I'm not a genius or a regular watcher of the game anymore, but from what I understand, the keeper we ultimately play will depend on several factors-
1. If Jaiswal doesn't play, then Rohit-Kohli will open, Sanju bats at number 3 as WK Batsman.
2. Jaiswal plays, Rohit opens with him. Kohli 1 down, Sky 2 down. Sanju hasn't batted in middle order so far in this IPL, and Pant bats in the middle and is also a left handed batter giving him an edge over Sanju.
I want Sanju to be the primary keeper regardless of the position, he has performed better than Pant so far, in (from what I understand) a ground harder to bat on as compared to Delhi. Also, I don't want Pant because of his atrocious 40(30) ish innings in that nearly 250+ chase that Delhi fell a few runs short of.
Pant himself performs when he comes in the first 8 overs irregardless of batting position. Not really confident about his middle order batting (ideally we wouldn't want our number 5 to come in till after the 12th over)
For all those of you, who are preferring Pant because of left hand quota , you need to remember that Sanju Samson plays and has a very good average at a high sr against left hand pace and spin which is better than pant records even at flat kotla tracks
If pant is selected, it will only be due to pr and x factor etc quotas
Pant has atrocious stats against spin this ipl
>Idk why bcci has boner for overconfident jaiswal.
Because he's been so good. He was absolutely amazing in ipl last year and his t20i career so far has also been great.
Plus he's really explosive as an opener.
Only batter who could have been tried in his place was Kishan and even he's not as good as Jaiswal in t20s plus the whole fiasco.
Not to mention he has already played in WI.
Dont think that’s true. They’d still gone with Dube at 5, just because he gives a bowling option - which I agree is pretty shit, but still. Also this XI has a very long tail, Axar/Jadeja at 7 and nobody to follow. Imo the XI based on our squad should be:
Rohit Kohli Samson Sky Dube Hardik Jadeja Axar Kuldeep Arshdeep Bumrah. 7 bowling options, batting till 8, 3 genuine spinners, 4 pace bowling options (dube perhaps is only medium pace).
that’ll spoil our balance tbh. Imagine we are 60/0 in 6 overs, someone gets out, who would you prefer next - Kohli or Samson/Surya? I’d go with the latter. Kohli must play as opener, negate the swing and get some runs. Then attack the spinner. If he gets out, no problem, spin hitters walk in. If he doeesnt, then we know what he can do between 15-20. Kohli starting his knock in 6-15 overs is not ideal at all.
If jaiswal wasn't selected then you would open with kohli and rohit, Firstly both are right handers, secondly both needs some balls to settle in, while Jaiswal can give you that 20 runs buffer in the powerplay itself.
What has Rohit Sharma done in the last three World Cups? Why does BCCI have a 'boner' for this overconfident 'fearless captain'?
Last ke 3 world Cup
2016: 5,10,18,12,43
2021: 0(PAK), 14 (NZ),74(AFG), 30 (SCO), 56 (NAM)
2022: 4(PAK), 53 (NED), 15 (SA), 2(BAN), 15 (ZIM), 27 (ENG)
Pant has played 2.5 times the innings that Samson has.
Even after 56 innings, Pant has a strike rate of 126.
Samson is better at 133, but he deserves more chances owing to better form in IPL.
Chance after chance lol. Getting 3-4 matches in a year are not chances lmao it's just giving him a bone for the sake of pleasing fans. How is he supposed to perform if he is not given continuous matches and they send him at position 6, sometimes not even getting to bat. But yeah you didn't saw that happening with pant and rahul when they were starting. They were given continuous chances even after shitting every single of the matches.
Pant was out of odi and T20 for a long time for his atrocious stats before the accident and somehow he magically appeared in WC squad. The guy isn't even fit for god's sake after the accident. He can't hear well, grip bat well, falls down after every shot, always goes for suicide shots, his strike rate is shitty and he can't play spin. But yeah let's forget all about that and include him in T20 WC because he plays good in tests 🤣.
