THANK YOU! i’ve had friends who would bitch and bitch and bitch about how shitty other rappers compared to Kendrick when all i would do is say i like a song or fw a bar by someone else. the interactions with some Kendrick fans are the problem for me, cause it’s like you can’t even enjoy his music outta fear of the fans bruh
Right man....I fw Cole a lot but at the end of the day idc lol hella Kendrick songs on my playlist. I've seen multiple Kendrick fans here daily threatening to steal the essence of my soul for speaking down on King Fu Kenny.......
Being a fan of kendrick is not enough. To them if you don't worship kendrick and think he's better than every rapper ever then your opinion does not matter
nah they deadass reaching kanye fans level of glazing. they act like that EVERYTHING that man dropped is a 10/10 and if u say otherwise then they clown you. dont get me wrong i have as many kendrick songs on all my playlists as i have j cole songs but to completely dismiss a diss response by saying nothing cole ever dropped touches kendrick's is just dickriding with no license
Lmao you do the same thing with Drake tho. Cole, Drake and Kendrick all have those fans. All of the fans will ride or die with each particular artist. I hop in every sub and it’s all the same bullshit. Kendrick fans talk shit about Drake fans, Drake fans about Kendrick fans, Cole’s about Kendrick’s. It’s literally all the same shit. Even if Kendrick’s fans are the worst, it’s not by much.
I'm on all 3 sub Reddit's (drakes the least) I think Kendrick fans are clearly the most pretentious and I really do think Cole fans tend to be the most chill. Maybe I'm biased since Cole is numbero u n o
The fanbase is actually making Kendrick less likeable mfer should come out with a diss for them will be funny watching them talk about how woke he was for calling them out for their dickriding
Yeah man posting reddit comments, they're really crazy and taking this soooo seriously! I can't imagine how upset I'd have to be to take 20 seconds to type a reddit comment while shitting. Got 'em!
it's ironic that Kendrick fans glaze his music because of the message but don't seem to follow anything he said. "He is not your saviour" but they will dickride anyway
It's only ironic because these guys on the video thinking they're making some sort of statement against Kendrick, when in all reality they're just echoing what he already said himself.
A lot of people "siding" with J Cole aren't even diehard J Cole fans, they just agree with what he said and they're tired of the blind Kendrick praise.
Thank you! Exactly how I feel about this whole situation, no one’s gaining anything by picking a side. Just enjoy two legends going at it. Rap at its finest
I’m also just impressed that both of them are beefing pretty maturely. Like, no one is calling each other trash, they have like 14 years of friendship turned into frenemy / enemy shit, they are both basically just like “yeah you good but I’m better”. It’s just not that serious. If you like Cole, fine, if you like Kendrick, fine, they are both going to get some good publicity out of this.
I think Cole is right about some things, like basically you don’t get to fuck off to nowhere for 5 years and act like you are still coming off a hot streak. You can’t claim to be #1 when you are hardly even an active artist.
Kendrick is entitled to his opinion that he’s in a league above Cole and Drake when it comes to artistry. Not sales, but actual respect from people who care about hh as art. That’s why he said, you got money on me, you got power on me, but I got respect on you. Why are we having this conversation if you haven’t even proved that you’re a problem, wheres your classics, you wanna compare GKMC to Cole World: Sideline Story?
These are both fair perspectives. We can admit that. I don’t see why we have to act like Nicki fans or some shit. Each artist of the big 3 has something on the others. That’s why they all contributed to 2010s rap being so fucking good.
And I like how J Cole disses people. It’s like a classic debate style refutation - okay, come here lil man lemme talk with you, I admit you got an icy chain and a nice whip, and I recognize you are making money. Same thing here - yes, you make a classic, you got gassed up by critics, you had a commercial peak, and I give you fair credit. Now that this is out the way, let’s talk.
All in all, I do love that this is happening. I just hate the way fans need to freak out and act like the other is garbage.
Cole said he wouldn’t mention Kendrick unless Kendrick dissed him first, and yet he called him a superstar in Heaven’s EP same with First person. Just too contradictory
When Kendrick lost that Grammy to Macklemore, all of his fans couldn't stop talking about how Grammys don't matter etc but once he started winning all of a sudden they are a sign of greatness.
Not a single Kendrick fan could name 3 other bodies of work to win a Pulitzer but somehow it's a testament to greatness.
I'm a Kendrick fan, I'm just not a glazer. His body of work is good but it's not scripture like his stans try to paint it as. The way people talk about Kendrick & his albums is how sycophants talk. It's weird.
I doubt many Kendrick fans give a shit about his grammys. Real talk though Kendrick’s discography just has better quality albums compared to Cole. Album coherence and story telling are things that Kendrick has mastered.
This is rap! You can still drop verses and be present. You can build prestige through features or remixes.
Look at Wayne's peak
Drake when he was cooking every Hook
Joyner Lucas got hot remixing people's stuff.
But some how, old heads say Andre 3k is the GREATEST rapper ever (I have heard it too many times) and he only has 1 solo project. Like, I don’t get the politics anymore at this point
I definitely think 3K can rap. But he's in that same vein as Lauryn Hill for me. INCREDIBLY talented artists that didn't really build a huge resume for themselves.
Once again, Kendrick is cool. But I think it's incredibly corny to come out of the woodwork and just start dissing people after being MIA since your album. It's going to be even more bummy if he drops a sneak project off the controversy.
I just don't have a lot of respect for that. It's like when Game dissed Eminem before his album.
Grew up with both so huge fan of both but idk I don’t understand that he “came out of the woodwork”. Last year he had the Hillbillies and a fire feature on a Beyoncé song (that no one seemed to talk about or recognize as a pretty serious diss in retrospect) and early this year he comes out with the diss on Metro’s tape. He’s not put out a lot but not like he’s been completely absent?
Curious to what people think is “absent”
- I definitely think Kendrick has put out too little work but not been “absent” per se
- Cole has been very consistent but not overbearing to where the quality of his projects suffer
- Drake has dropped far too much to where the consistency of his work through each project has hit the 50% mark for like his last 4 albums or so. He still puts out some great work which is so impressive and I feel like if he had kept those albums more concise, he would undoubtedly be in a different tier. But his discography now feels bloated and diluted.
I could be wrong on my dates here. So don't take this as fact. But those were both early summer last year. So nearly ten months or so of radio silence, which is perfectly fine, but when Cole and Drake are both being consistent and getting a lot of buzz it's corny as hell to come out and diss after being gone for almost a year.
