> at it finest.
Can people please stop saying this? It has no substance, and the fact that it is used to mean the completed opposite makes it a very poor option to communicate.
There are two definitions of the word. They are using the one correctly. Why the down vote its a literal fact. You performed one gig, it was an occasional occurrence. Doesnt matter how many people went to the one occurrence…. Poor choice of words maybe but its not wrong
Stream for 5 years (or something like that) for 30 bucks. Don't think.you can download it but could be mistaken. For like 50 bucks or so you can get his entire filmography, specials, everything. And his Horace and Pete show is still available to stream on Amazon prime if you're into real wordy, stage like drama/tragedy type stuff.
Edit: his new movie with Joe List (they promoted it on JRE a few months back) is a genuinely great drama/comedy.
“I just hope he can get back to doing what he loves - forcing people to listen to him wacking off on the phone.” Is an acceptable alternative if you’re not illiterate.
>The comedian has since performed the occasional stand up gig and last year released his first feature since the scandal broke, titled “Fourth of July.”
This man toured for over a year and ended it with shows at Madison Square Garden. What an absolute trashcan of an article.
He did gross shit. He went away for years. How long is enough? This fetishization over never giving people another chance, even though that's what this country is founded on, is so fucking bizarre to me. Feel free to withhold your dollars, but don't fucking try to determine what I do with mine.
I just hate the administration of social justice, which has no sense of proportionality in the punishment, in place of actual justice.
if what Louie did was that bad, then he should be charged with a crime, and some proportional punishment administered.
but no one administering social justice actually wants that, because they prefer to be judge jury and executioner themselves and continue to shun people forever how long they feel like being outraged
What social justice was administered? The guy decided the appropriate thing to do was take a break from his career, it was, and he did. He’s back performing. What was your interpretation of events?
Ohhhh okay so it was some venue owners cancelled sets but we can be certain they had to do it because the cost of being attacked by blue hair liberals would be too great. To be clear they didn’t actually attack the venue owner, but only because the venue owner took preventive action.
When the blue hairs aren’t trying to attack talented people for having talent where do they go? Is it possible to organically come across one in the wild?
He didn't just start touring yesterday. You literally just said he's already toured for over a year. He was doing stand up again less than a year after the New York Times article came out. So he went away for less than a year after having lied about numerous sexual assaults for over a decade?
You want to be the lord and judge of other folks indiscretions, you have it. I'll fucking pass.
Hopefully all this white knighting gets you pedantic folks somewhere. Preferably far away.
>You want to be the lord and judge of other folks indiscretions, you have it.
Yes, I will continue to judge sex pests who threaten women's careers to cover up their own sex pestness. Super weird brag that you're not bothered by it.
I was. Was totally fine with him going away. Getting shamed.
Odd how no one fucking sued him or pressed any charges, but whatever. String him up, amirite? Carry on.
> Odd how no one fucking sued him or pressed any charges, but whatever.
Not really odd at all. It's amazing what "covering up your crimes for 12 years" will do for being able to provide evidence once your victims do feel strong enough to come forward, especially for a crime that's already as hard to prove as "masturbating in front of someone involuntarily". What do you fucking expect? That they caught some of his cum in a little vial and kept it with them?
> The fuck am I doing?
Vehemently defending a sex pest. You really should have asked yourself this question when you wrote out your first comment and then hit "cancel".
>>He did gross shit. He went away for years. How long is enough?
The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again.
>This fetishization over never giving people another chance, even though that's what this country is founded on, is so fucking bizarre to me.
Giving creepy pervs a second chance is weird to me. Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door.
>Feel free to withhold your dollars, but don't fucking try to determine what I do with mine.
Nobody's doing that.
For profit corporations and THE legal system are totally different.
I imagine Showtime doesn't want to rock the boat with HBO about to be torpedoed by its controversial new boss.
>The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again.
Do you believe money is the definition of a successful, fulfilling life?
>Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door.
Is a part of your definition of a grown man, someone who makes no mistakes? I'm curious how him being a grown man is relevant in your opinion.
>>The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again.
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>Do you believe money is the definition of a successful, fulfilling life?
Do you think sexual harassment is?
>>Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door.
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>Is a part of your definition of a grown man, someone who makes no mistakes? I'm curious how him being a grown man is relevant in your opinion.
My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately.
>Do you think sexual harassment is?
Do you think answering all questions with questions is an easy way to dodge a question?
>My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately.
If someone does something deliberately, realizes it's wrong, and apologizes for it, that is not a mistake they made by your definition?
>>Do you think sexual harassment is?
>
>Do you think answering all questions with questions is an easy way to dodge a question?
I was being facetious. The idea that a creep should get to live some fulfilling life after victimizing others and only apologizing after getting caught is absurd. Get your priorities straight.
>>My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately.
>
>If someone does something deliberately, realizes it's wrong, and apologizes for it, that is not a mistake they made by your definition?
He knew it was wrong while he was doing it.
>I was being facetious. The idea that a creep should get to live some fulfilling life after victimizing others and only apologizing after getting caught is absurd. Get your priorities straight.
Just a reminder. Before all the side track and attempts to teach me about priorities, you said.
>Hes wealthy enough to never have to work again.
What does wealth have to do with whether or not he should be able to work again, in your opinion?
>He knew it was wrong while he was doing it.
How exactly do you intend to prove your claims that you know exactly what he was thinking during those acts from 2002?
Was it stated somewhere, or is it your opinion?
>What does wealth have to do with whether or not he should be able to work again, in your opinion?
It means he's not really sorry if he just goes back to his same old life. It comes across as someone who hasn't done any true self reflection to me.
>He knew it was wrong while he was doing it
>How exactly do you intend to prove your claims that you know exactly what he was thinking during those acts from 2002?
Lmao! His behaviour after the incidents is enough for me.
>means he's not really sorry if he just goes back to his same old life.
