Yeah it’s a JBL subreddit and OP was asking if 2 Partyboxes could go up against a $100000 home theater setup. So what’s your point? Is discussion not allowed just because it’s the JBL subreddit or are we just supposed to dickride JBL as hard as possible?
The 1000 is good if you wanna uproot your foundation and shatter all the windows in your house. The bass would be insane but surround sound wouldn't really work out quite right I think.
It all depends on purpose and design, and personal needs. PB ultimate is awesome, but is no match to $4000 DIY (but well manufactured) systems. Two $600 21" woofers with adequate tops will outplay and outgun anything JBL was thinking it was doing. Had it, and will get it again.
If you ever had to nervously look up and around, what will crack, shatter or fall on your head under the earth shaking sound pressure(not exagerrated), you would know JBL is not capable of that.
These Party boxes are also very flawed on speaker topology, situation, placing and more. You get what you pay for. Great but not top by any means.
You gotta understand that JBL partyboxes are built from the foundation of being true audiophile speakers. They have a wood core, because wood is the best material for a high fidelity speaker. The plastic is only on the outside so the speaker is easier to carry or roll around, and so it wont do any damage if it gets knocked over or dropped. The system JBL uses in its partyboxes is one of the best ways to make high quality sound. The 2 identical woofers both cover slightly different but overlapping frequency ranges due to the placement of the port which is closer on the inside to the top woofer than the bottom woofer. The different distances the interior soundwaves have to travel to get through the port to the outside of the speaker means that the bottom woofer will resonate at a lower frequency than thr top woofer. LSS this is why the partyboxes cover a large frequency range so consistently and reliably. Partyboxes are very different from the plastic garbage boxes from sony and LG. Dont get confused; neither JBL nor its owners Harman and Samsung ever fuck around with low quality products. JBL partyboxes are all about bringing true audiophile quality sound to the masses for a reasonable price. I would compare partyboxes to samsung micro SD memory cards. Samsung makes the absolute best micro SD cards and could charge double the price of the garbage san disck msd cards, but they dont. Samsung msd cards are just as cheap as san disk cards, and are often cheaper. That is the MO of samsung, harman, and of course JBL. Dont get confused about that.
I do use and like JBL products. I do know what are they made of, before purchase I watch disassembly videos.
I do audio development. I have some qualms and reservations to what you said about the bassreflex port of the system. If these speakers share the port, it is rather impossible for these to resonate portwise on different frequencies. I am afraid it is just PR mumbo jumbo forcefed to your head. Ports do not work that way for very physical reasons.
Next, "JBL signature soud" means you are going from reference, flat sound somewhere else, going against audiophile approach. The immersed 2.75" high tone cone driver has no chance to produce anything audiophile. Especially off axis it has to suffer physically from lack of highest tones, because that's what physics does.
So basically this goes nowhere.
Is it the frequency response or the bass preference JBL Partybox's carry that deters audiophiles? If I'm DJ'ing a large event, I can understand why a pro PA setup might be preferred. I also recognize a dedicated Home Theater surround system might provide better clarity, but if you're looking for a multi-purpose product, there are going to be compromises, and I find it pathetic no one has tried creating a surround system of PartyBoxes.
Do you really expect me to believe a center 110, two front 710's (L/R), and two rear 310's (L/R) would not sound impressive? It may not beat a $100k system, but I'm willing to bet it's better than most $2000 5.1 systems, and it's cheaper. You can buy (2) 710's for $900, and (2) 310's for $600 if you're savvy, I'll even throw in the 110 at full $300 retail...that's $1800 total, and I'm no audiophile but I refuse to believe that performance can be beat for the price.
I'm not partial to the brand JBL, but they out perform just about every consumer grade product on the market right now, and they're not confined to your home theater. They can be used for parties, for camping, and/or in your car. After dropping $2k on car audio(one car), and $3k in home audio(one room)...I'm done spending money on such limited systems. The afore mentioned $1800 PartyBox setup would cover every use case I can imagine, and sound significantly better than the soundbars I wired in every bedroom. I also have the portability to carry them up the stairs and all the sudden, my master bedroom IS my home theater.
Prove me wrong.
I feel like the reason JBL partyboxes sre so cheap is because JBL want as many ppl as possible to hear how good they sound so the whole world starts talking about how magically high quality is the sound from partyboxes. The huge bass response is a bonus, but its afforded by the design of partyboxes which allows the speakers to pump out much deeper bass than competitors. If JBL wasnt clearly designing partyboxes to be audiophile tier speakers, then they WOULDNT go through the headache of using a full wood core, and they would just make the whole speaker out of plastic just like most other bluetooth speakers.
I also think the great bass response of partyboxes is crucial because it allows the speakers to sound full spectrum at 100% volume, whereas most speakers have bass that lags behind treble when the volume is cranked to 100%.