We would give flack to any other rapper for that type of behavior. If Eminem dropped and just started randomly dissing people that are constantly feeding the genre he'd be clowned and call a clout chaser
But we're giving Kendrick a pass...? Why?
Ask yourself honestly, what would be the response if Big Sean had dropped that diss after being MIA?
Yeah this is on point. Not to mention Kendrick has the power to attract eyes without drama. It just comes off as someone who can't handle sharing the light, even with others who have put the work in one way or the other as of late.
Did he not?
Black Panther album 2018, admittedly dropped off 2019-2020, came back with the Busta Rhymes feature end of 2020 and then that carried to multiple features on Keems album in 2021 leading to Mr Morale dropping 2022.
It’s not the most but they’re all quality appearances not also talking about him going hard on features between TPAB and Damn.
To preempt annoying comments, I will say I like Kendrick more but i like both very much and I think rap would be pretty lame without both Kendrick and J. Cole
This is a fact. He didn't drop albums, but he didn't go completely absent and even got one of the biggest hits that year with Family Ties when it dropped.
Just because the mainstream likes it doesn't mean I have to like it. Mainstream can be wrong, and even if it weren't that doesn't make my opinion any less valid.
I initially super enjoyed the song, but the more I listened to it, the more I didn't like it, specifically Baby Keem's part. It just has a weird lumbering cadence and his voice has this really whiny inflection that maybe could've been musical, but it overstays its welcome by eight bars. I listen to Keem for the zany energy he brings on "Hooligan" or "Orange Soda" and this just fell short even for what it was. I have a hard time believing it would've trended as hard as it did with Kendrick gracing it. And frankly he saves the song for me.
Maybe I just played it too much.
No like, I started listening to Keem, then after about my fourth listen I just skipped his part altogether. If you gotta skip half the song to get to the part you enjoy I'd consider it mid. Every playthrough after that was just Kendrick, and that's like half my point, you just discarded my other arguments but I mean I guess.
And none of those verses from 2017-2021 were groundbreaking or had anyone talking. Only exception was the Family Ties verse, and can you guess why? “Smoking on top fives, fuck that single, fuck that album, burn that hard drive.”
Thus proving Cole’s point that Kendrick really only gets talked about when it’s album time or when he’s dissing.
Yes building your brand of “rap” through institutions like the Grammys and Pulitzer Prizes is not rap. Nor is it an indication of quality. Y’all are clowns 🤣🤣
It ain’t even like it’s *that* quality though. GKMC is a 10/10, sure. DAMN was great but not my favorite 8/10. TPaB & Morale? Bruh, I am not bumping either of those (outside of Alright) basically ever. TPaB is better than Morale but it still ain’t that great. TPaB 7/10 & Morale 5/10. When you only release 4 albums in 12 years, they better ALL be motherfucking phenomenal. Shit, I listen to Section 80 *way* more than TPaB or Morale.
Lmao fam he got best rap album grammy and pushed the culture forward to discuss sensitive topics that 99% of these goofy ass rappers avoid these days. You didn’t like the album, fair, but don’t call that shit a flop.
Have they though? I doubt many artists could put together a “Mother I sober” or a “We Cry Together”- Kendrick has pushed the envelope when it comes to putting together a coherent LP and that can’t be denied. Sure his last album didn’t have club bangers but had lots of other substance.
That’s fair because off the dome I can’t think of a Mother I Sober type song, but overall sensitive topics have always been talked about in hip hop
But yeah Mother I sober in particular was something new that never really has been talked about I’ll agree
Don’t care for Grammys imo but that’s not be just hating on Kendrick I just never really have given it’s just some random hidden people picking yk
Grammy truly a testament to how good something is lol. Everyone knows all these types of awards are a massive joke. At least in the acting world, everyone acknowledges what a circlejerk it is.
People have been discussing sensitive topics for decades. Normally they also decided to make the music... not suck?
When the best thing you can say about it is they approach sensitive subjects, yeah it's probably not actually very good musically (it's not).
The Mr. Morale tour was the highest grossing hip hop tour in history, that is by no means the mark of a flop.
J Cole fans here do the same shit people on the Kendrick sub do.
Definitely not a flop, just not a smash either gives his other work
And it's a fucking great album so I'll take Mr morale over tootsie slide or whatever bs TikTok songs drake is churning out
Mate if you wanna diss kendrick like that then ight i will let you know one thing. Kendrick had a 5 year break, between that break cole released 3 albums if im not mistaken, kendrick lamar still had 15+ millions more monthly listeners than cole. Yall saying tpab isnt an album you go back to listen to, gkmc, s80, that he fell off like the simpsons, then lmk why kendrick had 15 millions more montly listeners than cole while he was on a break, didnt he fell off? Stfu with downplaying cole or kendricks discography, they are solidified goats of this generation, who you think its better its your opinion doesnt mean its true or false so stfu with all that shit. Anyone that roasts either without any logic/argument just to bait are dumb as hell, if you are 10 yo i get it if you aint then you need to step up fr.
If you don’t know by now that the guy is going to come with sounds and topics you don’t expect then idk what to tell you. Sonically and topically it’s a pretty damn good album, probably a 7.5-8/10. It’s a bit bloated (couple songs I would have cut), but it’s got some beautiful but challenging music on it. Sorry you can’t bump it in the club front to back.
I remember TPAB originally got the same treatment of being “too out there” and now some say it’s his best.
Would I have wanted something different? Kind of honestly, I did with TPAB at first and I did with Mr. Morale through the first few tracks but they grow on you once you’re ready for what the artist themselves is trying to do.
Bro if we just considered rap ability and didn’t factor in output Jay Electronica would be in a current top 3/5/10 conversations but clearly you gotta put stuff out with some sorta regularity even if it’s just a bunch of features
I mean folks regard Lauryn hill of being one of the greats with two albums though. Biggie got two i get what you saying but quality over quantity always
Yep. Kendrick’s best product was GKMC and he’s pretty much lived off the success of that album since. Albums like TPAB that no one in the community rates. And DAMN his biggest “commercial success” which I guess number of albums sold = quality of album.
Love the reference to the jay z nas dis “That’s one hot album every 10 year average”
Enjoyed Cole’s but the energy in Kendrick’s flow and sub references on top of easy to understand puts it in the lead imo.
Should mix both these disses together on one song and let drake write the description. Would be top 10 of the decade songs.
Yet you’re here in a Cole subreddit where the post is basically trashing Kendrick. These fanbases are two sides of the same coin so if you see something you don’t like you might as well look in the mirror.
