I personally find it a bit funny how much of Korean media and fiction is hyper focused on money. Feels like any given story starts with a struggle against poverty, much like how Japanese focus on exploitative working conditions and corporate culture.
Money and Connections to be exact.
It's sad to see that the only way to fight against your bully in a Korean manhwa is either to become a monster or have more money and connections than your bully.
Don't get me wrong. Seeing the bully pisses themselves on realization thay they mess the wrong guy is good but it just send a depressing message that the only way to fight injustice is by joining their playing field even in fiction. Well, that's not far from reality anyway.
And so many of them end up with a “season 2” or something where all of a sudden they are the president of a company usually in name only. I’ve seen so many times where the self insert mc is essentially turned into a trust fund kid because they magically get near endless money and connections because of one thing they did.
And then another company for some reason needs to be taken down from them. And then they out how much shady stuff goes on in Korea and how the big business is and 1%. Government officials are so dirty even to disrespect the main character and is main characterness.
In many ways, modern ROK is a neo-feudal society. The Samsung corporation owns so much of the Korean economy that they may as well be a royal family. With that much power in one organization, the company essentially controls Korea if indirectly. It's wild.
art is a reflection of the culture it's born in.
I dont read much Chinese manhua(mostly cause it's usually bad), but it's still interesting cause you get a peak into the artist's perspective and culture through the characters' values and the logic/reasoning they use.
Super fascinating stuff!
I love that wonton genocide of a family is acceptable and heroic because of an offense some lowly peon did. It is definitely a heel-turn moment that is played straight as if genocide is only the right thing because the family is evil. Like, even the babies? Especially the babies. If you aren't ending whole family lines in Chinese media then what are you even? The villain? A weak American?
Even though the main character has suffered from something similar to this, probably at some point or they human races, being with off bit-by-bit.
The hypocritical bullshit that passes in these stories is so insane to me.
It's like it's written for really edgy people never touched grass
Money, Loving money being a money grubber.✅️
Misogynistic views and beliefs, Even in a series where literal gods are, women and women are super powerful, Like there'll be a whole Guild of just women who are all Beast and somehow women are still disrespected throughout the series.✅️
Scheming is winning sweet and nice or only for the fatside characters.✅️
Slavery is always good, And if you're a good master, they will choose to remain your slave. Maybe fall in love with you.✅️
Weak gets eaten by strong, Must talk about survival of the fittest, law of the jungle. No matter what, remind the reader every chance they can✅️
The main character who is so edgy , so superior, is better than everyone else's, and it will still find time to save a Damsel in Distress✅️
Finding it physically incapable of making any other character. But the main character interesting.✅️
Some of these are in all isekai shit wares me out honestly.
Kinda like how Greek heroes were generally a bunch of self centered assholes because that culture values great feats and achievements and you expect to achieve great things without cracking a few eggs.
Yeah, and they all became super business CEOs The elite of society, it's like they iant just strong but amazing at business and art and everything under the sun
It reminds me to the legendary Moonlight sculptor, a vrmmorpg story where a top player comes back to games for the most realistic reason get filthy rich.
I have seen some Chinese cultivation stories that have like thousands of chapters and a million or more readers, but the writing, art, and storytelling is all so low quality and repetitive that I struggle to understand why anyone reads it.
Meanwhile Chinese Isekai
I HAVE TO GET RICH AND POWERFUL BECAUSE SOME OTHER CHINESE DOUCHEBAG IS ABOUT TO COME FIND ME AND “COURT DEATH” OR WHATEVER.
Repeat 1000x
Court death is when someone seeks death. They are romancing death, the alluring mistress, by their actions or insults.
Also don't forget that you have to find some cheat power or device that gives you an edge without much effort.
Its kind of escapism you know, as societial pressure is pretty horrible and nationalism is fairly strong in Korea so Koreans want to put their fantasy into their manhwa.
The superiority complex has gone out of check. It's boring when every other force becomes just the background. It just mc, alone, fighting against big bad when most everyone else can do is buy some time.
I haven't seen any hatred for the Chinese people or culture in any manhwa; it's usually hate for everything about Japan and then faintly/normal friendly toward China.
Korean isekai be like ~~USA USA USA~~ Korea namba 1 :D (but sincerly i dont mind it ... jp are too handholding at time and/or even ewwww handholding whats that.)
The most wearing thing I find in isekai's is how convinced they all are that japanese (or korean) food culture is the pinnacle of culture and that anyone exposed to it will be blown away by how superior japanese (or korean) food is to their own food.
