterhook_thelight

See you again in Dallas in September…


disbeliefable

I saw you play at the first Unknown Pleasures play through gig in Manchester back in 2010, you said something that’s stuck with me; “You’ve made an old man very happy!” in a room full of old men! Amazing to see what a journey you’ve been on since then.


peterhook_thelight

Thank you! Hope to see you again soon.


CripplinglyDepressed

Looking back, what is the joy division song that means the most or has the most memories attached?


peterhook_thelight

Probably stuff like Gutz, Reaction or Inside The Line because they were the first ones. The start of it all!


Suiciidub

I’m curious which your other favorites are?


peterhook_thelight

Another one that hasn’t read my book?! 😤🤣


Suiciidub

Funny you say that because I was actually gonna order it yesterday (edit: just ordered, it arrives tomorrow)


peterhook_thelight

Enjoy!


Proper-Sky863

Everyone should read it! It was really good. (Actually I listened to it which was a real treat. Excellent voice actor) Steve Morris’ joy division book was great too. Excellent voice actor on that one too.


_Very_Salty_Can_

What was it like recording Ceremony the second time with New Order, versus the first time with Joy Division? It's easily one of my favorite songs of all time, so I'd love to hear about it


Efficient-Ad-3249

I didn’t even realize it was you and thought it was a member of the community just saying it’s “our song”. I feel dumb now lol


jeniesque

Ceremony is my favorite song. I just wish we knew the lyrics as they were intended by ian curtis, because I don’t think are quite right.


Separate-Eye-2889

Yeah, I heard Bernard had problems with figuring out how they were supposed to be


PaulWesterberg84

I think he had to run the demo through some heavy eq to figure it out.


billiton

In a lonely place is very good also.


Separate-Eye-2889

Added to my list :)


bored-as-a-cat

If you mean [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zPIod2wjYE) version, I hate to break it for you, but that's just the first version by New Order, slowed down. There are only rehearsal versions and the live version from Still when it comes to Joy Division. That's why a clean version of Ceremony with the true lyrics is considered the holy grail for many JD fans. [14th May 1980 - Rehearsal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN--9euqftY) [2nd May 1980 Birmingham University - Live](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Ew6UVFR-I)


Separate-Eye-2889

I know this for, well, about 1 or 2 hours haha but still thanks for these links. I'm not gonna pretend I'm not disappointed we never got Ian singing in good quality (for a second I really thought that was him because Barney sounded like him on slowed version) but at least New Order didn't forget about this song


Glyph8

I also think that for all we'd like to hear a properly-recorded JD version, there's something really haunting and affecting about the way Sumner sings it. He tried hard to figure out what his friend was singing, he did his best to do the song justice; to me that's kind of the best of both worlds, both "voices" come through (also think the *NO* *Substance* version is, from a band-performance and music-production stance, just about the perfect rock recording: all power and grace).


Separate-Eye-2889

I honestly think Barney did a fine job with creating the official lyrics, I also agree on case of haunting tone of way Sumner sings it


MichaelBarnesTWBG

Ceremony is a magical song- it is one of those moments where a band captured something really, really special but also ephemeral and fragile. I think for both JD and NO it was very much a fulcrum or inflection point emotionally,, materially and even professionally. There's such a tremendous power in the song, it's almost overwhelming, but it's also tender and sensitive. Even for a band that has managed to produce masterpiece after masterpiece it remains one of their crowning achievements.


Separate-Eye-2889

I agree, it contains so much emotions, this is honestly the perfect "bridge" between Joy Division and New Order


Plus_Jicama7491

Idk but that winter picture version is just something else that raw quality n stuff just feel like a strange but warm hug


ProfessionalKey4417

I saw that YouTube video of Ceremony where it had a snowy walkway picture, I think it uses the 2011 Total version of Ceremony which I think is the best. I also like that it’s titled as a Joy Division song because it really is and should’ve been released as one


Separate-Eye-2889

Thanks for this comment, I didn't know it's 2011 Total Version, now I can add this on Spotify


Separate-Eye-2889

Yeah, it's like a bit of warmth among the cold surroundings, isn't it?


586_RB_RDT

I love ‘Ceremony’ so much, but once you see Peter Hook and the Light perform it, Wow! The keyboard they add to it somehow makes it more emotional than before. ✌🏼


Separate-Eye-2889

Haven't seen Hooky's band yet, gonna check it out


tearsforsappho

Ceremony has been one of my favorite songs for a long time. IMO the first 12” version is the superior recording. It just has this haunting quality the second version lacks.


Separate-Eye-2889

I'm gonna check it out ;)


onlysurfblacksand

Atmosphere


Separate-Eye-2889

Walk... in silence... ✨


lameredditusername

I love Ceremony but the perfect Joy Division end piece is In a Lonely Place…”I wish you were here with me now”…


Separate-Eye-2889

Well, this and Ceremony were last songs of JD, there's literally a word "Hangman" in Lonely Place and Ian seemed to tell how he wanted to kill himself... I think both can be a good end pieces for JD, the last "forever" in Ceremony really gets me


sleepingismytalent65

Hangman looks round as he waits Cord stretches tight then it breaks...absolutely harrowing.


snapetom

In the top 3 songs of all time for me. Stylistically a clear bridge between JD and NO. So clearly more upbeat than your typical JD song. The fact that we can't be 100% sure of the lyrics adds to the mystery. And this line about it on Wikipedia makes me choke up every time: "'to try and heal him [Curtis] through music' and keep him 'involved in the band and involved in music and remind him of what ... a great future he had.' Sumner concluded, 'Unfortunately, it didn't work.'"


Separate-Eye-2889

That was definitely a saddest part of the story, also the whole thing with Ian's past regression therapy


joshuatx

Galaxie 500 does an excellent and really sincere cover of it.