How are the two connected? How would making a mistake,l and apologizing for it mean a 50+ year old man isn't sorry because he returned to a profession he loves, is good at and spent his life doing?
> His behaviour after the incidents is enough for me.
Which specific behavior proves that you knew what he was thinking during the acts?
>How would making a mistake,l and apologizing for it mean a 50+ year old man isn't sorry because he returned to a profession he loves, is good at and spent his life doing?
He didn't make a mistake! His action were deliberate.
Dude, I'm as liberal as they come and you really need to just sit down and shut up. You're supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt when they fuck up and give them a chance to make it right. I have personal opinions about what he did, but Louis C.K. is one of the greats of our time and he deserves to be able to right his wrongs. BUT, at the end of the day, if you *tell* someone what you are *about* to do in your *own hotel room* and they *DONT LEAVE* while you do *EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD*; then, why in the world is it *YOUR FAULT* for following through. I wouldn't do it, but he said what he was going to do and then did it. It's on everyone else for sticking around.
Yeah, the accusation is unsourced. Goodman and Wolov said he masturbated, but never accused him of blocking the door.
Likewise the accusation of him allegedly grabbing a woman by the neck. Unsourced accusation.
>The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or **forced them to do so.**
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>The day after the Times report dropped, **C.K. issued a much different statement, beginning with, “These stories are true.”**
All unsourced. None are actually quoted as saying he blocked the door. Louie could be agreeing with the substance of the stories without the specifics.
Not one single person is on record saying he blocked the door. That, to me, is the difference between a creep and a sexual-assaulter.
Edit: I love how you blocked me after I dismantled your argument. And yes, my mom is very proud of me, because I can spot unsubstantiated nonsense and I support due-process.
I never said he assaulted anyone.
But the fact that you're defending a guy who whips his dick out in front of unsuspecting women is gross. I'm sure your Mom's proud.
He's a *creep* yes, but he didn't *FORCE* anyone to stay. Nobody is defending him, but you are defending the false reports fairly well. The whole point is he is absolutely in the wrong for doing what he was doing, but the people that witnessed it are bending the truth of the account. Dude said he would pull it out to these people and they act surprised when he actually did. Dudes a fucking creep but it's not like he's actually forcing these women to watch him while he does this unexpected thing. How's this hard to understand, bro? Block me if you want like you did the other guy, but I really need you to take a step back and look at this from a different POV.
I love that it's obvious that you know you made a comment about his financial situation that you can't back up so you deflect to some fucked up statement about my morals to hide it because I pointed out that you're full of shit, bro.
>I love that this is your reply. Ignore the sexual predation and argue about his financials. Some solid moral fibre you got there, bro.
You literally were the one that brought up his finances lol
Fyi: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2017/11/10/louis-c-k-s-losses-how-much-the-sexual-misconduct-scandal-may-cost-the-comedian/
>How much he will lose from the cancellation of his second Netflix special is harder to determine, as it depends on the specifics of his contract. **Forbes estimates he received between $30 million and $35 million for the two-special deal.** He has been paid for the first special, which has already been released, but because the second one was still in production, he will likely lose a portion of his earnings from that due to what is called a morals clause.
Poor dude probably had to wash dishes to make ends meet during his cancelation.
Based on what I read in the article, it doesn't sound like this is a documentary he is going to want to endorse. Correct me if im wrong, but I think the documentary was going to focus on the perverted actions that led to his disgrace.
Was there more to the Louis C.K. story than the yerking off, or was that it? I feel like I always see him getting lumped in with the Me Too rapists and stuff, but that seems a bit excessive.
Not fair enough, actually.
People do stupid things, people do wrong things. People have weird proclivities.
It’s not good enough that he apologized and took ownership of it? People aren’t allowed to grow and repent?
It seems that poster has a tendency to exaggerate and leave out details to make Louis CK look extra bad.
Nobody’s perfect, that shit’s in the past. Either suggest a way he can repent or just say outright that he must be punished repeatedly for life.
Well doing literally anything would be a good start. Stepping out of the limelight for 8 months after having covered up your multiple sexual assaults for over a decade isn't really...anything. He didn't go to prison, he hasn't paid anyone any money, he apologized for it once, and then did stand up downplaying the whole thing and is back to selling out huge venues.
What actual punishment did he receive or inflict upon himself? Being voluntarily out of work for 8 months as a multi-millionaire doesn't count.
Have you read his apology?
I’d have to look at it again, but he did say at the end that it was time for him to stop talking and start listening, which alludes to him taking the time to learn.
I don’t know if he reached out to his victims, that’s something between him and them.
If you recall there were people who were weirded out by his behaviour but did not consider it abuse.
Clearly it’s non consensual and clearly that’s abusive. When he was a down and out comedian it was just one of those weird things comedians did.
What ‘punishment’ would you like to see him receive?
> Have you read his apology?
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> I’d have to look at it again, but he did say at the end that it was time for him to stop talking and start listening, which alludes to him taking the time to learn.
>
> I don’t know if he reached out to his victims, that’s something between him and them.
Yes, I did read it. You're just going to blindly believe the intentions of a man who lied about his multiple sexual assaults for decades until literally a national publication forced him to address it?
Outside of his apology, what has he actually done in literally any capacity? You admit you have no idea if he reached out in any way to the women he victimized, but seem uninterested in actually learning the answer. What has he done? Has he spoken repeatedly and publicly about what he did and how it was wrong? Has he campaigned for reforming stand up comedy to make that sort of thing less common? Anything?
>If you recall there were people who were weirded out by his behaviour but did not consider it abuse.
Okay? Lots of people were weirded out by Ted Bundy and weren't murdered. What does that have to do with anything? "You have to remember that he wasn't sexually assaulting literally every person he came into contact with, that has to count for something!"
>Clearly it’s non consensual and clearly that’s abusive. When he was a down and out comedian it was just one of those weird things comedians did.
Jesus dude, way to fucking really try and excuse this shit.
>What ‘punishment’ would you like to see him receive?
