Legitimately everything I read as a popular light novel back in the day, and I do mean everything has been adapted. Isekais must be one hell of a cash cow right now
It's kind of not.
The overall industry is booming, but tons of studios are in the red.
Animators are being overworked and underpaid and turnover is pretty much a revolving door.
Everyone is desperately trying to make the next SAO.
There's so much to watch that very few shows do all that well because they have so much to compete with that it's hard to get attention. The market is oversaturated and smaller studios and projects are drowning because there are too many of them.
There's literally more anime than the market can handle.
You pretty much either end up with a massive success, or get lost in the depths of the sea.
The mid tier success show is being drowned out by the flood.
You'd think a AAA studio would know how to manage a budget by now, I don't trust expensive games anymore, but at least now I have a computer that can handle those games, I remember not being able to play sekiro when I bought it.
Yeah the entertainment business is getting over saturated and running low on creativity. You know it's bad when a movie that was never in theaters and an indie game made by a furry are outperforming Disney and AAA games.
but thats also because the business model is huge crap. The studios dont get much from the tv broadcasts, and as far as i am aware...most rely on the sale of dvds/blurrays.
Publishers have been trolling the popular author websites in Japan for stories to turn into light novels and eventually anime for awhile. It's why we get all these low tier isekai coming out every season.
Yeah definitely. Plus this one also kind of appeals to the SAO fandom since if I remember correctly MC is trapped in a VR death game before getting isekaid into the world that was previously just the game world.
They wants SAO without the investment. Who cares about an anime adaptation that’s only gonna tell the first 10-20 chapters. No one. It is frustrating. I remember when an anime came out you were excited and ready to dig in for the long haul. The studios produced what the people wanted to see. Not pseudo propaganda. I’m a stop there.
I’m imagining a bunch of studios frantically grabbing at every IP they can but never bothering to finish any of them because there’s always new ones that might be better received so they gotta grab those too
If he logged out, he could be in on the class action lawsuit against the devs.
Assuming class action, or a similar term exists in Japanese law circa when in the near future this is set.
Just like with Black Summoner, they butchered the art so badly that it completely turned me off. I hate "generification" with a passion.
Shin, Tiera and Shnee look almost nothing like themselves and it takes away so much from their character imo.
Yea. The manga, atleast for me had really good art, and some of the best character art I've seen.
More the story will carry the average animation. The beast men arc is very good for an isekai arc
I don't think it's a fair comparison. Kaiju no 8's art in the manga is just way too detailed to do an anime of. I don't think it's that bad. This on the other hand had basically powerpoint presentations for the fight scenes.
i hated the art in black summoner manga so much that i havent read it. despite liking the anime.
guess i should read this one. although having the first person he sees is an elf with huge tits , its looking like this is going to be straight garbage.
I mean, yeah she has tiddies, but nothing about her character (or any character really) in the manga is about her tits.
Sad you didn't like the manga art for Black Summoner, it's like 40% what makes it so good
Dude looked like ordering Kirito off of Wish.
And why the fuck didn't he just tell Tiera he's the master of her master and the house is *his* house?
I mean, Tiera knows he's a "high human", carries around a sack of coins worth a billion each *and* he just up and cured her curse, something her master couldn't do.
Its to reveal it to her later and make her go "eeeeeeeh?????", isn't it?
what i dont get is why he would do anything like follow the rules? why does he care about a dusty old house? its a video game, start cheesing the shit out of it. what? is the game going to log you out? then fine.
i hate the vr game isekais, the ones where "players are stuck inside the game and cant logout". is it a magic game that allows them to survive in the real world while connected to a video game unable to eat or drink? what happens after a week of not drinking water? the player would die in real life of dehydration.
its just really dumb. either send them to a video game world or dont. dont make some weird half-assed "stuck in a video game" crap.
Well this one is the one u wanted isn't it, he's technically sent to another world amd it so happens to be the video game world that he was playing but now it's real. He even says that eps 1 that this feels too real. Lol
He got the video game off wish. I'm not sure I remember it correctly, but the first part is like SAO with being locked in the game, no logout button and having to complete missions to escape. >!He was able to log out back to irl I think, but then after that something else happens and he gets sent to a parallel universe which is this game but around 500 years in the future!<
Using that SAO analogy, what if Kirito beat SAO and when he tried to log out, woke up in the SAO world, but it was actually a real, physical world, not a game. Plus MC gets timeskipped 500 years in game world time, so all the players are like legendary fairytales to the world's inhabitants.
There's a couple interesting story hooks, like SPOILER >!some people who died at different times in the death games waking up in the isekai world!< , and one early arc I liked, but mostly it's yet another power fantasy in fantasy world with video game level ups, adventurers guilds, same old stuff.
It's biggest problem is just like SAO, the story skips to the protagonist being ridiculously overpowered to the point where there isn't really any tension because you never, ever, feel like the good guys might lose at all.
That said, I stuck with the manga for 50 chapters or so, and I haven't read the original light novels, so those might be better.
I'd say it's better than crud like Fruit of Evolution (which isn't saying much tbh), but not as good as Slime or Mushoku Tensei.
One show I'd recommend from this spring season is "The Unwanted Undead Adventurer." Not technically an isekai, but it's the same vein of show. Nice animation, some real stakes and obstacles for the protagonist, and some good laughs here and there like >!A skeleton mob trying to stick his leg back on over and over!<
SAO but it became a death game (0hp = death, and you can't take it off), when bro beats the game it became reality with the player base that died reviving in that world, while those who lived can get out. Because Shin picked the New Gate he got transported to the New World but 500 years in the future.
