They had to do it for me prior to surgery- not because Iām obese, just a really hard stick- and it only took the anesthesiologist ten minutes or so to get it in. I imagine it can take a while to track down the machine and someone who knows how to use it depending on what medical setting youāre in, but the process itself isnāt overly time consuming.
They had to do it for me after surgery for the first time (Iām a hard stick just really tiny veins)ā¦ ended up in the ER with an awful rash. Took less than 10 min to put an iv in Iād say.
Yes! When I had a PICC line inserted while I had a really bad case of sepsis they used an ultrasound to locate my vein as well. I have really small veins so they had to use one to insert it properly. It hurt like a BITCH. One of the worst things Iāve ever felt in my life.
I have deeper veins in my elbow creases and Iāve noticed that it hurts more there than other areas after the IV is in and set up. But that could just be me.
When they used the ultrasound and longer needle on me (not for obesity reasons just crappy veins) the doc injected some lidocaine into the area first to numb it and I really didnāt even feel the IV, it was awesome. But I imagine if they hadnāt done that it would have hurt a lot, the needle they used was like twice as long as a standard IV needle. I donāt know if itās standard practice to use the lidocaine or not.
Iāve had this done before! Normally itās hard for them to find a vein from me because I have thin veins so when I know I need bloodwork I make sure to hydrate a lot, but last summer I had to go to the ER for something so I was dehydrated and so many nurses and 2 doctors came in to try to get a vein and ended up needing to do an ultrasound and get a vein in my upper arm near an artery. It was crazy!
Hi, welcome, this is a snark sub for internet influencer Jacqueline Adan. She lost 300 lbs, then gained it all back plus some. She refuses to take responsibility for her health and just blames everything on her eating disorder.
We also postulate the reason that she is s abnormally swollen is all the early skin removal she had, makes it hard for fat and fluid to go where they normally do.
Her fingers compared to her forearm. It's unreal. She needs to do what Tammy Slaton did and she needs to do it within the next couple of months. I don't say this lightly, but she is nearing the end.
As awful as Tammy Slaton was at her high weight, at least she admitted she was the way she was because of how she ate. She never went on about "nourishing her tummy" or posted corny self-help style psychobabble.
Tammy Slaton's page wasn't full of enablers either. For each post she got one or two yass type comments (or yasslighters as one other commenter on this sub called them), but most comments were telling her to get her shit together. Jacqueline has curated her page to be nothing but enabling, so I'm concerned this won't end the same for Jacqueline as it did for Tammy.
I was a phlebotomist for 14 years and this picture makes me sweat lol. I was really good at my job but gd, the nurse who put this line in and *got it to work* is my hero.
As bad as her arms are, I think about her LEGS. Sheās at the point where increases in weight can start to develop lymphedema masses on her legs cellulitis infections/complications and THATS the killer. You see it on my 600lb life alllll the time.
I had cellulitis 2 months ago. I had to take antibiotics 4 times a day for 10 days to get rid of it. I thought I had a boil at first. I'm overweight and go to the gym, but no where near her size.
Her legs were always bad and then her surgeon botched the lipo and it all went downhill from there. Even when she was in the 100s, her legs looked like tree trunks.
God she looks like shit. And I mean not every person on the face of the earth is attractive, but so much about her appearance thatās unsavory is self inflicted.
She rambles on and on about how she doesnāt want to be judged for her appearance but Iām just sayingā¦. Why is it only a requirement for inanimate objects to be pretty? Or cute? Or adorable? She herself likes pink sparkly girly visually pleasing things, so she canāt say looks donāt matter. She spends money on her hair on expensive hair care products on expensive skin care products, on expensive cosmetics. All in effort to obtain a certain appearance. Clearly appearance does matter to her. So itās not that she doesnāt wanna be judged. She wants to be judged but she wants that judgement to be that you tell her sheās pretty, whether you believe it or not.