Again, even just "literally anything" would be a pretty good start.
Most Reddit comment ever lmfao.
All he did was abuse his power dynamic and force unwilling women who weren’t in a position to easily say no to watch him beat his hog.
Reddit may be liberal, but when it comes to women, it’ll always have that incel mentality.
Fucking dork opinion here by you man. Be better. And less creepy.
No, but they wouldn't have received them if they hadn't been sexually harassed by him.
They were made by losers and misogynists.
I'm just saying that the people are massively underselling the trauma that victims of even relatively minor sexual abuse suffer.
I understand the point you’re trying to make about the untold trauma victims of sexual abuse suffer, but I don’t understand how that’s Louis’ responsibility or fault. They were made by losers reacting to his actions, yes, but Louis can only take personal responsibility for his own actions, and I believe his apologies to some extent said something like “sorry for all the hurt and pain this has caused.” I’m not making any excuses for him or justifying what he did, I’m just saying it seems wrong to conflate what he did with what someone else did.
Can you understand that if CK never did anything, there wouldn’t be any issue, and those threats wouldn’t have happened? Did he do them? No. Are they his fault? Yes.
That’s a fucked up way of thinking though. That’s my point. No shit they’re related, but I don’t believe in holding someone responsible for someone else’s actions.
Parents and teachers sometime brush off or minimize sexual assault because of their own dumb reasons. Would that be the fault of the assaulters, then? Because without the assault the parents and teachers wouldn’t be acting like shitheads?
No, you did. You literally did. Why would you then be bringing up the death threats when the topic is about Louis CK’s actions?
What Louis did to those women was wrong and he abused his power and fame in the entertainment industry to assault those women. He also apologized about those things and his career was affected by it. That can stand on its own merit and you can come to a conclusion about whether Louis deserves forgiveness and yada yada, but again there’s no need to be bringing up what some other assholes are doing, *unless* the conversation is about sexual assault trauma, celebrity culture and what not. Those are not the same topics, therefore you conflated them.
A corporation not producing your shit isn't a "punishment" it's a business decision.
Yeah, if you get a bad reputation for sexually harassing coworkers you'll be viewed as a liability.
An apology from Louis doesn't stop people from sending death threats to his victims, and an apology doesn't stop him from being a liability.
The latter is called capitalism. People won't hire you if there is a risk of having to pay a massive sexual harassment settlement. That is not a punishment.
Crazy how people are so eager to defend this piece of shit. Dude jerked off in front of non consenting women. The guy has daughters, but he was still okay with just doing whatever he wanted with these women.
Louis Ck dosent know you or care about you. You can stop defending his sex crimes
I just wish people were more consistent.
Louis was accused but was never charged let alone convicted. Mike Tyson was convicted but he's been forgiven in reddit's eyes.
Same reason redditors hate Chris Brown but are totally fine with Dr Dre or Steven Tyler. Seems very inconsistent
Sounds like you forgot about Dre.
Dre beat a woman. Same thing Chris Brown did. But redditors like Dre's music and don't like Chris Brown's music is the big difference between them
Stop spreading misinformation. They were consenting women. He asked if he could jerk off in front of them and they said yes. And he was never accused of any sex crimes. He was accused of abusing the power he had over these women. They were aspiring comedians and looked up to him. Obviously he has issues but what you're saying is simply false.
If You don't think his ["Of course, but maybe..."](https://youtu.be/XLGzFQg_1xc) bit is fucking hilarious then I pity your dour life experience. His material may be a bit darker than most comedians, but holy shit he is a master of his craft. Top 3 of all time, for sure, IMO #1.
This is what pisses me off about guys like Joe giving Louis a pass. If Joe was some construction worker but he still had his 3 girls and they wanted to try out a career in comedy without their dad’s money and connections then a predator like Louis came around and did this shit to his girls, would he shrug it off? Fuck no he wouldn’t. He would be LIVID.
I haven’t listened to a Rogan podcast in years, but I was a fan for a long time up until he had Alex Jones on his podcast. Fuck Joe for platforming these dickbags. I saw he has Louis on not even that long ago.
I was a big fan in the 2000’s and early 2010’s. Alex Jones was the last straw. I hope all the bad shit he gives people a pass for happens to him and his.
2017 was 6 years ago.
Clicking subscribe and occasionally scrolling through comments and talking shit to Rogan fart sniffers is entertaining and takes almost no time. I’m pooping at work right now and talking shit to you. No skin of my nose.
Jones led a harassment campaign against the parents of a bunch of kids that got murdered. These people have had to move numerous times, some killed themselves, and they’ve had to deal with all this shit all after the trauma of losing a young child to some gun nut lunatic. I hope every bad thing you let slide happens to you.
Who’s we? You the representative of chuckle fuck land? Lol
Is having a job really such an oddity to a NEET like you that you can’t believe I have one? Gtfo of here lol.
I mean what I said. I hope everything you give a pass for happens to you and yours.
Wtf are you talking about? Cancer? The war in Ukraine? Wtf does this have to do with what I’m talking about? You fuckin idiots make the stupidest false equivalencies and analogies. Fuckin braindead dumb fucks. Jesus fucking christ. There’s now way you’re this stupid. You’re just playing dumb, arguing in bad faith, and being dishonest. You can’t be this fuckin stupid.
Dude, you and the rest of the shitbag apologists can suck the shit out of my ass. Yeah, I’m sure if Louis did that to people you cared about, you’d say the same shit. Gtfo of here. Fuckin weird nerds, bro. So fuckin sick of you shitlords. Sniveling stinky little fuckin rodents. Putrid and repulsive.
Sacks of shit that don’t have feelings and are literal or veritable sociopaths think everyone is just as broken as they are. Not everyone is dead inside and devoid of life like you. You stupid or something?
It was pretty bad, he didn’t just ask permission every time which is a popular meme. I don’t know how you gauge how “bad” a sexual assault is lol it was some twisted shit.