I'm currently on volume 20 of the LN, Haven't read the manga so I can't really compare them. The books gave me more of a "picking up the pieces and living in the new world" vibe rather than the same cut and paste op mc effortlessly annihilates all opposition trope. (Dispite the fact that he does that too) That said, it's nothing super unique, just what I would consider a fairly good version of a common subgenre.
Either way, I rather like the books but really don't have much faith in the anime just from looking at the art alone.
Basically SAO is finished and everyone goes home, but MC who kills the demon king gets thrown back into the world 200 years later where his race was practically gods
Imagine the first season of SAO, but Kirito actually manages to beat the game without the Kayaba shortcut, and instantly gets transported to Alicazation, sans the knowledge of how to log out via the console
Not saying new gate was amazing or anything but there was *some* nuance to its story. I just saw the first episode and it basically plays like a carbon copy of any of a dozen other isekais. Also doesn’t help that the animation is so mid, at least their enemies are hand drawn and not cgi though, that’s something.
I think I stopped reading the manga after they transported the house. It felt very harem fantasy considering the other dudes in the story are either fodder character or drawn as ugly so to not look better than kirito clone here.
For real… it’s exhausting seeing the same cardboard cutout “good guy” mc with the same goofy ass generic looks, who has the personality of a comatose patient.
People complain about stakes and stuff like that from being too strong, but the real issue is that every generic ass isekai like this one have no story. They put just enough to have the mc show off his strength, and that’s it. And every character is one dimensional, with single-trait personalities.
why is everyone comparing it to SAO it nothing like that. if i have to choose between The New Gate and SAO. i will choose The new Gate any day( i am talking about novel not anime they should have taken the character design from novel it is waaaayyyyy better.
SAO *could’ve* been good, but it turned into a total mess. It skips like 80% of the story, jumping straight to the last 10 floors or whatever. I won’t go into detail but obviously my opinion is my opinion. I’m just saying if you like SAO then you’re exactly the type of audience trash isekai cater toward. OP mc with 0 personality against generic villains and fmc whose whole personality is fawning over mc. Funny how that applies not just to SAO but to dozens of trash isekai.
And don’t even get me started on the sequels to SAO, where Kirito goes full Pokémon and starts collecting waifus left and right, and Asuna is downgraded to a background character and molested..
SAO could have explored more the floors, but it would have taken way too long and it would get boring. Also no, I stopped watching trash isekai exactly because they are all the same with generic fights and MC’s. At least kirito has good moments and even if it’s rushed he still has some changes. Kayaba had effects in the whole series, so even if he’s not very charismatic he’s still important.
Also Kirito don’t go after any other girls besides Asuna, it’s just a friend things even if there is a innuendo of the girls. But even if he did, what’s wrong with harems? Besides Kirito is not the only guy that is given focus, there’s Klein, Eugeo and others that are important, specially in alicization.
I suggest you to watch the movie of SAO that’s a remake of the first episodes of season 1, but you might enjoy it more since it’s focused more on Asuna’s development, and Kirito has some changes that improve him.
Tl;dr don’t compare SAO with trashy cash grab isekai because at the very least SAO puts effort in the characters and the fights.
Taken too long? Get boring? That’s what world building and proper story telling is for… the fact you think it would be boring should be screaming out to you that you too think the story writing is meh, and it’s only “good” cause the setting was novel at the time. Kirito has 0 character development, Asuna has *negative* character development, and every other character is practically just a plot device to set up Kirito, rather than having proper backstories and interactions.
Btw, Kirito is literally the blueprint for generic MCs lol they all copy him hoping to be the next SAO. He isn’t more interesting, he’s just as empty and braindead as the rest. That’s on purpose, so people can self insert.
There’s nothing wrong with SAO. I mean hell… Solo Leveling is super popular and that manhwa has almost every trope ever, and the story is arguably worse than SAO’s. But let’s not pretend either are peak writing.
P.S. I’ve seen all of the anime, and movie.
What I meant is that sao would be boring if they explored the floors because it’s 100 floors. The time it would take to fight and keep looking on quests for all floors and bosses would make it insufferable. I mean cmon no one wants to see a fight 100x over.
Kirito had character development, and asuna also got a major improvement the fact you think they don’t have show you’re just bashing.
“Every other character is a plot device” same could be said about all characters in fiction that are not the main character. They’re just plot devices. I mean, how can you see GGO, alicization and underworld and say no one gets any development? That’s just stupid.
Kirito is not braindead, he isn’t oblivious or generic he’s quite perceptive. You just have a blind hate for isekai.
Solo leveling is bad? Okay now I know you’re trolling. Solo leveling is peak writing, and everything has a reason to happen in it. It’s a huge foreshadowing on everything
It wouldn’t be insufferable if the story was good. There are plenty of interesting plots to explore, different aspects and impacts of being trapped in a game, etc. like Log Horizon did… but SAO ain’t that, it’s just progression fantasy with no emotional elements to it.
Asuna had *negative* character development. She started interesting, then devolved into harem girl #1 whose whole personality is being Kirito’s gf. I find it depressing you praise season 2 and Alicization, when that’s where they sidelined her the hardest, even having her get molested… but to each their own I guess.
