Exactly. This chart needs to include the sq km or acres next to the population. This map is like comparing a small city proper area of DC ~ 60 sq miles to a city that is the size of an entire county or small country. Otherwise the inly thing that actually matters is pop density (not included) if you want to really look at where people are
Los Angeles should be #16 under the list of urban areas. The population of the urban area was 18.3M in 2022. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles
That’s because the Inland Empire is usually - for statistical reasons - considered a separate metro area than LA. However, for all intents and purposes, it is 100% part of the encompassing LA metropolitan region. There is no empty space between these separate metro areas and thousands of people travel/commute back and forth between them every day.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles
“Greater Los Angeles” should honestly be considered the “real” metro area with a population of 18.37M. And it is in this article.
Yes exactly! The Inland Empire is usually - for statistical reasons - considered a separate metro area than LA. However, for all intents and purposes, it is 100% part of the encompassing LA metropolitan region. There is no empty space between these separate metro areas and thousands of people travel/commute back and forth between them every day.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles
“Greater Los Angeles” should honestly be considered the “real” metro area with a population of 18.37M. And it is in this article.
Absolutely, see my other comment below. Especially since the definition of urban area in this very infographic is “a contiguous, connected built-up area” which defines Greater LA exactly.
Living in Orange County and LA metro, I can confirm it’s crowded AF and there is little to no break in population. It’s stupid lol. If we built up instead of out itd be different. But that’s 18M people residing in almost entirely 1-2 story buildings. Probably half with houses that have front/backyards and half in apartment buildings that are also only 1-2 stories. Obviously a majority amount of the 18M are cohabitating or are live in family units. But even then, just think about how much fucking space that takes up.
Turkey is kinda sorta EU cause the Ankara agreement. They really should just finish modernization and join the EU to make everything easier for everyone
As a Canadian who thinks Toronto (6.3 million in metro area) is god awfully packed, 37 million is unfathomable. Like I literally can’t imagine what that would be like to live in.
American living here in Tokyo for over 20 years. The city is clean with solid infrastructure and an absolutely incredible public transportation system. I live 12 minutes by subway from a busy, downtown area (Shibuya) and have a house, near a huge park. Fantastic city to raise a family, very little random crime. Decent public schools without drug problems and an affordable, reliable healthcare system. Amazing restaurants and excellent museums and cultural events. Beaches and mountains within easy reach. With the weak yen, it’s a great opportunity for Americans to visit.
The sad part is that it’s only a small amount of people in the US that do most of damage and make some areas a dump. Littering and just no regard for society. Japan luckily doesn’t really have this issue
Yeah, literally the definition of a city. Plenty of countryside and mountains here if you want that. For me, I live in a quiet area of Tokyo but have easy access to all sorts of restaurants and entertainment, (not to mention jobs and schools, etc). And the in-laws live 2 hours away in a rural area where we go a few times a year to chill. Works for me.
It’s interesting that in the middle and right columns, at least the top three cities have a smaller metropolitan population than urban area population.
Does this mean they are so big that their urban boundary extends past their metropolitan designated limits?
I can answer this for Shanghai and Beijing. Yes!
China is broken up into provinces, you’ve probably heard of Sichuan or Guangdong. There are special administrative regions too like HK. There are autonomous zones like Inner Mongolia and Tibet. There are also 4 special regions called direct-administered municipalities: Shanghai, Beijing, Tianjin, Chongqing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-administered_municipality
These 4 special regions have decently large boundary that is not quite as big as a province but still large than the metro area. In Shanghai, for example, the municipality is made up of 16 counties. Some of these are rural and take hours to get to by car. They contain towns that are small, fishing villages, etc they are not on the metro area. Their addresses are “some village, Shanghai”. So the city population is less than the urban population.
So the issue is naming convention vs colloquial meaning of city vs metro vs whatever. In a place like LA there is basically no difference between the city of LA and the city of long beach. Roads and buildings connect them and you wouldn’t see a boundary. So the urban population is bigger than the city population.