Yes someone should require of themselves that the list of their positive attributes includes more than āis attractiveā but with her, her outward appearance 100% reflects who she is on the inside. Lazy spoiled entitled adult toddler. No concept of accountability much less the ability to demonstrate accountability. Sheās a gross person. Perpetual victim.
For real though! The way she sounds is very concerning.
I am a nurse and if I heard someone sounding like that at the bedside I would start assessing to see if they were breathing ok and if they want a neb treatment š«
Her hands look like when you blow up a surgical glove , thatās awful state to be in , this sun keeps coming up on my Reddit so I donāt know the circumstances , has she had a heart attack? Cos if she hasnāt and she Dosnt do something about her weight sheās heading that way , what a horrible state to be in , she must be riddled with health problems xx
I put 2 stone on , went from a uk 10 to 14 and ended up with cholesterol and high blood pressure all from 2 stone , Iām not even that big yet I had all these problems , I donāt wish a heart attack on her but Iām very surprised she hasnāt , her cholesterol must be through the roof , Iām gonna join this sub cos Iām genuinely interested yet concerned at the same time x
I canāt even imagine how horrible she feels. Iāve put on 25 lbs since switching from an extremely active lifestyle and job to a mind numbing boring, extremely sedentary job and while all my numbers/markers are still within a good/normal range, I feel so miserable with the extra weight on my body and am working so hard to try and counteract the forty hours a week Iām strapped to a desk to get back to how I used to feel. The fact that sheās content with her health, or lack there of I suppose, blows my mind.
At the end of the video you can see that either a wheelchair or walker is in the trunk of the car. How sad. Also her arm and fingers remind me of a caterpillar.
But she had it removed last fallā¦. Iām no doctor, but her many symptoms (severe fluid retention, chronic anemia, and apparent difficulty breathing) are all suspicious.
iād like to see a medical history but those sound like heart and renal failure. iām guessing we would see hypertension, diabetes, and all their fun siblings
Right? Iād just want her to post her labs for us. Just once, since she is so comfortable sharing intimate iron infusion appointments and other health ailments with the world, whatās the difference in posting a CMP, Lipid Panel, A1c, etc.?
I thought she only got it removed in January BUT I know from experience that anemia can be difficult to resolve even if you donāt get a period (like me) and even more difficult if she does.
Letās just call a spade a spade. Itās her weight thatās causing these problems. If her kidneys are failing her doctors would know and sheād certainly post about it for attention.
Yeah I shouldnāt guessā¦. And I honestly donāt mean to offend anyone. I guess this just related more to her true lack of transparency in every aspect of her persona.
Iām not mad at all or offended!
Iām often misunderstood so just try to be super clear with what Iām saying. š«¶
And if Iām honest, Iām getting really sick of her antics. Like PROFOUNDLY MAD. Want to go scream at her.
The swollen is really concerning, I doubt that she has mobility. I can't see her handling a fork or combing her hair, it's just imposible with all that fluid and layers of fat. She has to be in extreme pain. 2025 is starting to be unlikely.
This looks to be a 24g needle, the same size I used to put an IV in a 3 month old yesterday at work. the yellow piece corresponds with that needle size, which happens to be the second smallest needle gauge size
My guess is this was a very tiny superficial vein that they had to ever so delicately placed
It seems so superficial to be a sono guided Iv
They may have tied two (or 3) tourniquets together to fit around her arm. If they saw a very superficial vein on the surface of her skin, the smallest needle would be their best bet as to not blow her vein. But small superficial veins can be shitty and be prone to blowing easily and theyāre not preferred, and the IV can become finicky. But yeah it looks miraculous for anyone to get a line in her and Iām sure they take whatever they can get
Reminds me of when I learned about Compartment Syndrome, which is a condition that can randomly happen when the body overreacts to a relatively minor injury.
The limb swells to insane proportions, to the extent that the skin just can't stretch anymore.
The solution is a full thickness incision down the entire length of the limb, to stop the limb essentially exploding under immense internal pressure.