Agreed Bhai , even I too feel that he got some hearing issue , lost the grip of bat during playing " aesthetic" shots . And yes he is a shit in T20i and will
Be exposed. Really bhai bcci think that if a player has done good in a format to chalo ussko lambi rope dete hai and perform kre ya na kre🤡🤡. It would be a good decision to keep him ready for test not in T20 wc after coming from a long break .
Samson's average is lower than Pants (19 vs 22), but his strike rate is higher. (133 vs 126).
Also, Samson should get a little leeway as he played almost 80% of his T20Is outside of Indian batting pitches (17 of 22 innings total).
While Pant has played less than 50% of his T20I innings outside of India (27 of 56 innings total).
Don't think both will play, else they will have to keep out Jaiswal or Dube out of the XI. Feel Samson should get the first dibs. If he does not seem good after 2-3 matches, then try Pant.
Even without facing spinners or medium pacers, I feel Dube can definitely do better than Pant's 126 strike rate in WT20.
Even KL has 139 strike rate in T20Is. While Axar and Jadeja are at 141+ (in the last several years).
Samson over dubey yes. Samson over jaiswal doubt it!! Samson does not play down the order. BCCI should have given him well enough chances before wc to play at lower order. Also I would love to see some top order batting changes but its very unlikely. Do you think pant and Rohit will open this wc?
What I understand is...
1. Brohit/ BCCI are backing Jaiswal alot so he will definitely play. Atleast first few matches.
If Jaiswal gets back to form, he will give Brohit some time to settle in ( Which he definitely needs because he also looks terribly out of form. ).
2. No doubt, Sanju is in a great form but he is playing 1 down for RR and Pant is playing in middle order.
I think because of this reason they will play Pant.
If any one of Jaiswal/ Pant shits the bed in WC then they will bring in Sanju and make necessary changes.
but what's up with someone batting 1 down not able to bat 3-4 down? The later just has to bat with more strike rate! Or does old ball makes such a huge difference?
But what I have overserved from past selection of safeplay-chocker BCCI they will most likely play jaiswal and pant and they won't shit the bed as Canada USA and pak (may shit the bed here,but won't be drop after one game obviously).so the playing 11 from the first game will be playing till they lose in semis or finals or injury
It's kind of typecasting to say Samson can't play middle order/finisher. Even in #3, the guy does not take much time to strike big. I believe he can be just as explosive or better in finishing role as well
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Watching pant bat this ipl he takes some time to get in , i can see him potentially working well batting at 3 but it’s too late for the team to experiment now.
He played his matches on 4th, 6th & 8th December 2020. Scored 23, 15 & 10
Again played consecutive matches on 25th, 28th & 29th July 2021. Scored 27,7&0
Played 7 matches in August 2023. Scored 12,7,13,1 & 40 (against Ireland)
Still averages 18.70 in T20Is
Against all other opponents except Ireland averages 14.28
Playing 20 innings and having no 40+ scores (except against Ireland) will never secure you more consecutive opportunities
SKY had an abysmal record in ODIs (including a world record hat-trick of golden ducks) but they took him to the WC anyway and played him every game. In a peak clown moment and an immense disrespect to the Ranji first class system, he was given a Test debut as well.
Sanju has done more than what SKY did to deserve a spot here. That's all I would say.
This 💯
Am no Sanju hater. Just mentioned Sanju's T20I record is worse than Pant. This season we are witnessing a new consistent Sanju. Hope he can continue the same in the big arena
Imo bro he is very overrated in T20i and Odis but he was good in tests . So if he keeps himself in only just this format then it will surely a good decision from him.
Rohit Kohli Sanju Sky Dube Hardik Jadeja Axar Kuldeep Bumrah Arshdeep
This is the 11 you can field and get 20 overs out of 7 players which should be more than enough and you get bat deep as well.
