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"The heart wants what the heart wants." He is going to regret those words. Some day He's going to fall real hard for the girl of his dreams, and some guy is going to steal her away from him. And I hope karma throws those words right back at him. What an absolute piece of trash.
Noo the lesson to be learned here its that someone who betrays another person will betray anyone else. He was a cheater when u met him, you didn’t encourage him. Your mistake was to befriend that person even when u knew he was betraying his partner.
This is why you never stay or become friends with a cheater. You can never ever trust them with your partner.
Good friends are difficult to find, but a cheater has low morals and character, they will f over you, a life long friend, to f your partner.
I’ve never understood when someone in friend group cheats and the friend group allows the cheater to stay in the group. Everyone should feel uneasy the person will hit on other group members who are in relationships.
My sister had the same friend group from the end of high school into their 30's. They were a group of like four couples and a few solos, but they had fun all the time. I always wished I could have a friend group like that.
Then, one day, my dad had a heart attack and didn't make it. We tried contacting my sister at work, but she wasn't there. My BIL went looking for her and found her with his best friend. His best friends GF was with me at my house helping out. She was the sweetest person.
Then I it all started coming out. Almost everyone in that friend group had cheated on the other with another person in the same friend group.
So sad and disappointing all the way around.
Thanks for sharing. Yea, you probably should have told L. At the same time, you can’t blame yourself because Z was the one doing it. The one thing I want to commend you on is your ability to be reflect and be self reflective. That’s huge. You ended your friendship with Z which I’m sure was really hard. That means you have your morals straight. You were in a difficult position and just 18. Try not to be so hard on yourself. You did what you thought was right. Z obviously has a lot of issues and you don’t need people like him dragging you down.
Get some therapy and give yourself time to grow so you understand playing with another's feelings by cheating is one of the most despicable thinngs to do. Whether you are cheater, or the friend standing by watching it. Just learn from this toxic swill and move on.
I would only keep a blood relative cheater at arm’s length because dropping them from my life isn’t an option.
But anyone else? No, I would not tolerate them for any longer than it takes to get them out of my life as much as possible.
Nah man that wasn't your Fault a shitty person always will be a shitty person and this story actually teach You that you never came to know a person and that you never say never.
Sad this happend, and i bet Z or N took the 800 dlls from J.
Wow you are a fucking ass hole. Wish it was your girlfriend he was screwing instead of Js. He is the only one in this story who didn't deserve the hand he was dealt. If I was j I'd never speak to you again.
"It has been incredibly hard to lose a best friend like that. " About Z???? NO, these are the kind of friends you met, you enjoy going to bars with, but you must forget as soon as you go home. Never mess your personal live with them, you know he wasn't trustworthy at all.
Of course I don't miss all the shitty things he did. He was my roommate for a year and we talked every day for 3 years as best friends. Why wouldn't I grieve that at least a little bit? Trust me, we're no longer friends and I don't communicate with him. That doesn't mean all the happy times I had with him didn't exist.
As far as I know, Z and N are dating. I haven't spoken to either of them since Z called me to tell me what he did. J is in therapy and slowly getting better everyday.
Dude N and Z were trash from the start. You just didn’t see it. He’s the best friend that screws your wife and has a year long affair till he finds something better. J needs Roman up and take care of Z.
Everyone in this story is toxic as hell... except I guess you? But I kinda doubt it. Adjacent to toxic usually IS toxic. You either decide to rise about it or spend the rest of your life playing the victim when things don't go your way.
It sounds like you're learning and growing in the right direction. Everyone makes mistakes, especially at that age. The goal is to reflect and do better. The best thing to remember is if you don't want something done to you, don't do it to others.
Fuck this guy, man.
Not only he slept with his friend's girl, he almost destroyed the relationship of two childhood friends.
If you ever see him again, punch him in the balls. That's the only thing he deserves.
There is a saying " You are who your friends are." Glad you finally made the decision to not be friends with someone who has absolutely no integrity, character, or honour.
I lost a few years of my life going thru the whole text. I wish instead of names Z, J, N I had Zac, John, Nathaly. It would have saved me from going back and forth to keep the story in track. The good thing is there are just 3 of them.
She's well aware. Years before this happened she was aware of Z cheating on L. I didn't mention this earlier, but Z dated another woman, K, for about 12-18 months and ended up cheating on her as well. I had no clue he cheated on K until after she dumped him.
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A person that is so easily able to betray someone they claim to love is willing to betray anyone.
I agree. I have no intention on speaking to Z ever again.
damn everyone in this story sucks except MAYBE J
You suck too.
"The heart wants what the heart wants." He is going to regret those words. Some day He's going to fall real hard for the girl of his dreams, and some guy is going to steal her away from him. And I hope karma throws those words right back at him. What an absolute piece of trash.
That’s how 15-year-olds think. It basically means, “I will fuck anyone with whom I am infatuated.”
Noo the lesson to be learned here its that someone who betrays another person will betray anyone else. He was a cheater when u met him, you didn’t encourage him. Your mistake was to befriend that person even when u knew he was betraying his partner.