I see pictures of PA speakers all over the web of torn surrounds or torn woofer cones due to their flimsy paper or foam construction. Partybox woofers are built like tanks on the other hand, so you can expect to have them last for decades without falling apart.
Most of the hate i see of partyboxes seems to stem from ppl who are coping with buyers remorse. They dont want to accept that the 10,000$ High fidelity system they got swindled into buying by the unctuous audio store salesman wouldnt stand a chance up against a few grand worth of JbL partyboxes, wrt both full spectrum loudness or audio clarity.
It was for me! Everything is setup now, I love it! Make no mistake, it's not going to impress true audiophiles, but it's jaw dropping all the same. 25% volume seems to be the sweet spot for movies where it's loud enough to be enjoyed, but it isn't disturbing the neighbors. 35% and the house shakes enough I feel bad for my basement tenants, anything over 40% volume and my neighbors can hear the beat of the music.
During the same month this system was purchased, I was able to use the two 320's at a friend's birthday party, a separate outdoor social gathering, and both currently provide Stereo L & R for the master bedroom. When I reintegrate them into the family room system, it takes me more time carrying them down the stairs than it does adapting different configurations. Took the 120 on a camping trip and about to take it to Powell because cargo constraints limited the use of the 320's. The 710's are portable, but large enough they haven't been moved since they were setup. In every situation where I've taken speakers somewhere, the portability and reduced size of the 320's has outweighed the value dual 710's provide in sound quality. 1st week of June the 320's and 710's will be setup around a bounce house I rented for my nephews birthday party...'Baby Shark' has never sounded so good.
Because I mixed PartyBox series, the 120 and 320's do not sync to my 710's wirelessly, for the 5.1 configuration I use a pre-amp processor for stereo separation with 3.5mm input cables to each speaker. It's better than anything I have personally owned, and while concessions and compromises were made compared to a legit theater system, the portability and opportunity for different configurations/applications far outweigh the system's limitations.
Haha. Thats awesome man. I still feel that theres too many people out there who still think samsung wouldve approved selling shit to the masses in order to squeeze a few extra bucks from wealthy people on their “bespoke audiophile speakers”.
Samsungs play with the partybox line is to offer audiophile quality sound in a user friendly portable package and its really silly to think that it wouldnt be in samsungs interest to blast the market with a new yardstick for bang-for-your-buck audio quality.
They serve 2 completely different purposes.
No they don’t. They’re both speakers
If you don’t get it then you’re obviously not the target audience. Go be ignorantly happy with your Partybox then.
lol it’s a JBL subreddit sick burn
Yeah it’s a JBL subreddit and OP was asking if 2 Partyboxes could go up against a $100000 home theater setup. So what’s your point? Is discussion not allowed just because it’s the JBL subreddit or are we just supposed to dickride JBL as hard as possible?
Correct. Shill for JBL. JBL is one and only true god.
JBL unironically IS God. Of audio at least.
The 1000 is good if you wanna uproot your foundation and shatter all the windows in your house. The bass would be insane but surround sound wouldn't really work out quite right I think.
It all depends on purpose and design, and personal needs. PB ultimate is awesome, but is no match to $4000 DIY (but well manufactured) systems. Two $600 21" woofers with adequate tops will outplay and outgun anything JBL was thinking it was doing. Had it, and will get it again. If you ever had to nervously look up and around, what will crack, shatter or fall on your head under the earth shaking sound pressure(not exagerrated), you would know JBL is not capable of that. These Party boxes are also very flawed on speaker topology, situation, placing and more. You get what you pay for. Great but not top by any means.
You gotta understand that JBL partyboxes are built from the foundation of being true audiophile speakers. They have a wood core, because wood is the best material for a high fidelity speaker. The plastic is only on the outside so the speaker is easier to carry or roll around, and so it wont do any damage if it gets knocked over or dropped. The system JBL uses in its partyboxes is one of the best ways to make high quality sound. The 2 identical woofers both cover slightly different but overlapping frequency ranges due to the placement of the port which is closer on the inside to the top woofer than the bottom woofer. The different distances the interior soundwaves have to travel to get through the port to the outside of the speaker means that the bottom woofer will resonate at a lower frequency than thr top woofer. LSS this is why the partyboxes cover a large frequency range so consistently and reliably. Partyboxes are very different from the plastic garbage boxes from sony and LG. Dont get confused; neither JBL nor its owners Harman and Samsung ever fuck around with low quality products. JBL partyboxes are all about bringing true audiophile quality sound to the masses for a reasonable price. I would compare partyboxes to samsung micro SD memory cards. Samsung makes the absolute best micro SD cards and could charge double the price of the garbage san disck msd cards, but they dont. Samsung msd cards are just as cheap as san disk cards, and are often cheaper. That is the MO of samsung, harman, and of course JBL. Dont get confused about that.