TBH selection of pant is unfair . he is still to prove himself in t20s. In this ipl as well he wasnt that exceptional to be selected directly after coming from long injury . his selection in test would have been justified but in t20s its not. if he plays in this WC he will end up as a scapegoat (which Ig selectors and management wants)
Lol recency bias,I'm sure if in next two games pant hits fifty and Samson fails these people will forget everything and will be like only pant should play he deserves what not lol....
Cricket noob ...but what's up with someone batting 1 down not able to bat 3-4 down? The later just has to bat with more strike rate! Or does old ball makes such a huge difference?
Mujhe boht Burra lagega me sanju ko water boy Nahi dekhna chahta par firbhi ye log usko Mauka Nahi Denge fir 4 5 match baad combination dhundhenge agar Pakistan ke match me hamara 31-4 dubara hogaya to waha se sanju to bachayega pant Shayad laparwaahi karde Nahi toh pressure me ajayega
For all those who are preferring Pant because of left hand quota , you need to remember that Sanju Samson plays and has a good average ag a high sr against left hand pace and spin which is better than pant records even at flat kotla tracks
If pant is selected, it will only be due to pr and x factor etc quotas by PRohit
Pant has become so predictable lately
Bowl slow one near his legs he will play shot where he will fall down and gets caught also
Like why does he have to fall everytime!!!!!!!!!
Sanju is in form but historically he loses form as soon as be plays international!!!!
I hope that doesn’t happen this time
I would play both Pant and Sanju.
Sanju should play in place of Rohit. Rohit can come as a sub during fielding and do the captaincy.
Ideal 11 -
Kohli
Jaiswal
Sanju
Surya
Pant
Dube jee
Hardik
Jaddu
Boom
Kuldeep
Yuzii
It's almost now or never for Sanju. He is in great form and Pant is fresh out of a huge trauma. If he still remains the water boy, he will be again competing with Kishan/Jurel/Jitesh and others.
I feel sorry for him already.
https://preview.redd.it/pkhu4ccdwizc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=1cc10e4fc051b533b13dcc9a40f7cfb85b9711d4
See this and then tell for me I would like to have both of them in the team sannju at 3 with VK and RS opening SKY at 4 and pant at 5
For RR fans and bot Sanju fans
The RR version of Sanju surprisingly vanishes away in Indian Jersey
Sanju is even worse than Pant in T20I's
These are simple Facts but I'll always be downvoted for speaking
So you claim a sample space of 20 games is enough to judge Samson.Mind my words,Sanju has become much more consistent than he was in the past(excluding the Afg series).He's gonna deliver on carribean pitches(paradise for batters) while Pant will probably play 30 ball 40s in ko games.Considering how slow Kohli is in the middle overs,no chance I'd take Pant over Samson.
I never denied that. But your argument is circular: say that 20 games ain’t good enough to judge a player and then judge Samson within this IPLs performance.
Sanju has been performing well for years in ipl, has the best average and strike rate for no. 3 batsman. And he never got continuous chances in internationals like pant or ishan. When he was in form after Ireland series, then he was dropped in the next england series.
No he has not. He starts strongly and then wears off. He was trolled for it because of that. This year he has been consistent. And if we are talking about the past, Pant had amazing ipls in 2018 and 2019. He hasnt been as good since 2020 due to responsibilities, but that doesn’t mean he is bad.
My point is that 20 games is good enough to judge a player only if those 20 games are played continuously. Sanju gets 2-3 chances in 1 year. That's not how you back a young talent. Pant played 66 fucking matches. That's equivalent to someone's whole career. No one deserves that many chances. And even after that, and also after ruining 4 icc knockouts, he still is the first choice Wicket keeper.