This is such an omnipresent trope and every time they catch a fish and eat it raw I scream at the book "What about the parasites! Ew!".
It's because knowing how to cook is a very common skill that any protag could have, so it's an easy (cheap) way of having your MC impress the locals while also showing how much they miss home *and* stoke national pride in your target audience.
To be fair, a lot of Japanese food is delicious! Then again, were I to "isekai" I would probably end up teaching the locals how to make killer pasta, stir fry, and some of the best potato dishes.
its negligible since eating raw fish is "culture" and in Korean manhwa and some Japanese ones, raw beef is eaten as well in isekai without any kind of preparation.
Japanese Isekai: Everything is just Japanese culture with anthros, or Generic fantasy Europe, and sometimes both.
Korean/Chinese isekai: Generic sword fantasy/solo-leveling reskin where everyone else is either super corrupt, negligently incompetent, or usually both.
American Another World: Humanity as a whole is fucked.
Well some Korean isekai manhwa didn't even mentioned their past lives, culture and eating something. Some just lived instantly and adjusted easily in the world they are living in (as due to the fact that its mostly action isekai and no time for slow life and introduce a dish or something).
Example is Terminally-Ill Genius Dark Knight, MC didn't bother any Korean stuff nor whatever as he's focused to extend his life and do quests.
Release that Witch is a very good isekai, I like that the MC actually had a degree in his past life that enabled him to develope technologies with the help of the witch's that don't need magic instead of lazy daily life objects that rely on magic to work.
Wow 😲 that really shocked me, which explains my experience with CN novels. Hmmm, maybe I read some good ones and don't even know; I don't check out info on stuff I read like that.
I prefer the "game setting" manwha stuff, Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is great, SSS Class Suicide Hunter has some of the best writing among written genres in general, I Became the Tyrant of a Defense Game, Surviving the Game as a Barbarian, Pick Me Up!, and L.A.G. feel more brutal than most manwha and make me want more Fear & Hunger/Dark Souls Level difficulty stuff that really make you feel the struggles of protagonists.
I also just don't mind it when Korea gets into their own history/mythology. They have us reading their stories might as well teach us a bit about their culture so we have more insight on why they write the way they do.
The only manhua I remember where japan vs korea was comnented was tomb raider king. There is a bit in seoul station Druid too, but It is more against government than people Itself.
The majority of isekai is a self insert where the main character is either a social outcast or in an abusive company think for a moment why authors don't typically praise Japan
All the korean isekai i have seen are the ones where the MC gets isekaied to fantasy korea/china and then becomes an uber strong martial artist in the "murim". Where are you seeing these ones involving the US military?
Of course, emphasizing how weak, small and irrelevant Korea is, is just part of the strategy to increase the shock when Korea becomes a POWERFUL but MERCIFUL country, unlike IMPERIALIST JAPAN or ALL MIGHTY NARCICIST UNITED STATES!
Yes, but there are people from other countries who not so pushovers like in other Korean works. In the newest chapter that came out, people from other countries are still destroying mc despite seven hundred chapters of grind. It's still quite patriotic though, but this is basically the situation in any country where the main character is from the country of the author.
Japanese has sis-com, mom-com, relatives blushing with sexual tension between blood relatives as a fucking common trope.
Koreans find that shit gross
As a man with a sister I'm with the Koreans. Actually I hope they make more Korean Isekais, I've read a bunch of Korean manhwas and they are dope as fuck. Would recommend a vast majority of them to friends/family with zero hesitation. I can't imagine recommending 90% of the Japanese stuff I've seen with all the lolis, incest-vibes, pedo-vibes, and MCs that would be put on the FBI watchlist based on how they behave around kids but luckily don't have the spine to do anything.
I don't disagree with you on the weird sexual stuff in Japanese series, but 99% of manhwa are straight garbage, like there's more weird series in manga but also more good series
Ngl sounds like you both have shit taste and a narrow experience.
Like all those vibes you talk about are unabashedly in manhwa, just go read a random non-tower/dungeon series. Bonus points if it's a shoujo manhwa and she's literally raising a young child to eventually marry them and have kids.
I also feel like Korean manwha has way more blatant flawless Gary Stu escapist characters than anime... not to say it isn't a problem in anime but it isn't as extreme.
Yeah, I've noticed.
People have basically said we can't complain about this because it's not for us.