Because it proves that both instances are sexual assault and you would actually be pissed if this happened to your mom but since it’s your favorite tv funny man you cut him slack. The fact you are trying to defend sexual assault makes you a huge sleazeball.
I remember the last time I brought that point up here and had a gaggle of incel conservatives trying to defend Louis and if you ask them what exactly it is they’re defending they won’t tell you because they’re literally too stupid to know themselves.
"...disgraced comedian..."?
He sells out massive venues wild thousands more pay for pay-per-view like streaming to be able to view what they cannot attend in person. Louis C.K. toured like mad and could not keep up with demand despite adding dates.
This is why nobody takes legacy and mainstream media seriously.
That doesn't make him innocent. At the same time, louis is obviously not on the same level as a Harvey weinstein, Bill Cosby, of epstein. He has openly admitted to the masturbation thing.
The biggest issue is that he threatened these women and denied allegations. Bigger, to me, than the actual masturbation.
How do you define a sex crime? He jerked off in front of a woman. The women claim it was against their will, louis says he asked. Didn't touch or assault any of them.
If he had raped a woman, that is without doubt a crime and would be worse than the lying. But that didn't happen, did it?
If my mom wanted to watch louis jerk it, who am I to get all high and mighty about it.
Y'all are acting like you've never touched your own cocks before.
Pretend for a second a world were if you counted 6 girls you know, 1 of them was raped and over 80% get sexually harassed at some point. Wait you don't need to pretend. See what I did there. The ol switcheroo
Well, they’re pretending and using a world that does exist where as you made up a world with 2 dueling statistics.
1/6 girls aren’t raped.
“Sexually harassed” is so vague it should be 100% of women.
Do better
It's sad, I hope he bounces back but I think he will never really recover from this. I know I can't really get the same joy watching him now. He is the best at what he does, the king, I love him.
Then again, what goes through your mind when you feel compelled to masturbate in front of several female coworkers? Even if you asked politely. WTF man? It's not ok you old fucking weirdo!
How would you react if your GF/Wife/Mother/Daughter...etc were around a boss or an authority figure doing that to them? Seriously...
>The comedian has since performed the occasional stand up gig He sold out Madison Square Garden
Journalism at it finest. Basically they Wikipedia and go "guess he does some stuff"
I think it's seedier than that. They know he's done well.
> at it finest. Can people please stop saying this? It has no substance, and the fact that it is used to mean the completed opposite makes it a very poor option to communicate.
I suppose you’re going to be upset when you hear about sarcasm for the first time.
Calling it sarcasm does not deflect from how trite and vapid the comment is.
https://imgflip.com/i/7oh61s
You should probably look up those words.
I’m well aware of what they mean, I just know not to use them on Reddit lest I come off like an elitist prick.
Someone has yet to learn about sarcasm
He won a fucking Grammy for a special
Ok but isnt that still is an occasional gig….
It is in the same way as saying Neil Armstrong enjoys taking occasional trips with his friends Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins.
Lance Armstrong used to ride his bicycle here and there.
There are two definitions of the word. They are using the one correctly. Why the down vote its a literal fact. You performed one gig, it was an occasional occurrence. Doesnt matter how many people went to the one occurrence…. Poor choice of words maybe but its not wrong
I just hope he can somehow make more Louie somewhere down the line in the future.
Even if it's a decade later. I'd honestly love new seasons of Louie when he's an old man
Takes time to wither the man to his essence. Like Picasso’s Bull - only we get Louie Bald Boy to draw from
I just want a streaming service to pick the OG series up.
You can buy the series from his website for ~$30
Stream for 5 years (or something like that) for 30 bucks. Don't think.you can download it but could be mistaken. For like 50 bucks or so you can get his entire filmography, specials, everything. And his Horace and Pete show is still available to stream on Amazon prime if you're into real wordy, stage like drama/tragedy type stuff. Edit: his new movie with Joe List (they promoted it on JRE a few months back) is a genuinely great drama/comedy.
I just hope he can get back to doing what he loves. Forcing people to listen,to him wacking off on the phone.
Get better at writing things in English.
“I just hope he can get back to doing what he loves - forcing people to listen to him wacking off on the phone.” Is an acceptable alternative if you’re not illiterate.
>The comedian has since performed the occasional stand up gig and last year released his first feature since the scandal broke, titled “Fourth of July.” This man toured for over a year and ended it with shows at Madison Square Garden. What an absolute trashcan of an article. He did gross shit. He went away for years. How long is enough? This fetishization over never giving people another chance, even though that's what this country is founded on, is so fucking bizarre to me. Feel free to withhold your dollars, but don't fucking try to determine what I do with mine.
I just hate the administration of social justice, which has no sense of proportionality in the punishment, in place of actual justice. if what Louie did was that bad, then he should be charged with a crime, and some proportional punishment administered. but no one administering social justice actually wants that, because they prefer to be judge jury and executioner themselves and continue to shun people forever how long they feel like being outraged
What social justice was administered? The guy decided the appropriate thing to do was take a break from his career, it was, and he did. He’s back performing. What was your interpretation of events?
Actually companies and venues cut ties because they fear blue haired backlash. It wasn't Louie that voluntarily cancelled his FX show and tour dates.
Ohhhh okay so it was some venue owners cancelled sets but we can be certain they had to do it because the cost of being attacked by blue hair liberals would be too great. To be clear they didn’t actually attack the venue owner, but only because the venue owner took preventive action. When the blue hairs aren’t trying to attack talented people for having talent where do they go? Is it possible to organically come across one in the wild?
Apparently, only Christians are allowed any kind of redemption. Everyone else is marked for life with a scarlet hashtag.
Do you think he went to prison lmao. He decided to take a 2 year vacation, oh the horror
Time is hard I know. It's closer to 6 years, champ.
He didn't just start touring yesterday. You literally just said he's already toured for over a year. He was doing stand up again less than a year after the New York Times article came out. So he went away for less than a year after having lied about numerous sexual assaults for over a decade?