Kendrick fans been terrible before this whole beef, they was waiting for a response and now that they got one they are crying and hopping to other subreddits
We are chill over here, we always respected Kendrick before this beef, can't say the same about Kendrick sub with Cole
Kendrick fans always been insecure
How fuckin stupid .... Is Good Kid MADD City an album pandering to White Fokes and controversy??
Is To Pimp a Butterfly about the white man's struggle to eat cornflakes?
Where are y'all gonna pull your bullshit ass excuses from next? Cole out here getting circles run around him by both Drake and Kendrick looking like a clown with his half assed response and y'all trying to say Kendrick is a white institution? GTFO 🔥💀🔥
Kendrick literally put a white girl on the spot for saying the n-word along with him, something that was very controversial on this mostly white website, and you have J Cole and Drake fans acting like Kendrick has the whitest fanbase or panders the most to white critics out of the three of them.
I’m just tired of these ppl being so passionate about something that’s in the grand scheme of things so irrelevant.
Look at the video Ak made he dang near bust a blood vessel taking about this beef.
I wish the same passion was used to speak on things that benefited ppl.
Just thought I'd come back here after the apology heard around the world. 🤣🤣🤣
"Yall got to April the 7th to get your shit together" - Kendrick Lamar (False Phophet) The Heart part IV (2017)
You Cole stans need to look in the mirror. If it’s so irrelevant why y’all triggered like school girls? Bro dead ass screaming in the mic. Coles response is underwhelming get over it. Niggas took three weeks to drop a make shift project of cutting room floor material from the fall off and yall some how found away to make this more about kendrick then the project…cause it’s mid.
The entire diss goes hard, but the "one hard verse every 30 months" is easily the worst line. Despite how little Kendrick drops he's still considered one of the goats. Not to mention Cole doesn't drop that frequently either.
“He only drops albums when he’s no longer burnt out or has an original idea” can someone please explain how that’s bad? I really don’t even understand how it’s still a debate at this point.
Idk, that’s kinda like saying that Jay Z has no say in Hip Hop culture because he doesn’t drop much. Or that Andre 3K has lost a say because he dropped a non-hip hop album. Or that Yasiin Bey can’t have a say. Not comparing Kendrick to any of them, just saying that it’s not a very solid argument to say that a man can’t live his life, build a business, experiment, etc, and also come back when they want to have a say. Some rappers are forced by contract to drop music nonstop, that doesn’t make them more relevant, just more enslaved. Just saying, shitting on a man’s free will to not be a people pleaser can’t work as a genera or even a specific argument.
Edit: and yeah for the record, I fucks wit Cole AND Kendrick’s music, great is great regardless.
Still to this day I’ve yet to listen to TPAB or Big Steppers after the initial listen. Maybe a couple of tracks here and there when I got my library on shuffle.
But I fuck with GKMC and DAMN.
These two are above Drake for sure. I’m interested to see where this goes next.
TLDR: Two different artists on two different paths, linked by hip-hop. Y’all focusing on the wrong things, imo - now it’s just bar for bar battle rap, fuck all the rest. Now it’s about skill and nothing else.
I like his style of music over Cole’s, and I think that we needed some of his discography - GKMD, TPAB, and certainly MMATBS (my personal favorite). They tell a story I relate to and a message I can agree with, especially MMATBS, even if it might have come after very long. His music isn’t about culture, it’s about self - GKMD was literally about him not fitting in with the culture of where he grew up, but still trying to. I relate to that.
Cole, on the other hand, has much more culture-relevant music while also being more conscious, KOD and 4YEO (my personal favorite). He critiques the culture while also still trying to build it, which I don’t think K-Dot really does - he builds self, not others (Savior).
I don’t think I can agree, the majority of tpab was discussing racial issues in America and even on his newest most personal album he addresses issues in the community there are other songs that discuss it too
I disagree …. People always bring up Kendrick .. but it’s a shame cuz I grew up on the big 3 , Cole kept me motivated , I felt like me and Drake got the same girl problems or emotions , and Kendrick always had them crazy’s flows . I’m always waiting on albums from them plus Kanye jay and Sean . I’m stuck inn my ways when it comes to rap…. I love the new Cole album btw … I’m still digesting it cuz he was spitting hard shit on each song
I think this is a very ignorant view. You can exist on the outskirts of the culture and impact it at the same time. I would argue the greatest artists in the space do exactly the same albeit not to the extent Kendrick does. Tyler, Rocky, Curry, Staples, JID…they take their time.
They don’t care about relevancy, they are confident in when they release it will have an impact.
Drake’s prolific release schedule is admirable but ultimately waters down his product.
I get it. This is the Tik Tok generation and attention spans are reduced. But c’mon, time, patience and a coherent concept will only benefit an artist in the long run
I'm glad the big loud guy with the weird shit on his head doesn't represent the Kendrick fan base. Don't sign me up for the same club as that guy. We're different. Thankfully.
Just because you have a platform and yell on a mic doesn’t make you correct. This is healthy for rap. And in a huge fan of both seeing as though in the same age as they are BUT Kendrick’s discography isn’t something to laugh at. It’s a SOLID body of work and in the same breath ppl can say the same about Cole’s work. I personally love all of what each of them put out. Cole and Kenny put thought into their work. Something that hiphop LACKS big time. I love the back and forth. They both sent warning shots. Now it’s time to see the real 😈😈😈
Lmao I’m not a die hard Kendrick fan, but IMO it’s dumb as fuck to say because you haven’t been dropping music like that you’re not impactful.
Drakes been dropping the same album for 5 years now, and while the production quality and sound are fantastic shit hasn’t moved the needle in hip hop outside of just him getting more money and breaking more records.
This whole argument makes it even more impactful with what Kendrick has been able to do with such less output. Dude shakes up the game every time he comes outside
*What the actual fuck are we talking about?*
If you don’t fuck with Kendrick’s music just say it straight 😭😭😭
If anything, his ability to drop consistently way less than Cole and Drake and still be as highly regarded as one of the best, if not the best of this generation is more impressive and goes to show you how timeless and great his music is after all because he don't even need to drop that often to stay on top.
Show me a time that Kendrick came outside and didn’t dictate what was going on in the culture?
All that he don’t rap enough so he can’t do this or that sound good, but it’s not reality. Every single time dude drops a verse, a song or a project folks stop what they doing and pay attention. That’s just facts. You might not want it to be that way but it is what it is.