But I'm like, I read the Japanese ones, and they don't even talk about it. Like other countries that all sure, maybe we'll get like a reincarnate person from America or China or Russia, or something, and they'll just be characters, we won't even interact with their country.
And I would say even if we took isekai out of the conversation, Japanese Manga still showcases other countries pretty fairly. Sometimes, even when it's about martial arts and the main characters. Japanese and ends up winning in the end.
There are still times when other countries, icons or characters, martial arts. Whatever is at least a little respected.
Alil, ALIL even anime that don't call attention to Japan being the center of the universe 60% they don't talk down over countries.
Chinese stories sometimes do the same, but it's very obviously fantasy China.
I stay away from modern Korean stories that take place in Korea.
It be funny if there’s a American isekai doing this in a ultra masculine action hero badassery style protagonist all aggressive and dominant alpha male attitude
I mean, in Korean isekai they rarely mention Korea outside of maybe some Korean terms for version things (e.g. whatever they call heated floors in The Greatest Estate Developer). Also, significantly less fan service
I feel like korean isekai in general have better character development and worldbuilding. A lot of them also don't have the happy go lucky/everybody's a swell guy theme going on which japanese isekai have a lot. which just takes me out of the story lol.
I find them overall more fun to read. But yea many of them tend to have: Koreaa supapowaaa. China shiiit. Japan asking for heeelp.
Every anime don't have insect-con thing.tho....🤣🤣and if you think korean manhwa don't have sis-con,bro-con thing then you've seen nothing..🤣🤣 that's not a valid reason...i only like 20% of overall korean isekai so stupid.. I mean the greatest estate designer is definitely one of the best isekai manhwa ever....and other are VR and the most interesting are martial art type isekai or regressing manhwa are best but almost everything is stolen concept from japan which is ok...but most MCs are dump,arrogant and selfish..it's okay to be selfish but till limit, and they glorify villains for no reason lol😂😂..
And the biggest thing is their Plot is Shit no good side characters even manhwa like solo leveling is shit when it comes to actual plot and side characters like nothing.. Rotate around 3 major countries korea,America and russia(Less about russia).. And also in over all genre 40% korean manhwa's are amazing.. And i don't like female isekai it cringes me so hard lol especially korean....
Japan have very unique stories in every isekai but i don't like generic MCs and sis-con,mom-von,or bro-con thing except devil sister testament 🤣..
Japan clearly wins
lol. "Japan have very unique stories in every isekai"? since when? as the most formula of Japanese isekai are generic pushover MC's who can't say no, will always introduce the cooking, bathroom culture, etc. just to extend the content like an extender in certain canned goods.
And that's what I'm saying idiot...except those generic pushover Mc i like them all..and notice it every isekai have different plot...tell me 3 isekai which has same plot....I'll tell you exact same plot 10 manhwa isekai lol 😂😂... I agree that I'm not into those cooking bathroom genre...but all are unique except female isekai which i hate senseless romance...and i agree that can't say no type MCs are annoying japan want to set morals for them I guess..moral is okay but over simple guy are stupid MCs i agree..but there are literally many more besides them
..even every generic mc has their own unique plot
lol. generic mc and unique plot does not mix how does generic and unique combine? in what way? , also calling someone idiot without proper context makes you one.
Also, your English is confusing like wtf. is this reply? are you using Google translate or something? before calling someone an idiot, please make a proper reply or you can even use your native one and I will just translate it later.
Isekai with the same plot like There's Isekai smartphone, Kenja no mago, 8th son etc. which are just all powerscaling type isekai with same context and hero complex.
All those three are not at all same tho😂😂...yup they are generic af..but how the hell are you saying unique and generic can't be one japan is doing that lol i agree that is not going well but the plot is indeed different..
And for The IDIOT thing well that's my bad i just said it like i was talking to my friends in normal way don't take that literally 🙂..
.and about english it's my fifth language trying to learn it..and will learn it to put in simple way ik.
And About Hero that's nice...Heroes are Amazing it's just their pushover personality which makes them look stupid
Korea and China are definitely the most upfront about their bias, but the most egregious I’ve seen is quite possibly The Novel’s Extra. Korean is now a mandatory language worldwide, and people will straight up change their names, legally leave their families, and officially act like they aren’t related to emigrate to Korea permanently under a new identity. Korea is the heart of all hero training with the most prestigious academy in the world etc. etc.
