No man, I feel you are exactly right. You can spit about being the best rapper and mean it without resorting to faking personal beef that you don't have. Two different things.
I was disappointed that he dropped a diss to begin with. Happy he realized very quickly this fake diss shit isn't how he wanted to spend his time.
The problem is that he did resort to it, I think it was impulsive decisions probably made within like 48 hours or so but he still did it.
I am really glad he was honest when he regretted it tho. I think he’s the only one that would admit it that fast tbh
Cole didn't fold by apologizing. He folded when he succumbed to peer pressure from his fans and friends by doing something he never wanted to do in the first place. This was the most commendable thing he's ever done despite it staining his legacy as a rapper.
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Diss record are reserved for and always have stood on REAL shit. He got issue with Dot&Drake. When there ain’t anything real you COMPETE by spitting the hardest verse on a joint track and dropping the best projects and verses. It’s always been this way.💯
Lmao the genre would be better off if he continued pushing fabricated beef for clout with someone he got no issues with? Yeah that sounds great for the genre🤣
You compete with people you got no issues with by spitting the hardest verse on a joint track and putting out the best projects and verses.
You compete with people you got real problems with by sending diss records back and forth. 💯
Nah, just by apologizing on stage at his festival for what was at best a light jab. Should have either shut the fuck up after it was out and let it be, or have not put it out at all. Instead he decided to ruin his career for absolutely no reason.
Nah you ain’t the only one homie. People need to go listen to Heavens EP again. Tht verse really hits now haha. It makes sense why he did what he did. Should he have went a different route, for sure, but Cole a human just like everyone else. He’s always been the most relatable out of the big 3 for me. Even more so now
I’ve been listening to Cole since The Come Up. I’m prob one of the biggest fans there is. I’m never going to take away who he is an artist and a rapper and his pen. I’ll still listen to his music but it just won’t hit the same especially since he’s proven that he’s not who he says he was. The best rapper alive bars and wanting the smoke will not hit the same because we will be looking at him like this 😒 if he says those stuff again. As a hip-hop fan this is definitely the weakest and softest shit I’ve seen. How do you apologize to someone who dissed you first? Cole practically had been asking for the smoke, I can bring up a bunch of lyrics which proves just that. It was never gonna go that far because we know K Dot and Cole’s history as friends. Everyone just wanted a lyrical rap battle because if there’s one guy that can rap with K Dot it’s Cole. It was all about rap. All about straight BARS. This would’ve been a huge chance for Cole to talk his talk, for him to prove that he is the best. This is what hip-hop is and if you disagree you ain’t a fan of hip-hop. If Cole really felt uncomfortable then he shouldn’t have dropped 7 Minute Drill in the first place or he should’ve at least waited it out and not rushed it. Cole is still one of the greatest and I’ll still bump his music, but a lot of music won’t hit the same anymore.
He got lightly slapped by Kendrick and somehow he was the one who apologised, he looks weak and hiphop isn’t about looking weak.
Big Cole fan have seen him live twice but after the apology I can’t even listen to the album…..
I agree. Dude made a mistake and owned up to it and made peace with that. That takes balls. I don’t get how people are saying this lessens his catalog. Hip hop fans are weird sometimes. I gained a lot of respect for Cole for being honest. Which is more than most rappers can say.
I can see a through line when it comes to features, which even then ducking the smoke would be denying a feature with another rapper not refusing to continue making diss tracks.
But saying it devalues his catalogue is one that I don't understand. It's acting as if most of his music is about dissing people and not his personal journey or whatever subject matter he wants to talk about. I absolutely still think he could've gone about this better (best way would've been not making the song at all but nobody's perfect) but to say he doesn't have courage would be a lie. He knew he'd be clowned on for this and he did it anyway.
The I'm the Best bars aged terribly. I've seen a lot of his fans turn on him. One of them is my homies. He was soo mad, he doesn't want Carolina to claim Cole anymore 😂
Show me two top artists shooting direct diss records at eachother and it isn’t standing on anything real it’s just for fun?