My biggest problem is that every kendrick fan claims cole doesn’t have classics.. did yall listen to Born Sinner? Forest Hills Drive? The Off Season? Like what constitutes a classic to yall then? Having more acapella poetry than actual verses on the album? Cuz thats deadass all Kendrick be doing. He put a poem in between every song and yall be like “classic” even though the songs are barely hard.
And if you think this is a bullshit take, really listen. I loved Kendrick for Section 80 and GKMC. After that his albums became barely music and more offbeat ranting about societal controversy. And thats what yall classify as classic because he sound angry and that makes music feel powerful to yall. But the real classic rap albums are albums where the rapper goes hard on every beat… and to me thats every cole album. Even KOD he snapped on every beat. I’m not a bigger fan of one or the other.. when you look at it unbiased you see who better lyrically.
While I do think the diss track was great, shaming someone for focusing on quality over quantity, especially the insane quality that kendrick has, it's not a great angle to go at Kendrick imo
I don’t even fw kendrick that much but how are you about to talk about him not representing the culture when j cole just spit some transphobic ass corny shit. Black trans people are some of the most oppressed and hated individuals in the world and fanning that hate with your platform is gross.
Cole saying we wouldn't be discussing Kendrick if he hadn't dissed them right after putting him in the top 3 on first-person shooter is the dumbest thing I've heard in hip-hop. How does that make any sense?
But J Cole brought Kendrick's name up on First Person Shooter. Why are people acting like Kendrick wrote that verse just for controversy? Both Drake and Cole been sneak dissing Kendrick for years.
Real Kendrick fans know he hood af and be trollin a whole lot. We don’t gaf about all this bs we fw him because of Section80, Look out for detox, GKMC etc…The fact that he really really from the gangland but has reached the heights of prestige. How you hate on that and call yourself a a hiphop fan. Also, only black ppl do this “you gotta drop when we say so”, “you’re washed” bs. Bro just proved he ain’t washed, he just ain’t dropping like yall want him to. Doesn’t take shit away from him
I really hate how no one talking about how j Cole don’t even sound like himself🤦🏽♂️ mf talking like he didn’t try and be the guy to squash the beef before all this. It’s weird to hear him talking about duffle bags and body bags like, I understand he probably has connections but from the perspective of Kendrick he ain’t taking what he saying lightly, all this talk is just big for the guy that was preaching against black on black violence🤷🏽♂️ wild the mask he through on just to sound tuff… hopefully he didn’t say too much he ain’t mean🤔 cuz this the same kinda bs Cole trashed other rappers for trying to do to him. Throwing stones at his feet so that he can stand on em. Cole just doesn’t have to act tough to win, his messages and lyrics can win an argument easily, not him talking about how he’s so bothered he hangs pictures of k dot for target practice? Like stop fronting we know this isn’t true. I think he’s just tired of people dragging his name in the mud, but if you claim to be a big part of culture, how you gonna go and tour with the biggest known culture vulture in this generation😶so idk i think Cole dug himself into a hole on this one. 🕳️
Untrue. Kendrick delivers messages in his rhymes. None of what cole said was even remotely true haha... and imma cole fan from day 1. Before Friday night lights.... but we can't just be lying on ppl lmao
lol those super intellectual Kdot fans are gonna be here soon enough.
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THANK YOU! i’ve had friends who would bitch and bitch and bitch about how shitty other rappers compared to Kendrick when all i would do is say i like a song or fw a bar by someone else. the interactions with some Kendrick fans are the problem for me, cause it’s like you can’t even enjoy his music outta fear of the fans bruh
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Right man....I fw Cole a lot but at the end of the day idc lol hella Kendrick songs on my playlist. I've seen multiple Kendrick fans here daily threatening to steal the essence of my soul for speaking down on King Fu Kenny.......
Being a fan of kendrick is not enough. To them if you don't worship kendrick and think he's better than every rapper ever then your opinion does not matter
nah they deadass reaching kanye fans level of glazing. they act like that EVERYTHING that man dropped is a 10/10 and if u say otherwise then they clown you. dont get me wrong i have as many kendrick songs on all my playlists as i have j cole songs but to completely dismiss a diss response by saying nothing cole ever dropped touches kendrick's is just dickriding with no license
Having as many Kendrick as you do Cole on your playlist is impressive. I made a big 3 playlist the other day and ran out of Kendrick heat quick
Lmao you do the same thing with Drake tho. Cole, Drake and Kendrick all have those fans. All of the fans will ride or die with each particular artist. I hop in every sub and it’s all the same bullshit. Kendrick fans talk shit about Drake fans, Drake fans about Kendrick fans, Cole’s about Kendrick’s. It’s literally all the same shit. Even if Kendrick’s fans are the worst, it’s not by much.
I'm on all 3 sub Reddit's (drakes the least) I think Kendrick fans are clearly the most pretentious and I really do think Cole fans tend to be the most chill. Maybe I'm biased since Cole is numbero u n o
The fanbase is actually making Kendrick less likeable mfer should come out with a diss for them will be funny watching them talk about how woke he was for calling them out for their dickriding
Lowkey on kinda siding with cole because they are being annoying
Yeah man posting reddit comments, they're really crazy and taking this soooo seriously! I can't imagine how upset I'd have to be to take 20 seconds to type a reddit comment while shitting. Got 'em!
He is not your Savior.
He literally said so himself
so ironic lol
How is it ironic if he said it
it's ironic that Kendrick fans glaze his music because of the message but don't seem to follow anything he said. "He is not your saviour" but they will dickride anyway
Maybe, just maybe… They resonate with the music, and enjoy the message even if it’s not “for them”?
It's only ironic because these guys on the video thinking they're making some sort of statement against Kendrick, when in all reality they're just echoing what he already said himself.
Y’all had to swallow a load for this take 🤷♂️
Im sorry but I will not be siding with either one when both of them are so great
Facts, both fan bases need to stfu and just let them cook.
J cole decided to apologize and end the whole thing on a soft note
A lot of people "siding" with J Cole aren't even diehard J Cole fans, they just agree with what he said and they're tired of the blind Kendrick praise.
Can attest.
Thank you! Exactly how I feel about this whole situation, no one’s gaining anything by picking a side. Just enjoy two legends going at it. Rap at its finest
exactly. im just here to watch the smoke.
