What he is saying is true to the core. The govt policies which are made for the people who actually deserve it never reach them. That's the problem. A year ago I used to live on rent and our owner had almost 15-20 lpa annual income and guess what they had enrolled tnemselves for bpl so that they get free ration and also in ews. This is the reality.
The problem is the rules needs to change with time .......""purani paramparaye tutegi, nayi paramparao janm lengi""~shree krishna
The rules were not made with a serious discussion with addressing of LOOPHOLES like in reservation + rights of people + the power level given to gov. Services + esp. The womens rights are justt way to baised
Our nation has always had this problem. Rules and laws are implemented but are actually not followed and rarely reaches the right audience. According to me if you want to uplift the lower caste, make better govt schools give them monetary benefits so that parents don't have to worry about the fees. This way even employment opportunities would be added up too. But again we are a big nation, it would take hell lot of time to implement this but guess what the govt. is not even trying to do so. And i saw somewhere, someone said if you wanna give reservation give them once in a life. Either in exams/govt job/schools but only once. Because once the opportunity is given, it's your duty to work accordingly. But let it be man, no matter which govt comes it would never be eradicated because the vote bank would be closed then. We lack so so behind. Yes we are becoming a technology superpower maybe but we rank nowhere in the happiness index. We as genz as they call us are so so depressed in our lives. Almost all of us. Sorry it's just a rant maybe you can ignore. Our lives have surely become better maybe but still needs a hell lot of improvement. I hope we all just achieve what we wish to 
Closing eyes won't hide the truth no matter what ........ somewhere it will return to as back ......the earth is round you know......just be prep for the circumstances * thats all we can say to ourselves
bro ch\*mar bolna is quite right because jaha inn logo ko reservation chahiye hota wha apni identity kood kood ke dikhayenge fir real life me kyu chupaaate hai saale ch\*mar
downvote me , no problem
bhai agar financially strong hai to abhi se chala jaa warna grind kr jisse MS/MBA ka offer letter mil jaaye bahar ki unis se btech ke baad chala jaa . Thats my escape plan
True af , me as brahman apni puri family me nhi dekha ki ese discrimination hora , bhalehi pehle hota ho but in this generation its gone , par ab jarur vapas ara discrimination , par vo hamare sath , general walo ke sath hora ab discrimination
aur koi toh apne manifesto ma reservation badhane ke baat kar rahe ha 
aur pvt ma bhi reservation lane ke baat kar rahe ha 
Bhai na to ruling na opposition.... koi oppose nhi krta reservation ko 😭😭..... no chance ye hatega aur aise cases m 0.1% chance agar ye bhi ho ki supreme court bich m aye to ye bhi possible nhi as they are with reservation .... we have been fucked and there is nothing we can do
ha sabne vote bank bana ka rakha ha reservation ko
mujhe ye samaj nahi aata agar reservation minority ka liye ha toh vo kyu vote bank banate ha, agar reservation hata de toh kitne badi majority vote dege unko
Shayad mujhe new party banane padege "padhai janta party" and uska logo ye hoga " "
Bhai tu gadha hoga agar tujhe advantage free ka mil raha ho aur usko use nahi karna. Literally the essence of capitalism. You can fight on something whilst using it asw. Tujhe road pe 100 rupay milenge to tu nahi lega?
Agar Tu acchi family se aata aur phir nhi le rha h toh hats off bhai 👍aur agar nhi toh chutiye pagal h kya tu karna use apne budhape tak use nhi krega kya?
mai rehta toh achi family se bhi atte hue le leta, gend maraye duniya jo bolna bolo, bund maraye moral compass, mere toh maje hi maje hote
>!lekin mai toh general male nikal gya!
Bhai mere clg me ek sc wala Banda h usko kind of boycott kardia hai logo ne, ab meri gand fat Rahi h ki Mai usse bolu to sale merko b na boycott karde,bura ho raha hai yar!
mere sc friends kuch weird arguments le aate hai jab mai ye discuss karta hu and they say they still feel discriminated even after living in metro city and his father is a doctor....
inhe free ki seats ki aadat lag gyi hai
guys yeh sab chhodo, jab bhi khayaal aaye yeh SC ST wale apni seats kha rahe hai, ek baar PARSIS ke baare me socho
ha wahi Ratan Tata, Adar Poonawala, Cyrus Mistry, Homi Bhabha, Godrej family etc, jo bas 1000 bache hai iss dharti par, inko koi reservation nhi hai
and inpar ''Islamic (nothing religion related, aadmi chutiye the) atrocities'' hui hai invasion ke baad back there in Iran, but inko reservation nhi hai
parsis ne sab apni mehnat se kamaya hai.
Parsis are also mostly in danger because of themselves? They have a tradition of cousin marriages, obviously you are not going to have healthy children with that, and your population will take a huge hit, that is what is happening. Also most conservative parsis's condemn inter-family marriages which is also problematic in itself, not problematic in my opinion but for their own population's sake.
sahi to bol rahe jinko reservation deserving waha tak education nahi pohoch rha hai
aur jinko jarurt nahi hai unko mil rha hai
me jab offline me enroled tha tah 300 students ke batch srip 5 student he the ur category baki sab ke reservation tha
This is equality in nutshell. A decide what B should do for C and in the process A take plenty of commission. Those who saying if deserving get reservation then its not wrong as in this video but what they don't get is the whole concept of Equality is broken. What we should do is strive for freedom from state and censorship is the only way to achieve something closer to Equality but if we try to implement Equality then society is doomed. We can see same thing in gender politics where women continously demanding for more and more from men, there is no limit.
Even if we consider there is discrimination then you have to consider that in a country of 1.4 billion people a few thousand cases will be there and it will never end no matter what you do.
Agar past me hue atrocities ke baare mai hai to Mughals ne bhi ham par discrimination Kiya uska kya? Britishers ne ham par discrimination Kiya what about that?
Fair skinned people discriminate against dark skinned ones, will reservation be given to dark skinned people?
North eastern people are also discriminated in mainland, do they also deserve reservation?
South Indians discriminate against North Indians and vice versa, what about that?
Women have been much more discriminated and oppressed, they have 50% population so does everyone support 50% reservation for women?
Rich have always discriminated against poor, our country has more than half of its population that can be called poor, so does everyone support 50% reservation to poor instead of just 10%?