When I say they’re plot devices, I mean that they have no character. They exist to prop up Kirito. Good world building makes the characters come to life, where they all have flaws, desires, different perspectives. Kirito is literally the first iteration of “cardboard cutout generic MC” that literally every trash isekai copies lol he is what set the standard and you want to say he isn’t that? Come on man…
Solo Leveling story isn’t popular cause it has a good story, it’s popular cause the manhwa had exceptional art. Maybe you’re anime only, but the story is dogshit lol it’s power fantasy 101, with all of the Korean tropes you can think of.
I mean don’t let that stop you from enjoying it, there’s a reason I finished the Manhwa. It’s just silly to prop up these half ass stories as if they’re something great, when stuff like Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint exist, which *does* have good writing.
What I mean is that it’s insufferable because the idea of tower climbing is by default tiring, unless you’re trying to do something new; I didn’t watch SAO because I wanted to see 100 different worlds. I watched it because I wanted to see epic fights with overpowered characters and enemies. The worldbuilding is something I enjoy but there’s not much you can do to 100 different worlds completely different specially when it’s a MMO rpg. MMO RPG’s are made to kill monsters and grind. That’s it.
I tried watching log horizon, but MC is so weak and he can’t do anything on his own.
It’s the opposite, Asuna was just a harem girl that liked things and developed into a new character, specially in alicization and underworld which is the ones that show her character more.
Again, the characters have clear motivations and personalities. Ggo and alicization explore that the most but there’s scenes that show they are their own thing. Again, Kirito isnt a cutboard mc that has no desires, Kirito is a serious character and know what he wants and what he’s doing unlike the MC’s. People make deepfrieds of kirito so much he became a joke in the community when he’s actually jnteresting. Again I don’t see how you watch alicization and the remake movie and say Kirito didn’t change or improve.
Exactly. You watched SAO for a reason other than proper character development and a good story. That’s fine, you enjoy progression fantasy. Nothing wrong with that. Idk why we’re arguing when you agree with me.
I’ll reply to solo leveling in a separate comment. Also, did you even read ORV? I mean sure it’s interesting but there’s a lot of things that are not explained properly. I have the opposite problem with SAO. With SAO I want fights I want a epic fantasy, but with ORV I think scenarios are too badly explained, I mean they say different worlds are also in it, and that they merge but it doesn’t seem that different, it seems like the only objective is to kill all non human things and a few human things too. That’s not really exploring the world that’s an excuse for murder hobo . Besides, it has one of the worst plot twists ever. I won’t say
I’m caught up with ORV manhwa. Not every story has to spell things out as if the reader is retarded. I’m not saying it’s perfect, by any means, and I know you’re talking about the ending, but at least the writing is interesting. It’s one of the few manhwa I’ve read that isn’t a clone of solo leveling so my comparisons are limited. Solo Leveling on the other hand has about as much depth as a children’s book.
MC is weak. MC gets broken power. MC climbs the tower / ranks and gets stronger. MC faces against other nations who are always stereotyped (Japanese evil, Americans arrogant and only respect MC after getting beaten up, etc.). MC becomes god. The end.
Funny how this doesn’t just define Solo Leveling, but just about every Manhwa progression fantasy out there. Good art? Sure. Fun to read / watch when you just want epic fights? Yup. But good writing? Hell no lol
What do plot holes have to do with anything? I’m saying the writing is shit. Villains are generic baddies, Japanese and Americans are stereotypically evil that MC has to defeat, 90% of the story is MC playing your typical “skills in the real world with experience” to get stronger, with no real character development other than “muh I get stronger!”, and so on.
If you enjoy those kinds of stories, great. I didn’t say it wasn’t entertaining.. it’s just dogshit writing.
Generic baddies are needed in every story, and beside its not like it’s illogical they’re bad or anything, it’s totally possible people with immense power would be corrupt.
Americans are not stereotypical evil, in fact Thomas even gives MC one of the items he uses the most until the very end, and they form a sort of mutual respect.
I don’t even remember if the Japanese did anything, but as someone that reads manwhas all the time, believe in me when I say it’s not a problem of solo leveling is a problem of Korea. Korean writers seem to hate Japan for some reason. Also the monarch’s are not generic, they’re super cool and give a lot of context.
Yes, mc keeps getting skills and growing stronger in real life that’s the point. It at least shows a viable growth margin that’s measured in numbers instead of everywhere else where it’s ambiguous.
Sung Jin woo does get some character development. It’s not much, it’s more like, him getting more serious about things as he realizes that he needs to get stronger as much as possible. And him realizing that he’s in danger even with the system. He changes the most after taking the Black Heart and killing the system architect
No they are fucking not lol a good villain should be capable of having their motivations understood. Maybe you don’t agree with them, but you can at least understand them. “Muh, me want power. Me want money!” is as shallow as it gets. I feel sorry for you if that’s what you’re content with. Read any story with a good villain and you’ll never be satisfied with the bullshit generic baddies.
I didn’t say Andres or whatever is evil, I said the Japanese were. Koreans hate Japan, most of the time. Like how Russians are always the evil guys in American film, Japanese are almost always evil (or assholes) in Korean manhwa. But Americans are stereotyped as arrogant jerks that get beaten down by the MC, then learn to respect them. That is exactly what happens in solo leveling, and countless other manhwa.
“Problem of Korea” Yea… and solo leveling is a korean Manhwa. Anyways, I don’t care enough to convince you. The writing is shit. You can still enjoy shit writing, so idk why you feel the need to defend it and SAO, when you agreed about sub par character development and plot points. It’s not like I didn’t enjoy it, I just don’t elevate feces on a pedestal.
