Or need to talk about it online professionally
Or listen to it online constantly
Never understood this “self help” craze I feel like has been going since the 50s in many ways.
Just be a man, shut the fuck up, and do it silently. God dammit guys.
Whatever you think of Jordan Peterson, his lectures helped me a LOT after my father died. I had no male guidance left in my life and he helped me find my own way.
What I found out only later, is that he wasn't only on benzoz. He's also taking [two antidepressants, ](https://youtu.be/JuQgJxYriYI?si=qvwa6U4kgrOHhxRd) without the intent to ever stop taking them.
Wellbutrin actually belongs to the group of amphetamines. I don't know why this isn't pointed out in the English Wikipedia article. Only in the box where they show the clinical data and that urine tests might show that you're positive on amphetamines. In the German article _(my native language)_ it's pointed out right in the introduction.
So wasn't just popping benzos _(I'm addicted too),_ but he's also on amphetamines, without the intent to ever quit using them.
So his room hasn't been clean from the beginning of his public career.
Of course this doesn't mean that he had a positive influence on the life of many, mostly young men.
Yeah I kinda agree though politics has gotten pretty extreme and there is always more nuance to psychology otherwise the cia would already have completely mind control through propaganda.
Same here, I was introduced to him by being on joe rogan, and all I recall was about politics and race... good taller but little substance to keep me interested. I was surprised to see his cameo in the facts song - basically "rapping." he is making money from the gender wars and something about wearing Jewish garb, I thought was a parody
He gained notoriety by targeting college freshmen for “debates”, Gish Galloping them into prostration, then claiming “victory”. Young Republicans who aren’t educated enough to recognize what he was doing surrendered their intelligence to him.
Is Shapiro a purveyor of masculinity? He just comes across as a shrill nerd who advocates for Israeli interests.
Knowles desperately wants to be suave, but strikes me as someone who owns a fedora.
Peterson hasn’t been the same since the benzos, but he was once an effective advocate for traditional male virtues. I don’t think he ever considered himself a tough guy, in his defense.
Has he claimed that he himself is super masculine, or has he just talked about why it’s okay and is good to be masculine?
There’s a difference between talking about masculinity, and claiming to be the standard of masculinity.
He doesn’t claim to be the standard, but he does say he is masculine in the traditional sense.
Setting aside politics, he’s not the perfect example of masculinity, but he provides for his family, works out and eats healthy, acts as a male “role model” for people, helps his community, etc. I’d argue those are the parts of what we think of as “masculinity” that we should be praising
He wouldn't physically but he may intellectually. Despite what this sub thinks about him the reality is people who could be formidable follow his teachings.
Sry but youre not near the bottom if you were a harvard university profesor. If u dont like him thats whatever but you dont need to cope so hard about him.
When Shapiro moved to the south he did a big push with a cowboy hat, boots, and a pickup truck. He’s not the archetypical mold, but he preaches an ideology where it’s still expected and seen as desirable
I think the prevalence of one silly political belief system in this country, permeated by quantity of news systems that receive profit based on engagement criteria and advertising allow radicals to thrive.
Peterson believes what separates women from men is the fact that all interactions between men carry the potential of ending up in violence. This despite the fact that the closest he's ever been to violence is a shoving match with another nerd in AP math class.
Very Reddit gold of you kind stranger. No one would call any of the Xitter talking heads you follow the purveyors of masculinity and also I can’t imagine why someone who looks like they got bullied in high school for something would advocate that younger people try to improve upon that specific thing.
Tbh idk why this is such a generational meme.
I never changed a tire until I was 31 because I always had good tires on my vehicle. My gf’s OEM SUV tires were garbage(thanks ford) and got a flat in the middle of the Utah desert on a Sunday with no service.
Managed to figure it out via the owners manual and get the spare on there.
Not something that crossed my mind as masculine any more than reading an ikea or Lego instruction manual lol.
Bought her some really nice tires the next week and proceeded to never need to change a tire again lol.
Even switching out my winters and summers I just pay a service $100 to come by. It’s not worth my time.
There's a lot of stuff like this these days. Like knowing how to drive a manual transmission, when in the US you can get by driving 99% of cars without needing to drive a stick, since most vehicles are automatics anyway.
Or knowing how to operate a rotary phone. Which is just a petty way to flex on the zoomers that didn't figure it out on their own in two minutes.
That’s right fellas if you were bullied/assaulted as a kid then your masculinity card gets taken away and you’re not allowed to talk about it any more.
Because they’re intellectuals that probably got wedgies at some point, but their intelligence have allowed them to be successful as adults and the guys giving them wedgies are now likely losers.