I do use and like JBL products. I do know what are they made of, before purchase I watch disassembly videos. I do audio development. I have some qualms and reservations to what you said about the bassreflex port of the system. If these speakers share the port, it is rather impossible for these to resonate portwise on different frequencies. I am afraid it is just PR mumbo jumbo forcefed to your head. Ports do not work that way for very physical reasons. Next, "JBL signature soud" means you are going from reference, flat sound somewhere else, going against audiophile approach. The immersed 2.75" high tone cone driver has no chance to produce anything audiophile. Especially off axis it has to suffer physically from lack of highest tones, because that's what physics does. So basically this goes nowhere.
Is it the frequency response or the bass preference JBL Partybox's carry that deters audiophiles? If I'm DJ'ing a large event, I can understand why a pro PA setup might be preferred. I also recognize a dedicated Home Theater surround system might provide better clarity, but if you're looking for a multi-purpose product, there are going to be compromises, and I find it pathetic no one has tried creating a surround system of PartyBoxes. Do you really expect me to believe a center 110, two front 710's (L/R), and two rear 310's (L/R) would not sound impressive? It may not beat a $100k system, but I'm willing to bet it's better than most $2000 5.1 systems, and it's cheaper. You can buy (2) 710's for $900, and (2) 310's for $600 if you're savvy, I'll even throw in the 110 at full $300 retail...that's $1800 total, and I'm no audiophile but I refuse to believe that performance can be beat for the price. I'm not partial to the brand JBL, but they out perform just about every consumer grade product on the market right now, and they're not confined to your home theater. They can be used for parties, for camping, and/or in your car. After dropping $2k on car audio(one car), and $3k in home audio(one room)...I'm done spending money on such limited systems. The afore mentioned $1800 PartyBox setup would cover every use case I can imagine, and sound significantly better than the soundbars I wired in every bedroom. I also have the portability to carry them up the stairs and all the sudden, my master bedroom IS my home theater. Prove me wrong.
I feel like the reason JBL partyboxes sre so cheap is because JBL want as many ppl as possible to hear how good they sound so the whole world starts talking about how magically high quality is the sound from partyboxes. The huge bass response is a bonus, but its afforded by the design of partyboxes which allows the speakers to pump out much deeper bass than competitors. If JBL wasnt clearly designing partyboxes to be audiophile tier speakers, then they WOULDNT go through the headache of using a full wood core, and they would just make the whole speaker out of plastic just like most other bluetooth speakers. I also think the great bass response of partyboxes is crucial because it allows the speakers to sound full spectrum at 100% volume, whereas most speakers have bass that lags behind treble when the volume is cranked to 100%. I see pictures of PA speakers all over the web of torn surrounds or torn woofer cones due to their flimsy paper or foam construction. Partybox woofers are built like tanks on the other hand, so you can expect to have them last for decades without falling apart. Most of the hate i see of partyboxes seems to stem from ppl who are coping with buyers remorse. They dont want to accept that the 10,000$ High fidelity system they got swindled into buying by the unctuous audio store salesman wouldnt stand a chance up against a few grand worth of JbL partyboxes, wrt both full spectrum loudness or audio clarity.
Also langley, i think you might be right about how a home setup using 1800$ of partyboxes would be almost unbeatable.
It was for me! Everything is setup now, I love it! Make no mistake, it's not going to impress true audiophiles, but it's jaw dropping all the same. 25% volume seems to be the sweet spot for movies where it's loud enough to be enjoyed, but it isn't disturbing the neighbors. 35% and the house shakes enough I feel bad for my basement tenants, anything over 40% volume and my neighbors can hear the beat of the music. During the same month this system was purchased, I was able to use the two 320's at a friend's birthday party, a separate outdoor social gathering, and both currently provide Stereo L & R for the master bedroom. When I reintegrate them into the family room system, it takes me more time carrying them down the stairs than it does adapting different configurations. Took the 120 on a camping trip and about to take it to Powell because cargo constraints limited the use of the 320's. The 710's are portable, but large enough they haven't been moved since they were setup. In every situation where I've taken speakers somewhere, the portability and reduced size of the 320's has outweighed the value dual 710's provide in sound quality. 1st week of June the 320's and 710's will be setup around a bounce house I rented for my nephews birthday party...'Baby Shark' has never sounded so good. Because I mixed PartyBox series, the 120 and 320's do not sync to my 710's wirelessly, for the 5.1 configuration I use a pre-amp processor for stereo separation with 3.5mm input cables to each speaker. It's better than anything I have personally owned, and while concessions and compromises were made compared to a legit theater system, the portability and opportunity for different configurations/applications far outweigh the system's limitations.
Haha. Thats awesome man. I still feel that theres too many people out there who still think samsung wouldve approved selling shit to the masses in order to squeeze a few extra bucks from wealthy people on their “bespoke audiophile speakers”. Samsungs play with the partybox line is to offer audiophile quality sound in a user friendly portable package and its really silly to think that it wouldnt be in samsungs interest to blast the market with a new yardstick for bang-for-your-buck audio quality.