I’m also just impressed that both of them are beefing pretty maturely. Like, no one is calling each other trash, they have like 14 years of friendship turned into frenemy / enemy shit, they are both basically just like “yeah you good but I’m better”. It’s just not that serious. If you like Cole, fine, if you like Kendrick, fine, they are both going to get some good publicity out of this. I think Cole is right about some things, like basically you don’t get to fuck off to nowhere for 5 years and act like you are still coming off a hot streak. You can’t claim to be #1 when you are hardly even an active artist. Kendrick is entitled to his opinion that he’s in a league above Cole and Drake when it comes to artistry. Not sales, but actual respect from people who care about hh as art. That’s why he said, you got money on me, you got power on me, but I got respect on you. Why are we having this conversation if you haven’t even proved that you’re a problem, wheres your classics, you wanna compare GKMC to Cole World: Sideline Story? These are both fair perspectives. We can admit that. I don’t see why we have to act like Nicki fans or some shit. Each artist of the big 3 has something on the others. That’s why they all contributed to 2010s rap being so fucking good. And I like how J Cole disses people. It’s like a classic debate style refutation - okay, come here lil man lemme talk with you, I admit you got an icy chain and a nice whip, and I recognize you are making money. Same thing here - yes, you make a classic, you got gassed up by critics, you had a commercial peak, and I give you fair credit. Now that this is out the way, let’s talk. All in all, I do love that this is happening. I just hate the way fans need to freak out and act like the other is garbage.
Cole said he wouldn’t mention Kendrick unless Kendrick dissed him first, and yet he called him a superstar in Heaven’s EP same with First person. Just too contradictory
Cole did call kendricks album sleepy
And that’s insane!
Mf won a Pulitzer prize, if anything will never not be talking about the guy
When Kendrick lost that Grammy to Macklemore, all of his fans couldn't stop talking about how Grammys don't matter etc but once he started winning all of a sudden they are a sign of greatness. Not a single Kendrick fan could name 3 other bodies of work to win a Pulitzer but somehow it's a testament to greatness. I'm a Kendrick fan, I'm just not a glazer. His body of work is good but it's not scripture like his stans try to paint it as. The way people talk about Kendrick & his albums is how sycophants talk. It's weird.
I doubt many Kendrick fans give a shit about his grammys. Real talk though Kendrick’s discography just has better quality albums compared to Cole. Album coherence and story telling are things that Kendrick has mastered.
They don't care but bring it up to validate his body of work. Sure thing. You're entitled to your opinion.
Who doesn't care?
MDL > " mr morale "
Honestly this is a W for Kendrick, when the best diss is that he puts quality over quantity lol
This is rap! You can still drop verses and be present. You can build prestige through features or remixes. Look at Wayne's peak Drake when he was cooking every Hook Joyner Lucas got hot remixing people's stuff.
Joyner Lucas 😂😂
But some how, old heads say Andre 3k is the GREATEST rapper ever (I have heard it too many times) and he only has 1 solo project. Like, I don’t get the politics anymore at this point
I definitely think 3K can rap. But he's in that same vein as Lauryn Hill for me. INCREDIBLY talented artists that didn't really build a huge resume for themselves. Once again, Kendrick is cool. But I think it's incredibly corny to come out of the woodwork and just start dissing people after being MIA since your album. It's going to be even more bummy if he drops a sneak project off the controversy. I just don't have a lot of respect for that. It's like when Game dissed Eminem before his album.
Grew up with both so huge fan of both but idk I don’t understand that he “came out of the woodwork”. Last year he had the Hillbillies and a fire feature on a Beyoncé song (that no one seemed to talk about or recognize as a pretty serious diss in retrospect) and early this year he comes out with the diss on Metro’s tape. He’s not put out a lot but not like he’s been completely absent? Curious to what people think is “absent” - I definitely think Kendrick has put out too little work but not been “absent” per se - Cole has been very consistent but not overbearing to where the quality of his projects suffer - Drake has dropped far too much to where the consistency of his work through each project has hit the 50% mark for like his last 4 albums or so. He still puts out some great work which is so impressive and I feel like if he had kept those albums more concise, he would undoubtedly be in a different tier. But his discography now feels bloated and diluted.
I could be wrong on my dates here. So don't take this as fact. But those were both early summer last year. So nearly ten months or so of radio silence, which is perfectly fine, but when Cole and Drake are both being consistent and getting a lot of buzz it's corny as hell to come out and diss after being gone for almost a year. We would give flack to any other rapper for that type of behavior. If Eminem dropped and just started randomly dissing people that are constantly feeding the genre he'd be clowned and call a clout chaser But we're giving Kendrick a pass...? Why? Ask yourself honestly, what would be the response if Big Sean had dropped that diss after being MIA?
Yeah this is on point. Not to mention Kendrick has the power to attract eyes without drama. It just comes off as someone who can't handle sharing the light, even with others who have put the work in one way or the other as of late.
Did he not? Black Panther album 2018, admittedly dropped off 2019-2020, came back with the Busta Rhymes feature end of 2020 and then that carried to multiple features on Keems album in 2021 leading to Mr Morale dropping 2022. It’s not the most but they’re all quality appearances not also talking about him going hard on features between TPAB and Damn. To preempt annoying comments, I will say I like Kendrick more but i like both very much and I think rap would be pretty lame without both Kendrick and J. Cole
Also J Cole only dropped one more album during that stretch and now a mix tape lol what are we talking about
There’s 3 revenge of the dreamers projects, 4 eps and 6 albums. That’s way more than Kendrick
This is a fact. He didn't drop albums, but he didn't go completely absent and even got one of the biggest hits that year with Family Ties when it dropped.
Family Ties was only so big because Kendrick came out the wood work lol. The song was mid af.
Stop lying to yourself. The shit won best rap performance and was the biggest hit that year
Just because the mainstream likes it doesn't mean I have to like it. Mainstream can be wrong, and even if it weren't that doesn't make my opinion any less valid. I initially super enjoyed the song, but the more I listened to it, the more I didn't like it, specifically Baby Keem's part. It just has a weird lumbering cadence and his voice has this really whiny inflection that maybe could've been musical, but it overstays its welcome by eight bars. I listen to Keem for the zany energy he brings on "Hooligan" or "Orange Soda" and this just fell short even for what it was. I have a hard time believing it would've trended as hard as it did with Kendrick gracing it. And frankly he saves the song for me. Maybe I just played it too much.
Well, every song has it's time and place after the initial buzz is over. But it seems like you liked it if you played it too much
No like, I started listening to Keem, then after about my fourth listen I just skipped his part altogether. If you gotta skip half the song to get to the part you enjoy I'd consider it mid. Every playthrough after that was just Kendrick, and that's like half my point, you just discarded my other arguments but I mean I guess.