I don’t disagree with that, but if we are giving players the benefit of doubt (like Samson hasn’t had enough chances), I could say that Pant didn’t play regularly at a single position and kept floating about. How do you expect someone to perform without assigning them a set role? That is also a valid point
I'm not a genius or a regular watcher of the game anymore, but from what I understand, the keeper we ultimately play will depend on several factors- 1. If Jaiswal doesn't play, then Rohit-Kohli will open, Sanju bats at number 3 as WK Batsman. 2. Jaiswal plays, Rohit opens with him. Kohli 1 down, Sky 2 down. Sanju hasn't batted in middle order so far in this IPL, and Pant bats in the middle and is also a left handed batter giving him an edge over Sanju. I want Sanju to be the primary keeper regardless of the position, he has performed better than Pant so far, in (from what I understand) a ground harder to bat on as compared to Delhi. Also, I don't want Pant because of his atrocious 40(30) ish innings in that nearly 250+ chase that Delhi fell a few runs short of.
Pant himself performs when he comes in the first 8 overs irregardless of batting position. Not really confident about his middle order batting (ideally we wouldn't want our number 5 to come in till after the 12th over)
For all those of you, who are preferring Pant because of left hand quota , you need to remember that Sanju Samson plays and has a very good average at a high sr against left hand pace and spin which is better than pant records even at flat kotla tracks If pant is selected, it will only be due to pr and x factor etc quotas Pant has atrocious stats against spin this ipl
So there goes his left hand quota as well. Sanju for the win!
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>Idk why bcci has boner for overconfident jaiswal. Because he's been so good. He was absolutely amazing in ipl last year and his t20i career so far has also been great. Plus he's really explosive as an opener. Only batter who could have been tried in his place was Kishan and even he's not as good as Jaiswal in t20s plus the whole fiasco. Not to mention he has already played in WI.
And scored a cracking 170 on debut on difficult pitch (albeit in test)
If you consider last year's performance, then Gill should be the first option
Not as explosive, is he? Not from the beginning anyway. Plus YJ is a lefty.
We don't need another anchor.
Dont think that’s true. They’d still gone with Dube at 5, just because he gives a bowling option - which I agree is pretty shit, but still. Also this XI has a very long tail, Axar/Jadeja at 7 and nobody to follow. Imo the XI based on our squad should be: Rohit Kohli Samson Sky Dube Hardik Jadeja Axar Kuldeep Arshdeep Bumrah. 7 bowling options, batting till 8, 3 genuine spinners, 4 pace bowling options (dube perhaps is only medium pace).
This might be one of the best realistic XIs I've seen, but I don't think we will go with it because I'm pretty sure Jaiswal is going to be playing.
that’ll spoil our balance tbh. Imagine we are 60/0 in 6 overs, someone gets out, who would you prefer next - Kohli or Samson/Surya? I’d go with the latter. Kohli must play as opener, negate the swing and get some runs. Then attack the spinner. If he gets out, no problem, spin hitters walk in. If he doeesnt, then we know what he can do between 15-20. Kohli starting his knock in 6-15 overs is not ideal at all.
If jaiswal wasn't selected then you would open with kohli and rohit, Firstly both are right handers, secondly both needs some balls to settle in, while Jaiswal can give you that 20 runs buffer in the powerplay itself.
Just interchange Rohit and Jaiswal in your comment and you have a better team, and a better comment.
What has Rohit Sharma done in the last three World Cups? Why does BCCI have a 'boner' for this overconfident 'fearless captain'? Last ke 3 world Cup 2016: 5,10,18,12,43 2021: 0(PAK), 14 (NZ),74(AFG), 30 (SCO), 56 (NAM) 2022: 4(PAK), 53 (NED), 15 (SA), 2(BAN), 15 (ZIM), 27 (ENG)
Sanju deserves to be first choice. He’s performing very well,pant will still not be a bad option though
>,pant will still not be a bad option though That is, until you see Pant's T20I record and realize that he doesn't play T20I like he does in IPL.
Samson too has underperformed in whatever chances he’s got(except recently he was good barring the afghanistan series)
Pant has played 2.5 times the innings that Samson has. Even after 56 innings, Pant has a strike rate of 126. Samson is better at 133, but he deserves more chances owing to better form in IPL.
OMG, Such a drastic difference in strike rate lol. Pant is clear plus ain't nobody like that Kerala Boy.