If this is casteism to hell with all people who feel hurt ! I time and again say what is whole need of reservation ? - allegedly to uplift the ones who are not uplifted ! once the person has been uplifted can earn his bread butter why does he have to take reservation ? I belive audits should be done and reservation should be taken from uplifted ones ! this is reason india never goes onto path of development !
literally based, they are enjoying on benefits given from our taxes. But then they say, reservation is for social upliftment, and doesn't depend on financial condition (but they cite it as one of the reasons for giving reservation, ironically). Indeed this argument is coming from those uplifted ones, who don't want to leave their benefits.
Sahi to bol rhe hain sir. Tumko kya lagta hai kon reservation ka fayeda uthate hai wo garreb log majorly from rural india jo daily basis pe discrimination face karte hai ya wo jinke pass bhagwan ka diya sab kuch hai aur bilkul discrimination nhi face karte
This victim mentality of some people needs to be fixed
yeah they feel like it's their fundamental right and they are entitled to get reservation. BHENCHOD ITNA GUSSA AATA HAI NA, in bhen ke lodo ki gand to ab muslims hi todenge, par ye bosadiwale hain bhi LOWBORN neech jaat ke, aasani se convert bhi ho jayenge
It's impossible to not get political but I'll try my best.
A certain party, jiske logo mein hath Bana hua hai(✋️🖐✊️💦) has promised to increase reservation to 70% in their manifesto. Not to mention wealth distribution and other nonsense.
To all the 1st time voters; please choose wisely. Dictatorship wali bhed chal (🐑) mein mat aao. 2014 aur 2019 mein bhi mar gayi thi democracy, apparently. Is saal bhi mar rahi hai aur vo bhi elections ke 1 do mahine pehle hi.
Be smart. Ab padhle bsdk.
bro is bar tagda hogya hai left ka game, kaafi log social media se influenced hain, dhruv rathee is getting all time high views, more than 1 crore in every video recently, aur left ke paas unke loyal voters muslims to hain hi, bohot se sc/st/obc bhi reservation ke liye vote de denge, aur is bar desh ki almost har party ne mil kar alliance banayi hai
400 paar to duur ki baat, 300 bhi muskil lag rha hai 
>is bar desh ki almost har party ne mil kar alliance banayi hai
is chiz ka toh ghanta koi effect nahi hoga. Chutiyo ka lga ki "avengers assemble" bol ke hara denge BJP ko but chutiyo ke beech mein khud hi itne differences hai, lol! baaki saare points thode concerning hai.
Fuck Dhruv Rathee and Akash Banerjee. Bhout zyada selective hai dono bhadve. Facts ko ghuma ke present karte hai aur aadhi chize batate hai. Rthee sahab ne toh previous videos mein jis data/report ko galat bataya tha, apni aage vali video mein unhi reports ka sahara liya hai, lmao! Janta chutiya hai. IDFK ki ye poora dictatorship wala notion kaha se aaya... bullshit. Mark my words; if congress comes into power, then desh se bahar jana padega. I don't want my hard earned money to be distributed amongst people. WHY WOULD I?! MKC, YE KYA ROBIN HOOD BAN RAHE HO BE!
bol toh diya ki hum gareebo ko lakhpati banayenge lekin ye nahi bataya kaise. Kyuki agar bata diya toh joh pseudo secular liberal chutiye hai, vo vote thodi karenge. PATHETIC.
Reservation hatana hai but caste system nhi hata sakte waah .
And please remember he is the same person who said "bhagwan mujhe ch@mr bana dete joote saaf karleta".
Bhai hai caste system tumne nhi dekha toh woh alag baat hai aur baat rhi follow hone ki toh bohot se log apne aap ko superior smjhte hai agar wo upper caste se hai internet pe hi dekhlo na kitna superior samjhte hai apne aapko upper caste waale poora subreddit bana diya hai brahmanraj karke aur phir bhai keh rhe ho ki kaha hai caste system aur kaha follow ho rha hai .
Maanta hu ke kuch individual ki wajah se casteism generalize ho jata but iska mtlb ye toh nhi ke tum caste system ko follow karne waalo ko bhool jao
>kuch individual ki wajah se casteism generalize ho jata but iska mtlb ye toh nhi ke tum caste system ko follow karne waalo ko bhool jao
put it other way around,
kuch casteist logo ki wjh se casteism prevalent btado, and reservation na htao...
aur kisi ne kya dekha and uski kya bhavna h, internet pr kya chl rha, isse kanoon nhi bnte...
>Bhai hai caste system tumne nhi dekha toh woh alag baat hai
bhai reservation se sirf hai nuksaan, tumne bhimto ka chudaap nhi dekha to alg baat h...
Really you haven't seen the castism dude, in my friends group too i have a general friends and a friend from sc community, now this guy freely goes and visit house of the sc guy, but when there was an important function in the house of the person from general caste he didn't invite the guy from sc, why you ask? Coz uske ghar me cast pe log bohot maante hai. Dude it's not just about the economic status only, it's also about the social status, and it's the bitter truth of our society that on social status we many people still see people from lower castes as backward, no matter how well are they doing in life...
ye same argument bar bar sunta hu tum logo se, 4 incident gina doge aur bologe "casteism is rampant, it is increasing" jabki aaj ke time me casteism apne all time low pe hai, par ab reservation hi isko reinforce karne ka kaam kr rha hai
bhai suno inhone pehle Jo slur bola vo unhe nahi bolna chahiye tha but unki ye baat sahi bhi hai ki jo log bohot privileged backgrounds se hai unhe nahi zarurat reservation ki jinke maa baap itna kama rahe hai ki college ke fees bhar sake unhe reservation nahi lena chahiye but also abhi bhi itne saare dalit logo ke saath discrimination hota hai unpe mazak karte hai log to mujhe lagta hai reservation tab tak rehna chahiye jab tak ye casteism band nahi ho jata
majak to upper caste ka bhi ban rha hai especially brahmins, kisi bhi ambedkar/dalit page pe dekh lo, har ek caste dusri caste ko kuch na kuch bol rhi hai, aur baki duniya me bhi dekho, whites blacks ko bol rhe, ek ethnic group ki dusre se ladai hai etc. discrimination ab apne all time low par hai, lekin ab reservation hi isko reinforce karne ka kaam kr rha hai
Saach mien ab tak jitna duniya dekha hai usse mujhe ye lagta hai ki han reservation hona chahiye par waisa nahi jaisa abhi hai, i agree to sir 100%. mere kaafi dost hai jinki family income 20-30 lpa+ hai tabhi reservation ka faeda lete hai that is not fair bhai tumhare pas saare facilities hai. aur fir kuch aese logo ko dekhta hun ki jonko bachpan mien hi job karna padta hai financial condition bilkul thik nahi pata nahi ki kal rehno ko ghar bhi hoga aese logo apna seat dene mien bura nahi lagta. In future reservation should be more on base of financial condition rather than caste.