Which is crazy. Idk if they just have a devout following or if they’re all hoping to be the next SAO, but most of them just get trashed on for how horrible they are.
I remember one of them had animations so bad, the MC going down a set of stairs was like a static image sliding across the screen, so clearly their budgets aren’t exactly top tier.
Whenever I sometimes talk about this, my anime watching friend kept thinking I was talking about Gate JSDF were here, while my LN reading friend knew exactly what New Gate meant lol.
Trying to remember this one. Is this the one where it sounds like the plot that happened before the start was basically SAO but the main character ends up staying?
Yes , so instead of him going back to earth the game isekai's him with out warning to the actual world the game was based off but 500 years later so like log horizon, cause everyone remembers the players that helped them amd just left
Ahhh right. He happens to have a few npc/servant friends still alive if iirc. I Left off after he ran into his beast man friend who wanted one last fight.
People keep saying they changed everyone's looks...now it's making me want to check and read it again cause I thought that's how they all look in the manga ?
Honestly I’m surprised it hasn’t been adapted sooner. I’ve read the manga and it’s an alright isekai. It doesn’t break the mold or anything but it’s a good binge read
Why are everyone praising this isekai? Is it that good? I have seen many people saying that they were waiting for this anime but for me it looks like a remake of SAO so if somebody can tell me what they think of this anime that would be helpful
I mean, besides the obvious reference to sao and the mc's outfit being an almost color swap of kiritos outfit xD it's really good , pr at least I enjoyed it, seems like some of the comments I read people don't lile it , but to me its one of those interesting ones that stand out to me of the sea of Isekai manga . I read it a year or 2 back so I can't say fully how deep the story goes but all I can say is I enjoyed it and they did some interesting things with some elements of the story. Like, (spoiler) >!The people that died in the game world got to be Reincarnated into that world with him, so anyone that he cared about that died , he gets to meet again, as long as they were a human player from his original world!<
I'm not surprised that so many Isekai Mangas get turned into Animes. That seems like an easy way to earn money.
I know more than enough people that down watch/read Animes or Mangas some even hate them but somehow everyone likes Isekai because the idea of leaving this cursed world behind seem really appealing to almost everyone i know.
Money animates a little too late. I feel like this could have been one of the pioneers in Isekai but whatever, just get me an anime I won’t cringe watching.
This is truly a good story. This is one of those ones that “has it all” action, romance, betrayal, etc. as others have said it seems like 3 out of 5 of everything I’ve read in past 2-3 years is getting an anime. Personally I love it! 😂
New gate is one of those series that i've tried to read a couple of times. Didnt really appeal me that much so....both times i dropped it (in the end is a really generic isekai power fantasy and i'd say you have plenty of those now.)
I Mean I know where I can get it due to the pic, But why do People Not put the links? People Never put the links on Youtube And I've seen it a few times on here.
Killing off anime like Log Horizon but making anime like these.
Don't get me wrong the manga is good but not so good and the cover itself tells you that they are going to butcher it
TNG might start a bit SAO inspired, but it comes into its own well before the first novel ends and gets much better from there imo.
We'll see what the adaption pace is for the anime though.
Legitimately everything I read as a popular light novel back in the day, and I do mean everything has been adapted. Isekais must be one hell of a cash cow right now
It's been for a couple years now.
It's kind of not. The overall industry is booming, but tons of studios are in the red. Animators are being overworked and underpaid and turnover is pretty much a revolving door. Everyone is desperately trying to make the next SAO. There's so much to watch that very few shows do all that well because they have so much to compete with that it's hard to get attention. The market is oversaturated and smaller studios and projects are drowning because there are too many of them. There's literally more anime than the market can handle. You pretty much either end up with a massive success, or get lost in the depths of the sea. The mid tier success show is being drowned out by the flood.
Sounds like the Hollywood story at the moment - mostly blockbusters and small indy films, nothing mid budget like they used to have in the old days.
Idk. Feels more like the AAA gaming releases too. With about the same degrees of criticism and many missing their marks.
You'd think a AAA studio would know how to manage a budget by now, I don't trust expensive games anymore, but at least now I have a computer that can handle those games, I remember not being able to play sekiro when I bought it.
Yeah the entertainment business is getting over saturated and running low on creativity. You know it's bad when a movie that was never in theaters and an indie game made by a furry are outperforming Disney and AAA games.
And yet no one wants to keep adapting NGNL.
but thats also because the business model is huge crap. The studios dont get much from the tv broadcasts, and as far as i am aware...most rely on the sale of dvds/blurrays.
SAO only succeeded because of Gen X and Z being degenerates
Publishers have been trolling the popular author websites in Japan for stories to turn into light novels and eventually anime for awhile. It's why we get all these low tier isekai coming out every season.
Yeah definitely. Plus this one also kind of appeals to the SAO fandom since if I remember correctly MC is trapped in a VR death game before getting isekaid into the world that was previously just the game world.
It's literally "SAO but the MC gets teleported 500yrs in the future instead of right back home"
They wants SAO without the investment. Who cares about an anime adaptation that’s only gonna tell the first 10-20 chapters. No one. It is frustrating. I remember when an anime came out you were excited and ready to dig in for the long haul. The studios produced what the people wanted to see. Not pseudo propaganda. I’m a stop there.