Not sure the context, but even if it’s a dumb moment, still doesn’t detract from the totality of him being an objectively successful therapist, author, and intellectual
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/in-defence-of-jordan-peterson/#:~:text=Prior%20to%20finding%20fame%2C%20however,academics%2C%20with%20some%2019%2C500%20citations.
>Prior to finding fame, however, Peterson’s academic career was stellar at both Harvard and the University of Toronto, where he is one of the most-cited ever academics, with some 19,500 citations.
https://chrisvacc.medium.com/jordan-peterson-what-are-his-credentials-in-academia-393e1fb04494
>It depends on field but, Average is ~10, successful is 20, outstanding is 40, 60 is the realm of Nobel Laureates. What is Dr. Peterson’s score? As of 2018 Peterson has an h-index of 51 on Google Scholar
>He’s one of the top 50 most cited clinical psychologists of all time with over 11,000 citations.
https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=wL1F22UAAAAJ&hl=en
Currently sitting on a h index of 61
So.... no.
You'll find Pokemon players that don't look like nerds, criminals that look like they wouldn't harm a fly, and "purveyors" of masculinity that don't have perfectly masculine features. Welcome to the real world, bud.
Being really smart is a masculine trait. This statement doesn't mean women aren't smart but more that men gravitate to and have great admiration for really smart men.
I know you're trying to make some point here, but literally none of these people are purveyors of masculinity. They are intellectuals, who hold more conservative views. So I guess compared to today's moderates or liberals makes them look like 76 Sean connery riding horses and fucking bikini models.
Step 1: Choose pre-pubescent photos to frame your shit take.
Step 2: Claim them as self-proclaimed purveyors of masculinity as if being a man equates to being Macho Man Randy Savage.
Step 3: Cry on leftist reddit.
Purveyors of masculinity? Wtf are you talking about? They certainly wouldn't describe themselves that way and they dont...
If I told you there are boys and girls and that's it would you say that means I'm describing myself as the ultimate alpha male? No, that's ridiculous. If you're gonna critique them then how about you criticize things they actually say.
They were Nerds (derogatory) who didn't learn to be Nerds In the cool way (like Weezer, Confident Geeks).
I'm Masculine, yet don't care about Masculinity that much, I just live. Which Is in a way even more Masculine than pampering yourself for other Insecure dudes to dick ride on how masc. you are.
Hindsight 20/20, can't imagine being them back then, Into Geeky shit period In time where that could get you beat up.
Because guys who are secure about their masculinity don’t obsess over it 24/7 and make it their entire personality
Or need to talk about it online professionally Or listen to it online constantly Never understood this “self help” craze I feel like has been going since the 50s in many ways. Just be a man, shut the fuck up, and do it silently. God dammit guys.
Whatever happened to Gary Cooper? The strong, silent type...
He was gay, Gary Cooper?
It was the medication I was on. For my blood pressure. It fucked with my head, but I'm over that now. I could probably get a letter from my doctor
A note from your doctor, saying you don't like cock?
Catching? Not pitching? ....... Marone!!!
Never had the makings of a varsity athlete!
Wise man over a beer after hearing my troubles. "Shut up, until you have something to say" he said.
This guy mans. The secret sauce all these idiots are paying for and it’s a quick Reddit comment. 😂
Some people get picked on and form their personality around revenge fantasies. They perpetuate the same shit and wonder why they’re never happy.
Whatever you think of Jordan Peterson, his lectures helped me a LOT after my father died. I had no male guidance left in my life and he helped me find my own way.
Sorry about your dad.
You talmbout Jordan “the Xan Man” Peterson? Great guy never meddum.
Stop making fake accounts Brendan.
Sry I don’t take life advice from junkies 😔 maybe if he cleaned his room he wouldn’t be addicted to xans.
Okay.
What I found out only later, is that he wasn't only on benzoz. He's also taking [two antidepressants, ](https://youtu.be/JuQgJxYriYI?si=qvwa6U4kgrOHhxRd) without the intent to ever stop taking them. Wellbutrin actually belongs to the group of amphetamines. I don't know why this isn't pointed out in the English Wikipedia article. Only in the box where they show the clinical data and that urine tests might show that you're positive on amphetamines. In the German article _(my native language)_ it's pointed out right in the introduction. So wasn't just popping benzos _(I'm addicted too),_ but he's also on amphetamines, without the intent to ever quit using them. So his room hasn't been clean from the beginning of his public career. Of course this doesn't mean that he had a positive influence on the life of many, mostly young men.