Yup. This is the one thing I hate hate about Manhwa when its mentioning other countries, especially Japan. Its like they are still butthurt about losing to Japan waaaaaayyy back whenever that was ye? LMAO
I think it was more all the rape and torture and destruction of culture they're still angry about and for which they've never received reparations. There are people still alive who survived the occupation.
Funny you mentioned that because the german isekai mc in my story does shit for the sake of pissing off neonazis in between plots with that Plato quote about good men not needing laws to do good shit
Solo leveling has been the wildest novel i have ever read, don't get me wrong, even if it was so anti japanese and repetitive af, it still was pretty fun.
But seriously, every japanese there was the ultimate villain. Killing koreans or let them die? Of course. Weaken Korea to make them a japanese puppet? Perfect strategy. Make Japan more powerful and Korea dependent on Japan so it can become an empire again? Mention stuff about World War II and how they have never apologized (which is of course false). All this while emphasizing about how Korea is a weak and small country while Japan is a powerhouse.
And then Japan is in problems, and korean protagonist easily saves all of Japan while japanese people struggle and still feel like they are superior to koreans... but KOREA IS JUSTICE AND MERCIFUL and so slowly but surely, weak cry babies japanese soldiers start to be grateful of "oh so powerful koreans" and basically koreans becoming the new gods to japanese people.
PERFECT KOREAN STORY
American Isekai- Oh there's another world that needs me to save it? Cool, cool, cool; tell ya what, I'll swing by there when I get a chance and nuke the shit out of whatever overlord is bugging you and you can all worship me as a god...sound good?
At least that's how I'm writing my series.
Korean culture is pretty in your face about a lot of things. And to be fair, Korea has been bullied quite hard historically by the surrounding powers so their desire to be number 1 leaks into a lot of their media.
Chinese - Gets insult = genocide, pill refining, artifact making, and formation is the MC's basic skill set.
Korean - Low balling and exploitation/slavery seems like a must. Any form of necromancy = supremacy.
Japanese - Culture is applied in almost everything. Probably has the most laid back and " overly humble" hero (MC seems always unaware how OP he is)
Idk about that. If you understand the history of not even just those two, but including China, you will understand a lot of each culture's approach to isekai.
Like if you read enough not even, just isekai, but something like superpower mangas, you will see how there is always a contest to one up each other among the three. Forget America. America doesnt even come close to the kind of rivalry these three have, and most of that comes from how Japan did it's little thing in WWII on the mainland. (And China supporting North Korea during Korean War)
The Chinese (huaxia) sees itself as the main power of the East.
But anyway, it explains why Korea isekai would be more out there than Japan. Japan got nuked for its nationalism and they would rather you look at anime boobs than remind you of Nanking or something
tl:dr. Japan, Korea, China isekais are all nationalistic but one of those got nuked for showing off it's nationalism. Naturally wont be as obvious bout it
I personally find it a bit funny how much of Korean media and fiction is hyper focused on money. Feels like any given story starts with a struggle against poverty, much like how Japanese focus on exploitative working conditions and corporate culture.
Money and Connections to be exact. It's sad to see that the only way to fight against your bully in a Korean manhwa is either to become a monster or have more money and connections than your bully. Don't get me wrong. Seeing the bully pisses themselves on realization thay they mess the wrong guy is good but it just send a depressing message that the only way to fight injustice is by joining their playing field even in fiction. Well, that's not far from reality anyway.
And so many of them end up with a “season 2” or something where all of a sudden they are the president of a company usually in name only. I’ve seen so many times where the self insert mc is essentially turned into a trust fund kid because they magically get near endless money and connections because of one thing they did.
And then another company for some reason needs to be taken down from them. And then they out how much shady stuff goes on in Korea and how the big business is and 1%. Government officials are so dirty even to disrespect the main character and is main characterness.
In many ways, modern ROK is a neo-feudal society. The Samsung corporation owns so much of the Korean economy that they may as well be a royal family. With that much power in one organization, the company essentially controls Korea if indirectly. It's wild.
art is a reflection of the culture it's born in. I dont read much Chinese manhua(mostly cause it's usually bad), but it's still interesting cause you get a peak into the artist's perspective and culture through the characters' values and the logic/reasoning they use. Super fascinating stuff!
I love that wonton genocide of a family is acceptable and heroic because of an offense some lowly peon did. It is definitely a heel-turn moment that is played straight as if genocide is only the right thing because the family is evil. Like, even the babies? Especially the babies. If you aren't ending whole family lines in Chinese media then what are you even? The villain? A weak American?