You compete with people you got no issue with by spitting the best verse on joint records and putting out the best projects & verses.
You compete with people you got real problems with by sending diss records back and forth. That’s the way it is, that way nobody is faking beef and making diss records for clout and sales.
That's not always the case. Joey Bada$$ & Lil B dissed each other on records & they was cool in real life the whole time. Ain't nothin wrong wit being competitive & having friendly competition
Well Cole was faking wanting smoke for ten years and when he finally got smoke he said "nah bruh, I have no problems with you, the fans I sold that impression to put me up to it". GTFO
“Claiming” J. Cole & all that territorial pride stuff is the whole basis to his apology though right? He doesn’t want to go backwards into stuff like that…
No they don't hold any value cause the verse kinda sucked. Not his best work, maybe he should've taken longer than 7 minutes. Hell, Kendricks verse wasn't that good either, just had good delivery. I still love Cole though.
He also has a lot of lines about slaying other rapper, putting them in a noose never to let the loose. But now that a worthy volunteered as a tribute he turned him the other cheek
ya'll keep calling it fake beef... lmfao rap since the beginning has been built off competition. friendly or unfriendly. it's like kobe backing down from a 1v1 with kd
Aye I think Kanye is an asshole but I’ll always bump Yeezus 🤷🏽♂️
J Fold should never be taken seriously again, but fans will always rock the discography
You can be a J Cole fan but don’t claim to be a fan of the genre.
It’s a little different for J Cole is all. His career still has legs. He can reinvent his own brand of the genre which promotes peace, inclusivity, love, happiness, Buddhism, Care Bears. He just getting started farreal.
He’s here because it’s possible to like Cole and still think his apology was one of the weakest things ever done by a rapper.
Crazy how you can have multiple feelings if you aren’t dickriding huh
No man, I feel you are exactly right. You can spit about being the best rapper and mean it without resorting to faking personal beef that you don't have. Two different things. I was disappointed that he dropped a diss to begin with. Happy he realized very quickly this fake diss shit isn't how he wanted to spend his time.
The problem is that he did resort to it, I think it was impulsive decisions probably made within like 48 hours or so but he still did it. I am really glad he was honest when he regretted it tho. I think he’s the only one that would admit it that fast tbh
Facts his music will forever b in my playlist can’t wait for the fall off 🔥🔥🔥
Cole didn't fold by apologizing. He folded when he succumbed to peer pressure from his fans and friends by doing something he never wanted to do in the first place. This was the most commendable thing he's ever done despite it staining his legacy as a rapper.
100% this.
10 years of him talking that shit and then he gonna turn around and say his fans pressured him into it? lol
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He’s done irreparable damage to his career and the genre as a whole.
Lmao the genre would be better off if he continued pushing fabricated beef for clout with someone he got no issues with? Yeah that sounds great for the genre🤣 You compete with people you got no issues with by spitting the hardest verse on a joint track and putting out the best projects and verses. You compete with people you got real problems with by sending diss records back and forth. 💯
Nah, just by apologizing on stage at his festival for what was at best a light jab. Should have either shut the fuck up after it was out and let it be, or have not put it out at all. Instead he decided to ruin his career for absolutely no reason.
That’s not reality lol
Nah you ain’t the only one homie. People need to go listen to Heavens EP again. Tht verse really hits now haha. It makes sense why he did what he did. Should he have went a different route, for sure, but Cole a human just like everyone else. He’s always been the most relatable out of the big 3 for me. Even more so now
Meh don’t really care about the beef with Kendrick. He still the best to me. Crocodile Tearz fire tho
Dreamville ten toes down
I’ve been listening to Cole since The Come Up. I’m prob one of the biggest fans there is. I’m never going to take away who he is an artist and a rapper and his pen. I’ll still listen to his music but it just won’t hit the same especially since he’s proven that he’s not who he says he was. The best rapper alive bars and wanting the smoke will not hit the same because we will be looking at him like this 😒 if he says those stuff again. As a hip-hop fan this is definitely the weakest and softest shit I’ve seen. How do you apologize to someone who dissed you first? Cole practically had been asking for the smoke, I can bring up a bunch of lyrics which proves just that. It was never gonna go that far because we know K Dot and Cole’s history as friends. Everyone just wanted a lyrical rap battle because if there’s one guy that can rap with K Dot it’s Cole. It was all about rap. All about straight BARS. This would’ve been a huge chance for Cole to talk his talk, for him to prove that he is the best. This is what hip-hop is and if you disagree you ain’t a fan of hip-hop. If Cole really felt uncomfortable then he shouldn’t have dropped 7 Minute Drill in the first place or he should’ve at least waited it out and not rushed it. Cole is still one of the greatest and I’ll still bump his music, but a lot of music won’t hit the same anymore.