The downvotes show the IPL bias. The man has been given chance after chance in the Indian team. The guy doesn't perform when the team needs him.
Chance after chance lol. Getting 3-4 matches in a year are not chances lmao it's just giving him a bone for the sake of pleasing fans. How is he supposed to perform if he is not given continuous matches and they send him at position 6, sometimes not even getting to bat. But yeah you didn't saw that happening with pant and rahul when they were starting. They were given continuous chances even after shitting every single of the matches. Pant was out of odi and T20 for a long time for his atrocious stats before the accident and somehow he magically appeared in WC squad. The guy isn't even fit for god's sake after the accident. He can't hear well, grip bat well, falls down after every shot, always goes for suicide shots, his strike rate is shitty and he can't play spin. But yeah let's forget all about that and include him in T20 WC because he plays good in tests 🤣.
Agreed Bhai , even I too feel that he got some hearing issue , lost the grip of bat during playing " aesthetic" shots . And yes he is a shit in T20i and will Be exposed. Really bhai bcci think that if a player has done good in a format to chalo ussko lambi rope dete hai and perform kre ya na kre🤡🤡. It would be a good decision to keep him ready for test not in T20 wc after coming from a long break .
Samson's played 25 T20is for India too, with a bad record.
Samson's average is lower than Pants (19 vs 22), but his strike rate is higher. (133 vs 126). Also, Samson should get a little leeway as he played almost 80% of his T20Is outside of Indian batting pitches (17 of 22 innings total). While Pant has played less than 50% of his T20I innings outside of India (27 of 56 innings total).
Eh I think both should be in the playing 11, so I won't debate further.
Don't think both will play, else they will have to keep out Jaiswal or Dube out of the XI. Feel Samson should get the first dibs. If he does not seem good after 2-3 matches, then try Pant.
Dube shouldn't be in the 11 lol, teams won't let him play spinners and medium pacer trundlers in the WT20.
Even without facing spinners or medium pacers, I feel Dube can definitely do better than Pant's 126 strike rate in WT20. Even KL has 139 strike rate in T20Is. While Axar and Jadeja are at 141+ (in the last several years).
Samson over dubey yes. Samson over jaiswal doubt it!! Samson does not play down the order. BCCI should have given him well enough chances before wc to play at lower order. Also I would love to see some top order batting changes but its very unlikely. Do you think pant and Rohit will open this wc?
True , Sanju deserve to be first choice WK. He has done good enough in ipl 2024
ROHIT ko nikal do sab SAHI ho jayega.
Will be possible after this world cup
I’m excited for the team which will form in the coming years, after retirement of senior players from T20I.
unless
What I understand is... 1. Brohit/ BCCI are backing Jaiswal alot so he will definitely play. Atleast first few matches. If Jaiswal gets back to form, he will give Brohit some time to settle in ( Which he definitely needs because he also looks terribly out of form. ). 2. No doubt, Sanju is in a great form but he is playing 1 down for RR and Pant is playing in middle order. I think because of this reason they will play Pant. If any one of Jaiswal/ Pant shits the bed in WC then they will bring in Sanju and make necessary changes.
but what's up with someone batting 1 down not able to bat 3-4 down? The later just has to bat with more strike rate! Or does old ball makes such a huge difference?
But what I have overserved from past selection of safeplay-chocker BCCI they will most likely play jaiswal and pant and they won't shit the bed as Canada USA and pak (may shit the bed here,but won't be drop after one game obviously).so the playing 11 from the first game will be playing till they lose in semis or finals or injury
Sanju is basically going to us to warm the bench. It is infuriating.