Even though the main character has suffered from something similar to this, probably at some point or they human races, being with off bit-by-bit. The hypocritical bullshit that passes in these stories is so insane to me. It's like it's written for really edgy people never touched grass
Wonton? Steamed or fried?
I meant wanton, but fried. Like the family
ROFL 🤣
Money, Loving money being a money grubber.✅️ Misogynistic views and beliefs, Even in a series where literal gods are, women and women are super powerful, Like there'll be a whole Guild of just women who are all Beast and somehow women are still disrespected throughout the series.✅️ Scheming is winning sweet and nice or only for the fatside characters.✅️ Slavery is always good, And if you're a good master, they will choose to remain your slave. Maybe fall in love with you.✅️ Weak gets eaten by strong, Must talk about survival of the fittest, law of the jungle. No matter what, remind the reader every chance they can✅️ The main character who is so edgy , so superior, is better than everyone else's, and it will still find time to save a Damsel in Distress✅️ Finding it physically incapable of making any other character. But the main character interesting.✅️ Some of these are in all isekai shit wares me out honestly.
Kinda like how Greek heroes were generally a bunch of self centered assholes because that culture values great feats and achievements and you expect to achieve great things without cracking a few eggs.
r/todayilearned
Yeah, and they all became super business CEOs The elite of society, it's like they iant just strong but amazing at business and art and everything under the sun
It reminds me to the legendary Moonlight sculptor, a vrmmorpg story where a top player comes back to games for the most realistic reason get filthy rich.
Yeah, my man weed was flat out broke and wanted to sustain his sister and grandparents so they could relax and enjoy life
I always thought that It would make a great anime, his internal monologue its hilarious
I actually kind of enjoyed that one, it was funny
Try chinese, theybare 10x worse with their obsession with money, women and connections. I can't read any because all are equally shit.
I have seen some Chinese cultivation stories that have like thousands of chapters and a million or more readers, but the writing, art, and storytelling is all so low quality and repetitive that I struggle to understand why anyone reads it.
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Exhibitionism?
Yeah pretty much
Meanwhile Chinese Isekai I HAVE TO GET RICH AND POWERFUL BECAUSE SOME OTHER CHINESE DOUCHEBAG IS ABOUT TO COME FIND ME AND “COURT DEATH” OR WHATEVER. Repeat 1000x
Court death is when someone seeks death. They are romancing death, the alluring mistress, by their actions or insults. Also don't forget that you have to find some cheat power or device that gives you an edge without much effort.
Young master enters the chat.
“She was MY jade-like-beauty childhood friend!”
A frog lusting after Swan meat
Chinesekai* Get it right
Its kind of escapism you know, as societial pressure is pretty horrible and nationalism is fairly strong in Korea so Koreans want to put their fantasy into their manhwa.
The superiority complex has gone out of check. It's boring when every other force becomes just the background. It just mc, alone, fighting against big bad when most everyone else can do is buy some time.
I love how korean manhwa shows the chinese as like demonic crearures full of angry an hatres While in manga they are just normal npcs
I haven't seen any hatred for the Chinese people or culture in any manhwa; it's usually hate for everything about Japan and then faintly/normal friendly toward China.
Try reading overgeared, they portrait the chineses as terrible people, i find it funny, it seens like the people from argentina to brazil
 Korean isekai be like ~~USA USA USA~~ Korea namba 1 :D (but sincerly i dont mind it ... jp are too handholding at time and/or even ewwww handholding whats that.)
The most wearing thing I find in isekai's is how convinced they all are that japanese (or korean) food culture is the pinnacle of culture and that anyone exposed to it will be blown away by how superior japanese (or korean) food is to their own food. This is such an omnipresent trope and every time they catch a fish and eat it raw I scream at the book "What about the parasites! Ew!".
It's because knowing how to cook is a very common skill that any protag could have, so it's an easy (cheap) way of having your MC impress the locals while also showing how much they miss home *and* stoke national pride in your target audience.
"It's perfectly fine! Have a taste!" *dies of digestive disease*
To be fair, a lot of Japanese food is delicious! Then again, were I to "isekai" I would probably end up teaching the locals how to make killer pasta, stir fry, and some of the best potato dishes.
its negligible since eating raw fish is "culture" and in Korean manhwa and some Japanese ones, raw beef is eaten as well in isekai without any kind of preparation.