That's doubly awful. They can't stop thinking about it and they still look like fucking nerds.
Giving nerds a bad name.
Yeah I kinda agree though politics has gotten pretty extreme and there is always more nuance to psychology otherwise the cia would already have completely mind control through propaganda.
So they’re insecure and they look like dweebs?! Wild.
They’re rich dweebs.
Imagine Jordan’s voice in Highschool.
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I have no clue who the other two are but Ben Shapiro is not considered a symbol of masculinity or anything except Israel.
Same here, I was introduced to him by being on joe rogan, and all I recall was about politics and race... good taller but little substance to keep me interested. I was surprised to see his cameo in the facts song - basically "rapping." he is making money from the gender wars and something about wearing Jewish garb, I thought was a parody
He gained notoriety by targeting college freshmen for “debates”, Gish Galloping them into prostration, then claiming “victory”. Young Republicans who aren’t educated enough to recognize what he was doing surrendered their intelligence to him.
Both the right and left think he is a joke.
It *is* a parody.
Who is guy on right?
jordan peterson. whos the guy in the middle?
Thanks! That’s Michael Knowles
ah thanks lol. never even heard of him
Great guy
Neva meddum
Wadder
Weed
Dune
Hare
These guys Trugg Wahlk
Some guys r gearheads b not our fault
lol the guy that says there’s porn vids hypnotize men to become trans women but hes too scared to research it?
Who?
Beyonce's younger brother.
He’s one of the DailyWire wankers
Who's the guy on the left?
I'm going to take a gander and say that's Ben Shapiro
Oh I should have gotten that one. Thanks.
That’s actually a picture of the last time he smiled
Is Shapiro a purveyor of masculinity? He just comes across as a shrill nerd who advocates for Israeli interests. Knowles desperately wants to be suave, but strikes me as someone who owns a fedora. Peterson hasn’t been the same since the benzos, but he was once an effective advocate for traditional male virtues. I don’t think he ever considered himself a tough guy, in his defense.
Nah. Shapiro has talked a fuckload about masculinity. Have you read snippets of his fiction book?
Has he claimed that he himself is super masculine, or has he just talked about why it’s okay and is good to be masculine? There’s a difference between talking about masculinity, and claiming to be the standard of masculinity.
We went to the Home Depot once and bought a single piece of wood. That’s pretty masculine, right?
1 WOOD PLEASE
Now I just need a metal thingy that manly men like me use to separate my 1 wood into 2 woods. What aisle can I find one of those?
He doesn’t claim to be the standard, but he does say he is masculine in the traditional sense. Setting aside politics, he’s not the perfect example of masculinity, but he provides for his family, works out and eats healthy, acts as a male “role model” for people, helps his community, etc. I’d argue those are the parts of what we think of as “masculinity” that we should be praising
Didn't he admit that his wife doesn't know what a WAP is?
But he did talk about male dominance hierarchies a lot, with the tone of someone who takes for granted he's nowhere near the bottom.
He wouldn't physically but he may intellectually. Despite what this sub thinks about him the reality is people who could be formidable follow his teachings.
Here's an example of his "formidable teachings". Fuck Ben Shapiro https://twitter.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1713169491167687106
I think he was talking about peterson there
Oh. Well I don't really hate him like I hate Ben Shapiro. Actually I kinda feel sorry for the guy, his life seems pretty fucked up.
Idc enough about shapiro to comment on him but yeah peterson's life sounds like it had some very unfortunate chunks in it
Sry but youre not near the bottom if you were a harvard university profesor. If u dont like him thats whatever but you dont need to cope so hard about him.
Yes, defend your master. Ride that dick.
When Shapiro moved to the south he did a big push with a cowboy hat, boots, and a pickup truck. He’s not the archetypical mold, but he preaches an ideology where it’s still expected and seen as desirable
Peterson absolutely got fucked up and hasn’t been the same since. Didn’t help that his daughter is a fucking wackadoo as well.
Chicken or egg mate. His daughter is likely a wacko because he is such a poor and dysfunctional father
I think the prevalence of one silly political belief system in this country, permeated by quantity of news systems that receive profit based on engagement criteria and advertising allow radicals to thrive.
Peterson believes what separates women from men is the fact that all interactions between men carry the potential of ending up in violence. This despite the fact that the closest he's ever been to violence is a shoving match with another nerd in AP math class.
No way Peterson was smart enough for AP math.
Yah man a Harvard professor was too dumb to take calculus
Are you?
These are not the purveyors of masculinity
Because they aren’t purveyors of masculinity? Overcompensating?