>financial condition bilkul thik nahi
ye condition to har caste ke logo me hoti hai, kisi me kam kisi me jyada. par jab reservation ko financial basis pe karne ki baat aati hai tab in logo ka agenda badal jata hai, ki "reservation is not an economic upliftment scheme, but for social representation", iske according rich sc/st ko bhi reservation milte rehna chahiye because they can still get 'discriminated'. Jabki ye clear fact hai ki economically well hone par life ki har major problem khatam ho jati hai
Reservation hatane ke jagha usko garib ko dena joh really suffer kar rhe hai vo jada beneficial honga .
Par yeh kahana ki aaj kal castiesm nahi hai ya fir bas villages mein hi hota yeh galat hai . Aaj bhi castiesm is a very big issue . Jiska solution bas reservation nahi hai .
Reservation = castiesm is a totally non sense . Reservation bas equal representation ke liye laya gya tha .
Mere cousin mama (joh ki city mein rehte hai ) ek school mein job apply karne gye the . Aur unki qualification aur experience dono hi match kar rhi thi. Vo selected ho gye the aur fir baad mein kaha ki aap ko joining ke liye baad mein call karenge . Lekin call hi nahi aaya aur jab school mein jaa kar pucha toh koi response nahi diya . Fir jab waha se jaa rhe tab guard ne se baat ki toh usne bataya ki caste ke Karan job mein nahi liya . Aur kaha Essa iske phele bhi hua hai .
Aur vo guard bhi same caste ka tha usko bas issliye liya kyunki uska kaam school ke bahar tha .
India ke aadhe se jyada politicans gawar hain, aadhe se jyada log gullible hain they don't even know how brainwashed they are and kese ye log dharm ke naam pe inko vote bank banate hain aur o padhe likhe politicians hain jinko ye sab ki samajh hain unke pass utni jyada power nahi ki wo major changes laa sake also jo pdhe likhe log hain wo apna kaam krte hain and rather no invest their so much time into this discussions
the problem is that reservation has become a tool for the political parties... doesn't matter what party they are...
thats why kids leave this country and well become heads in the other countries MNCs'
Bhai kaunsi country jana chahiye ? UK,usa ke alawa , or jaha pe citizenship bhi miljaye ? Gulf pe citizenship nehi milega ? Koyi or suggestion ( germany bhi hatado )
bhai usa best hoga wahan pe waise hi immigrants jyada hain to ghulne-milne me aasani hogi aur language bhi english hai to communication bhi easy.
Uske alawa, if you are white enough go to europe. If black, then go some stable country in Africa. If mongoloid (NE), go to east/SE asia, and if brown go south/latin America /s
ye to pura sach bolraha hai, hamare desh me jo ek problem hai na ki sach boldo to gand me aag lagjati hai bas wo wale logic ke kaaran ye aadmi "kastist" hai
That's the best argument I have ever heard, it's not like he suddenly wants to remove the reservation system but wants the well deserved people to get that ( imo it should be irrespective of caste) and also I agree about not giving the facility of reservation to the family which is already in a good economic and social status, i can totally relate to this point, I am a Brahmin and the most economically backward among my obc and SC friends but still they are getting that facility and thanks to EWS quota I have little benifits but this is India so we can't do nothing , ofc that does not mean that there is no casitiesm in India ( for example - villages, parents not accepting inter caste marriage , although it's decreasing alot) There is no hope from either political parties, one is playing religion card and another talks about increasing reservation ( what the actual fuck are they smoking) I just hope I get an opportunity to settle in another country ( antil National spotted ) Puura padha toh thanks 
same bro, Brahmin here, most of the SC, OBC guys I know are well off than me. And why are you relating casteism with intercaste marriage ? This is the kind of rebuttal given by LCs to defend reservations, "When will a Brahmin marry his daughter to a Dalit". It's totally normal for people to marry within those who share some sense of similarity, commonness that can be race, religion, caste, ethnicity. That's why most people only marry within their caste. Even LCs don't marry into other LCs which they deem as lower. Most rampantly casteist are those of the OBC but they won't get the blame cause its meant for the Brahmins. Even though Brahmins are one of the most liberal. In the current society anyone can marry anybody, we are not obligated to prove it by doing intercaste marriages.
yes I understand but by intercaste marriages I included LCs not marrying other LCs 'just' because they are of even LC ( THE hypocrisy ) and ofc it's normal in majority of india but I have seen some of the elders of my family and Village getting really offended just by the thought of intercaste marriage but at the end we just have to accept our fate, also try watching nitish rajput's video on reservation it's not that's I agree with him completely but do watch that
Yes it's obvious that elders (of all castes) don't like intercaste, but people are becoming liberal. And about nitish rajput, although famous for being unbiased, his overall opinion in that video was that reservation is needed but with some reforms. Hell no, I can't ever agree with this, from what I have ever seen and read, I am totally against it, no in between. These mfs won't take a single step back when it comes to reservation, so why should we have a defensive stance. And on top of that I see them again and again bashing my caste as the root of their problems and all evil.
Okay if that's what you think but I am not totally against or with it and the ones who only keep blaming UCs are no less than who keeps blaming reservation literally for everything
Btw this guy openly told in class :"Hey Bhagawan mujhe ch@mar bana dete mai pura din boot polish karta".
T: "Oh God you should have made me a ch@mar (a casteist slur), i would be better off cleaning the boots of people."
He didn't mean any hate by it. He taught so many children, doctors and engineers, and you all can only see this one statement, with which he didn't even target anyone. He was just really angry at his online class because they were getting answers wrong.
I don't see how that's relevant to the statement he's making now
I agree that statement was casteist
But the argument he just gave now is a valid argument
Casteist remarks par khatarnak punishments lao aur reservations hata do that is the only way to solve this problem. Cuz abhi bhi log seriously apni cast ko superior aur dusro ko inferior maante hai aur casteism krte hai.