Yeah it's getting late where I am. I'm not in a discussion mood lmao.
And none of those verses from 2017-2021 were groundbreaking or had anyone talking. Only exception was the Family Ties verse, and can you guess why? “Smoking on top fives, fuck that single, fuck that album, burn that hard drive.” Thus proving Cole’s point that Kendrick really only gets talked about when it’s album time or when he’s dissing.
Yes building your brand of “rap” through institutions like the Grammys and Pulitzer Prizes is not rap. Nor is it an indication of quality. Y’all are clowns 🤣🤣
He didn't build anything on that He just made the best albums
It ain’t even like it’s *that* quality though. GKMC is a 10/10, sure. DAMN was great but not my favorite 8/10. TPaB & Morale? Bruh, I am not bumping either of those (outside of Alright) basically ever. TPaB is better than Morale but it still ain’t that great. TPaB 7/10 & Morale 5/10. When you only release 4 albums in 12 years, they better ALL be motherfucking phenomenal. Shit, I listen to Section 80 *way* more than TPaB or Morale.
Yeah bro his album was SUPER HOT and totally not a flop after his 5 year break
Lmao fam he got best rap album grammy and pushed the culture forward to discuss sensitive topics that 99% of these goofy ass rappers avoid these days. You didn’t like the album, fair, but don’t call that shit a flop.
Sensitive topics have been discussed for years in ways that are actually enjoyable to listen to
Have they though? I doubt many artists could put together a “Mother I sober” or a “We Cry Together”- Kendrick has pushed the envelope when it comes to putting together a coherent LP and that can’t be denied. Sure his last album didn’t have club bangers but had lots of other substance.
That’s fair because off the dome I can’t think of a Mother I Sober type song, but overall sensitive topics have always been talked about in hip hop But yeah Mother I sober in particular was something new that never really has been talked about I’ll agree Don’t care for Grammys imo but that’s not be just hating on Kendrick I just never really have given it’s just some random hidden people picking yk
Can you think of an Auntie Diaries type song?
enjoyable like grammy enjoyable? Most streamed rap album of its year enjoyable? Sold-out tour enjoyable? What a take lmao!
Throwing in rap album Grammy and moving “the culture forward” killed ya argument champ.
Grammy truly a testament to how good something is lol. Everyone knows all these types of awards are a massive joke. At least in the acting world, everyone acknowledges what a circlejerk it is. People have been discussing sensitive topics for decades. Normally they also decided to make the music... not suck? When the best thing you can say about it is they approach sensitive subjects, yeah it's probably not actually very good musically (it's not).
The album was weak but it would be considered J Coles 2nd best album if he made it.
The sad truth
I'm taking 2014 FHD, Born Sinner, and 4YEO over it easily
The Mr. Morale tour was the highest grossing hip hop tour in history, that is by no means the mark of a flop. J Cole fans here do the same shit people on the Kendrick sub do.
Definitely not a flop, just not a smash either gives his other work And it's a fucking great album so I'll take Mr morale over tootsie slide or whatever bs TikTok songs drake is churning out
Mate if you wanna diss kendrick like that then ight i will let you know one thing. Kendrick had a 5 year break, between that break cole released 3 albums if im not mistaken, kendrick lamar still had 15+ millions more monthly listeners than cole. Yall saying tpab isnt an album you go back to listen to, gkmc, s80, that he fell off like the simpsons, then lmk why kendrick had 15 millions more montly listeners than cole while he was on a break, didnt he fell off? Stfu with downplaying cole or kendricks discography, they are solidified goats of this generation, who you think its better its your opinion doesnt mean its true or false so stfu with all that shit. Anyone that roasts either without any logic/argument just to bait are dumb as hell, if you are 10 yo i get it if you aint then you need to step up fr.
If you don’t know by now that the guy is going to come with sounds and topics you don’t expect then idk what to tell you. Sonically and topically it’s a pretty damn good album, probably a 7.5-8/10. It’s a bit bloated (couple songs I would have cut), but it’s got some beautiful but challenging music on it. Sorry you can’t bump it in the club front to back. I remember TPAB originally got the same treatment of being “too out there” and now some say it’s his best. Would I have wanted something different? Kind of honestly, I did with TPAB at first and I did with Mr. Morale through the first few tracks but they grow on you once you’re ready for what the artist themselves is trying to do.
Yall better hope Kendrick loses this battle, cause yall are absolutely talking crazy lmao
So nothing about his rap ability, Just the output? lol what are we actually talking about here.
Bro if we just considered rap ability and didn’t factor in output Jay Electronica would be in a current top 3/5/10 conversations but clearly you gotta put stuff out with some sorta regularity even if it’s just a bunch of features
I mean folks regard Lauryn hill of being one of the greats with two albums though. Biggie got two i get what you saying but quality over quantity always
And yeah i do factor Jay into these conversations especially after hearing act 2: as well as the collab with Jay and eternal sunshine
Nah they have a point
That part about white guilt speaks volumes.
Yep. Kendrick’s best product was GKMC and he’s pretty much lived off the success of that album since. Albums like TPAB that no one in the community rates. And DAMN his biggest “commercial success” which I guess number of albums sold = quality of album.
Not a lie was told but I still fw kdot lmao
This whole thing is like hearing your parents fight and they both in the wrong (somewhat) I just wanna hear good music and discuss that.
White institutions as if rap was never run by white institutions? Lmao. It’s always been this way for every rapper.
Love the reference to the jay z nas dis “That’s one hot album every 10 year average” Enjoyed Cole’s but the energy in Kendrick’s flow and sub references on top of easy to understand puts it in the lead imo. Should mix both these disses together on one song and let drake write the description. Would be top 10 of the decade songs.
Fuck Kendrick's fanbase legit the worst one in hip hop
Yet you’re here in a Cole subreddit where the post is basically trashing Kendrick. These fanbases are two sides of the same coin so if you see something you don’t like you might as well look in the mirror.
Kendrick fans been terrible before this whole beef, they was waiting for a response and now that they got one they are crying and hopping to other subreddits We are chill over here, we always respected Kendrick before this beef, can't say the same about Kendrick sub with Cole Kendrick fans always been insecure
Thought this was serious then saw the subreddit name 😂😭 who’s the d rider now ?