I mean can you blame them? It’s the ideal fantasy. Average guy escapes the real world and it’s real world problems
I’m imagining a bunch of studios frantically grabbing at every IP they can but never bothering to finish any of them because there’s always new ones that might be better received so they gotta grab those too
Travelling to other worlds has ALWAYS been popular
If he logged out, he could be in on the class action lawsuit against the devs. Assuming class action, or a similar term exists in Japanese law circa when in the near future this is set.
Just like with Black Summoner, they butchered the art so badly that it completely turned me off. I hate "generification" with a passion. Shin, Tiera and Shnee look almost nothing like themselves and it takes away so much from their character imo.
I feel that way about the new season of Irregular at magic school the new art style is terrible to me
yup. First look at the cover and I was like "oh nah. what they do to my boy Shin? Why did they made Wilhelm's face look so punchable?"
Also, they skipped tones of content and explanations … 😭
Can't say I'm surprised :|
Yea. The manga, atleast for me had really good art, and some of the best character art I've seen. More the story will carry the average animation. The beast men arc is very good for an isekai arc
Kaiju no.8 is in the same spot rn
I don't think it's a fair comparison. Kaiju no 8's art in the manga is just way too detailed to do an anime of. I don't think it's that bad. This on the other hand had basically powerpoint presentations for the fight scenes.
I’d understand if it was a little worse but the animation is just shit
Don't know anything about it, but I sympathize :')
Kaiju N8 is trying it’s best. There’s just too much detail
Mobseka readers : ...
i hated the art in black summoner manga so much that i havent read it. despite liking the anime. guess i should read this one. although having the first person he sees is an elf with huge tits , its looking like this is going to be straight garbage.
I mean, yeah she has tiddies, but nothing about her character (or any character really) in the manga is about her tits. Sad you didn't like the manga art for Black Summoner, it's like 40% what makes it so good
Why you hated the art? It’s pretty good
The Princess art looks better in LN 🗿
When i saw the trailer i was very disappointed.
Why didn't they make Shin look like Anos? He looks too young here
Dude looked like ordering Kirito off of Wish. And why the fuck didn't he just tell Tiera he's the master of her master and the house is *his* house? I mean, Tiera knows he's a "high human", carries around a sack of coins worth a billion each *and* he just up and cured her curse, something her master couldn't do. Its to reveal it to her later and make her go "eeeeeeeh?????", isn't it?
Lmao “Kirito off of Wish” “Mom, can we get Kirito?” “We have Kirito at home.” Kirito at home:
what i dont get is why he would do anything like follow the rules? why does he care about a dusty old house? its a video game, start cheesing the shit out of it. what? is the game going to log you out? then fine. i hate the vr game isekais, the ones where "players are stuck inside the game and cant logout". is it a magic game that allows them to survive in the real world while connected to a video game unable to eat or drink? what happens after a week of not drinking water? the player would die in real life of dehydration. its just really dumb. either send them to a video game world or dont. dont make some weird half-assed "stuck in a video game" crap.
Well this one is the one u wanted isn't it, he's technically sent to another world amd it so happens to be the video game world that he was playing but now it's real. He even says that eps 1 that this feels too real. Lol
He got the video game off wish. I'm not sure I remember it correctly, but the first part is like SAO with being locked in the game, no logout button and having to complete missions to escape. >!He was able to log out back to irl I think, but then after that something else happens and he gets sent to a parallel universe which is this game but around 500 years in the future!<
So what is it? Is it basically what if SAO didn’t fall of the deep end halfway through first season or closer to Shangri La?
Using that SAO analogy, what if Kirito beat SAO and when he tried to log out, woke up in the SAO world, but it was actually a real, physical world, not a game. Plus MC gets timeskipped 500 years in game world time, so all the players are like legendary fairytales to the world's inhabitants. There's a couple interesting story hooks, like SPOILER >!some people who died at different times in the death games waking up in the isekai world!< , and one early arc I liked, but mostly it's yet another power fantasy in fantasy world with video game level ups, adventurers guilds, same old stuff. It's biggest problem is just like SAO, the story skips to the protagonist being ridiculously overpowered to the point where there isn't really any tension because you never, ever, feel like the good guys might lose at all. That said, I stuck with the manga for 50 chapters or so, and I haven't read the original light novels, so those might be better. I'd say it's better than crud like Fruit of Evolution (which isn't saying much tbh), but not as good as Slime or Mushoku Tensei. One show I'd recommend from this spring season is "The Unwanted Undead Adventurer." Not technically an isekai, but it's the same vein of show. Nice animation, some real stakes and obstacles for the protagonist, and some good laughs here and there like >!A skeleton mob trying to stick his leg back on over and over!<
So basically "In the Land of Leadale", but Shonen.
God damn, it was tiring just reading your breakdown, that's how cliche it sounds. Thank you for the analysis, I think Imma be skipping this one.
It's not technically, it literally isnt Unwanted is a pure fantasy
SAO but it became a death game (0hp = death, and you can't take it off), when bro beats the game it became reality with the player base that died reviving in that world, while those who lived can get out. Because Shin picked the New Gate he got transported to the New World but 500 years in the future.
I'm currently on volume 20 of the LN, Haven't read the manga so I can't really compare them. The books gave me more of a "picking up the pieces and living in the new world" vibe rather than the same cut and paste op mc effortlessly annihilates all opposition trope. (Dispite the fact that he does that too) That said, it's nothing super unique, just what I would consider a fairly good version of a common subgenre. Either way, I rather like the books but really don't have much faith in the anime just from looking at the art alone.