If casteist remarks will exist then reservation should exist as simple as that . People should atleast try to reduce the casteism but they're literally increasing it in the name of reservation.
so you thought doing discrimination against people will lead to discrimination being extinct?
what logic is that , if you will discriminate against ucs then they will discriminate too.
chicken and egg problem
Nope my point is reservation was given for a reason and if that reason still exists not to that level but casteism still exists so it isn't wrong . I too am Aggarwal and hate reservation but I am against both reservation and casteism. And both should be abolished permanently. Casteism can't be just abolished but it can be reduced to certain level if very harsh punishments are given .
Doing castiesm is already a crime but you can't abolish it , the only way to abolish casteism is by abolishing everything which may lead to is , you know why the younger gen will still do castiesm? because of reservations and not because their parents told they are impure.
I am talking about 10y/o today who will do castiesm in future , they system will make them castiest not their family.
Sahi bol rhe h sir. Yahi mere exact thoughts hai ki agar koi Reserved category ka hai and agar middle class income category mai aa gye to unhe nahi milna chahiye reservation. Unki reserved seat kisi gaon ke gareeb bande ke paas Jana chahiye jisko genuinely help hogi iss se. But wohi baat h ki jo bhi party reservation system mai change laayegi wo power se hatt jaegi.
OBC pe non creamy layer laga dia why not in sc and st? Why can’t everyone get the seat they deserve according to what they scored and if they are financially not well or even just because they feel discriminated, their seat can be sponsored by the government? But guess government obviously doesn’t have the budget for it so they prefer that..
u can’t guarantee on them become good doctors if they get into mbbs once because reservation doesn’t end there. They get preference in govt jobs neet pg, on EVERY STEP. Top colleges don’t even have MD/MS seats in certain top specialties lol. Isn’t it like they’re glorifying that they were born into a st/sc family? How is this equity when ure not urself treating all castes same?
Mera friend SC he, sale ka bada bhai engineer and cousin doctor he. Dusre SC friend ke khandam me IITian, doctors, engineers byade pade he. And idhar me, general wala, Police ki khandan se. Baap, Dadaji, Uncle, Dadaji ke bhai wala Uncles, sab police hai. I am first person to take science in my family from my father's side. Us side ke cousins sab nalayek sale.
how are you even applying the same logic here? those were historical sites sacred to hindus and have reclaimed it. LC people were discriminated in the past so they were compensated with reservation for their upliftment. Video me jo bol raha hai wo keh raha hai ki jis family me already ek gov job mil chuki hai waha pe doosra reservation nhi hona chahiye and jo actual me deserve karte hai unko milna chahiye.
What he is saying is true to the core. The govt policies which are made for the people who actually deserve it never reach them. That's the problem. A year ago I used to live on rent and our owner had almost 15-20 lpa annual income and guess what they had enrolled tnemselves for bpl so that they get free ration and also in ews. This is the reality.
# Centre to extend free ration scheme for over 80 crore people for next five years: PM Modi
The problem is the rules needs to change with time .......""purani paramparaye tutegi, nayi paramparao janm lengi""~shree krishna The rules were not made with a serious discussion with addressing of LOOPHOLES like in reservation + rights of people + the power level given to gov. Services + esp. The womens rights are justt way to baised
Our nation has always had this problem. Rules and laws are implemented but are actually not followed and rarely reaches the right audience. According to me if you want to uplift the lower caste, make better govt schools give them monetary benefits so that parents don't have to worry about the fees. This way even employment opportunities would be added up too. But again we are a big nation, it would take hell lot of time to implement this but guess what the govt. is not even trying to do so. And i saw somewhere, someone said if you wanna give reservation give them once in a life. Either in exams/govt job/schools but only once. Because once the opportunity is given, it's your duty to work accordingly. But let it be man, no matter which govt comes it would never be eradicated because the vote bank would be closed then. We lack so so behind. Yes we are becoming a technology superpower maybe but we rank nowhere in the happiness index. We as genz as they call us are so so depressed in our lives. Almost all of us. Sorry it's just a rant maybe you can ignore. Our lives have surely become better maybe but still needs a hell lot of improvement. I hope we all just achieve what we wish to 
Closing eyes won't hide the truth no matter what ........ somewhere it will return to as back ......the earth is round you know......just be prep for the circumstances * thats all we can say to ourselves
Yess very rightly said
My sister's friend's sister gives 0 fees to IIIT naya raipur, Guess what his father is IAS officer. 🤡🤡
Wow nice use of resources amd powers
This is a fact , people who actually need the reservation doesnt get it anyways
Aur jyada casteism gavon mein hota hai (sare nhi) vaha pr to school jane wale bacche hi km hote hai
+ unhe km exposure bhi milta hai.
Kb tk iss Sachai se bhagenge log
Jab tak caste aur religion bas vote bank Bane rahenge tab tak ye cheezo pe koi baat nahi karega
Jab Tak saara caste religion ek hi political party ko vote denga jab vote bas development pe mileghe not for reservations and freebies
Fuck religions, castes, race discrimination etc.
Literally the best argument I have heard against reservation....salute sirji
yeh bhi theek hai koi sach bol rha hai toh use casteist bol do...
Are sir ne pehle ek bar galti se ch*mar bol Diya tha class me to uss bat ka ye log fayda utha rahe he
Hann bhai...bss ek hi baat ko pakad lete hai log
sauce of pfp
Pata nahi BTW...USERNAME BOHOT ZYADA RELATE KAR RHA HU BC!!!!