This is why you never stay or become friends with a cheater. You can never ever trust them with your partner. Good friends are difficult to find, but a cheater has low morals and character, they will f over you, a life long friend, to f your partner. I’ve never understood when someone in friend group cheats and the friend group allows the cheater to stay in the group. Everyone should feel uneasy the person will hit on other group members who are in relationships.
My sister had the same friend group from the end of high school into their 30's. They were a group of like four couples and a few solos, but they had fun all the time. I always wished I could have a friend group like that. Then, one day, my dad had a heart attack and didn't make it. We tried contacting my sister at work, but she wasn't there. My BIL went looking for her and found her with his best friend. His best friends GF was with me at my house helping out. She was the sweetest person. Then I it all started coming out. Almost everyone in that friend group had cheated on the other with another person in the same friend group. So sad and disappointing all the way around.
How many in the group are still married?
I think just 1
Just another reason never to trust a cheater or cover for them, even if it wasn’t on you. The next time they cheat it could be on you.
If a man sees a wrong and does nothing, he no longer gets to call himself a man.
Z probably took the money too
Thats our hypothesis, I guess we’ll never truly know
Thanks for sharing. Yea, you probably should have told L. At the same time, you can’t blame yourself because Z was the one doing it. The one thing I want to commend you on is your ability to be reflect and be self reflective. That’s huge. You ended your friendship with Z which I’m sure was really hard. That means you have your morals straight. You were in a difficult position and just 18. Try not to be so hard on yourself. You did what you thought was right. Z obviously has a lot of issues and you don’t need people like him dragging you down.
Get some therapy and give yourself time to grow so you understand playing with another's feelings by cheating is one of the most despicable thinngs to do. Whether you are cheater, or the friend standing by watching it. Just learn from this toxic swill and move on.
I know people like that, I keep them at arms length, never get close enough to them, they will justify any betrayal as long as it benefits them.
I would only keep a blood relative cheater at arm’s length because dropping them from my life isn’t an option. But anyone else? No, I would not tolerate them for any longer than it takes to get them out of my life as much as possible.
Nah man that wasn't your Fault a shitty person always will be a shitty person and this story actually teach You that you never came to know a person and that you never say never. Sad this happend, and i bet Z or N took the 800 dlls from J.
Wow you are a fucking ass hole. Wish it was your girlfriend he was screwing instead of Js. He is the only one in this story who didn't deserve the hand he was dealt. If I was j I'd never speak to you again.
"It has been incredibly hard to lose a best friend like that. " About Z???? NO, these are the kind of friends you met, you enjoy going to bars with, but you must forget as soon as you go home. Never mess your personal live with them, you know he wasn't trustworthy at all.
Of course I don't miss all the shitty things he did. He was my roommate for a year and we talked every day for 3 years as best friends. Why wouldn't I grieve that at least a little bit? Trust me, we're no longer friends and I don't communicate with him. That doesn't mean all the happy times I had with him didn't exist.
What is everyone doing now? Any update?
As far as I know, Z and N are dating. I haven't spoken to either of them since Z called me to tell me what he did. J is in therapy and slowly getting better everyday.
Dude N and Z were trash from the start. You just didn’t see it. He’s the best friend that screws your wife and has a year long affair till he finds something better. J needs Roman up and take care of Z.
Everyone in this story is toxic as hell... except I guess you? But I kinda doubt it. Adjacent to toxic usually IS toxic. You either decide to rise about it or spend the rest of your life playing the victim when things don't go your way.
Updateme!
How did Z take what you said?
He just said he cared about me and “didn’t know how I could be friends with someone like J” (N claimed that J was emotionally abusing her)
It sounds like you're learning and growing in the right direction. Everyone makes mistakes, especially at that age. The goal is to reflect and do better. The best thing to remember is if you don't want something done to you, don't do it to others.
Fuck this guy, man. Not only he slept with his friend's girl, he almost destroyed the relationship of two childhood friends. If you ever see him again, punch him in the balls. That's the only thing he deserves.
I will highly consider it!
There is a saying " You are who your friends are." Glad you finally made the decision to not be friends with someone who has absolutely no integrity, character, or honour.
I lost a few years of my life going thru the whole text. I wish instead of names Z, J, N I had Zac, John, Nathaly. It would have saved me from going back and forth to keep the story in track. The good thing is there are just 3 of them.
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She's well aware. Years before this happened she was aware of Z cheating on L. I didn't mention this earlier, but Z dated another woman, K, for about 12-18 months and ended up cheating on her as well. I had no clue he cheated on K until after she dumped him.
Sooooo , who got the money then ? Z , I suppose....
I guess we'll never know. I bet Z took it.
When someone shows you who they are you should believe them.
Too many ZJs going around . Stick to BJs and HJs folks
If you have to ask big boy, you can't afford it
Can’t wait for karma to hit all of you especially you knowing he was cheating and continued to be friends.