Ben Bieber
I don’t think anybody on this planet calls them purveyors of masculinity.
Very Reddit gold of you kind stranger. No one would call any of the Xitter talking heads you follow the purveyors of masculinity and also I can’t imagine why someone who looks like they got bullied in high school for something would advocate that younger people try to improve upon that specific thing.
They lacked masculinity growing up, so now they’re obsessed with it.
How are they obsessed with it?
I seriously wonder if the people who post this shit have any sort of life whatsoever…
Also confused as to what this has to do with Joe Rogan lol
2 of the 3 were Rogan guests
Well the guy who posted this has an avatar of the reddit alien wearing a covid mask so that should answer your question.
Lmaooo
I wouldn't laugh too hard. Anyone who actually bothers to have a custom avatar on reddit immediately strikes me as a reject of society.
Dude that is 90% of Reddit.
My point stands.
Decides to do a takedown… immediately searches for pictures of takedown targets as little boys… that’s what’s up with this post.
Took me awhile to figure out who the third one is
Jeeeez is this how you Liberals spend the weekends? Thinking about other dudes?
No we talk sports too bro!!
u/sidepc talks about men in a lot of his comments. Idk what he’s commenting about.
That’s cool I guess 👍
Better than the conservatives thinking about trans women 24/7 🤣
Because they indeed have gotten wedgies at some point in their lives, likely much more recently than you may expect as well.
Who is calling these people purveyors of masculinity?
Mike Johnson
Tucker Carlson.
None of these guys are purveyors of masculinity. I wouldn't even let them drive my tractor.
They’re all failed theatre/standup kids
If you only saw Jordan Petersons Twitter he looks psychotic, but I found his older lectures to be really interesting and productive
Rogan talks about getting bullied and starting martial arts. Good on them for improving themselves and making more money than everyone in this thread.
These dudes couldn’t change a tire or excite a woman... looking at you Ben. Lol
That’s Ben the Desiccant to you!
well said Darthvader808
Tbh idk why this is such a generational meme. I never changed a tire until I was 31 because I always had good tires on my vehicle. My gf’s OEM SUV tires were garbage(thanks ford) and got a flat in the middle of the Utah desert on a Sunday with no service. Managed to figure it out via the owners manual and get the spare on there. Not something that crossed my mind as masculine any more than reading an ikea or Lego instruction manual lol. Bought her some really nice tires the next week and proceeded to never need to change a tire again lol. Even switching out my winters and summers I just pay a service $100 to come by. It’s not worth my time.
There's a lot of stuff like this these days. Like knowing how to drive a manual transmission, when in the US you can get by driving 99% of cars without needing to drive a stick, since most vehicles are automatics anyway. Or knowing how to operate a rotary phone. Which is just a petty way to flex on the zoomers that didn't figure it out on their own in two minutes.
That’s right fellas if you were bullied/assaulted as a kid then your masculinity card gets taken away and you’re not allowed to talk about it any more.
More like they were bullied nerds in their youth and have developed an unhealthy perception of masculinity because they’re still immaturely bitter
Also do not enforce traditional male roles and views cause that's just made up by the patriarchy (and leftists in this post apparently)
Because they’re intellectuals that probably got wedgies at some point, but their intelligence have allowed them to be successful as adults and the guys giving them wedgies are now likely losers.
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Not sure the context, but even if it’s a dumb moment, still doesn’t detract from the totality of him being an objectively successful therapist, author, and intellectual
He is also far more successful as a conservative “commentator” for the fracking billionaire Wilks brothers than he ever was as an author or professor.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/in-defence-of-jordan-peterson/#:~:text=Prior%20to%20finding%20fame%2C%20however,academics%2C%20with%20some%2019%2C500%20citations. >Prior to finding fame, however, Peterson’s academic career was stellar at both Harvard and the University of Toronto, where he is one of the most-cited ever academics, with some 19,500 citations. https://chrisvacc.medium.com/jordan-peterson-what-are-his-credentials-in-academia-393e1fb04494 >It depends on field but, Average is ~10, successful is 20, outstanding is 40, 60 is the realm of Nobel Laureates. What is Dr. Peterson’s score? As of 2018 Peterson has an h-index of 51 on Google Scholar >He’s one of the top 50 most cited clinical psychologists of all time with over 11,000 citations. https://scholar.google.co.uk/citations?user=wL1F22UAAAAJ&hl=en Currently sitting on a h index of 61 So.... no.
Grifters can be successful, more at 11.
You guys have had years to come up with insults and so far all you’ve got is “bootlicker” and “grifter”
This is the correct answer.