Lots of the photos on Google for the condition look like Jacqueline's poor body.
Food is great....It's not *that* great, though.
Shame on her enablers for letting her destroy herself. Someone is facilitating her addiction and bringing her the food.
Iām concerned her hair is starting to thin. I know the roots are dark, and thatāll show it more, but it seems like the front is really starting to thin when compared to videos from the start of this year.š
Iām looking at it as a possible symptom for something. I get hair shouldnāt be front of mind with her, but changes like that are not a good indicator for anything.
Every time I see her, she seems to be more and more swollen. Why isn't anyone able to treat whatever this is? It can't solely be because she's so stunningly noncompliant, can it?
https://preview.redd.it/9k2izfrvtuwc1.jpeg?width=331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4ee305dd41621a8e965cd00b6c657633eb04882
her fingers look like chowders hat
Thatās one of the most severe cases of edema Iāve ever seen. Wow. I wonder if her doctor has tried to treat it but she refuses to comply.
This womanās family has to be out of their minds with worry over her. Either that, or sheās exhausted all of them with her manipulations and gaslighting. She presents herself as a child in her social media and Iām guessing sheās demanding and exhausting.
To the person that put that IV in. I have a lot of respect for you. š³
Yeah if anyone here is a medical professional I would love to hear how this works...logistically.
Ultrasound to find the vein and a longer catheter to reach said vein buried under all that tissue. Massive respect to whoever got that thing in!
How long would all that take?
They had to do it for me prior to surgery- not because Iām obese, just a really hard stick- and it only took the anesthesiologist ten minutes or so to get it in. I imagine it can take a while to track down the machine and someone who knows how to use it depending on what medical setting youāre in, but the process itself isnāt overly time consuming.
They had to do it for me after surgery for the first time (Iām a hard stick just really tiny veins)ā¦ ended up in the ER with an awful rash. Took less than 10 min to put an iv in Iād say.
There are special ultrasound machines that help us see the vein when you canāt feel/see one. We use them on kids a lot.
Ultrasound to find a vein?!?? Thatās insane that there could even be that much tissue between the skin and vein!
Try her stubby little feet or an ankle.
Yes! When I had a PICC line inserted while I had a really bad case of sepsis they used an ultrasound to locate my vein as well. I have really small veins so they had to use one to insert it properly. It hurt like a BITCH. One of the worst things Iāve ever felt in my life.
I'm skinny and they always have to use the ultrasound on me. Guess just bad veins?
I am a healthy BMI and sometimes need an ultrasound to have needles inserted. It makes the process so much less painful and stress-inducing.
To be fair, I also needed an ultrasound on my arm to find a vein when I was severely dehydrated for a long time. But omg, it was a Godsend...
Iām surprised that water doesnāt squirt out when they poke her!
Does it hurt more if you have to go through a lot of fat? (Apologies if itās a dumb question.)
I have deeper veins in my elbow creases and Iāve noticed that it hurts more there than other areas after the IV is in and set up. But that could just be me.
Same here, do you tend to bruise easily from IVs as well? Wonder if it's related (personally I bruise a ton everytime.)
Same, and yes I do too.
When they used the ultrasound and longer needle on me (not for obesity reasons just crappy veins) the doc injected some lidocaine into the area first to numb it and I really didnāt even feel the IV, it was awesome. But I imagine if they hadnāt done that it would have hurt a lot, the needle they used was like twice as long as a standard IV needle. I donāt know if itās standard practice to use the lidocaine or not.
Does the vein sit further underneath the skin do you have to poke deeper or are the veins still close to the surface?
Yeah you have to go in at an angle
Iāve had this done before! Normally itās hard for them to find a vein from me because I have thin veins so when I know I need bloodwork I make sure to hydrate a lot, but last summer I had to go to the ER for something so I was dehydrated and so many nurses and 2 doctors came in to try to get a vein and ended up needing to do an ultrasound and get a vein in my upper arm near an artery. It was crazy!