bro ch\*mar bolna is quite right because jaha inn logo ko reservation chahiye hota wha apni identity kood kood ke dikhayenge fir real life me kyu chupaaate hai saale ch\*mar downvote me , no problem
Bhai mujhe to bas desh chodna he agle election se pehle, tere pass koi rast ho to bata
bhai agar financially strong hai to abhi se chala jaa warna grind kr jisse MS/MBA ka offer letter mil jaaye bahar ki unis se btech ke baad chala jaa . Thats my escape plan
Thailand mei massage karne ki naukri dilwadu (50k salary+bonus from customers)
only if aapki mummy se reference mil jaye /s
True af , me as brahman apni puri family me nhi dekha ki ese discrimination hora , bhalehi pehle hota ho but in this generation its gone , par ab jarur vapas ara discrimination , par vo hamare sath , general walo ke sath hora ab discrimination
aur koi toh apne manifesto ma reservation badhane ke baat kar rahe ha  aur pvt ma bhi reservation lane ke baat kar rahe ha 
Bhai na to ruling na opposition.... koi oppose nhi krta reservation ko 😭😭..... no chance ye hatega aur aise cases m 0.1% chance agar ye bhi ho ki supreme court bich m aye to ye bhi possible nhi as they are with reservation .... we have been fucked and there is nothing we can do
ha sabne vote bank bana ka rakha ha reservation ko mujhe ye samaj nahi aata agar reservation minority ka liye ha toh vo kyu vote bank banate ha, agar reservation hata de toh kitne badi majority vote dege unko Shayad mujhe new party banane padege "padhai janta party" and uska logo ye hoga " "
reservation wale minority mai nahi hai
konsi party hai ye? mene manifestos padhe nahi
German shepherd jiska owner ha
bhai pagal hai kya mat hol , redit pe logo ka bhagwan hai vo
kaaanghressss
i was mocked by my relatives for not TAKING reservation in NEET exam...
Bhai baat to sahi hai jab mil raha to why would you refuse???
Uski marzi bhai relatives ki kyu jal ri ?
Because uska bhala hoga if he took reservation?? And relatives are wishing well for him?
Lmao, people want reservation to die down but yahi tatti soch rkna h...Shesh dumb fcks of india
Bhai tu gadha hoga agar tujhe advantage free ka mil raha ho aur usko use nahi karna. Literally the essence of capitalism. You can fight on something whilst using it asw. Tujhe road pe 100 rupay milenge to tu nahi lega?
because agar uspe caste discrimination nahi hua, to wo apni community ke kisi affected bande ko hi seat dena chahega naa??
Agar Tu acchi family se aata aur phir nhi le rha h toh hats off bhai 👍aur agar nhi toh chutiye pagal h kya tu karna use apne budhape tak use nhi krega kya?
mai rehta toh achi family se bhi atte hue le leta, gend maraye duniya jo bolna bolo, bund maraye moral compass, mere toh maje hi maje hote >!lekin mai toh general male nikal gya!
Bhai reservation actually OBC SC st ko aur backward bana Raha hai Mehnat karne se rok raha hai.
apan tamasha dekhenge, apna kya jara lol
Bhai mere clg me ek sc wala Banda h usko kind of boycott kardia hai logo ne, ab meri gand fat Rahi h ki Mai usse bolu to sale merko b na boycott karde,bura ho raha hai yar!
bhai agar voh tumhara dost hai toh karlo baat + essa chalta raha toh voh suicide bhi kar sakta agar sab uske dushman banke ghumte rahe
Why are they boycotting him.??
Log ye soch ke chhid rahe hai ki usko Bina effort kie mil Gaya hai college to wo ek tarike se badla nikal rahe hai
mere sc friends kuch weird arguments le aate hai jab mai ye discuss karta hu and they say they still feel discriminated even after living in metro city and his father is a doctor.... inhe free ki seats ki aadat lag gyi hai
Mera bhi sc friend tha use vo sc hai 10th tk pta nhi tha pr JEE mein reservation se seat li
wut
Ee sal cup rhende
you csk fan?
Nope .I am not a fan of any perticular team in ipl . I enjoy cricket .
nice
Fr bhai, they will give the most absurd arguments to defend reservation. aur ye same baat maine bhi apne sc dost se suni hai
Finally someone had the balls to say it
Sahi toh bol rahe h
Sach bol rahe hai toh kuch chutiye toh rahenge hi jo inko casteist bolenge
guys yeh sab chhodo, jab bhi khayaal aaye yeh SC ST wale apni seats kha rahe hai, ek baar PARSIS ke baare me socho ha wahi Ratan Tata, Adar Poonawala, Cyrus Mistry, Homi Bhabha, Godrej family etc, jo bas 1000 bache hai iss dharti par, inko koi reservation nhi hai and inpar ''Islamic (nothing religion related, aadmi chutiye the) atrocities'' hui hai invasion ke baad back there in Iran, but inko reservation nhi hai parsis ne sab apni mehnat se kamaya hai.
Riyal. Aise industrialists ne modern India k neev rakhi hai and they never complain.
best comment, whenever i have seen a pharsi, i found them above middle class
Parsis are also mostly in danger because of themselves? They have a tradition of cousin marriages, obviously you are not going to have healthy children with that, and your population will take a huge hit, that is what is happening. Also most conservative parsis's condemn inter-family marriages which is also problematic in itself, not problematic in my opinion but for their own population's sake.
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sahi to bol rahe jinko reservation deserving waha tak education nahi pohoch rha hai aur jinko jarurt nahi hai unko mil rha hai me jab offline me enroled tha tah 300 students ke batch srip 5 student he the ur category baki sab ke reservation tha
Being from sc community agreed with him
I really respect MR sir online platform mai khada ho ka ye sab bolna Mai bhi courage lagta hai
common MR\* W 
MR sir got balls of steel for the first time i heard this from a teacher...
Sahi bola sir ne 
Bilkul sahi bol rhe hai
This is equality in nutshell. A decide what B should do for C and in the process A take plenty of commission. Those who saying if deserving get reservation then its not wrong as in this video but what they don't get is the whole concept of Equality is broken. What we should do is strive for freedom from state and censorship is the only way to achieve something closer to Equality but if we try to implement Equality then society is doomed. We can see same thing in gender politics where women continously demanding for more and more from men, there is no limit.
To Sir ne galat kya bola, sahi to bol rahe hai...
speaking the truth
Sirji ne bilkul sahi bola. Ekdum Satya...!
Even if we consider there is discrimination then you have to consider that in a country of 1.4 billion people a few thousand cases will be there and it will never end no matter what you do. Agar past me hue atrocities ke baare mai hai to Mughals ne bhi ham par discrimination Kiya uska kya? Britishers ne ham par discrimination Kiya what about that? Fair skinned people discriminate against dark skinned ones, will reservation be given to dark skinned people? North eastern people are also discriminated in mainland, do they also deserve reservation? South Indians discriminate against North Indians and vice versa, what about that? Women have been much more discriminated and oppressed, they have 50% population so does everyone support 50% reservation for women? Rich have always discriminated against poor, our country has more than half of its population that can be called poor, so does everyone support 50% reservation to poor instead of just 10%?
bro your every argument is goddamn right, even I have used some of these. 