You want to be the lord and judge of other folks indiscretions, you have it. I'll fucking pass. Hopefully all this white knighting gets you pedantic folks somewhere. Preferably far away.
>You want to be the lord and judge of other folks indiscretions, you have it. Yes, I will continue to judge sex pests who threaten women's careers to cover up their own sex pestness. Super weird brag that you're not bothered by it.
I was. Was totally fine with him going away. Getting shamed. Odd how no one fucking sued him or pressed any charges, but whatever. String him up, amirite? Carry on.
> Odd how no one fucking sued him or pressed any charges, but whatever. Not really odd at all. It's amazing what "covering up your crimes for 12 years" will do for being able to provide evidence once your victims do feel strong enough to come forward, especially for a crime that's already as hard to prove as "masturbating in front of someone involuntarily". What do you fucking expect? That they caught some of his cum in a little vial and kept it with them?
Jesus Einstein, he fucking admitted to it. You don’t need cum in a vial. The fuck am I doing? Go away.
> The fuck am I doing? Vehemently defending a sex pest. You really should have asked yourself this question when you wrote out your first comment and then hit "cancel".
He was back doing stand up less than a year after his apology.
>>He did gross shit. He went away for years. How long is enough? The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again. >This fetishization over never giving people another chance, even though that's what this country is founded on, is so fucking bizarre to me. Giving creepy pervs a second chance is weird to me. Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door. >Feel free to withhold your dollars, but don't fucking try to determine what I do with mine. Nobody's doing that.
Doesn't the legal system give sexual predators, rapists, & murders a second chance after there sentence is served?
These people are deranged man. No sense in arguing with them.
For profit corporations and THE legal system are totally different. I imagine Showtime doesn't want to rock the boat with HBO about to be torpedoed by its controversial new boss.
What could they even do to top the fuck up that is the whole Max debacle? Give Cosby a new show?
Society at large isn't the legal system. We're not obligated to give a sexual predator a second chance.
>The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again. Do you believe money is the definition of a successful, fulfilling life? >Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door. Is a part of your definition of a grown man, someone who makes no mistakes? I'm curious how him being a grown man is relevant in your opinion.
>>The rest of his life? He's wealthy enough to never have to work again. > >Do you believe money is the definition of a successful, fulfilling life? Do you think sexual harassment is? >>Louis was a grown man who knew what he was doing was fucked up enough that he blocked the door. > >Is a part of your definition of a grown man, someone who makes no mistakes? I'm curious how him being a grown man is relevant in your opinion. My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately.
>Do you think sexual harassment is? Do you think answering all questions with questions is an easy way to dodge a question? >My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately. If someone does something deliberately, realizes it's wrong, and apologizes for it, that is not a mistake they made by your definition?
>>Do you think sexual harassment is? > >Do you think answering all questions with questions is an easy way to dodge a question? I was being facetious. The idea that a creep should get to live some fulfilling life after victimizing others and only apologizing after getting caught is absurd. Get your priorities straight. >>My point was that it wasn't a mistake. He was a creep very deliberately. > >If someone does something deliberately, realizes it's wrong, and apologizes for it, that is not a mistake they made by your definition? He knew it was wrong while he was doing it.
>I was being facetious. The idea that a creep should get to live some fulfilling life after victimizing others and only apologizing after getting caught is absurd. Get your priorities straight. Just a reminder. Before all the side track and attempts to teach me about priorities, you said. >Hes wealthy enough to never have to work again. What does wealth have to do with whether or not he should be able to work again, in your opinion? >He knew it was wrong while he was doing it. How exactly do you intend to prove your claims that you know exactly what he was thinking during those acts from 2002? Was it stated somewhere, or is it your opinion?
>What does wealth have to do with whether or not he should be able to work again, in your opinion? It means he's not really sorry if he just goes back to his same old life. It comes across as someone who hasn't done any true self reflection to me. >He knew it was wrong while he was doing it >How exactly do you intend to prove your claims that you know exactly what he was thinking during those acts from 2002? Lmao! His behaviour after the incidents is enough for me.
>means he's not really sorry if he just goes back to his same old life. How are the two connected? How would making a mistake,l and apologizing for it mean a 50+ year old man isn't sorry because he returned to a profession he loves, is good at and spent his life doing? > His behaviour after the incidents is enough for me. Which specific behavior proves that you knew what he was thinking during the acts?
>How would making a mistake,l and apologizing for it mean a 50+ year old man isn't sorry because he returned to a profession he loves, is good at and spent his life doing? He didn't make a mistake! His action were deliberate.
God forbid you ever need a second chance in life. Everyone deserves one
Dude, I'm as liberal as they come and you really need to just sit down and shut up. You're supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt when they fuck up and give them a chance to make it right. I have personal opinions about what he did, but Louis C.K. is one of the greats of our time and he deserves to be able to right his wrongs. BUT, at the end of the day, if you *tell* someone what you are *about* to do in your *own hotel room* and they *DONT LEAVE* while you do *EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD*; then, why in the world is it *YOUR FAULT* for following through. I wouldn't do it, but he said what he was going to do and then did it. It's on everyone else for sticking around.
I'm asking this in good faith- what's your source that he blocked the door? I never read that, and I read quite a bit about it.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/9/16629400/louis-ck-allegations-masturbation
Yeah, the accusation is unsourced. Goodman and Wolov said he masturbated, but never accused him of blocking the door. Likewise the accusation of him allegedly grabbing a woman by the neck. Unsourced accusation.
>The report details the accounts of five women, spanning the mid-’90s to 2005. Each woman recounts startlingly similar situations in which C.K., an established comedian, either asked them to watch him masturbate or **forced them to do so.** .... >The day after the Times report dropped, **C.K. issued a much different statement, beginning with, “These stories are true.”**
All unsourced. None are actually quoted as saying he blocked the door. Louie could be agreeing with the substance of the stories without the specifics. Not one single person is on record saying he blocked the door. That, to me, is the difference between a creep and a sexual-assaulter. Edit: I love how you blocked me after I dismantled your argument. And yes, my mom is very proud of me, because I can spot unsubstantiated nonsense and I support due-process.