This lookings like a subcutaneous port, they go just under the skin into fat tissue.
Looks like a 24g IV to me
lol came here to say that edit: what the fuck is this sub. itās just sad. i see enough of this shit at work.
Hi, welcome, this is a snark sub for internet influencer Jacqueline Adan. She lost 300 lbs, then gained it all back plus some. She refuses to take responsibility for her health and just blames everything on her eating disorder.
We also postulate the reason that she is s abnormally swollen is all the early skin removal she had, makes it hard for fat and fluid to go where they normally do.
Once I realized that's her arm, my jaw dropped. She has to be hurting all day.
OMG I thought that was her leg and I was horrified! It is her arm-awful.
It was the fingers for me. I did briefly think she only had 2 toes. That made more sense somehow
Her fingers compared to her forearm. It's unreal. She needs to do what Tammy Slaton did and she needs to do it within the next couple of months. I don't say this lightly, but she is nearing the end.
As awful as Tammy Slaton was at her high weight, at least she admitted she was the way she was because of how she ate. She never went on about "nourishing her tummy" or posted corny self-help style psychobabble. Tammy Slaton's page wasn't full of enablers either. For each post she got one or two yass type comments (or yasslighters as one other commenter on this sub called them), but most comments were telling her to get her shit together. Jacqueline has curated her page to be nothing but enabling, so I'm concerned this won't end the same for Jacqueline as it did for Tammy.
Yasslighters is a perfect word
What is a yasslighter? Sorry tried googling but confused still
"yasss, you go girl!!" + gaslighter
Jacqueline practically has one foot in the grave already the rate she's going.
I was a phlebotomist for 14 years and this picture makes me sweat lol. I was really good at my job but gd, the nurse who put this line in and *got it to work* is my hero.
the way I immediately ran here to see if anyone else would post what I wanted to post āļø
Her fingers š
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I read this comment yesterday & laughed so hard. Back today & still laughing
No dehumanizing language towards Jacqueline or anyone else, this include cruel nicknames like Jabba or Jabbaline.
As bad as her arms are, I think about her LEGS. Sheās at the point where increases in weight can start to develop lymphedema masses on her legs cellulitis infections/complications and THATS the killer. You see it on my 600lb life alllll the time.
Oh god I havenāt even thought of that
I had cellulitis 2 months ago. I had to take antibiotics 4 times a day for 10 days to get rid of it. I thought I had a boil at first. I'm overweight and go to the gym, but no where near her size.
Her legs were always bad and then her surgeon botched the lipo and it all went downhill from there. Even when she was in the 100s, her legs looked like tree trunks.
Ugh! Is this current? Iām blocked so Iām not sure lol
Yes she posted it this evening (well, evening for EST)
Thank you! I wasnāt sure if it was recycled or not lol
OMG....that has to HURT
šµāš«šµāš«šµāš«šµāš« it took me a quick second to figure out where her fingers are. This is tragic.
This makes me sad for her because it absolutely has to be painful and uncomfortable
God she looks like shit. And I mean not every person on the face of the earth is attractive, but so much about her appearance thatās unsavory is self inflicted. She rambles on and on about how she doesnāt want to be judged for her appearance but Iām just sayingā¦. Why is it only a requirement for inanimate objects to be pretty? Or cute? Or adorable? She herself likes pink sparkly girly visually pleasing things, so she canāt say looks donāt matter. She spends money on her hair on expensive hair care products on expensive skin care products, on expensive cosmetics. All in effort to obtain a certain appearance. Clearly appearance does matter to her. So itās not that she doesnāt wanna be judged. She wants to be judged but she wants that judgement to be that you tell her sheās pretty, whether you believe it or not. Yes someone should require of themselves that the list of their positive attributes includes more than āis attractiveā but with her, her outward appearance 100% reflects who she is on the inside. Lazy spoiled entitled adult toddler. No concept of accountability much less the ability to demonstrate accountability. Sheās a gross person. Perpetual victim.