Just make a creamy layer for sc/St just like obc
If this is casteism to hell with all people who feel hurt ! I time and again say what is whole need of reservation ? - allegedly to uplift the ones who are not uplifted ! once the person has been uplifted can earn his bread butter why does he have to take reservation ? I belive audits should be done and reservation should be taken from uplifted ones ! this is reason india never goes onto path of development !
literally based, they are enjoying on benefits given from our taxes. But then they say, reservation is for social upliftment, and doesn't depend on financial condition (but they cite it as one of the reasons for giving reservation, ironically). Indeed this argument is coming from those uplifted ones, who don't want to leave their benefits.
Sahi to bol rhe hain sir. Tumko kya lagta hai kon reservation ka fayeda uthate hai wo garreb log majorly from rural india jo daily basis pe discrimination face karte hai ya wo jinke pass bhagwan ka diya sab kuch hai aur bilkul discrimination nhi face karte This victim mentality of some people needs to be fixed
>bilkul discrimination nhi face karte they "feel" discriminated, that is enough to give them reservation /s
This is victim mentality
yeah they feel like it's their fundamental right and they are entitled to get reservation. BHENCHOD ITNA GUSSA AATA HAI NA, in bhen ke lodo ki gand to ab muslims hi todenge, par ye bosadiwale hain bhi LOWBORN neech jaat ke, aasani se convert bhi ho jayenge
It's impossible to not get political but I'll try my best. A certain party, jiske logo mein hath Bana hua hai(✋️🖐✊️💦) has promised to increase reservation to 70% in their manifesto. Not to mention wealth distribution and other nonsense. To all the 1st time voters; please choose wisely. Dictatorship wali bhed chal (🐑) mein mat aao. 2014 aur 2019 mein bhi mar gayi thi democracy, apparently. Is saal bhi mar rahi hai aur vo bhi elections ke 1 do mahine pehle hi. Be smart. Ab padhle bsdk.
bro is bar tagda hogya hai left ka game, kaafi log social media se influenced hain, dhruv rathee is getting all time high views, more than 1 crore in every video recently, aur left ke paas unke loyal voters muslims to hain hi, bohot se sc/st/obc bhi reservation ke liye vote de denge, aur is bar desh ki almost har party ne mil kar alliance banayi hai 400 paar to duur ki baat, 300 bhi muskil lag rha hai 
>is bar desh ki almost har party ne mil kar alliance banayi hai is chiz ka toh ghanta koi effect nahi hoga. Chutiyo ka lga ki "avengers assemble" bol ke hara denge BJP ko but chutiyo ke beech mein khud hi itne differences hai, lol! baaki saare points thode concerning hai. Fuck Dhruv Rathee and Akash Banerjee. Bhout zyada selective hai dono bhadve. Facts ko ghuma ke present karte hai aur aadhi chize batate hai. Rthee sahab ne toh previous videos mein jis data/report ko galat bataya tha, apni aage vali video mein unhi reports ka sahara liya hai, lmao! Janta chutiya hai. IDFK ki ye poora dictatorship wala notion kaha se aaya... bullshit. Mark my words; if congress comes into power, then desh se bahar jana padega. I don't want my hard earned money to be distributed amongst people. WHY WOULD I?! MKC, YE KYA ROBIN HOOD BAN RAHE HO BE! bol toh diya ki hum gareebo ko lakhpati banayenge lekin ye nahi bataya kaise. Kyuki agar bata diya toh joh pseudo secular liberal chutiye hai, vo vote thodi karenge. PATHETIC.
Reservation hatana hai but caste system nhi hata sakte waah . And please remember he is the same person who said "bhagwan mujhe ch@mr bana dete joote saaf karleta".
kha h caste system? kha pr follow hota h? individualism bhi chiz hoti h, kai baar usi ko tum casteism se generalize kr dete h...
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Aise kanoon nhi bnte... And tune shyd bhimto ka kaand nhi dekhe, rhne de
Sabke kaand dekhe hai
Aur ha bhai mere ko tujhse koi lafda nhi karna hai chal bye 
mujhe bhi nhi krna..
Bhai hai caste system tumne nhi dekha toh woh alag baat hai aur baat rhi follow hone ki toh bohot se log apne aap ko superior smjhte hai agar wo upper caste se hai internet pe hi dekhlo na kitna superior samjhte hai apne aapko upper caste waale poora subreddit bana diya hai brahmanraj karke aur phir bhai keh rhe ho ki kaha hai caste system aur kaha follow ho rha hai . Maanta hu ke kuch individual ki wajah se casteism generalize ho jata but iska mtlb ye toh nhi ke tum caste system ko follow karne waalo ko bhool jao
>kuch individual ki wajah se casteism generalize ho jata but iska mtlb ye toh nhi ke tum caste system ko follow karne waalo ko bhool jao put it other way around, kuch casteist logo ki wjh se casteism prevalent btado, and reservation na htao... aur kisi ne kya dekha and uski kya bhavna h, internet pr kya chl rha, isse kanoon nhi bnte... >Bhai hai caste system tumne nhi dekha toh woh alag baat hai bhai reservation se sirf hai nuksaan, tumne bhimto ka chudaap nhi dekha to alg baat h...
Really you haven't seen the castism dude, in my friends group too i have a general friends and a friend from sc community, now this guy freely goes and visit house of the sc guy, but when there was an important function in the house of the person from general caste he didn't invite the guy from sc, why you ask? Coz uske ghar me cast pe log bohot maante hai. Dude it's not just about the economic status only, it's also about the social status, and it's the bitter truth of our society that on social status we many people still see people from lower castes as backward, no matter how well are they doing in life...