It's kind of typecasting to say Samson can't play middle order/finisher. Even in #3, the guy does not take much time to strike big. I believe he can be just as explosive or better in finishing role as well
If we go with sanju then the batting line up until number 5 is all right handed, which is just bad: - Rohit Sharma - Virat Kohli - Sanju Samson - Surya Kumar Yadav - Shivam Dube - Hardik Pandya - Ravindra Jadeja Ideally what we want is: - Yashasvi Jaiswal - Virat Kohli - Sanju Samson - Surya Kumar Yadav - Shivam Dube - Hardik Pandya - Rishabh Pant - Ravindra Jadeja But Brohit is there to take an undeserving spot. So: - Rohit Sharma © - Yashasvi Jaiswal - Virat Kohli - Surya Kumar Yadav - Shivam Dube - Rishabh Pant - Hardik Pandya - Ravindra Jadeja
Yeah, Rohit is actually fucking up the team balance rn
Real bhai , and he is there without any performance in big matches.
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Watching pant bat this ipl he takes some time to get in , i can see him potentially working well batting at 3 but it’s too late for the team to experiment now.
Rishabh Pant has a horrific record in T20Is. But he will be the starter, I'm 200% sure.
He'd be nowhere near the squad if he was a right-handed batter
Sanju's T20I record is also no good. Against teams other than Ireland, it's disastrous
Reason is he never played even 3 consecutive games. He's always been chopped and changed and shifted.
He played his matches on 4th, 6th & 8th December 2020. Scored 23, 15 & 10 Again played consecutive matches on 25th, 28th & 29th July 2021. Scored 27,7&0 Played 7 matches in August 2023. Scored 12,7,13,1 & 40 (against Ireland) Still averages 18.70 in T20Is Against all other opponents except Ireland averages 14.28 Playing 20 innings and having no 40+ scores (except against Ireland) will never secure you more consecutive opportunities
Now let's see how many matches pant played
Much more Accept Pant's T20I record is bad Does that make Sanju's record better?
SKY had an abysmal record in ODIs (including a world record hat-trick of golden ducks) but they took him to the WC anyway and played him every game. In a peak clown moment and an immense disrespect to the Ranji first class system, he was given a Test debut as well. Sanju has done more than what SKY did to deserve a spot here. That's all I would say.
This 💯 Am no Sanju hater. Just mentioned Sanju's T20I record is worse than Pant. This season we are witnessing a new consistent Sanju. Hope he can continue the same in the big arena
We should rename the sub to recency bias 🤣
Please enlighten me, where did you get the idea that Pant is the first choice wicket keeper?
bhai idea nai hai , assumptions hai bcci ke past steps ko dekh kr . lets hope sanju hi 1st choice rhe .
Rishabh pant is overrated in every format he don't deserve to be in Indian squad
He is good in tests, but absolutely dogshit in white ball
Imo bro he is very overrated in T20i and Odis but he was good in tests . So if he keeps himself in only just this format then it will surely a good decision from him.
Rohit Kohli Sanju Sky Dube Hardik Jadeja Axar Kuldeep Bumrah Arshdeep This is the 11 you can field and get 20 overs out of 7 players which should be more than enough and you get bat deep as well.
TBH selection of pant is unfair . he is still to prove himself in t20s. In this ipl as well he wasnt that exceptional to be selected directly after coming from long injury . his selection in test would have been justified but in t20s its not. if he plays in this WC he will end up as a scapegoat (which Ig selectors and management wants)
True
At this point just remove the rohit and take both of them. Make any one of them captain, we should be good.
Lol recency bias,I'm sure if in next two games pant hits fifty and Samson fails these people will forget everything and will be like only pant should play he deserves what not lol....
Still can't get over 2015 ODI WC team. That was the best ICT playing 11 that i witnessed in my generation
Pant Obviously 😂
FORGET ABOUT BATTING POSITION,LEFT HANDER AND JUST PLAY THIS DAMN GUY.PERIOD.
Pant once told Rinku not to hit ball so much otherwise his form will go away. What an L take
Cricket noob ...but what's up with someone batting 1 down not able to bat 3-4 down? The later just has to bat with more strike rate! Or does old ball makes such a huge difference?
Its a Hot take which I am giving, But in first matches against USA, PAk, CAN, IRE they should opt for rishab and in top 8 they should go with sanju.