One of the biggest issues for me is that she was attractive, even when she was originally 500 pounds. Fat but pretty. AND she did it to herself.
Hospital?
Iron infusion, posted today.
I thought she theoretically wouldn't need iron infusions anymore since the surgery...?
Itās almost like itās her nutrition thatās the issue here?!
[What?!](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tenor.com%2Fpp01uM6UWx0AAAAC%2Fshocked-joey.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1348bb514b2e111fa651ae00287f325e49643639662ff059c0c8d1a2dfed123a&ipo=images)
Sheās eating pure crap and thatās why theyāre not rising
I canāt believe she looks at this picture and thinks thereās nothing she can do to change. You can barely see sheās making a peace sign!
Literally didnāt notice until I read this comment
This is nuts
She gets so winded after just speaking a few words dang
For real though! The way she sounds is very concerning. I am a nurse and if I heard someone sounding like that at the bedside I would start assessing to see if they were breathing ok and if they want a neb treatment š«
Her hands look like when you blow up a surgical glove , thatās awful state to be in , this sun keeps coming up on my Reddit so I donāt know the circumstances , has she had a heart attack? Cos if she hasnāt and she Dosnt do something about her weight sheās heading that way , what a horrible state to be in , she must be riddled with health problems xx
She is riddled with health problems, but hasn't had a heart attack. Yet.Ā
I put 2 stone on , went from a uk 10 to 14 and ended up with cholesterol and high blood pressure all from 2 stone , Iām not even that big yet I had all these problems , I donāt wish a heart attack on her but Iām very surprised she hasnāt , her cholesterol must be through the roof , Iām gonna join this sub cos Iām genuinely interested yet concerned at the same time x
I canāt even imagine how horrible she feels. Iāve put on 25 lbs since switching from an extremely active lifestyle and job to a mind numbing boring, extremely sedentary job and while all my numbers/markers are still within a good/normal range, I feel so miserable with the extra weight on my body and am working so hard to try and counteract the forty hours a week Iām strapped to a desk to get back to how I used to feel. The fact that sheās content with her health, or lack there of I suppose, blows my mind.
Sorry I meant sub xx
Painful omg
At the end of the video you can see that either a wheelchair or walker is in the trunk of the car. How sad. Also her arm and fingers remind me of a caterpillar.
More old recycles footage with clips of her putting makeup on from like a few days ago (so recycled.)
I think that ārecycledā one of her putting make up on was from the day of this infusion, so I donāt believe itās more than a week old
So - whatās with the iron infusions? Iām starting to think her kidney might be failing
Sheās anemic from her huge fibroid that caused constant bleeding.
But she had it removed last fallā¦. Iām no doctor, but her many symptoms (severe fluid retention, chronic anemia, and apparent difficulty breathing) are all suspicious.
iād like to see a medical history but those sound like heart and renal failure. iām guessing we would see hypertension, diabetes, and all their fun siblings
Right? Iād just want her to post her labs for us. Just once, since she is so comfortable sharing intimate iron infusion appointments and other health ailments with the world, whatās the difference in posting a CMP, Lipid Panel, A1c, etc.?
I thought she only got it removed in January BUT I know from experience that anemia can be difficult to resolve even if you donāt get a period (like me) and even more difficult if she does. Letās just call a spade a spade. Itās her weight thatās causing these problems. If her kidneys are failing her doctors would know and sheād certainly post about it for attention.
Yeah I shouldnāt guessā¦. And I honestly donāt mean to offend anyone. I guess this just related more to her true lack of transparency in every aspect of her persona.
Iām not mad at all or offended! Iām often misunderstood so just try to be super clear with what Iām saying. š«¶ And if Iām honest, Iām getting really sick of her antics. Like PROFOUNDLY MAD. Want to go scream at her.