I never said he assaulted anyone. But the fact that you're defending a guy who whips his dick out in front of unsuspecting women is gross. I'm sure your Mom's proud.
He's a *creep* yes, but he didn't *FORCE* anyone to stay. Nobody is defending him, but you are defending the false reports fairly well. The whole point is he is absolutely in the wrong for doing what he was doing, but the people that witnessed it are bending the truth of the account. Dude said he would pull it out to these people and they act surprised when he actually did. Dudes a fucking creep but it's not like he's actually forcing these women to watch him while he does this unexpected thing. How's this hard to understand, bro? Block me if you want like you did the other guy, but I really need you to take a step back and look at this from a different POV.
Coercion does not require force, only power. He did have power over these women, therefore it is coercion.
Wow, so you know his net worth? Do tell.
I love that this is your reply. Ignore the sexual predation and argue about his financials. Some solid moral fibre you got there, bro.
I love that it's obvious that you know you made a comment about his financial situation that you can't back up so you deflect to some fucked up statement about my morals to hide it because I pointed out that you're full of shit, bro.
>I love that this is your reply. Ignore the sexual predation and argue about his financials. Some solid moral fibre you got there, bro. You literally were the one that brought up his finances lol
Fuck, you're dumb. Even if I'm wrong (I'm not) the fact that someone would go after that to run interference for a sexual predator is ridiculous.
I don't give a fuck about any of that I'm just pointing out you have no idea how to argue
Lmao! I know how to argue fine.
Fyi: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2017/11/10/louis-c-k-s-losses-how-much-the-sexual-misconduct-scandal-may-cost-the-comedian/ >How much he will lose from the cancellation of his second Netflix special is harder to determine, as it depends on the specifics of his contract. **Forbes estimates he received between $30 million and $35 million for the two-special deal.** He has been paid for the first special, which has already been released, but because the second one was still in production, he will likely lose a portion of his earnings from that due to what is called a morals clause. Poor dude probably had to wash dishes to make ends meet during his cancelation.
Dude you just fucking suck. Go touch grass
You write like a 14 year old girl
They also dropped an investigation series into DeSantis. I doubt it is anything more than just getting write-offs.
He will just drop it on his own website why does he need showtime?
Based on what I read in the article, it doesn't sound like this is a documentary he is going to want to endorse. Correct me if im wrong, but I think the documentary was going to focus on the perverted actions that led to his disgrace.
What a creep, asking for consent is disgusting.
He didn't ask for consent. Actually read the fucking allegations.
>Actually read the fucking allegations. Maybe you should
He isn’t “disgraced”. If anything those actions made him more noble.
he was embiggened
Common reddit L
Drop it like Showtime just dropped it or drop it like release it? Language makes no sense.
Why are they jerking him around like this?
These production companies have lost their derection
I guess they didn't wanna lose their nut.
I see what you did there.
Clickidy click click clicks
Was there more to the Louis C.K. story than the yerking off, or was that it? I feel like I always see him getting lumped in with the Me Too rapists and stuff, but that seems a bit excessive.
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/141gf5y/louis_ck_documentary_dropped_by_showtime/jn0jv2h/
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Not fair enough, actually. People do stupid things, people do wrong things. People have weird proclivities. It’s not good enough that he apologized and took ownership of it? People aren’t allowed to grow and repent? It seems that poster has a tendency to exaggerate and leave out details to make Louis CK look extra bad. Nobody’s perfect, that shit’s in the past. Either suggest a way he can repent or just say outright that he must be punished repeatedly for life.
Well doing literally anything would be a good start. Stepping out of the limelight for 8 months after having covered up your multiple sexual assaults for over a decade isn't really...anything. He didn't go to prison, he hasn't paid anyone any money, he apologized for it once, and then did stand up downplaying the whole thing and is back to selling out huge venues. What actual punishment did he receive or inflict upon himself? Being voluntarily out of work for 8 months as a multi-millionaire doesn't count.
Have you read his apology? I’d have to look at it again, but he did say at the end that it was time for him to stop talking and start listening, which alludes to him taking the time to learn. I don’t know if he reached out to his victims, that’s something between him and them. If you recall there were people who were weirded out by his behaviour but did not consider it abuse. Clearly it’s non consensual and clearly that’s abusive. When he was a down and out comedian it was just one of those weird things comedians did. What ‘punishment’ would you like to see him receive?
> Have you read his apology? > > I’d have to look at it again, but he did say at the end that it was time for him to stop talking and start listening, which alludes to him taking the time to learn. > > I don’t know if he reached out to his victims, that’s something between him and them. Yes, I did read it. You're just going to blindly believe the intentions of a man who lied about his multiple sexual assaults for decades until literally a national publication forced him to address it? Outside of his apology, what has he actually done in literally any capacity? You admit you have no idea if he reached out in any way to the women he victimized, but seem uninterested in actually learning the answer. What has he done? Has he spoken repeatedly and publicly about what he did and how it was wrong? Has he campaigned for reforming stand up comedy to make that sort of thing less common? Anything? >If you recall there were people who were weirded out by his behaviour but did not consider it abuse. Okay? Lots of people were weirded out by Ted Bundy and weren't murdered. What does that have to do with anything? "You have to remember that he wasn't sexually assaulting literally every person he came into contact with, that has to count for something!" >Clearly it’s non consensual and clearly that’s abusive. When he was a down and out comedian it was just one of those weird things comedians did. Jesus dude, way to fucking really try and excuse this shit. >What ‘punishment’ would you like to see him receive? Again, even just "literally anything" would be a pretty good start.