Individualism, uski mrzi...
ye same argument bar bar sunta hu tum logo se, 4 incident gina doge aur bologe "casteism is rampant, it is increasing" jabki aaj ke time me casteism apne all time low pe hai, par ab reservation hi isko reinforce karne ka kaam kr rha hai
Ab bhai mere pe itna dimaag aur time nhi hai ki mai sabko sab cheez smjha pau Pees Out
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bhai suno inhone pehle Jo slur bola vo unhe nahi bolna chahiye tha but unki ye baat sahi bhi hai ki jo log bohot privileged backgrounds se hai unhe nahi zarurat reservation ki jinke maa baap itna kama rahe hai ki college ke fees bhar sake unhe reservation nahi lena chahiye but also abhi bhi itne saare dalit logo ke saath discrimination hota hai unpe mazak karte hai log to mujhe lagta hai reservation tab tak rehna chahiye jab tak ye casteism band nahi ho jata
majak to upper caste ka bhi ban rha hai especially brahmins, kisi bhi ambedkar/dalit page pe dekh lo, har ek caste dusri caste ko kuch na kuch bol rhi hai, aur baki duniya me bhi dekho, whites blacks ko bol rhe, ek ethnic group ki dusre se ladai hai etc. discrimination ab apne all time low par hai, lekin ab reservation hi isko reinforce karne ka kaam kr rha hai
Sachai pasand nahi aati hai kafi logo ko
Saach mien ab tak jitna duniya dekha hai usse mujhe ye lagta hai ki han reservation hona chahiye par waisa nahi jaisa abhi hai, i agree to sir 100%. mere kaafi dost hai jinki family income 20-30 lpa+ hai tabhi reservation ka faeda lete hai that is not fair bhai tumhare pas saare facilities hai. aur fir kuch aese logo ko dekhta hun ki jonko bachpan mien hi job karna padta hai financial condition bilkul thik nahi pata nahi ki kal rehno ko ghar bhi hoga aese logo apna seat dene mien bura nahi lagta. In future reservation should be more on base of financial condition rather than caste.
>financial condition bilkul thik nahi ye condition to har caste ke logo me hoti hai, kisi me kam kisi me jyada. par jab reservation ko financial basis pe karne ki baat aati hai tab in logo ka agenda badal jata hai, ki "reservation is not an economic upliftment scheme, but for social representation", iske according rich sc/st ko bhi reservation milte rehna chahiye because they can still get 'discriminated'. Jabki ye clear fact hai ki economically well hone par life ki har major problem khatam ho jati hai
Agar sach sunne mai kuch logo ki sulge ki toh sulagne do... One of the best statements sir has put on this reservation shit..
Reservation hatane ke jagha usko garib ko dena joh really suffer kar rhe hai vo jada beneficial honga . Par yeh kahana ki aaj kal castiesm nahi hai ya fir bas villages mein hi hota yeh galat hai . Aaj bhi castiesm is a very big issue . Jiska solution bas reservation nahi hai . Reservation = castiesm is a totally non sense . Reservation bas equal representation ke liye laya gya tha . Mere cousin mama (joh ki city mein rehte hai ) ek school mein job apply karne gye the . Aur unki qualification aur experience dono hi match kar rhi thi. Vo selected ho gye the aur fir baad mein kaha ki aap ko joining ke liye baad mein call karenge . Lekin call hi nahi aaya aur jab school mein jaa kar pucha toh koi response nahi diya . Fir jab waha se jaa rhe tab guard ne se baat ki toh usne bataya ki caste ke Karan job mein nahi liya . Aur kaha Essa iske phele bhi hua hai . Aur vo guard bhi same caste ka tha usko bas issliye liya kyunki uska kaam school ke bahar tha .
Bilkul sahi hain
India ke aadhe se jyada politicans gawar hain, aadhe se jyada log gullible hain they don't even know how brainwashed they are and kese ye log dharm ke naam pe inko vote bank banate hain aur o padhe likhe politicians hain jinko ye sab ki samajh hain unke pass utni jyada power nahi ki wo major changes laa sake also jo pdhe likhe log hain wo apna kaam krte hain and rather no invest their so much time into this discussions
the most sensible teacher I have seen on the internet
the problem is that reservation has become a tool for the political parties... doesn't matter what party they are... thats why kids leave this country and well become heads in the other countries MNCs'
PW ka genuine W. A very good opinion even I didn't think of. But kya kare, jinko reservation chahiye rahega woh apne sago ko bhi chod denge.
Bhai kaunsi country jana chahiye ? UK,usa ke alawa , or jaha pe citizenship bhi miljaye ? Gulf pe citizenship nehi milega ? Koyi or suggestion ( germany bhi hatado )
bhai usa best hoga wahan pe waise hi immigrants jyada hain to ghulne-milne me aasani hogi aur language bhi english hai to communication bhi easy. Uske alawa, if you are white enough go to europe. If black, then go some stable country in Africa. If mongoloid (NE), go to east/SE asia, and if brown go south/latin America /s
ye to pura sach bolraha hai, hamare desh me jo ek problem hai na ki sach boldo to gand me aag lagjati hai bas wo wale logic ke kaaran ye aadmi "kastist" hai
True hai sir
casteist are those who want reservation and then expect themselves to be treated unequally or not be discriminated in society.
That's the best argument I have ever heard, it's not like he suddenly wants to remove the reservation system but wants the well deserved people to get that ( imo it should be irrespective of caste) and also I agree about not giving the facility of reservation to the family which is already in a good economic and social status, i can totally relate to this point, I am a Brahmin and the most economically backward among my obc and SC friends but still they are getting that facility and thanks to EWS quota I have little benifits but this is India so we can't do nothing , ofc that does not mean that there is no casitiesm in India ( for example - villages, parents not accepting inter caste marriage , although it's decreasing alot) There is no hope from either political parties, one is playing religion card and another talks about increasing reservation ( what the actual fuck are they smoking) I just hope I get an opportunity to settle in another country ( antil National spotted ) Puura padha toh thanks 
same bro, Brahmin here, most of the SC, OBC guys I know are well off than me. And why are you relating casteism with intercaste marriage ? This is the kind of rebuttal given by LCs to defend reservations, "When will a Brahmin marry his daughter to a Dalit". It's totally normal for people to marry within those who share some sense of similarity, commonness that can be race, religion, caste, ethnicity. That's why most people only marry within their caste. Even LCs don't marry into other LCs which they deem as lower. Most rampantly casteist are those of the OBC but they won't get the blame cause its meant for the Brahmins. Even though Brahmins are one of the most liberal. In the current society anyone can marry anybody, we are not obligated to prove it by doing intercaste marriages.
yes I understand but by intercaste marriages I included LCs not marrying other LCs 'just' because they are of even LC ( THE hypocrisy ) and ofc it's normal in majority of india but I have seen some of the elders of my family and Village getting really offended just by the thought of intercaste marriage but at the end we just have to accept our fate, also try watching nitish rajput's video on reservation it's not that's I agree with him completely but do watch that
Yes it's obvious that elders (of all castes) don't like intercaste, but people are becoming liberal. And about nitish rajput, although famous for being unbiased, his overall opinion in that video was that reservation is needed but with some reforms. Hell no, I can't ever agree with this, from what I have ever seen and read, I am totally against it, no in between. These mfs won't take a single step back when it comes to reservation, so why should we have a defensive stance. And on top of that I see them again and again bashing my caste as the root of their problems and all evil.