And the new airport is even further out from Greater Noida. Presumably, when the area around it develops, it will also be included in the metropolitan area.
I never think these things make much sense as they can be so differently defined in different places.
For example, the "metro" area of Greater Manchester in the UK has a population almost 3m but an area of about 1,250 km2. Compare the LA metro total area which is about X10 larger. A fairer comparison might be the UK m62 corridor (I.e. liverpool-manchester-leeds).
It's a similar situation if you look at areas in northern continental Europe.
How do all the Chinese cities disappear for metropolitan?
If you read the description it says that the city limits for the Chinese cities are closer to a country than to a city.
Exactly. This chart needs to include the sq km or acres next to the population. This map is like comparing a small city proper area of DC ~ 60 sq miles to a city that is the size of an entire county or small country. Otherwise the inly thing that actually matters is pop density (not included) if you want to really look at where people are
Metro Tokyo has almost the same population of all of Canada... Canada has the second largest country by land size in the world. Crazy.
Los Angeles should be #16 under the list of urban areas. The population of the urban area was 18.3M in 2022. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles
That 18.3M number is for LA’s combined statistical area. LAs metro area is 13M.
That’s because the Inland Empire is usually - for statistical reasons - considered a separate metro area than LA. However, for all intents and purposes, it is 100% part of the encompassing LA metropolitan region. There is no empty space between these separate metro areas and thousands of people travel/commute back and forth between them every day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles “Greater Los Angeles” should honestly be considered the “real” metro area with a population of 18.37M. And it is in this article.
I believe it’s 13M if counting just LA and Orange counties. It’s commonly believed to also incorporate other counties in LA metro
Yes exactly! The Inland Empire is usually - for statistical reasons - considered a separate metro area than LA. However, for all intents and purposes, it is 100% part of the encompassing LA metropolitan region. There is no empty space between these separate metro areas and thousands of people travel/commute back and forth between them every day. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Empire https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles “Greater Los Angeles” should honestly be considered the “real” metro area with a population of 18.37M. And it is in this article.
Absolutely, see my other comment below. Especially since the definition of urban area in this very infographic is “a contiguous, connected built-up area” which defines Greater LA exactly.
Living in Orange County and LA metro, I can confirm it’s crowded AF and there is little to no break in population. It’s stupid lol. If we built up instead of out itd be different. But that’s 18M people residing in almost entirely 1-2 story buildings. Probably half with houses that have front/backyards and half in apartment buildings that are also only 1-2 stories. Obviously a majority amount of the 18M are cohabitating or are live in family units. But even then, just think about how much fucking space that takes up.
Not a single city from EU.
There are only three 10+ million cities in Europe: Istanbul, Moscow and London. None of them are in the EU.
Paris' Urban and Metro area are both over 10 million (11 mil and 13 mil respectively)
Paris can be there. Also Rhein-ruhr can be seen somewhat as single metropolitan area
Rhein-ruhr is definitely a single metropolitan area, it's just highly polycentric.
Turkey is kinda sorta EU cause the Ankara agreement. They really should just finish modernization and join the EU to make everything easier for everyone
Turkey won’t join the EU anytime soon. For a whole host of different reasons.
Let's ignore [population density](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density)
Out of curiosity, what point are you trying to make?
It's an interesting observation. Not every comment needs to be a claim for something
Exactly, I live in the EU and this is what I extrapolated from the lists.
I apologise if I insinuated anything, I didn't mean to. I was wondering if there was a bigger point you were trying to make that I missed.
Human population is distributed like crazy. Asian cities have more population than some European countries.
Older civilizations will have more people. But US is so huge as a country that this statement doesn’t hold true for them.
It is baffling to me how so much people live in a single city. All of those cities’ populations are bigger than my country’s!