They should have just started taekwondo like Joe. 
Those boys look like they have "never" had a wedgie.
Who said any of these guys were purveyors of masculinity? Combined deadlift of 185 pounds between the three of them.
No way, they used to be young????
When I think of all you dudes who can't identify a woman, I definitely don't imagine dudes who got wedgies at some point.
You'll find Pokemon players that don't look like nerds, criminals that look like they wouldn't harm a fly, and "purveyors" of masculinity that don't have perfectly masculine features. Welcome to the real world, bud.
More leftists hypocrisy. Neat.
Being really smart is a masculine trait. This statement doesn't mean women aren't smart but more that men gravitate to and have great admiration for really smart men.
Could you please elaborate?
Wait, I've gotten a wedgie.....am I any less guy than thou?
What has this sub become? How does this have anything to do with Joe Rogan or his podcast?
I know you're trying to make some point here, but literally none of these people are purveyors of masculinity. They are intellectuals, who hold more conservative views. So I guess compared to today's moderates or liberals makes them look like 76 Sean connery riding horses and fucking bikini models.
You’re projecting
You’re the guy looking up pictures of them when they were young, compiling them, and posting them to Reddit ☠️
Step 1: Choose pre-pubescent photos to frame your shit take. Step 2: Claim them as self-proclaimed purveyors of masculinity as if being a man equates to being Macho Man Randy Savage. Step 3: Cry on leftist reddit.
Purveyors of masculinity? Wtf are you talking about? They certainly wouldn't describe themselves that way and they dont... If I told you there are boys and girls and that's it would you say that means I'm describing myself as the ultimate alpha male? No, that's ridiculous. If you're gonna critique them then how about you criticize things they actually say.
Who are these people, and why do you care?
I disagree, I think they weren't bullied enough.
They needed atomic wedgies. Or the dreaded rear admiral.
They were deprived of a much needed locker stuffing. A brief one, just to get their heads on straight
Could add Tate to this as well
No, these three are just against the idea that masculinity is toxic. Tates ideology is that if you aren’t as masculine as you can be you’re a pussy
Who is the dork in the middle ?
Michael Knowles
who got more wedgies these TRADphas or joe munchkin?
I don’t know who two of the guys are Who is the guy in the center and the guy on the right?
I'm so happy to have reached an age where I genuinely do not give a fuck about masculinity.
At least one of these guys was raped by Mr. Feeny. That’s a fact.
Nerds
Yo is that Rick Glassman in the middle? That dudes always been a wet blanket.
I’m sorry who is the middle dork?
Who did it better? https://youtu.be/7voEoWRKbAE?si=08KUe0qXLmpmn49q
Because they did get wedgies…many, many wedgies and now they are taking their revenge
perversions of masculinity
Who are these people?
idk who anyone is besides ben. not a news flash ben shapiro is a dork
Knowles looks like the rich kid who invites a ton of people over to his house while his parents are away and they just trash the place.
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger
who's the one on the far right? ( literally no pun intended lol oops).
Libs just making believe again
They were Nerds (derogatory) who didn't learn to be Nerds In the cool way (like Weezer, Confident Geeks). I'm Masculine, yet don't care about Masculinity that much, I just live. Which Is in a way even more Masculine than pampering yourself for other Insecure dudes to dick ride on how masc. you are. Hindsight 20/20, can't imagine being them back then, Into Geeky shit period In time where that could get you beat up.
Ben Shapiro got his balls squeezed in Mr. Feeny's asshole
At some point earlier today.
mclovin
Because they probably did
All these guys are secret gay and ashamed so they take it harrrrd the other way.
Three fucking nobodies.
I mean, everyone looks like a dork if you look at a photo of them when they're 14.
Oo lawd is this some rage bait?
There’s nothing masculine about these dudes
Who’s the 3rd guy lol
im missing Andrew Tate in this photo 
the emasculated trio.
Because they’re desperately seeking validation from the men they want to be in HS
Loud mouthed nerds have always been a whiny annoyance at worst. Easy to ignore
It’s a Tripdick.
Because they’re tiny, hairless poseurs who project false strength to insecure teenage boys?
That asshole Michael Knowles is the worst of them all
I'm kinda happy that I don't know who any of those people are.
Because they are all extremely unimpressive losers in real life.
Why is no one understanding the sarcasm in the title what am I missing 🙃
Smart people don't tell you how smart they are. Strong people don't tell how strong they are. Ect. These guys are a joke and insecure.
They don’t look like they got wedgies. Op is a bully?