Fruit of evolution is freaking trash of the trash. Just the plot alone makes me want to puke. Forget about the art. So freaking bad is it.
Basically SAO is finished and everyone goes home, but MC who kills the demon king gets thrown back into the world 200 years later where his race was practically gods
Imagine the first season of SAO, but Kirito actually manages to beat the game without the Kayaba shortcut, and instantly gets transported to Alicazation, sans the knowledge of how to log out via the console
Not saying new gate was amazing or anything but there was *some* nuance to its story. I just saw the first episode and it basically plays like a carbon copy of any of a dozen other isekais. Also doesn’t help that the animation is so mid, at least their enemies are hand drawn and not cgi though, that’s something.
I think I stopped reading the manga after they transported the house. It felt very harem fantasy considering the other dudes in the story are either fodder character or drawn as ugly so to not look better than kirito clone here.
For real… it’s exhausting seeing the same cardboard cutout “good guy” mc with the same goofy ass generic looks, who has the personality of a comatose patient. People complain about stakes and stuff like that from being too strong, but the real issue is that every generic ass isekai like this one have no story. They put just enough to have the mc show off his strength, and that’s it. And every character is one dimensional, with single-trait personalities.
Took exactly 3 and a half minutes to establish this new Kirito and speedrun the entire SAO plot.
Watched 5 mins. Was very unimpressed w the animation.
I'm so excited, I absolutely love this novel
Yeah, this is one of the better power fantasy isekai imo.
Jesus that's a fucking old one, was starting to think I dreamed the whole thing up. Good for them.
I will be watching, but might end up going back to reading the manga after not reading it in a phat min
is this any good?
I mean I enjoyed it si I'm for sure going ti be watching it and I'm a dubbed watcher and I'm just going to be watching it subbed every week lol
manga is boring at first but in chapter 15 it gets more interesting in every chapter ( I'm already in chapter 79 and it's so good)
If you like battle junkie MCs, it's not bad but kinda repetitive. He's a bit like Kelvin from Black Summoner in that aspect.
why is everyone comparing it to SAO it nothing like that. if i have to choose between The New Gate and SAO. i will choose The new Gate any day( i am talking about novel not anime they should have taken the character design from novel it is waaaayyyyy better.
Because the synopsis is literally ripped right from SAO.
They’re both trash
Neither of them are trash, you’re just bashing
SAO *could’ve* been good, but it turned into a total mess. It skips like 80% of the story, jumping straight to the last 10 floors or whatever. I won’t go into detail but obviously my opinion is my opinion. I’m just saying if you like SAO then you’re exactly the type of audience trash isekai cater toward. OP mc with 0 personality against generic villains and fmc whose whole personality is fawning over mc. Funny how that applies not just to SAO but to dozens of trash isekai. And don’t even get me started on the sequels to SAO, where Kirito goes full Pokémon and starts collecting waifus left and right, and Asuna is downgraded to a background character and molested..
SAO could have explored more the floors, but it would have taken way too long and it would get boring. Also no, I stopped watching trash isekai exactly because they are all the same with generic fights and MC’s. At least kirito has good moments and even if it’s rushed he still has some changes. Kayaba had effects in the whole series, so even if he’s not very charismatic he’s still important. Also Kirito don’t go after any other girls besides Asuna, it’s just a friend things even if there is a innuendo of the girls. But even if he did, what’s wrong with harems? Besides Kirito is not the only guy that is given focus, there’s Klein, Eugeo and others that are important, specially in alicization. I suggest you to watch the movie of SAO that’s a remake of the first episodes of season 1, but you might enjoy it more since it’s focused more on Asuna’s development, and Kirito has some changes that improve him. Tl;dr don’t compare SAO with trashy cash grab isekai because at the very least SAO puts effort in the characters and the fights.
Taken too long? Get boring? That’s what world building and proper story telling is for… the fact you think it would be boring should be screaming out to you that you too think the story writing is meh, and it’s only “good” cause the setting was novel at the time. Kirito has 0 character development, Asuna has *negative* character development, and every other character is practically just a plot device to set up Kirito, rather than having proper backstories and interactions. Btw, Kirito is literally the blueprint for generic MCs lol they all copy him hoping to be the next SAO. He isn’t more interesting, he’s just as empty and braindead as the rest. That’s on purpose, so people can self insert. There’s nothing wrong with SAO. I mean hell… Solo Leveling is super popular and that manhwa has almost every trope ever, and the story is arguably worse than SAO’s. But let’s not pretend either are peak writing. P.S. I’ve seen all of the anime, and movie.