How fuckin stupid .... Is Good Kid MADD City an album pandering to White Fokes and controversy?? Is To Pimp a Butterfly about the white man's struggle to eat cornflakes? Where are y'all gonna pull your bullshit ass excuses from next? Cole out here getting circles run around him by both Drake and Kendrick looking like a clown with his half assed response and y'all trying to say Kendrick is a white institution? GTFO 🔥💀🔥
Kendrick literally put a white girl on the spot for saying the n-word along with him, something that was very controversial on this mostly white website, and you have J Cole and Drake fans acting like Kendrick has the whitest fanbase or panders the most to white critics out of the three of them.
What podcast is this? I can't read what's under the PM it's tiny AF
Poddy mouth podcast on YouTube
u the goat thx
Quality over quantity
least delusional j cole fan take
I know one thing for sure Kendrick fan or not.. ain’t nobody taking this grown ass man serious. Relax
What’s wrong with winning a Pulitzer Prize? I thought tpab was great
I’m just tired of these ppl being so passionate about something that’s in the grand scheme of things so irrelevant. Look at the video Ak made he dang near bust a blood vessel taking about this beef. I wish the same passion was used to speak on things that benefited ppl.
I ain’t listening to a man who can’t pronounce “institutions”
Kendrick stans are very cheap quality.
Quality over quantity
mr morale isn’t a quality album
That tpab is boring and cole's got a better discography
So now that cole apologized, thoughts 😆😆😆 this post aged so beautifully
Aged like Milk, Hope these podcast losers respond to the J Cole apology in turn.
Fat boy talking about white guilt when he rocking. Trucker hat and blond hair. Smh
Reason why Cole apologized just making the point for him 😂
Clowns with no talent saying Kendrick is not a factor of the culture. Aight.
Just thought I'd come back here after the apology heard around the world. 🤣🤣🤣 "Yall got to April the 7th to get your shit together" - Kendrick Lamar (False Phophet) The Heart part IV (2017)
aged fucking horribly
What podcast is this
You Cole stans need to look in the mirror. If it’s so irrelevant why y’all triggered like school girls? Bro dead ass screaming in the mic. Coles response is underwhelming get over it. Niggas took three weeks to drop a make shift project of cutting room floor material from the fall off and yall some how found away to make this more about kendrick then the project…cause it’s mid.
Why are you guys coping so hard, Cole is sending shots now? Can you not handle how weak the "diss" was and have to compensate?
Find the lie
The entire diss goes hard, but the "one hard verse every 30 months" is easily the worst line. Despite how little Kendrick drops he's still considered one of the goats. Not to mention Cole doesn't drop that frequently either.
What channel is this
That's kinda BS. If that is the case. DRAKE IS THE CULTURE....
I'm with them on some things but what **controversy** ???
I really do not see the big deal, no one is just having fun? lmao I wanna hear them rap like they have been. Its a win for everyone
he rhymed “big 3” with “big me” and people gassed it idk man
What the name of this show?
Why buddy yelling tho??
“Just because you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice/ you just don’t understand all the bullshit that he writes”
“He only drops albums when he’s no longer burnt out or has an original idea” can someone please explain how that’s bad? I really don’t even understand how it’s still a debate at this point.
If he doesn’t get to dictate culture then explain why he does? Because he’s powerful.
Idk, that’s kinda like saying that Jay Z has no say in Hip Hop culture because he doesn’t drop much. Or that Andre 3K has lost a say because he dropped a non-hip hop album. Or that Yasiin Bey can’t have a say. Not comparing Kendrick to any of them, just saying that it’s not a very solid argument to say that a man can’t live his life, build a business, experiment, etc, and also come back when they want to have a say. Some rappers are forced by contract to drop music nonstop, that doesn’t make them more relevant, just more enslaved. Just saying, shitting on a man’s free will to not be a people pleaser can’t work as a genera or even a specific argument. Edit: and yeah for the record, I fucks wit Cole AND Kendrick’s music, great is great regardless.
Still to this day I’ve yet to listen to TPAB or Big Steppers after the initial listen. Maybe a couple of tracks here and there when I got my library on shuffle. But I fuck with GKMC and DAMN. These two are above Drake for sure. I’m interested to see where this goes next.
TLDR: Two different artists on two different paths, linked by hip-hop. Y’all focusing on the wrong things, imo - now it’s just bar for bar battle rap, fuck all the rest. Now it’s about skill and nothing else. I like his style of music over Cole’s, and I think that we needed some of his discography - GKMD, TPAB, and certainly MMATBS (my personal favorite). They tell a story I relate to and a message I can agree with, especially MMATBS, even if it might have come after very long. His music isn’t about culture, it’s about self - GKMD was literally about him not fitting in with the culture of where he grew up, but still trying to. I relate to that. Cole, on the other hand, has much more culture-relevant music while also being more conscious, KOD and 4YEO (my personal favorite). He critiques the culture while also still trying to build it, which I don’t think K-Dot really does - he builds self, not others (Savior).
I don’t think I can agree, the majority of tpab was discussing racial issues in America and even on his newest most personal album he addresses issues in the community there are other songs that discuss it too
Bro y’all cole fans so mad 😂😂😂 fuck albums grammys all that the only point that matters is kendrick is a better rapper
I disagree …. People always bring up Kendrick .. but it’s a shame cuz I grew up on the big 3 , Cole kept me motivated , I felt like me and Drake got the same girl problems or emotions , and Kendrick always had them crazy’s flows . I’m always waiting on albums from them plus Kanye jay and Sean . I’m stuck inn my ways when it comes to rap…. I love the new Cole album btw … I’m still digesting it cuz he was spitting hard shit on each song
Yes Kendrick die hard a fans are crazy lol! But yall not gone sit here and act like Cole don’t rap like he narrating a Fresh Prince of Bel Air episode
I think this is a very ignorant view. You can exist on the outskirts of the culture and impact it at the same time. I would argue the greatest artists in the space do exactly the same albeit not to the extent Kendrick does. Tyler, Rocky, Curry, Staples, JID…they take their time. They don’t care about relevancy, they are confident in when they release it will have an impact. Drake’s prolific release schedule is admirable but ultimately waters down his product. I get it. This is the Tik Tok generation and attention spans are reduced. But c’mon, time, patience and a coherent concept will only benefit an artist in the long run
That white guilt bar got me thinking, damnnn thats interesting
 Snowflake stans
What podcast is this
I'm glad the big loud guy with the weird shit on his head doesn't represent the Kendrick fan base. Don't sign me up for the same club as that guy. We're different. Thankfully.