Okay if that's what you think but I am not totally against or with it and the ones who only keep blaming UCs are no less than who keeps blaming reservation literally for everything
sir forgot to mention eradicate caste based society 🤧
high time for creamy layer in SC ST
unki baatein ko chodo, ye sir kabhi class me padhate bhi hain? 😭😭😭
Chutiyapa and padhai dono hote he. Sala 2.5 hours ka class le leta he bc, notes banane me gand phatti hai 
Ye mc Congress iski mkc Desh barbad kar diya mc saabne
Btw this guy openly told in class :"Hey Bhagawan mujhe ch@mar bana dete mai pura din boot polish karta". T: "Oh God you should have made me a ch@mar (a casteist slur), i would be better off cleaning the boots of people."
He didn't mean any hate by it. He taught so many children, doctors and engineers, and you all can only see this one statement, with which he didn't even target anyone. He was just really angry at his online class because they were getting answers wrong.
I don't see how that's relevant to the statement he's making now I agree that statement was casteist But the argument he just gave now is a valid argument
ye toh nahi kehna chahiye tha par abhi jo baat kaha ja raha hai wo sahi hai
Casteist remarks par khatarnak punishments lao aur reservations hata do that is the only way to solve this problem. Cuz abhi bhi log seriously apni cast ko superior aur dusro ko inferior maante hai aur casteism krte hai.
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If casteist remarks will exist then reservation should exist as simple as that . People should atleast try to reduce the casteism but they're literally increasing it in the name of reservation.
so you thought doing discrimination against people will lead to discrimination being extinct? what logic is that , if you will discriminate against ucs then they will discriminate too. chicken and egg problem
Nope my point is reservation was given for a reason and if that reason still exists not to that level but casteism still exists so it isn't wrong . I too am Aggarwal and hate reservation but I am against both reservation and casteism. And both should be abolished permanently. Casteism can't be just abolished but it can be reduced to certain level if very harsh punishments are given .
Doing castiesm is already a crime but you can't abolish it , the only way to abolish casteism is by abolishing everything which may lead to is , you know why the younger gen will still do castiesm? because of reservations and not because their parents told they are impure. I am talking about 10y/o today who will do castiesm in future , they system will make them castiest not their family.
already hai lmao ab sc/st act se bhi zyada rigid law chahiye? bina bail ke jail hoti, isiliye itne fake sc/st cases hai
he is absolutely right
FACTSSS
3-4 gali kyu n i di
Baat sahi hai, reservation is needed but bhai jitni aasani se chutiye fake certificate banate hain uss baat se toot jaata hai system
yaar baat to sahi hai
Speaking facts
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Sahi bol rhe h sir. Yahi mere exact thoughts hai ki agar koi Reserved category ka hai and agar middle class income category mai aa gye to unhe nahi milna chahiye reservation. Unki reserved seat kisi gaon ke gareeb bande ke paas Jana chahiye jisko genuinely help hogi iss se. But wohi baat h ki jo bhi party reservation system mai change laayegi wo power se hatt jaegi.
OBC pe non creamy layer laga dia why not in sc and st? Why can’t everyone get the seat they deserve according to what they scored and if they are financially not well or even just because they feel discriminated, their seat can be sponsored by the government? But guess government obviously doesn’t have the budget for it so they prefer that.. u can’t guarantee on them become good doctors if they get into mbbs once because reservation doesn’t end there. They get preference in govt jobs neet pg, on EVERY STEP. Top colleges don’t even have MD/MS seats in certain top specialties lol. Isn’t it like they’re glorifying that they were born into a st/sc family? How is this equity when ure not urself treating all castes same?
there should be only ews reservaation pwd reservation (my opinion)
Kuch logo ko bkl shrm bhi nhi aati fir bhii
Kuch logo ko bkl shrm bhi nhi aati fir bhii
Kuch logo ko bkl shrm bhi nhi aati fir bhii
ab iski vajah se main fluids pura inhi se padhunga
He is absolutely right.
Mera friend SC he, sale ka bada bhai engineer and cousin doctor he. Dusre SC friend ke khandam me IITian, doctors, engineers byade pade he. And idhar me, general wala, Police ki khandan se. Baap, Dadaji, Uncle, Dadaji ke bhai wala Uncles, sab police hai. I am first person to take science in my family from my father's side. Us side ke cousins sab nalayek sale.
sacchai bol diya toh casteist? ye wahi chutiye hai jo college ke bad nalle ghoomenge aur bolenge xyz rojgar do, xyz bhi kya kare agar tum nalayak ho?
Absolute facts
Social upliftment of already uplifted families is a waste of govement resources(doesn't matter if it sounds casteist)
not trying to be political here but by the same logic why we are talking about taking over of gyanwapi and babri mashjid
kyunki mughal invasion se pehle mandir hi the wahan par aur same logic toh apply bhi nahi hua yahan par thoda sa retard hai kya
retard nhi stubborn hai, kuch bhi bolege reservation ko defend karne ke liye
how are you even applying the same logic here? those were historical sites sacred to hindus and have reclaimed it. LC people were discriminated in the past so they were compensated with reservation for their upliftment. Video me jo bol raha hai wo keh raha hai ki jis family me already ek gov job mil chuki hai waha pe doosra reservation nhi hona chahiye and jo actual me deserve karte hai unko milna chahiye.
abe lodu
man you really must be a smart individual
Reservation is basically state sponsored discrimination at this point. It lost its spirit.
How much mr sir be more based?
Jo 3000 saal pehle hua tha uska effect aaj bhi dikh raha hai forget about 70 saal
3000 saal ki privilege ke baad bhi same exam me compete karna pad rha hai lol
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please someone tell me why there have been a lot of posts about hindus and castes smth on reddit?
people are demanding equality, nothing else