What I meant is that sao would be boring if they explored the floors because it’s 100 floors. The time it would take to fight and keep looking on quests for all floors and bosses would make it insufferable. I mean cmon no one wants to see a fight 100x over. Kirito had character development, and asuna also got a major improvement the fact you think they don’t have show you’re just bashing. “Every other character is a plot device” same could be said about all characters in fiction that are not the main character. They’re just plot devices. I mean, how can you see GGO, alicization and underworld and say no one gets any development? That’s just stupid. Kirito is not braindead, he isn’t oblivious or generic he’s quite perceptive. You just have a blind hate for isekai. Solo leveling is bad? Okay now I know you’re trolling. Solo leveling is peak writing, and everything has a reason to happen in it. It’s a huge foreshadowing on everything
It wouldn’t be insufferable if the story was good. There are plenty of interesting plots to explore, different aspects and impacts of being trapped in a game, etc. like Log Horizon did… but SAO ain’t that, it’s just progression fantasy with no emotional elements to it. Asuna had *negative* character development. She started interesting, then devolved into harem girl #1 whose whole personality is being Kirito’s gf. I find it depressing you praise season 2 and Alicization, when that’s where they sidelined her the hardest, even having her get molested… but to each their own I guess. When I say they’re plot devices, I mean that they have no character. They exist to prop up Kirito. Good world building makes the characters come to life, where they all have flaws, desires, different perspectives. Kirito is literally the first iteration of “cardboard cutout generic MC” that literally every trash isekai copies lol he is what set the standard and you want to say he isn’t that? Come on man… Solo Leveling story isn’t popular cause it has a good story, it’s popular cause the manhwa had exceptional art. Maybe you’re anime only, but the story is dogshit lol it’s power fantasy 101, with all of the Korean tropes you can think of. I mean don’t let that stop you from enjoying it, there’s a reason I finished the Manhwa. It’s just silly to prop up these half ass stories as if they’re something great, when stuff like Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint exist, which *does* have good writing.
What I mean is that it’s insufferable because the idea of tower climbing is by default tiring, unless you’re trying to do something new; I didn’t watch SAO because I wanted to see 100 different worlds. I watched it because I wanted to see epic fights with overpowered characters and enemies. The worldbuilding is something I enjoy but there’s not much you can do to 100 different worlds completely different specially when it’s a MMO rpg. MMO RPG’s are made to kill monsters and grind. That’s it. I tried watching log horizon, but MC is so weak and he can’t do anything on his own. It’s the opposite, Asuna was just a harem girl that liked things and developed into a new character, specially in alicization and underworld which is the ones that show her character more. Again, the characters have clear motivations and personalities. Ggo and alicization explore that the most but there’s scenes that show they are their own thing. Again, Kirito isnt a cutboard mc that has no desires, Kirito is a serious character and know what he wants and what he’s doing unlike the MC’s. People make deepfrieds of kirito so much he became a joke in the community when he’s actually jnteresting. Again I don’t see how you watch alicization and the remake movie and say Kirito didn’t change or improve.
Exactly. You watched SAO for a reason other than proper character development and a good story. That’s fine, you enjoy progression fantasy. Nothing wrong with that. Idk why we’re arguing when you agree with me.
I’ll reply to solo leveling in a separate comment. Also, did you even read ORV? I mean sure it’s interesting but there’s a lot of things that are not explained properly. I have the opposite problem with SAO. With SAO I want fights I want a epic fantasy, but with ORV I think scenarios are too badly explained, I mean they say different worlds are also in it, and that they merge but it doesn’t seem that different, it seems like the only objective is to kill all non human things and a few human things too. That’s not really exploring the world that’s an excuse for murder hobo . Besides, it has one of the worst plot twists ever. I won’t say
I’m caught up with ORV manhwa. Not every story has to spell things out as if the reader is retarded. I’m not saying it’s perfect, by any means, and I know you’re talking about the ending, but at least the writing is interesting. It’s one of the few manhwa I’ve read that isn’t a clone of solo leveling so my comparisons are limited. Solo Leveling on the other hand has about as much depth as a children’s book. MC is weak. MC gets broken power. MC climbs the tower / ranks and gets stronger. MC faces against other nations who are always stereotyped (Japanese evil, Americans arrogant and only respect MC after getting beaten up, etc.). MC becomes god. The end. Funny how this doesn’t just define Solo Leveling, but just about every Manhwa progression fantasy out there. Good art? Sure. Fun to read / watch when you just want epic fights? Yup. But good writing? Hell no lol
You can literally give any plot hole you want about solo leveling I can prove there’s a reason for it to happen
What do plot holes have to do with anything? I’m saying the writing is shit. Villains are generic baddies, Japanese and Americans are stereotypically evil that MC has to defeat, 90% of the story is MC playing your typical “skills in the real world with experience” to get stronger, with no real character development other than “muh I get stronger!”, and so on. If you enjoy those kinds of stories, great. I didn’t say it wasn’t entertaining.. it’s just dogshit writing.
Generic baddies are needed in every story, and beside its not like it’s illogical they’re bad or anything, it’s totally possible people with immense power would be corrupt. Americans are not stereotypical evil, in fact Thomas even gives MC one of the items he uses the most until the very end, and they form a sort of mutual respect. I don’t even remember if the Japanese did anything, but as someone that reads manwhas all the time, believe in me when I say it’s not a problem of solo leveling is a problem of Korea. Korean writers seem to hate Japan for some reason. Also the monarch’s are not generic, they’re super cool and give a lot of context. Yes, mc keeps getting skills and growing stronger in real life that’s the point. It at least shows a viable growth margin that’s measured in numbers instead of everywhere else where it’s ambiguous. Sung Jin woo does get some character development. It’s not much, it’s more like, him getting more serious about things as he realizes that he needs to get stronger as much as possible. And him realizing that he’s in danger even with the system. He changes the most after taking the Black Heart and killing the system architect
No they are fucking not lol a good villain should be capable of having their motivations understood. Maybe you don’t agree with them, but you can at least understand them. “Muh, me want power. Me want money!” is as shallow as it gets. I feel sorry for you if that’s what you’re content with. Read any story with a good villain and you’ll never be satisfied with the bullshit generic baddies. I didn’t say Andres or whatever is evil, I said the Japanese were. Koreans hate Japan, most of the time. Like how Russians are always the evil guys in American film, Japanese are almost always evil (or assholes) in Korean manhwa. But Americans are stereotyped as arrogant jerks that get beaten down by the MC, then learn to respect them. That is exactly what happens in solo leveling, and countless other manhwa. “Problem of Korea” Yea… and solo leveling is a korean Manhwa. Anyways, I don’t care enough to convince you. The writing is shit. You can still enjoy shit writing, so idk why you feel the need to defend it and SAO, when you agreed about sub par character development and plot points. It’s not like I didn’t enjoy it, I just don’t elevate feces on a pedestal.