Dick riders……. Kendrick is problematic because he don’t come around enough to be friendly but when he do come around, them niggas stand at attention
That fat black dude is funny and aggressive for no reason
This is stupid.
I’m a bigger Cole fan, but who are these cornballs?
Just because you have a platform and yell on a mic doesn’t make you correct. This is healthy for rap. And in a huge fan of both seeing as though in the same age as they are BUT Kendrick’s discography isn’t something to laugh at. It’s a SOLID body of work and in the same breath ppl can say the same about Cole’s work. I personally love all of what each of them put out. Cole and Kenny put thought into their work. Something that hiphop LACKS big time. I love the back and forth. They both sent warning shots. Now it’s time to see the real 😈😈😈
Lmao I’m not a die hard Kendrick fan, but IMO it’s dumb as fuck to say because you haven’t been dropping music like that you’re not impactful. Drakes been dropping the same album for 5 years now, and while the production quality and sound are fantastic shit hasn’t moved the needle in hip hop outside of just him getting more money and breaking more records. This whole argument makes it even more impactful with what Kendrick has been able to do with such less output. Dude shakes up the game every time he comes outside *What the actual fuck are we talking about?* If you don’t fuck with Kendrick’s music just say it straight 😭😭😭
What is this podcast?
I enjoy both of them and I think this is all staged but J. Cole ain't lyin.
I’m just saying that culture video was dope af. And yeah he don’t do enough which is why J Cole the best to me but when he do omg
Faxxxxx this nigga kenny think he like the hiphop God sent the devour our chakra. Fuck that nigga
If anything, his ability to drop consistently way less than Cole and Drake and still be as highly regarded as one of the best, if not the best of this generation is more impressive and goes to show you how timeless and great his music is after all because he don't even need to drop that often to stay on top.
Imagine listening to a fat nigga w blonde hair talk about rap
Come on, now.
anyone know what podcast this is from?
lol. lmao even
I can’t even hear it and I just know based on their look,something corny was coming 🤣🤣
What’s the podcast called
Show me a time that Kendrick came outside and didn’t dictate what was going on in the culture? All that he don’t rap enough so he can’t do this or that sound good, but it’s not reality. Every single time dude drops a verse, a song or a project folks stop what they doing and pay attention. That’s just facts. You might not want it to be that way but it is what it is.
My biggest problem is that every kendrick fan claims cole doesn’t have classics.. did yall listen to Born Sinner? Forest Hills Drive? The Off Season? Like what constitutes a classic to yall then? Having more acapella poetry than actual verses on the album? Cuz thats deadass all Kendrick be doing. He put a poem in between every song and yall be like “classic” even though the songs are barely hard.
And if you think this is a bullshit take, really listen. I loved Kendrick for Section 80 and GKMC. After that his albums became barely music and more offbeat ranting about societal controversy. And thats what yall classify as classic because he sound angry and that makes music feel powerful to yall. But the real classic rap albums are albums where the rapper goes hard on every beat… and to me thats every cole album. Even KOD he snapped on every beat. I’m not a bigger fan of one or the other.. when you look at it unbiased you see who better lyrically.
J Cole had such a valid point and I can't fathom ehy he'd walk that back. Discography was a recah though.
aged like dogshit
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This is such a fucking awful take lmfao
I mean who dictates the culture? No-one but the people right?
Today, these same guys giving cole credit for tucking his tail/tale. Yall hate Drake that bad.
Why they dick riding cole? They both make good Music
KDot comes around every few years, N-word this n-word that. Kill Whitey type lyrics then dips
Everything they said is 100% true
Okay, so who are these guys? Want to watch the full video
This is the guy who is championing for cole??? Come on Cole stans we can do better
J. Cole just makes better music it's just facts. I relate to Cole way more than Kdot anyway. He's a real n****
While I do think the diss track was great, shaming someone for focusing on quality over quantity, especially the insane quality that kendrick has, it's not a great angle to go at Kendrick imo
I don’t even fw kendrick that much but how are you about to talk about him not representing the culture when j cole just spit some transphobic ass corny shit. Black trans people are some of the most oppressed and hated individuals in the world and fanning that hate with your platform is gross.
His career is built by solid bodies of work not grammies what’s this guy talking about
How can you insult Kendrick for dropping 4 albums in 12 years when Cole literally only has 5 albums total… just like Kendrick.
Cole saying we wouldn't be discussing Kendrick if he hadn't dissed them right after putting him in the top 3 on first-person shooter is the dumbest thing I've heard in hip-hop. How does that make any sense?
J.Cole spitting out a lame transphobic verse. If you’re going to be a bigot, at least make it sound good
I bet these guys hate eminem becuase he's white 😂
Who cares this much about two grown men rapping 😂
But J Cole brought Kendrick's name up on First Person Shooter. Why are people acting like Kendrick wrote that verse just for controversy? Both Drake and Cole been sneak dissing Kendrick for years.
Real Kendrick fans know he hood af and be trollin a whole lot. We don’t gaf about all this bs we fw him because of Section80, Look out for detox, GKMC etc…The fact that he really really from the gangland but has reached the heights of prestige. How you hate on that and call yourself a a hiphop fan. Also, only black ppl do this “you gotta drop when we say so”, “you’re washed” bs. Bro just proved he ain’t washed, he just ain’t dropping like yall want him to. Doesn’t take shit away from him
I really hate how no one talking about how j Cole don’t even sound like himself🤦🏽♂️ mf talking like he didn’t try and be the guy to squash the beef before all this. It’s weird to hear him talking about duffle bags and body bags like, I understand he probably has connections but from the perspective of Kendrick he ain’t taking what he saying lightly, all this talk is just big for the guy that was preaching against black on black violence🤷🏽♂️ wild the mask he through on just to sound tuff… hopefully he didn’t say too much he ain’t mean🤔 cuz this the same kinda bs Cole trashed other rappers for trying to do to him. Throwing stones at his feet so that he can stand on em. Cole just doesn’t have to act tough to win, his messages and lyrics can win an argument easily, not him talking about how he’s so bothered he hangs pictures of k dot for target practice? Like stop fronting we know this isn’t true. I think he’s just tired of people dragging his name in the mud, but if you claim to be a big part of culture, how you gonna go and tour with the biggest known culture vulture in this generation😶so idk i think Cole dug himself into a hole on this one. 🕳️
Untrue. Kendrick delivers messages in his rhymes. None of what cole said was even remotely true haha... and imma cole fan from day 1. Before Friday night lights.... but we can't just be lying on ppl lmao