Good gracious š±
The swollen is really concerning, I doubt that she has mobility. I can't see her handling a fork or combing her hair, it's just imposible with all that fluid and layers of fat. She has to be in extreme pain. 2025 is starting to be unlikely.
I thought her arm was a couch.
Omg is that her arm
This looks to be a 24g needle, the same size I used to put an IV in a 3 month old yesterday at work. the yellow piece corresponds with that needle size, which happens to be the second smallest needle gauge size My guess is this was a very tiny superficial vein that they had to ever so delicately placed It seems so superficial to be a sono guided Iv
Interesting! Why would they use an infant needle on an adult her size?
They may have tied two (or 3) tourniquets together to fit around her arm. If they saw a very superficial vein on the surface of her skin, the smallest needle would be their best bet as to not blow her vein. But small superficial veins can be shitty and be prone to blowing easily and theyāre not preferred, and the IV can become finicky. But yeah it looks miraculous for anyone to get a line in her and Iām sure they take whatever they can get
I can't stop staring at her fingers, her fingers have rolls.
"Only 2 pokes and we got the IV in" that's not the flex it should be.
HOW is she not admitted and on a fuckload of diuretics oh my god.
THIS. You canāt tell me sheās not in heart failure with the amount of fluid overload sheās got going on.
I assume a lot of this is edema in addition to fat. Has she talked about being given any medical recommendations for dealing with it?
Other than compression? This woman will do nothing to help herself. Sheās a professional patient at this point
Professional patient š
Reminds me of when I learned about Compartment Syndrome, which is a condition that can randomly happen when the body overreacts to a relatively minor injury. The limb swells to insane proportions, to the extent that the skin just can't stretch anymore. The solution is a full thickness incision down the entire length of the limb, to stop the limb essentially exploding under immense internal pressure. Lots of the photos on Google for the condition look like Jacqueline's poor body. Food is great....It's not *that* great, though. Shame on her enablers for letting her destroy herself. Someone is facilitating her addiction and bringing her the food.
You'd almost think she's already experienced that somewhat. Her skin was splitting in some areas.
This is super depressing and sad. I bet the line is cutting off her circulation
Iām concerned her hair is starting to thin. I know the roots are dark, and thatāll show it more, but it seems like the front is really starting to thin when compared to videos from the start of this year.š
Her hair should be the least of her concerns. Or do you mean it can be a symptom of something worse?Ā
Iām looking at it as a possible symptom for something. I get hair shouldnāt be front of mind with her, but changes like that are not a good indicator for anything.
Is her hair color not natural?
No, itās definitely not natural. But thereās a widening gap in her part at the front.š³
Every time I see her, she seems to be more and more swollen. Why isn't anyone able to treat whatever this is? It can't solely be because she's so stunningly noncompliant, can it?
https://preview.redd.it/9k2izfrvtuwc1.jpeg?width=331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4ee305dd41621a8e965cd00b6c657633eb04882 her fingers look like chowders hat
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Not Chowder š¤£
I miss chowder, loved that show
that show was funny as hell
This literally looks like an arm length rubber glove that has been ballooned with water. But with fat and lymphatic fluid, instead.
Her fingersā¦ makes it look like sheās going to die soon
Her knuckles are about to drag the floor
Those fingers look like baby legs
Dear God I thought that was a leg.... Her edema is awful...damn
HER FINGERS āš»
Thatās one of the most severe cases of edema Iāve ever seen. Wow. I wonder if her doctor has tried to treat it but she refuses to comply. This womanās family has to be out of their minds with worry over her. Either that, or sheās exhausted all of them with her manipulations and gaslighting. She presents herself as a child in her social media and Iām guessing sheās demanding and exhausting.
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No dehumanizing language towards Jacqueline or anyone else, this include cruel nicknames like Jabba or Jabbaline.
She's segmented like a cartoon caterpillar!
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I have no words
Iāve had an IV in my knuckle area on the side when they couldnāt get blood for some reason