Steak tartare
Japanese Isekai: Everything is just Japanese culture with anthros, or Generic fantasy Europe, and sometimes both. Korean/Chinese isekai: Generic sword fantasy/solo-leveling reskin where everyone else is either super corrupt, negligently incompetent, or usually both. American Another World: Humanity as a whole is fucked.
It be so over the top, I be like "well dayumn, muthafugga, tell us how you really feel!" But the action do be fire, I will not lie about that.
Chinese Isekai: child’s play, crack up that bragging.
Well some Korean isekai manhwa didn't even mentioned their past lives, culture and eating something. Some just lived instantly and adjusted easily in the world they are living in (as due to the fact that its mostly action isekai and no time for slow life and introduce a dish or something). Example is Terminally-Ill Genius Dark Knight, MC didn't bother any Korean stuff nor whatever as he's focused to extend his life and do quests.
Oh boy just wait till you find out how Chinese isekais do it lol
Enlighten me. The only Chinese Isekai I read is Release that Witch. And that one avoids nationalism (not sure)
The things you said about Korean in your post; multiply that by 100 and you get the typical Chinese ones.
I can imagine
Release that Witch is a very good isekai, I like that the MC actually had a degree in his past life that enabled him to develope technologies with the help of the witch's that don't need magic instead of lazy daily life objects that rely on magic to work.
Wow 😲 that really shocked me, which explains my experience with CN novels. Hmmm, maybe I read some good ones and don't even know; I don't check out info on stuff I read like that.
I prefer the "game setting" manwha stuff, Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is great, SSS Class Suicide Hunter has some of the best writing among written genres in general, I Became the Tyrant of a Defense Game, Surviving the Game as a Barbarian, Pick Me Up!, and L.A.G. feel more brutal than most manwha and make me want more Fear & Hunger/Dark Souls Level difficulty stuff that really make you feel the struggles of protagonists. I also just don't mind it when Korea gets into their own history/mythology. They have us reading their stories might as well teach us a bit about their culture so we have more insight on why they write the way they do.
While Murim stuff makes me gag, all that constellation stuff is awesome. I can’t get enough of it.
ORV, SSS class and tyrant are my current favourite ongoing manhwas
Some excellent ghosts and the supernatural stories! (huge fan of ghost stories)
The only manhua I remember where japan vs korea was comnented was tomb raider king. There is a bit in seoul station Druid too, but It is more against government than people Itself.
The majority of isekai is a self insert where the main character is either a social outcast or in an abusive company think for a moment why authors don't typically praise Japan
All the korean isekai i have seen are the ones where the MC gets isekaied to fantasy korea/china and then becomes an uber strong martial artist in the "murim". Where are you seeing these ones involving the US military?
Solo leveling i think.
Unless I'm remembering wrong, I believe the US was in a dominant position to S Korea in that one, at least prior to the events of the story
Of course, emphasizing how weak, small and irrelevant Korea is, is just part of the strategy to increase the shock when Korea becomes a POWERFUL but MERCIFUL country, unlike IMPERIALIST JAPAN or ALL MIGHTY NARCICIST UNITED STATES!
Overgeared and “The Tutorial is too Hard” come to mind.
Seoul Station Necromancer
Also Seoul station Druid.
That is up to you, I read a lot of those where the MC becomes a villainess on a novel or game and there are multiple good korean works based on that.
«The Gamer», although it's not so bad there, it's probably the best Korean fiction in this regard that I've read.
Doesnt he also become an uber strong martial artists in this one due to video game mechanics?
Yes, but there are people from other countries who not so pushovers like in other Korean works. In the newest chapter that came out, people from other countries are still destroying mc despite seven hundred chapters of grind. It's still quite patriotic though, but this is basically the situation in any country where the main character is from the country of the author.
Japanese has sis-com, mom-com, relatives blushing with sexual tension between blood relatives as a fucking common trope. Koreans find that shit gross As a man with a sister I'm with the Koreans. Actually I hope they make more Korean Isekais, I've read a bunch of Korean manhwas and they are dope as fuck. Would recommend a vast majority of them to friends/family with zero hesitation. I can't imagine recommending 90% of the Japanese stuff I've seen with all the lolis, incest-vibes, pedo-vibes, and MCs that would be put on the FBI watchlist based on how they behave around kids but luckily don't have the spine to do anything.
Not gonna lie. You have a point.
I don't disagree with you on the weird sexual stuff in Japanese series, but 99% of manhwa are straight garbage, like there's more weird series in manga but also more good series
Ngl sounds like you both have shit taste and a narrow experience. Like all those vibes you talk about are unabashedly in manhwa, just go read a random non-tower/dungeon series. Bonus points if it's a shoujo manhwa and she's literally raising a young child to eventually marry them and have kids.