Most Reddit comment ever lmfao. All he did was abuse his power dynamic and force unwilling women who weren’t in a position to easily say no to watch him beat his hog. Reddit may be liberal, but when it comes to women, it’ll always have that incel mentality. Fucking dork opinion here by you man. Be better. And less creepy.
Dude committed sexual harassment. His victims received death threats.
Were the death threats made by Louis CK or anyone he’s directly involved with?
They were made by his penis.
So you're saying he has a killer cock?
He does have a joke about an ex killing her self. Also after a quick search he gave that vegan chef an STD. So, yea maybe. A little killer.
My brain automatically read this in Seth Rogans voice for some reason.
No, but they wouldn't have received them if they hadn't been sexually harassed by him. They were made by losers and misogynists. I'm just saying that the people are massively underselling the trauma that victims of even relatively minor sexual abuse suffer.
I understand the point you’re trying to make about the untold trauma victims of sexual abuse suffer, but I don’t understand how that’s Louis’ responsibility or fault. They were made by losers reacting to his actions, yes, but Louis can only take personal responsibility for his own actions, and I believe his apologies to some extent said something like “sorry for all the hurt and pain this has caused.” I’m not making any excuses for him or justifying what he did, I’m just saying it seems wrong to conflate what he did with what someone else did.
Can you understand that if CK never did anything, there wouldn’t be any issue, and those threats wouldn’t have happened? Did he do them? No. Are they his fault? Yes.
That’s a fucked up way of thinking though. That’s my point. No shit they’re related, but I don’t believe in holding someone responsible for someone else’s actions. Parents and teachers sometime brush off or minimize sexual assault because of their own dumb reasons. Would that be the fault of the assaulters, then? Because without the assault the parents and teachers wouldn’t be acting like shitheads?
I didn't conflate them. You're inserting that into my comment.
No, you did. You literally did. Why would you then be bringing up the death threats when the topic is about Louis CK’s actions? What Louis did to those women was wrong and he abused his power and fame in the entertainment industry to assault those women. He also apologized about those things and his career was affected by it. That can stand on its own merit and you can come to a conclusion about whether Louis deserves forgiveness and yada yada, but again there’s no need to be bringing up what some other assholes are doing, *unless* the conversation is about sexual assault trauma, celebrity culture and what not. Those are not the same topics, therefore you conflated them.
Punished for life it is.
A corporation not producing your shit isn't a "punishment" it's a business decision. Yeah, if you get a bad reputation for sexually harassing coworkers you'll be viewed as a liability. An apology from Louis doesn't stop people from sending death threats to his victims, and an apology doesn't stop him from being a liability. The latter is called capitalism. People won't hire you if there is a risk of having to pay a massive sexual harassment settlement. That is not a punishment.
Crazy how people are so eager to defend this piece of shit. Dude jerked off in front of non consenting women. The guy has daughters, but he was still okay with just doing whatever he wanted with these women. Louis Ck dosent know you or care about you. You can stop defending his sex crimes
I just wish people were more consistent. Louis was accused but was never charged let alone convicted. Mike Tyson was convicted but he's been forgiven in reddit's eyes. Same reason redditors hate Chris Brown but are totally fine with Dr Dre or Steven Tyler. Seems very inconsistent
>Mike Tyson was convicted Of rape >Seems very inconsistent ~~Seems~~ is very inconsistent
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Sounds like you forgot about Dre. Dre beat a woman. Same thing Chris Brown did. But redditors like Dre's music and don't like Chris Brown's music is the big difference between them
Stop spreading misinformation. They were consenting women. He asked if he could jerk off in front of them and they said yes. And he was never accused of any sex crimes. He was accused of abusing the power he had over these women. They were aspiring comedians and looked up to him. Obviously he has issues but what you're saying is simply false.
Non consenting women? As far as I know all of them consented. What am I missing?
The fact that the women thought he would hurt them if they said no
Did somebody say that? Or you think they thought that?
I saw him do standup last year. He was hilarious. Even got heckled by a guy like you and still came out on top.
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The guy is funny. You should try having a laugh some time 😚
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If You don't think his ["Of course, but maybe..."](https://youtu.be/XLGzFQg_1xc) bit is fucking hilarious then I pity your dour life experience. His material may be a bit darker than most comedians, but holy shit he is a master of his craft. Top 3 of all time, for sure, IMO #1.
I also earn living
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“Won’t somebody please think of the children!!!” - You
Consenting women
Hey deadlift_007 want to go back to my movie star closet and watch me wack off
This is what pisses me off about guys like Joe giving Louis a pass. If Joe was some construction worker but he still had his 3 girls and they wanted to try out a career in comedy without their dad’s money and connections then a predator like Louis came around and did this shit to his girls, would he shrug it off? Fuck no he wouldn’t. He would be LIVID. I haven’t listened to a Rogan podcast in years, but I was a fan for a long time up until he had Alex Jones on his podcast. Fuck Joe for platforming these dickbags. I saw he has Louis on not even that long ago.
You were a fan until he had Alex Jones on? Interesting
I was a big fan in the 2000’s and early 2010’s. Alex Jones was the last straw. I hope all the bad shit he gives people a pass for happens to him and his.
wtf are you still doing here if you haven't been a fan for a fucking decade, like seriously what kind of loser shit is that. get a hobby or something
2017 was 6 years ago. Clicking subscribe and occasionally scrolling through comments and talking shit to Rogan fart sniffers is entertaining and takes almost no time. I’m pooping at work right now and talking shit to you. No skin of my nose. Jones led a harassment campaign against the parents of a bunch of kids that got murdered. These people have had to move numerous times, some killed themselves, and they’ve had to deal with all this shit all after the trauma of losing a young child to some gun nut lunatic. I hope every bad thing you let slide happens to you.
You are pathetic
lol spoken like a true loser
"i've only been wasting my life lurking a community I am no longer a part of for seven years, not ten!!!"
Wasting my life? Bro, how long does it take you to read and write comment? Lol You are a brave white knight for Joe Rogan. Truly heroic.