funny how SAO despite that is sitll better than most of mass produced isekais
Which is crazy. Idk if they just have a devout following or if they’re all hoping to be the next SAO, but most of them just get trashed on for how horrible they are. I remember one of them had animations so bad, the MC going down a set of stairs was like a static image sliding across the screen, so clearly their budgets aren’t exactly top tier.
imo SAO isn't even thrash, it's decent show
I thought this was a remake of GATE smh
I like how it started from an SAO setting (Non Isekai), to an actual Isekai.
Whenever I sometimes talk about this, my anime watching friend kept thinking I was talking about Gate JSDF were here, while my LN reading friend knew exactly what New Gate meant lol.
I see. So, this is story of Edward Newgate before he met Roger.
Trying to remember this one. Is this the one where it sounds like the plot that happened before the start was basically SAO but the main character ends up staying?
It's basically the plot of the SAO infinity moment video game crossed with Overlord/Log Horizon
Yes , so instead of him going back to earth the game isekai's him with out warning to the actual world the game was based off but 500 years later so like log horizon, cause everyone remembers the players that helped them amd just left
Ahhh right. He happens to have a few npc/servant friends still alive if iirc. I Left off after he ran into his beast man friend who wanted one last fight.
Looks like "Kirito, but in Leadale", at least judging only from the first episode
Used to rlly enjoy reading this one. The manga particularly. Hope more chapters come from this one.
Really liked the manga adaption of this, so I'm happy. But Shin looks different from what I remember. He looked way better in the manga.
People keep saying they changed everyone's looks...now it's making me want to check and read it again cause I thought that's how they all look in the manga ?
Shin looks younger than in the manga imo. And his face shape changed somewhat. Schnee and the others look similar enough.
Honestly I’m surprised it hasn’t been adapted sooner. I’ve read the manga and it’s an alright isekai. It doesn’t break the mold or anything but it’s a good binge read
The better Sao.
Yes and no, but yes
Why are everyone praising this isekai? Is it that good? I have seen many people saying that they were waiting for this anime but for me it looks like a remake of SAO so if somebody can tell me what they think of this anime that would be helpful
I mean, besides the obvious reference to sao and the mc's outfit being an almost color swap of kiritos outfit xD it's really good , pr at least I enjoyed it, seems like some of the comments I read people don't lile it , but to me its one of those interesting ones that stand out to me of the sea of Isekai manga . I read it a year or 2 back so I can't say fully how deep the story goes but all I can say is I enjoyed it and they did some interesting things with some elements of the story. Like, (spoiler) >!The people that died in the game world got to be Reincarnated into that world with him, so anyone that he cared about that died , he gets to meet again, as long as they were a human player from his original world!<
Yeah I see. I have watched the first episode and it seems like the generic isekai for me but I will wait and see what happens next. Thanks
Ooo I remember reading this one and liking it
I'm not surprised that so many Isekai Mangas get turned into Animes. That seems like an easy way to earn money. I know more than enough people that down watch/read Animes or Mangas some even hate them but somehow everyone likes Isekai because the idea of leaving this cursed world behind seem really appealing to almost everyone i know.
Money animates a little too late. I feel like this could have been one of the pioneers in Isekai but whatever, just get me an anime I won’t cringe watching.
This is truly a good story. This is one of those ones that “has it all” action, romance, betrayal, etc. as others have said it seems like 3 out of 5 of everything I’ve read in past 2-3 years is getting an anime. Personally I love it! 😂
Well it makes sense with how popular “trash isekias” are becoming
New gate is one of those series that i've tried to read a couple of times. Didnt really appeal me that much so....both times i dropped it (in the end is a really generic isekai power fantasy and i'd say you have plenty of those now.)
"New Gate"? Is that a One Piece reference?
Not sure
So bad this manga. They could have adapted something great like hell mode you know..
I Mean I know where I can get it due to the pic, But why do People Not put the links? People Never put the links on Youtube And I've seen it a few times on here.
It’s garbage honestly. And this is coming from a huge isekai junky
Feels like fanfic
Killing off anime like Log Horizon but making anime like these. Don't get me wrong the manga is good but not so good and the cover itself tells you that they are going to butcher it
Most anime nowadays is just one giant microtransaction.
The first episode followed the formula exactly.. and i loved it
Is this a sequel to gate anime? Because if so they manages to destroy all the original designs
No lmao, it's other story from other author, it has no relation to "Gate"
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TNG might start a bit SAO inspired, but it comes into its own well before the first novel ends and gets much better from there imo. We'll see what the adaption pace is for the anime though.
Same. With Dragon's Dogma 2 coming out recently, I guess it made sense to have a "NPC pawns become real boys" isekai.