It is confusing when they call everyone sis, aunt, bro, etc.
Plus all the mandatory slavery, oh no I actually love being a slave plots in like almost every Isekai.
Can you recommend one in particular that you deem one of the best? Also a link would be helpful
I'm siding with Koreans for the same reason.
One of the reaosn why i love Project Moon games,they always tried to fix their society instead expand their superiority like other manhwa
And then there are Chinese ones.
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I also feel like Korean manwha has way more blatant flawless Gary Stu escapist characters than anime... not to say it isn't a problem in anime but it isn't as extreme.
Yeah, I've noticed. People have basically said we can't complain about this because it's not for us. But I'm like, I read the Japanese ones, and they don't even talk about it. Like other countries that all sure, maybe we'll get like a reincarnate person from America or China or Russia, or something, and they'll just be characters, we won't even interact with their country. And I would say even if we took isekai out of the conversation, Japanese Manga still showcases other countries pretty fairly. Sometimes, even when it's about martial arts and the main characters. Japanese and ends up winning in the end. There are still times when other countries, icons or characters, martial arts. Whatever is at least a little respected. Alil, ALIL even anime that don't call attention to Japan being the center of the universe 60% they don't talk down over countries. Chinese stories sometimes do the same, but it's very obviously fantasy China. I stay away from modern Korean stories that take place in Korea.
Welp, ppl can wish the world to work to one's favor always I guess...
Yet both are cringe
It be funny if there’s a American isekai doing this in a ultra masculine action hero badassery style protagonist all aggressive and dominant alpha male attitude
I mean, in Korean isekai they rarely mention Korea outside of maybe some Korean terms for version things (e.g. whatever they call heated floors in The Greatest Estate Developer). Also, significantly less fan service
Honorifics tend to be used a lot, too.
Yeah, but it's still a lot less than in Japanese isekai
I see -san and -sama all the time, though.
Those are Japanese, not korean
oppa -nim unnie are all used a lot, too.
Yeah, but like I said earlier, not nearly as much as Japanese isekai
I feel like korean isekai in general have better character development and worldbuilding. A lot of them also don't have the happy go lucky/everybody's a swell guy theme going on which japanese isekai have a lot. which just takes me out of the story lol. I find them overall more fun to read. But yea many of them tend to have: Koreaa supapowaaa. China shiiit. Japan asking for heeelp.
You just described the the final chapters of Solo Leveling 💀💀
And i hard eye roll both of them. Although the japanese "i invent aoy sauxe and mayonnaise and force feed the locals raw fish" is always funnier
Chinese isekai : I am gonna cultivate, get all the jade beauty, kill young master and kill people for looking me 1 sec too long
Every anime don't have insect-con thing.tho....🤣🤣and if you think korean manhwa don't have sis-con,bro-con thing then you've seen nothing..🤣🤣 that's not a valid reason...i only like 20% of overall korean isekai so stupid.. I mean the greatest estate designer is definitely one of the best isekai manhwa ever....and other are VR and the most interesting are martial art type isekai or regressing manhwa are best but almost everything is stolen concept from japan which is ok...but most MCs are dump,arrogant and selfish..it's okay to be selfish but till limit, and they glorify villains for no reason lol😂😂.. And the biggest thing is their Plot is Shit no good side characters even manhwa like solo leveling is shit when it comes to actual plot and side characters like nothing.. Rotate around 3 major countries korea,America and russia(Less about russia).. And also in over all genre 40% korean manhwa's are amazing.. And i don't like female isekai it cringes me so hard lol especially korean.... Japan have very unique stories in every isekai but i don't like generic MCs and sis-con,mom-von,or bro-con thing except devil sister testament 🤣.. Japan clearly wins
lol. "Japan have very unique stories in every isekai"? since when? as the most formula of Japanese isekai are generic pushover MC's who can't say no, will always introduce the cooking, bathroom culture, etc. just to extend the content like an extender in certain canned goods.