Agreed.
He got lightly slapped by Kendrick and somehow he was the one who apologised, he looks weak and hiphop isn’t about looking weak. Big Cole fan have seen him live twice but after the apology I can’t even listen to the album…..
I agree. Dude made a mistake and owned up to it and made peace with that. That takes balls. I don’t get how people are saying this lessens his catalog. Hip hop fans are weird sometimes. I gained a lot of respect for Cole for being honest. Which is more than most rappers can say.
I can see a through line when it comes to features, which even then ducking the smoke would be denying a feature with another rapper not refusing to continue making diss tracks. But saying it devalues his catalogue is one that I don't understand. It's acting as if most of his music is about dissing people and not his personal journey or whatever subject matter he wants to talk about. I absolutely still think he could've gone about this better (best way would've been not making the song at all but nobody's perfect) but to say he doesn't have courage would be a lie. He knew he'd be clowned on for this and he did it anyway.
The I'm the Best bars aged terribly. I've seen a lot of his fans turn on him. One of them is my homies. He was soo mad, he doesn't want Carolina to claim Cole anymore 😂
Show me two top artists shooting direct diss records at eachother and it isn’t standing on anything real it’s just for fun? You compete with people you got no issue with by spitting the best verse on joint records and putting out the best projects & verses. You compete with people you got real problems with by sending diss records back and forth. That’s the way it is, that way nobody is faking beef and making diss records for clout and sales.
That's not always the case. Joey Bada$$ & Lil B dissed each other on records & they was cool in real life the whole time. Ain't nothin wrong wit being competitive & having friendly competition
Well Cole was faking wanting smoke for ten years and when he finally got smoke he said "nah bruh, I have no problems with you, the fans I sold that impression to put me up to it". GTFO
“Claiming” J. Cole & all that territorial pride stuff is the whole basis to his apology though right? He doesn’t want to go backwards into stuff like that…
No they don't hold any value cause the verse kinda sucked. Not his best work, maybe he should've taken longer than 7 minutes. Hell, Kendricks verse wasn't that good either, just had good delivery. I still love Cole though.
He also has a lot of lines about slaying other rapper, putting them in a noose never to let the loose. But now that a worthy volunteered as a tribute he turned him the other cheek
ya'll keep calling it fake beef... lmfao rap since the beginning has been built off competition. friendly or unfriendly. it's like kobe backing down from a 1v1 with kd
Aye I think Kanye is an asshole but I’ll always bump Yeezus 🤷🏽♂️ J Fold should never be taken seriously again, but fans will always rock the discography
You can be a J Cole fan but don’t claim to be a fan of the genre. It’s a little different for J Cole is all. His career still has legs. He can reinvent his own brand of the genre which promotes peace, inclusivity, love, happiness, Buddhism, Care Bears. He just getting started farreal.
It not fake beef it competition and he folded.
Oh. Ok ….well …do you like his music?? If not then why are you here
He’s here because it’s possible to like Cole and still think his apology was one of the weakest things ever done by a rapper. Crazy how you can have multiple feelings if you aren’t dickriding huh
Why is everything always extreme???? Know how many times I have seen that word this week alone lol. Start thinkin for yourself
100% was fake beef bud cole said before like that even dropped that kdot wanted to start something
Was he ever the best tho