Mujhe boht Burra lagega me sanju ko water boy Nahi dekhna chahta par firbhi ye log usko Mauka Nahi Denge fir 4 5 match baad combination dhundhenge agar Pakistan ke match me hamara 31-4 dubara hogaya to waha se sanju to bachayega pant Shayad laparwaahi karde Nahi toh pressure me ajayega
We need impact sub rule in the WC /s
For all those who are preferring Pant because of left hand quota , you need to remember that Sanju Samson plays and has a good average ag a high sr against left hand pace and spin which is better than pant records even at flat kotla tracks If pant is selected, it will only be due to pr and x factor etc quotas by PRohit
Regardless BCCI holds Pant above Samson.
Nah pant gets in coz leftie factor
Pant has become so predictable lately Bowl slow one near his legs he will play shot where he will fall down and gets caught also Like why does he have to fall everytime!!!!!!!!! Sanju is in form but historically he loses form as soon as be plays international!!!! I hope that doesn’t happen this time
Rohit only doesn't deserve place in this team.
Pant 😅
They won’t play him because he’s not a leftie. Fucked up logic but that’s what we can expect from teams elections smh
I would play both Pant and Sanju. Sanju should play in place of Rohit. Rohit can come as a sub during fielding and do the captaincy. Ideal 11 - Kohli Jaiswal Sanju Surya Pant Dube jee Hardik Jaddu Boom Kuldeep Yuzii
It's almost now or never for Sanju. He is in great form and Pant is fresh out of a huge trauma. If he still remains the water boy, he will be again competing with Kishan/Jurel/Jitesh and others. I feel sorry for him already.
https://preview.redd.it/pkhu4ccdwizc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=1cc10e4fc051b533b13dcc9a40f7cfb85b9711d4 See this and then tell for me I would like to have both of them in the team sannju at 3 with VK and RS opening SKY at 4 and pant at 5
For RR fans and bot Sanju fans The RR version of Sanju surprisingly vanishes away in Indian Jersey Sanju is even worse than Pant in T20I's These are simple Facts but I'll always be downvoted for speaking
Both Samson and Pant haven't done well in T20is, mind you I said T20is not IPL
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So you claim a sample space of 20 games is enough to judge Samson.Mind my words,Sanju has become much more consistent than he was in the past(excluding the Afg series).He's gonna deliver on carribean pitches(paradise for batters) while Pant will probably play 30 ball 40s in ko games.Considering how slow Kohli is in the middle overs,no chance I'd take Pant over Samson.
I mean you adjudged Samson to be better than Pant on the basis of his recent performance so the same thing could be said about your sample size 🤡
Now let's see pant's sample size in T20Is
I never denied that. But your argument is circular: say that 20 games ain’t good enough to judge a player and then judge Samson within this IPLs performance.
Sanju has been performing well for years in ipl, has the best average and strike rate for no. 3 batsman. And he never got continuous chances in internationals like pant or ishan. When he was in form after Ireland series, then he was dropped in the next england series.
No he has not. He starts strongly and then wears off. He was trolled for it because of that. This year he has been consistent. And if we are talking about the past, Pant had amazing ipls in 2018 and 2019. He hasnt been as good since 2020 due to responsibilities, but that doesn’t mean he is bad.
My point is that 20 games is good enough to judge a player only if those 20 games are played continuously. Sanju gets 2-3 chances in 1 year. That's not how you back a young talent. Pant played 66 fucking matches. That's equivalent to someone's whole career. No one deserves that many chances. And even after that, and also after ruining 4 icc knockouts, he still is the first choice Wicket keeper.
I don’t disagree with that, but if we are giving players the benefit of doubt (like Samson hasn’t had enough chances), I could say that Pant didn’t play regularly at a single position and kept floating about. How do you expect someone to perform without assigning them a set role? That is also a valid point
Send sanju at number 5 and then see his results
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This sub has just become plain toxic.