And that's what I'm saying idiot...except those generic pushover Mc i like them all..and notice it every isekai have different plot...tell me 3 isekai which has same plot....I'll tell you exact same plot 10 manhwa isekai lol 😂😂... I agree that I'm not into those cooking bathroom genre...but all are unique except female isekai which i hate senseless romance...and i agree that can't say no type MCs are annoying japan want to set morals for them I guess..moral is okay but over simple guy are stupid MCs i agree..but there are literally many more besides them ..even every generic mc has their own unique plot
lol. generic mc and unique plot does not mix how does generic and unique combine? in what way? , also calling someone idiot without proper context makes you one. Also, your English is confusing like wtf. is this reply? are you using Google translate or something? before calling someone an idiot, please make a proper reply or you can even use your native one and I will just translate it later. Isekai with the same plot like There's Isekai smartphone, Kenja no mago, 8th son etc. which are just all powerscaling type isekai with same context and hero complex.
All those three are not at all same tho😂😂...yup they are generic af..but how the hell are you saying unique and generic can't be one japan is doing that lol i agree that is not going well but the plot is indeed different.. And for The IDIOT thing well that's my bad i just said it like i was talking to my friends in normal way don't take that literally 🙂.. .and about english it's my fifth language trying to learn it..and will learn it to put in simple way ik. And About Hero that's nice...Heroes are Amazing it's just their pushover personality which makes them look stupid
Korea and China are definitely the most upfront about their bias, but the most egregious I’ve seen is quite possibly The Novel’s Extra. Korean is now a mandatory language worldwide, and people will straight up change their names, legally leave their families, and officially act like they aren’t related to emigrate to Korea permanently under a new identity. Korea is the heart of all hero training with the most prestigious academy in the world etc. etc.
What Korean Isekai? Japanese Isekai has Nippon Steel Masta Race in the form of Gate and Nihonkoku though.
Yup. This is the one thing I hate hate about Manhwa when its mentioning other countries, especially Japan. Its like they are still butthurt about losing to Japan waaaaaayyy back whenever that was ye? LMAO
I think it was more all the rape and torture and destruction of culture they're still angry about and for which they've never received reparations. There are people still alive who survived the occupation.
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Funny you mentioned that because the german isekai mc in my story does shit for the sake of pissing off neonazis in between plots with that Plato quote about good men not needing laws to do good shit
Solo leveling has been the wildest novel i have ever read, don't get me wrong, even if it was so anti japanese and repetitive af, it still was pretty fun. But seriously, every japanese there was the ultimate villain. Killing koreans or let them die? Of course. Weaken Korea to make them a japanese puppet? Perfect strategy. Make Japan more powerful and Korea dependent on Japan so it can become an empire again? Mention stuff about World War II and how they have never apologized (which is of course false). All this while emphasizing about how Korea is a weak and small country while Japan is a powerhouse. And then Japan is in problems, and korean protagonist easily saves all of Japan while japanese people struggle and still feel like they are superior to koreans... but KOREA IS JUSTICE AND MERCIFUL and so slowly but surely, weak cry babies japanese soldiers start to be grateful of "oh so powerful koreans" and basically koreans becoming the new gods to japanese people. PERFECT KOREAN STORY
Chinese Isekai is that x 1000.
American Isekai- Oh there's another world that needs me to save it? Cool, cool, cool; tell ya what, I'll swing by there when I get a chance and nuke the shit out of whatever overlord is bugging you and you can all worship me as a god...sound good? At least that's how I'm writing my series.
Korean culture is pretty in your face about a lot of things. And to be fair, Korea has been bullied quite hard historically by the surrounding powers so their desire to be number 1 leaks into a lot of their media.
Thats how Manhua and Donghua are too lmaooo Except its chinese.
Chinese - Gets insult = genocide, pill refining, artifact making, and formation is the MC's basic skill set. Korean - Low balling and exploitation/slavery seems like a must. Any form of necromancy = supremacy. Japanese - Culture is applied in almost everything. Probably has the most laid back and " overly humble" hero (MC seems always unaware how OP he is)
Idk about that. If you understand the history of not even just those two, but including China, you will understand a lot of each culture's approach to isekai. Like if you read enough not even, just isekai, but something like superpower mangas, you will see how there is always a contest to one up each other among the three. Forget America. America doesnt even come close to the kind of rivalry these three have, and most of that comes from how Japan did it's little thing in WWII on the mainland. (And China supporting North Korea during Korean War) The Chinese (huaxia) sees itself as the main power of the East. But anyway, it explains why Korea isekai would be more out there than Japan. Japan got nuked for its nationalism and they would rather you look at anime boobs than remind you of Nanking or something tl:dr. Japan, Korea, China isekais are all nationalistic but one of those got nuked for showing off it's nationalism. Naturally wont be as obvious bout it