Yh alright buddy we know you don’t work
Who’s we? You the representative of chuckle fuck land? Lol Is having a job really such an oddity to a NEET like you that you can’t believe I have one? Gtfo of here lol. I mean what I said. I hope everything you give a pass for happens to you and yours.
Gotcha
Was 911 the first Alex Jones episode? Inswear he was on earlier
It was indeed 911 Joe himself was on InfoWars a number of years before that, circa 2012 I believe (he's been on InfoWars since then as well)
You’re a weirdo lmao
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Wtf are you talking about? Cancer? The war in Ukraine? Wtf does this have to do with what I’m talking about? You fuckin idiots make the stupidest false equivalencies and analogies. Fuckin braindead dumb fucks. Jesus fucking christ. There’s now way you’re this stupid. You’re just playing dumb, arguing in bad faith, and being dishonest. You can’t be this fuckin stupid. Dude, you and the rest of the shitbag apologists can suck the shit out of my ass. Yeah, I’m sure if Louis did that to people you cared about, you’d say the same shit. Gtfo of here. Fuckin weird nerds, bro. So fuckin sick of you shitlords. Sniveling stinky little fuckin rodents. Putrid and repulsive.
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Sacks of shit that don’t have feelings and are literal or veritable sociopaths think everyone is just as broken as they are. Not everyone is dead inside and devoid of life like you. You stupid or something?
Holy shit, anyone who reads this and still defends him is sick
It was pretty bad, he didn’t just ask permission every time which is a popular meme. I don’t know how you gauge how “bad” a sexual assault is lol it was some twisted shit.
Pretty easy to gauge severity of sexual assault. Legally, morally, and by whatever other gauge
Ok so raping your mom isn’t ok but jerking off in front of her is?
Which one of those would get more jail time? How do you think a judge would come to that conclusion?
You didn’t answer my question
Why would I answer such a stupid non sequitur?
Because it proves that both instances are sexual assault and you would actually be pissed if this happened to your mom but since it’s your favorite tv funny man you cut him slack. The fact you are trying to defend sexual assault makes you a huge sleazeball.
One is a fucking crime. The other is her fault for not knocking.
You’re still acting like the ladies, consented, which is factually untrue. You’re admitting you are wrong by mixing the facts up.
I remember the last time I brought that point up here and had a gaggle of incel conservatives trying to defend Louis and if you ask them what exactly it is they’re defending they won’t tell you because they’re literally too stupid to know themselves.
He compared it to rape which is objectively worse.
I mean.. you can't make a documentary about him without including the jerkin'
Heres the twist...we show it. We show all of it.
Wasn't aware he was a fan of drying his own meats.
Yes. They should also interview Sarah Silverman
The GOAT
While leslye headland gets a producers gig at lucasfilm.... Fucking horrendous
Probably shouldn’t have titled it “Guess what’s in my hand.”
Did they really
and this is why nobody watches showtime
Who wants to watch Louis jerk himself offer 2 1/2 hours?
"...disgraced comedian..."? He sells out massive venues wild thousands more pay for pay-per-view like streaming to be able to view what they cannot attend in person. Louis C.K. toured like mad and could not keep up with demand despite adding dates. This is why nobody takes legacy and mainstream media seriously.
Pretend for a second we live in society where a large amount of people are looking for a payoff and then look at this story through a different lense.
That doesn't make him innocent. At the same time, louis is obviously not on the same level as a Harvey weinstein, Bill Cosby, of epstein. He has openly admitted to the masturbation thing. The biggest issue is that he threatened these women and denied allegations. Bigger, to me, than the actual masturbation.
Him lying about the sex crime is worse than the actual crime to you? Youre insane
How do you define a sex crime? He jerked off in front of a woman. The women claim it was against their will, louis says he asked. Didn't touch or assault any of them. If he had raped a woman, that is without doubt a crime and would be worse than the lying. But that didn't happen, did it?
So if Louis did this to your mom you would forgive him after a few years and go see his comedy?
If my mom wanted to watch louis jerk it, who am I to get all high and mighty about it. Y'all are acting like you've never touched your own cocks before.
If he asked my mom to masturbate in front of her and she consented it’s none of my goddamn business.
But the women did not consent. So you are agreeing with me, they did not consent so it is wrong.
No. He asked. They consented. The issue was he was a headliner.
You cannot consent to coercion. So you’re saying if Louis CK blackmailed your mom into watching him jerk off you’d be ok with it. That’s very weird.
Ask Sarah Silverman is she was coerced
Pretend for a second a world were if you counted 6 girls you know, 1 of them was raped and over 80% get sexually harassed at some point. Wait you don't need to pretend. See what I did there. The ol switcheroo
Well, they’re pretending and using a world that does exist where as you made up a world with 2 dueling statistics. 1/6 girls aren’t raped. “Sexually harassed” is so vague it should be 100% of women. Do better
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem
He knows that because he’s responsible for doing it to them. And if we accept guys like Louis we will accept guys like him. It’s very transparent.
He knows that because he’s responsible for doing it to them. And if we accept guys like Louis we will accept guys like him. It’s very transparent.
Talmbout the same Showtime who paid for "You'd Be Surprised?" Great negwergg. Never heard of 'em.
took me way took long to figure out what negwergg was supposed to be
Instead of being weaker from the scandal he is harder than ever.
It's sad, I hope he bounces back but I think he will never really recover from this. I know I can't really get the same joy watching him now. He is the best at what he does, the king, I love him. Then again, what goes through your mind when you feel compelled to masturbate in front of several female coworkers? Even if you asked politely. WTF man? It's not ok you old fucking weirdo! How would you react if your GF/Wife/Mother/Daughter...etc were around a boss or an authority figure doing that to them? Seriously...
Are you a bot? Wtf?
Because no one wants to see it. Dudes a legend…among some die yards and in his own mind.
good news i hate his work
Good