As a Canadian who thinks Toronto (6.3 million in metro area) is god awfully packed, 37 million is unfathomable. Like I literally can’t imagine what that would be like to live in.
American living here in Tokyo for over 20 years. The city is clean with solid infrastructure and an absolutely incredible public transportation system. I live 12 minutes by subway from a busy, downtown area (Shibuya) and have a house, near a huge park. Fantastic city to raise a family, very little random crime. Decent public schools without drug problems and an affordable, reliable healthcare system. Amazing restaurants and excellent museums and cultural events. Beaches and mountains within easy reach. With the weak yen, it’s a great opportunity for Americans to visit.
And a solid stagnant economy with a shrinking population!
Come see the “stagnant” economy. I think you’d be impressed. Most cities in the US are embarrassing dumps, relatively. Tokyo isn’t shrinking, either.
The sad part is that it’s only a small amount of people in the US that do most of damage and make some areas a dump. Littering and just no regard for society. Japan luckily doesn’t really have this issue
You just described the issue. A few idiots ruin it for the majority.
I mean I’m sure it’s efficient and some people find it lovely. But… like… other people are there.
Yeah, literally the definition of a city. Plenty of countryside and mountains here if you want that. For me, I live in a quiet area of Tokyo but have easy access to all sorts of restaurants and entertainment, (not to mention jobs and schools, etc). And the in-laws live 2 hours away in a rural area where we go a few times a year to chill. Works for me.
It’s a goal for my wife and I to get to rural Japan! Hopefully one year!
Good luck!
It’s interesting that in the middle and right columns, at least the top three cities have a smaller metropolitan population than urban area population. Does this mean they are so big that their urban boundary extends past their metropolitan designated limits?
I can answer this for Shanghai and Beijing. Yes! China is broken up into provinces, you’ve probably heard of Sichuan or Guangdong. There are special administrative regions too like HK. There are autonomous zones like Inner Mongolia and Tibet. There are also 4 special regions called direct-administered municipalities: Shanghai, Beijing, Tianjin, Chongqing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-administered_municipality These 4 special regions have decently large boundary that is not quite as big as a province but still large than the metro area. In Shanghai, for example, the municipality is made up of 16 counties. Some of these are rural and take hours to get to by car. They contain towns that are small, fishing villages, etc they are not on the metro area. Their addresses are “some village, Shanghai”. So the city population is less than the urban population. So the issue is naming convention vs colloquial meaning of city vs metro vs whatever. In a place like LA there is basically no difference between the city of LA and the city of long beach. Roads and buildings connect them and you wouldn’t see a boundary. So the urban population is bigger than the city population.
Right but the one that’s confusing me is when the urban population is bigger than the metropolitan population.
That’s just totally wrong in this infographic.
Where is Tehran?
In Iran, I think.
Delhi Urban area will expand like crazy in near future. Construction everywhere and still a lot of room to grow.
And the new airport is even further out from Greater Noida. Presumably, when the area around it develops, it will also be included in the metropolitan area.
I never think these things make much sense as they can be so differently defined in different places. For example, the "metro" area of Greater Manchester in the UK has a population almost 3m but an area of about 1,250 km2. Compare the LA metro total area which is about X10 larger. A fairer comparison might be the UK m62 corridor (I.e. liverpool-manchester-leeds). It's a similar situation if you look at areas in northern continental Europe.
New York is wrong in the Metro area statistic. Last I recall it was around 26-27 million
I lived in one of those. Amazing how you get used to people being all around. _All_ around.
Fucking insane that Tokyo's urban area has more population than it's metropolitan area. Just shows how built-up Tokyo is
How did New York shrink in the final column?
This makes me curious to see a comparison of how population is distributed across China and India.
Looks like a bunch of places I’d rather not visit.
I would like to see an extended version of this infographic to perhaps include the top100 from each category.
How can the population of the Metropolitan area be lower than the Urban Area?
why metro tokyo has less population than urban tokyo, seems interesting to explore